Next up: Buffalo Bills at M&T Bank Stadium 9/11/16

[The Mom Gene]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanVisitor said:

I mean, I can list every offensive skill guy on our team, but does that really make them a weapon??? Steve Smith has the vet cunning to be effective; Mike Wallace can still break a deep play, heck, even Forsett can break out.  But the others, guys like Aiken, who the Bills cut from the roster, how concerned should we really be?  They have the talent, but it looks very unproven. 

You should be very. Do your homework on Aiken. 4th in the league last year after Smith went down and that was without Flacco.. Wallace and Perriman on the outside?  I could go on, but I will let you watch the games.  Just keep that other eye on the RAVENS.

[jboy19]

My read on the Bills is that there's a lot of young talented guys on the team that have things to prove. I think we need to find out if Jerry Hughes is going to be able to keep doing damage without Mario around, if Tyrod can carry the offense, if Gilmore is going to step up as a shutdown corner and if Darby is going to get over the rookie wall he hit last season and if the right side of the OL (Miller and Henderson) can step up. I think the Bills could do some damage this year if a couple of these end up working well for them. 

[BillsFanVisitor]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

You got a stat for that particular claim? I'd be curious to see it.

http://buffalofambase.org/2015/11/19/buffalo-bills-tyrod-taylor-needs-continue-qb-growth/

I forget where I found the league wide stat, its super interesting, but this article illustrates the point and its the best I could do while at work. The only caveat is that this particular article was after only nine games.  But it does discuss the pros and cons of a guy who stays in the pocket for as long as he does.  

[BillsFanVisitor]

3 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

You should be very. Do your homework on Aiken. 4th in the league last year after Smith went down. Wallace and Perriman on the outside?  I could go on, but I will let you watch the games.  Just keep that other eye on the RAVENS.

I'm always wary of big time producers on losing teams that don't have anyone else to go to.  Trust me, the Bills have been playing this game forever. Scott Chandler immediately comes to mind, Stevie Johnson, and others.  

[The Mom Gene]

1 minute ago, BillsFanVisitor said:

I'm always wary of big time producers on losing teams that don't have anyone else to go to.  Trust me, the Bills have been playing this game forever. Scott Chandler immediately comes to mind, Stevie Johnson, and others.  

... and yeah, Aiken (not new to the league) didn't have Flacco during that time either.  There's only one new guy...  Perriman.

[The Mom Gene]

@Billsfanvisitor....  I'll be watching.. You should too.

[BillsFanVisitor]

5 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

@Billsfanvisitor....  I'll be watching.. You should too.

I wouldn't miss it for the world! 

[trevorsteadman]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanVisitor said:

I'm always wary of big time producers on losing teams that don't have anyone else to go to.  Trust me, the Bills have been playing this game forever. Scott Chandler immediately comes to mind, Stevie Johnson, and others.  

One thing consistent about Aiken is every year the team puts more on his plate and he excels and takes off with it. The guy barely made the roster a few years back and he easily could have been a 1000 yard receiver. Yes the team was losing but his production grows each season. A comparison in my head is Marvin Jones talent wise. I think the Ravens now have enough talent to keep Steve Smith in the slot where he excels and have Wallace, Perriman, Aiken, and Moore on the edges to stretch the field with speed. Add in the solid rotation of tight ends.

I thought Scott Chandler was a tremendous player for you guys for a long time. Stevie Johnson I knew not so much but I was a big fan of Scott Chandler you hurt my feelings lol.

[Sami84]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanVisitor said:

I wouldn't miss it for the world! 

 

if you look at our SB winning offence it consisted of Boldin, Torrey smith, Pitta, Rice, Jacoby jones, Ed Dixon. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that our attacking weapons right now far supersede that and we have a lot more depth. KennethDixon looks a lot better than ray rice too. 

Torrey was always an average reciever but he could take the top off. Much like Wallace,Perriman,Moore can but those are 3 and they are better than torrey. 

[Sami84]

Stevie Johnson actually reminds me a lot of chris moore.

[trevorsteadman]

5 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

 

if you look at our SB winning offence it consisted of Boldin, Torrey smith, Pitta, Rice, Jacoby jones, Ed Dixon. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that our attacking weapons right now far supersede that and we have a lot more depth. KennethDixon looks a lot better than ray rice too. 

Torrey was always an average reciever but he could take the top off. Much like Wallace,Perriman,Moore can but those are 3 and they are better than torrey. 

While I want to agree that all depends on several if's but there is a good possibility of that. 

[ellicottraven]

We need to stop Buffalo's dual run threat first. I suspect Anthony Levine Sr. will be used as a tracker for Tyrod all through the game. He's got the speed and he'll be the one that makes or breaks the game. On offense we need to score points. My guess is we need to score at least 28 points to assure us of a victory, because the Bills are going to score. They have too many good offensive weapons and our D is still coming together as a team. The most critical offensive weapons for us will be how we run and how well our receivers perform especially our deep threats.

[lgcs27288]

12 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

We need to stop Buffalo's dual run threat first. I suspect Anthony Levine Sr. will be used as a tracker for Tyrod all through the game. He's got the speed and he'll be the one that makes or breaks the game. On offense we need to score points. My guess is we need to score at least 28 points to assure us of a victory, because the Bills are going to score. They have too many good offensive weapons and our D is still coming together as a team. The most critical offensive weapons for us will be how we run and how well our receivers perform especially our deep threats.

Whos the 2nd part of their running game? From what I've been reading, McCoy is going to take the bulk of the load. Tyrod?

Edited September 7, 2016 by lgcs27288

[Sami84]

apparently seantrel henderson has been banned for 4 games.

Edited September 7, 2016 by Sami84

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

apparently seantrel henderson has been banned for 4 games.

1. Don't believe he was expected to play anyway.

2. If he were to appeal, he could most likely play this week, given the short turnaround time.

[Sami84]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. Don't believe he was expected to play anyway.

2. If he were to appeal, he could most likely play this week, given the short turnaround time.

 

yeah..true. I think it was for his crohns disease. He'll be passed.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, BillsFanVisitor said:

You are right, he is not high end, at least not yet; obviously our hope is that he will become that guy.  Please don't take my post as a personal attack.  It was the accumulation of a number of different comments I have seen on this board.  

 No offense taken lol I just know I was deep in the tyrod argument and I may have made some false points but I've seen a lot of fellow posters make some points that are completely off base, like cloud nine type statements that were pulled out of thin air lol

 

1 hour ago, BillsFanVisitor said:

I mean, I can list every offensive skill guy on our team, but does that really make them a weapon??? Steve Smith has the vet cunning to be effective; Mike Wallace can still break a deep play, heck, even Forsett can break out.  But the others, guys like Aiken, who the Bills cut from the roster, how concerned should we really be?  They have the talent, but it looks very unproven. 

You're not giving aiken his fair due and it's understandable. I was writing him off last off-season as a flash in the pan and I didn't buy into him even a littleuntil the season was over. Aiken was very good last year, one of the best receivers the 2nd half of the season, he made himself available and was very reliable in all levels of the field. He's worked hard at his craft and has become a solid route runner and has done very well to get his hands and body control right, he has supreme tenacity going after the ball and is a natural hands catcher and plays very tough. He will be a handful for any corner without physicality and a well rounded skillset, you gotta be able to man up with him and at the same time have the quickness and ball skills to prevent the catch, which can be hard to do since flacco can really rifle a boundaries pass in the blink of an eye

[RavensPunkXVX]

What's up with Doom? Not practicing again. Za'Darius back though

[rmcjacket23]

3 minutes ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

What's up with Doom? Not practicing again. Za'Darius back though

Yeah looking like Doom is questionable at best for Sunday. Looks like he, Powers and Dixon are headed for inactive status on Sunday.

Also reported that Pitta was wearing non-contact jersey, so he could be considered questionable for Sunday as well.

[trevorsteadman]

4 minutes ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

What's up with Doom? Not practicing again. Za'Darius back though

He had his surgery way later than he probably should have.. Gonna take the veteran awhile to get back. I wish he would have had it earlier.

[Sami84]

20 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

 No offense taken lol I just know I was deep in the tyrod argument and I may have made some false points but I've seen a lot of fellow posters make some points that are completely off base, like cloud nine type statements that were pulled out of thin air lol

 

You're not giving aiken his fair due and it's understandable. I was writing him off last off-season as a flash in the pan and I didn't buy into him even a littleuntil the season was over. Aiken was very good last year, one of the best receivers the 2nd half of the season, he made himself available and was very reliable in all levels of the field. He's worked hard at his craft and has become a solid route runner and has done very well to get his hands and body control right, he has supreme tenacity going after the ball and is a natural hands catcher and plays very tough. He will be a handful for any corner without physicality and a well rounded skillset, you gotta be able to man up with him and at the same time have the quickness and ball skills to prevent the catch, which can be hard to do since flacco can really rifle a boundaries pass in the blink of an eye

 

You know, Aikens story makes me even more peeved about letting butler go. 

[The Mom Gene]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

You know, Aikens story makes me even more peeved about letting butler go. 

Nahhh, Aiken's good

[Edug27]

Can we stop mentioning Butler please.

[January J]

11 hours ago, Davesta said:

How do you guys see the reps being played out for west / forsett? I'm only asking because I have forsett in my fantasy, and it's either I play him or Jonathan Stewart vs broncos D lol

Hot hand.

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

We need to stop Buffalo's dual run threat first. I suspect Anthony Levine Sr. will be used as a tracker for Tyrod all through the game. He's got the speed and he'll be the one that makes or breaks the game. On offense we need to score points. My guess is we need to score at least 28 points to assure us of a victory, because the Bills are going to score. They have too many good offensive weapons and our D is still coming together as a team. The most critical offensive weapons for us will be how we run and how well our receivers perform especially our deep threats.

Good point. I imagine Levine will be shadowing Reynolds all week during practice prepping for that slippery son of a gun. If we keep him contained they have no shot. Would help to have doom out there but if he's not ready we don't wanna comprise his health. 

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, BillsFanVisitor said:

http://buffalofambase.org/2015/11/19/buffalo-bills-tyrod-taylor-needs-continue-qb-growth/

I forget where I found the league wide stat, its super interesting, but this article illustrates the point and its the best I could do while at work. The only caveat is that this particular article was after only nine games.  But it does discuss the pros and cons of a guy who stays in the pocket for as long as he does.  

Ah, okay, I see.

It doesn't actually say he stays in the pocket the longest; just that he has the most time to pass the ball, which doesn't surprise me. From C to LT, he's got a legit offensive line (I'm not sold on Miller or Mills) and Tyrod does know how to manipulate the pocket really well with his feet. 

The only reason I was kinda confused by that statement is because Tyrod is really short (6'1") with the average lineman probably ranging between 6'3" to 6'7"+, so he'd have some obstructed passing lanes if he just sat in the pocket, especially if defender's got their hands up. 

I think his height is the biggest obstacle in him being an accurate passer over the middle.

[JoeyFlex5]

13 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

You know, Aikens story makes me even more peeved about letting butler go. 

Yeahh I'm of the crowd that doesn't see us keeping him. He'll probably have a decent year and get overpaid to be a #2.

[Cawtious]

Guess what I am looking for is that we put the game away with a lead.  Seems last year we just did not finish games strong in the 4th.  That is the biggest element I'm going to look for is a change in that problem from this team.  Get a lead, keep the lead, finish teams off.  Minimize the long 3rd down conversions and avoid stupid penalties that extend drives.

We have a great chance to start the season with a strong record.  This game is critical to setting that tone. 

[VermontRaven]

1 hour ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

What's up with Doom? Not practicing again. Za'Darius back though

Doom not playing this weekend.  http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17486921/baltimore-ravens-linebacker-elvis-dumervil-said-play-season-opener

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Not usually a pessimist but Doom is our best pass rusher, not too confident about winning now

[Rav'n Maniac]

1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

He had his surgery way later than he probably should have.. Gonna take the veteran awhile to get back. I wish he would have had it earlier.

This I agree with. I understand waiting awhile after the season and hoping the issue would heal on it's own but I feel he should have had the surgery long before he did. He wouldn't be missing all of camp, preseason and now games if he had it taken care of sooner.