[News] Ravens' 2016 Roster Cutdown Rumor Mill

[dirtybird66]

i think the campanaro fumble was a fluke.keep that spot for someone else!

[ellicottraven]

2 hours ago, FastEddie said:

Agreed. Not interested at all.

Would rather give the time to Camp despite the one time in his career that he fumbled. Jacoby was on the team for 3 years and we watched him fumble a game changing kick off against the Texans...

Frankly I would rather have Webb or SSS receive punts and give the kick off returning duties to the tandem of Chris Moore and Dixon.

[whobilly]

For the seven kickoffs that are returned during the year who cares. Give the roster spot to a player that can help us more times than seven times.

[RavensFanMania]

not interested if we end up cutting one of our young players like Pierce because of the move.

[law215]

They should use that money to help get another CB. Ravens don't need to use a roster spot for just a return guy. Also, if used on offense then he is taking away snaps from younger players

[bioLarzen]

Well, it was kinda evident Reynolds wouldn't go to the final roster - so cutting him is inevitable if Harbaugh wants to bring him back on the PS (which I think is the plan). His camp and pre-season performance will likely make him available for the PS.

[bioLarzen]

They should use that money to help get another CB. Ravens don't need to use a roster spot for just a return guy. Also, if used on offense then he is taking away snaps from younger players

You won't get a servicable CB for the veteran minimum - for I'm quite sure it's what Hester will be offered if he convinces Harbaugh.

[PersianRaven]

  3 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

I'd prefer to wait for Cordarrelle Patterson to be cut.
Younger, better receiver than Campanaro, and better return man than either Campanaro or Hester (at this point in his career).

Also Tate from Cinci is a possible free agent choice.

Well, better return man, for sure, but his productivity at receiver has taken a nosedive the last few years.

Look at the Vikes QBs in the past 3 years tho!

[riseNConquer81]

4 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

I'd prefer to wait for Cordarrelle Patterson to be cut.
Younger, better receiver than Campanaro, and better return man than either Campanaro or Hester (at this point in his career).

Also Tate from Cinci is a possible free agent choice.

vehemently disagree. 
Cordarelle has been relegated to return duty because he's not been a very good receiver at all. 
Mike Wallace, Stefon Diggs, and Chris Johnson all got there AFTER Cordarelle, and he's still behind the 3 of them PLUS Jairus Wright, and Adam Thielsen on the depth chart.

At this point, Cordarelle is only called a receiver because "return specialist" isnt really an official position on a depth chart.

[jason0782]

the ravens should bring back ray rice for a workout I would love to see him back and besides none of the running backs have not looked very good either

[hen826957]

Wonder why the Ravens didn't at least try to put Reynolds on the practice squad? Now it seems that the Reynolds pick was a waste one in the draft. Hope nobody gets him.

[hen826957]

  1 hour ago, law215 said:

They should use that money to help get another CB. Ravens don't need to use a roster spot for just a return guy. Also, if used on offense then he is taking away snaps from younger players

You won't get a servicable CB for the veteran minimum - for I'm quite sure it's what Hester will be offered if he convinces Harbaugh.

They should've signed Antonio Cromartie before he went with the Colts. That was a descent veteran.

[ravenssection109]

Bring back Jacoby Jones ....

[Moderator 3]

31 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

Wonder why the Ravens didn't at least try to put Reynolds on the practice squad? Now it seems that the Reynolds pick was a waste one in the draft. Hope nobody gets him.

Teams can't form their practice squads until Sunday.

[January J]

17 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

here are the few surprises that I foresee for the final 53 man roster.

Campanaro will be cut, Carl Davis will be IRed, Devin Hester will be signed, Pierce will make the 53 man roster. 

I actually have a strange feeling that your right with all of the above. 

14 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

not interested if we end up cutting one of our young players like Pierce because of the move.

It wouldn't come at the expense of somebody like Peirce. If Hester is signed it is strictly at the expense of Campanaro IMO.

12 hours ago, jason0782 said:

the ravens should bring back ray rice for a workout I would love to see him back and besides none of the running backs have not looked very good either

 

What games have you been watchin? Just the fourth?

[metalraven]

  6 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

here are the few surprises that I foresee for the final 53 man roster.

Campanaro will be cut, Carl Davis will be IRed, Devin Hester will be signed, Pierce will make the 53 man roster. 

I actually have a strange feeling that your right with all of the above. 

  3 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

not interested if we end up cutting one of our young players like Pierce because of the move.

It wouldn't come at the expense of somebody like Peirce. If Hester is signed it is strictly at the expense of Campanaro IMO.

  47 minutes ago, jason0782 said:

the ravens should bring back ray rice for a workout I would love to see him back and besides none of the running backs have not looked very good either

lol

[Raven'evermore]

 Has Allen been used as a returner yet?  I can't recall, but if not I think he should be given a try.  If he works out well enough it would not only give us a returner, but an excuse to have more depth at the RB position in case of injury. 

[designermaryland]

Campanaro IMHO is gone. Did not show enough plays or do enough to put to rest injury concerns.

Looking at Hester is most likely as an "in case we need him" scenario. Hester would need to be more than just a returner to be signed asap.

I would expect to see Chris Moore getting more PR/KR opps. We all know they could easily throw Webb or SSSr. back there without much issue, minus potential for injury.

I would love to see campanaro gone. constant hype with almost no production and 2 years on IR, already been out injured this preseason. no way he will survive more than 2 games in a row and is a waste of a roster spot. i think they would wait until after week 1 to sign hester if needed, since his veteran salary would not be guaranteed and they could cut him if he does not work out. that would be low risk if they wait until after "opening day" rosters.

[verified]

i want to see price and will davis make it

[Halshayeji]

3 hours ago, hen826957 said:

Wonder why the Ravens didn't at least try to put Reynolds on the practice squad? Now it seems that the Reynolds pick was a waste one in the draft. Hope nobody gets him.

Another case of another painful but classy move by the Ravens. This gives Reynolds a better chance of picking a team rather than being picked up off waivers. I'm afraid he's as good as gone. Best of luck to the guy

[runcontrol]

Wonder why the Ravens didn't at least try to put Reynolds on the practice squad? Now it seems that the Reynolds pick was a waste one in the draft. Hope nobody gets him.

You have to waive a player before they are signed to the practice squad. That's why most people have suggested that they put him on IR.

[runcontrol]

Campanaro IMHO is gone. Did not show enough plays or do enough to put to rest injury concerns.

Looking at Hester is most likely as an "in case we need him" scenario. Hester would need to be more than just a returner to be signed asap.

I would expect to see Chris Moore getting more PR/KR opps. We all know they could easily throw Webb or SSSr. back there without much issue, minus potential for injury.

By your theory Pitta is going to be cut too. Pitta is more of an injury risk and he didn't play in any of the preseason games.

The Ravens know what they are getting with Campanaro and Pitta so unless someone beats them for their job, which hasn't happened, they aren't at risk of being cut.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  7 hours ago, hen826957 said:

Wonder why the Ravens didn't at least try to put Reynolds on the practice squad? Now it seems that the Reynolds pick was a waste one in the draft. Hope nobody gets him.

You have to waive a player before they are signed to the practice squad. That's why most people have suggested that they put him on IR.

A little gamesmanship by Ozzie. Reynolds was waived today meaning teams only have until tomorrow to claim him. Since most teams still haven't made their final cuts, its likely he doesnt get claimed. He can still sign elsewhere obviously but i really dont see that happening. Also, with his required Navy service, it would be easier here so close to the Naval Academy. I think he signs onto the practice squad.

[hen826957]

  7 hours ago, hen826957 said:

Wonder why the Ravens didn't at least try to put Reynolds on the practice squad? Now it seems that the Reynolds pick was a waste one in the draft. Hope nobody gets him.

Teams can't form their practice squads until Sunday.

Gotcha thanks. ?

[bioLarzen]

  10 hours ago, hen826957 said:

Wonder why the Ravens didn't at least try to put Reynolds on the practice squad? Now it seems that the Reynolds pick was a waste one in the draft. Hope nobody gets him.

You have to waive a player before they are signed to the practice squad. That's why most people have suggested that they put him on IR.

Yep - the only problem with putting him on the IR is that he cannot legally be trained by the Ravens stuff while on IR.

TBH, I don't see why so many people think Reynolds will be scooped up in an instant. His camp and pre-season tape won't exactly sell him... Which isn't a knock on him, he's converting to a position he had never ever played at before... So, I think there is a fair chance he'll be available and will end up on our PS.
There are 3 guys in any kind of real danger of being cut that would almost surely be picked up by another team: Butler, Pierce and Ochi. All the other guys are either safe with a more or less guaranteed spot on out final roster, or will have a good chance of going through waiver wire and be available for us to bring back to the PS - assuming they pick us over other PS offers.

What people like to forget that in a couple of days 704 players will be cut in the NFL. Every position will suddenly have a deep pool to choose from. With the exception of the three mentioned above, the other players we'll cut don't stand above the crowd. Maybe they won't be retained becuse Ozzie snatches other teams' cut players to the P... who knows... There are always players on the PS who were with other teams for the camp and pre-season...

[bioLarzen]

  15 hours ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

Campanaro IMHO is gone. Did not show enough plays or do enough to put to rest injury concerns.

Looking at Hester is most likely as an "in case we need him" scenario. Hester would need to be more than just a returner to be signed asap.

I would expect to see Chris Moore getting more PR/KR opps. We all know they could easily throw Webb or SSSr. back there without much issue, minus potential for injury.

By your theory Pitta is going to be cut too. Pitta is more of an injury risk and he didn't play in any of the preseason games.

The Ravens know what they are getting with Campanaro and Pitta so unless someone beats them for their job, which hasn't happened, they aren't at risk of being cut.

Also, Campanaro's slot capabilities are just too valuable. If the pre-season is in any way indicative of what we can expect in the regular season offense-wise, we won't use the TE's that much (our TE's were by and large invisible in the pre-season... the only TE-related thing in the pre-season I remember off the top of my head, is Watson's injury...) - leaving slot receivers all the more valuable.

[bioLarzen]

Guys, I don't think we have to read too much into this Hester-tester. I think it falls more into the category of "due diligence" - obtaining fresh info on what Hester is capable of, in case a need for a returner arises during the season. Hester will probably be available any time of the season.

You see, Hester is a kick returner - and nothing else. He was never a receiver, he never offered anything beyond returning kicks. And the NFL is working head over heels on diminishing the importance of kick returns. Kick-offs are from further down the field, touchbacks place the ball on the 25... they're clearly trying to make the returners think not twice but three times to attempt a return instead of a fair catch or let the kick sail for a touchback. Keeping a player who offers nothing beyond return capabilities makes less and less sense - especially whe you have serious and tough roster decisions to make anyway.

All in all, I highly doubt Hester will be signed - I don't even think it was the real goal of bringing him in. to begin with...

[Steve32]

the ravens should bring back ray rice for a workout I would love to see him back and besides none of the running backs have not looked very good either

You're kidding right?

[cobrajet]

  5 hours ago, runcontrol said:

  18 hours ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

Campanaro IMHO is gone. Did not show enough plays or do enough to put to rest injury concerns.

Looking at Hester is most likely as an "in case we need him" scenario. Hester would need to be more than just a returner to be signed asap.

I would expect to see Chris Moore getting more PR/KR opps. We all know they could easily throw Webb or SSSr. back there without much issue, minus potential for injury.

By your theory Pitta is going to be cut too. Pitta is more of an injury risk and he didn't play in any of the preseason games.

The Ravens know what they are getting with Campanaro and Pitta so unless someone beats them for their job, which hasn't happened, they aren't at risk of being cut.

Also, Campanaro's slot capabilities are just too valuable. If the pre-season is in any way indicative of what we can expect in the regular season offense-wise, we won't use the TE's that much (our TE's were by and large invisible in the pre-season... the only TE-related thing in the pre-season I remember off the top of my head, is Watson's injury...) - leaving slot receivers all the more valuable.

I agree. The short passes to the TE's this preseason showed they were not able to produce much of anything after the catch the way a shifty guy like Camp probably could. Of course slot guys do not provide much in the blocking dept. and a TE's size probably makes them more durable over a 16 game season. Personally, I love what a good slot guy can bring to the quick strike, fast tempo part of the game if your o-line is struggling at any point with another team's pass rush.

[fusuymada]

The league really needs to look at this roster issue. Other than expanding rosters, which is highly unlikely, and since they expanded the practice squad in recent years, they should look at allowing teams to designate 2 or 3 guys that they can put on the practice squad that other teams can't touch. Now if they are guaranteed to be on the final 53, then no one can stop a player from bettering his career, but if they are just going to put them on a practice squad then, no, they should be on the designating teams practice squad. Teams put a lot of time and effort into developmental players and there are those just on the bubble that teams want to hold on to because of their potential. And it is beneficial to the players to stay in the system they started in because it allows them to continue their progression of developing the skills they need and dropping them into another system handcuffs their development because now they are back in the playbook, questioning their assignments, etc...