[News] Ravens' 2016 Roster Cutdown Rumor Mill

[JamesA119]

These unfair guys we have that cut players will never give Daniel Brown a fair shot. They keep Waller over Daniel Brown because of FAVORITISM. Waller has proven not to stay healthy. While D. Brown has stayed ready when his name is called and makes the catch. IF i was in charge Daniel Brown would have a spot on this team until he shows that he does not deserve it. Bet they keep Allen over Houston as well.

Your posts make my head spin. There is no favoritism. This is the NFL not your local pop warner, or high school football. Every player is judged equally with consideration of the position they play. Daniel Brown is playing a position where there's abundant talent. There are abundant talents at the TE and WR positions. If it had been the QB position, his talent may be enough to ensure a back up position. If you had to cry about any cuts, cry for Jeremy Butler!

[ellicottraven]

These unfair guys we have that cut players will never give Daniel Brown a fair shot. They keep Waller over Daniel Brown because of FAVORITISM. Waller has proven not to stay healthy. While D. Brown has stayed ready when his name is called and makes the catch. IF i was in charge Daniel Brown would have a spot on this team until he shows that he does not deserve it. Bet they keep Allen over Houston as well.

Favoritism? I don't think so. This roster is of far more importance to the Ravens that favoritism can have any role in it. If you stop and think about it, you'll agree that all the decisions that have been made have been debated, argued and then decided on. I don't believe Harbs would let favoritism hamper his chances at winning games. This year is going to be about fielding the best 53 man roster period.

[hen826957]

Wold have cut steve smith before Butler..............SMH!

What?

[Bohica5]

  45 minutes ago, law215 said:

What are they doing cutting Brooks, Butler , and Campanero? Oh wait.. They will sign Hester. Whew??

I really want Cordarrelle Patterson as our returner if they want a returner. He's only 25 and will be better with us than the Vikings. Hester is getting up at age and probably not quick as he once was. I remember Cordarrelle had 2 two kick off returns against us on the snow in Baltimore but still manage to win at the end. I believe he could be a playmaker for us and returner because we have Joe. I would even trade Josh Johnson for Cordarrelle Patterson if they want a trade. Release would be even better. ?

Totally agree with you......Patterson is a monster....Butler was our 3rd best receiver.....unreal they let him go!

[H8ME]

Campanaro hurt again? Definitely time to end that relationship. Hoping Butler and D. Brown clear waivers and added to the PS. Can aging healing achilles Steve Smith last 16 games? Trestman likes big receivers so not surprised they kept Matthews. I'm concerned about the OLine and DB. Experienced depth needed in those positions.

[hen826957]

  37 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

  50 minutes ago, law215 said:

What are they doing cutting Brooks, Butler , and Campanero? Oh wait.. They will sign Hester. Whew??

I really want Cordarrelle Patterson as our returner if they want a returner. He's only 25 and will be better with us than the Vikings. Hester is getting up at age and probably not quick as he once was. I remember Cordarrelle had 2 two kick off returns against us on the snow in Baltimore but still manage to win at the end. I believe he could be a playmaker for us and returner because we have Joe. I would even trade Josh Johnson for Cordarrelle Patterson if they want a trade. Release would be even better. ?

Totally agree with you......Patterson is a monster....Butler was our 3rd best receiver.....unreal they let him go!

I agree. It's sad they release Butler cause he did everything right but 3rd best receiver? You would even cut SSS.

[bioLarzen]

Wold have cut steve smith before Butler..............SMH!

Good thing you're not the GM... sorry, but thats the truth.

[bioLarzen]

Brooks came as a surprise but not totally shocking. He hasn't played well in some areas this preseason and there must have been players that make the team as a whole better. We can't look at each cut in isolation, but look at how their release and therefore another person's roster spot affects us as a team from both position and special team scenarios.

Campanaro's release wasn't surprising to me, but Jeremy Butler's release was saddening to see.

Sad, but you don't really have a future in the NFL as a safety if you can't cover well - and Brooks couldn't really...

[bioLarzen]

  49 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

  55 minutes ago, law215 said:

What are they doing cutting Brooks, Butler , and Campanero? Oh wait.. They will sign Hester. Whew??

You think Ozzie cut three players to sign one?

No . I think he is risking losing them to other teams without guarantee of a better player.

Ah, so it's "Ozzie can't manage a roster" time again.

As always.

[law215]

Wold have cut steve smith before Butler..............SMH!

Common Man

[ellicottraven]

1 minute ago, bioLarzen said:

Sad, but you don't really have a future in the NFL as a safety if you can't cover well - and Brooks couldn't really...

Yep

[bioLarzen]

  27 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... the Packers cut Josh Sitton - one of the better LG's in the league... LG is the position in the O-line where we could definitely do with some upgrade...

That's shocking. Don't mind getting some depth there and than we could cut Hurst.

Lewis seems definitely promising and Urschel is no joke either - but Sitton is better than both at this point. He'd be a definite upgrade now. He woudn't come cheap for sure - but I think it would be worth it...

... but then again, I'm not Ozzie :)

[ellicottraven]

11 minutes ago, H8ME said:

Campanaro hurt again? Definitely time to end that relationship. Hoping Butler and D. Brown clear waivers and added to the PS. Can aging healing achilles Steve Smith last 16 games? Trestman likes big receivers so not surprised they kept Matthews. I'm concerned about the OLine and DB. Experienced depth needed in those positions.

Not sure about Butler but Brown will clear waivers and will be on the PS, only to be replaced and then brought back in...

[hen826957]

6 minutes ago, law215 said:

19 minutes ago, Bohica5 said:

Wold have cut steve smith before Butler..............SMH!

Common Man

LOL. I was scratching my head. He would cut SSS for Butler. I mean l get the idea because this is SSS last year and everything but l would definitely not cut him. Horrible thinking.

Edited September 3, 2016 by hen826957

[runcontrol]

Hmmm... the Packers cut Josh Sitton - one of the better LG's in the league... LG is the position in the O-line where we could definitely do with some upgrade...

It sounds like he was cut to save some money and I don't think the Ravens are going to invest that much in a backup player.

[SorryNotSorry]

Who's a better LG on our current roster? Back-up? Try starter. lol

[SorryNotSorry]

And I love A. Lewis, but he looks more like a RT to me. Train him up there behind Wagner in case of injury.

[hen826957]

  36 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

  40 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... the Packers cut Josh Sitton - one of the better LG's in the league... LG is the position in the O-line where we could definitely do with some upgrade...

That's shocking. Don't mind getting some depth there and than we could cut Hurst.

Lewis seems definitely promising and Urschel is no joke either - but Sitton is better than both at this point. He'd be a definite upgrade now. He woudn't come cheap for sure - but I think it would be worth it...

... but then again, I'm not Ozzie :)

Yep. ? But l was thinking we should wait for decent tackle to get cut instead of guard. We really don't have a good quality backup for Stanley. We do got a good backup at guard with Urschel.

[J.O.14]

  43 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... the Packers cut Josh Sitton - one of the better LG's in the league... LG is the position in the O-line where we could definitely do with some upgrade...

It sounds like he was cut to save some money and I don't think the Ravens are going to invest that much in a backup player.

I really doubt he would be a backup. He actually had a very good year last year and was one of the best pass protecting guards in the league. That would be a good signing IMO. We have the space to do it.

[hen826957]

  6 minutes ago, runcontrol said:

  44 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... the Packers cut Josh Sitton - one of the better LG's in the league... LG is the position in the O-line where we could definitely do with some upgrade...

It sounds like he was cut to save some money and I don't think the Ravens are going to invest that much in a backup player.

I really doubt he would be a backup. He actually had a very good year last year and was one of the best pass protecting guards in the league. That would be a good signing IMO. We have the space to do it.

I wouldn't mind. It's up to Ozzie.

[RavensBaltimore]

I thought there was a realistic chance that both Camp and Butler would make it. With Camp getting waived, I would've thought that pretty much guaranteed Butler's spot. I'm very surprised that neither made it. I thought Brooks would make it as well, but I guess Levine's versatility makes Brooks expendable. We must be planning on signing Hester or another FA with all these surprising cuts.

[Bohica5]

Nothing personal against steve smith but Butler has a totally bigger upside for this year and .....for the future of our team....The gm failed the team here.....at least camp is finally out.....liked him but not durable enough for this game.....

[stixfix69]

Pretty much the last draft before the season begins, will be interesting who signs who from the last cuts......I still don't feel comfortable with our ILBer position.....

[RavensBaltimore]

  32 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

  35 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... the Packers cut Josh Sitton - one of the better LG's in the league... LG is the position in the O-line where we could definitely do with some upgrade...

That's shocking. Don't mind getting some depth there and than we could cut Hurst.

Lewis seems definitely promising and Urschel is no joke either - but Sitton is better than both at this point. He'd be a definite upgrade now. He woudn't come cheap for sure - but I think it would be worth it...

... but then again, I'm not Ozzie :)

I would think that signing an expensive LG would violate Ozzie's 80/20 rule. Lewis or Urschel can probably give you 80% of the performance for 20% of the price. We don't have a pro bowl caliber LG(unless Lewis can surprise us) but we have a capable starter and good depth, so I don't see a reason to spend a lot of money there.

[bioLarzen]

  20 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

  49 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

  53 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Hmmm... the Packers cut Josh Sitton - one of the better LG's in the league... LG is the position in the O-line where we could definitely do with some upgrade...

That's shocking. Don't mind getting some depth there and than we could cut Hurst.

Lewis seems definitely promising and Urschel is no joke either - but Sitton is better than both at this point. He'd be a definite upgrade now. He woudn't come cheap for sure - but I think it would be worth it...

... but then again, I'm not Ozzie :)

I would think that signing an expensive LG would violate Ozzie's 80/20 rule. Lewis or Urschel can probably give you 80% of the performance for 20% of the price. We don't have a pro bowl caliber LG(unless Lewis can surprise us) but we have a capable starter and good depth, so I don't see a reason to spend a lot of money there.

Well, this whole thing with Sitton was nothing more than my speculation anyways...

[bioLarzen]

Pretty much the last draft before the season begins, will be interesting who signs who from the last cuts......I still don't feel comfortable with our ILBer position.....

Nate Irving has become available...

[Ironman2131]

So you are meaning to tell me Elam and Lewis outplayed Brooks? Really? Do not get me started on cutting Ochi. We have 2 old OLBs who are clearly on the back 9 of their career and you cut what looks to be an absolute diamond in the rough UFA that can rush the passer. Im sorry but I have begun to question Ozzie more than I can ever remember in the past few years. Im heated

[balfan23]

2 minutes ago, RavensBaltimore said:

I would think that signing an expensive LG would violate Ozzie's 80/20 rule. Lewis or Urschel can probably give you 80% of the performance for 20% of the price. We don't have a pro bowl caliber LG(unless Lewis can surprise us) but we have a capable starter and good depth, so I don't see a reason to spend a lot of money there.

Yeah - I think it is going to depend on how expensive he becomes. He's an FA so he'll be wooed by a number of teams, so this won't likely happen quickly. He's going to want to hear what bids are out there for him. 

Still, we've been starting Lewis because Urschel has been hurt. I don't know how comfortable we are with starting a rookie or a guy who's had very limited time as a starter next to another rookie ... not if they can help it. 

I do agree, there are other positions where we'd probably prefer to spend the money (secondary) but is there anyone worth getting? 

[hen826957]

Nothing personal against steve smith but Butler has a totally bigger upside for this year and .....for the future of our team....The gm failed the team here.....at least camp is finally out.....liked him but not durable enough for this game.....

I understand what you're saying but l still wouldn't cut Steve Smith. We need him this year and he's hungry. Hopefully Butler can make it through waivers.

[hen826957]

So you are meaning to tell me Elam and Lewis outplayed Brooks? Really? Do not get me started on cutting Ochi. We have 2 old OLBs who are clearly on the back 9 of their career and you cut what looks to be an absolute diamond in the rough UFA that can rush the passer. Im sorry but I have begun to question Ozzie more than I can ever remember in the past few years. Im heated

Well, it has to be a reasonable explanation right? We'll find out what Ozzie is having on his sleeve.