[News] Late For Work 8/30: Perriman's Long-Awaited Debut Here? Flacco's Release 'Scorching Fast'

[BR News]

Joe Flacco’s injury isn’t the only reason he’s getting the ball out quickly. Ravens have a tough call between John Urschel and Alex Lewis. Ravens reunion with Paul Kruger unlikely. Three more roster moves that could be made today.

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[fusuymada]

I think the battle we need to be looking at is the battle between Urschel and Zuttah for starting center. Zuttah has been manhandled all preseason and now he is injured and missing practice again. He is paid a lot more money than Urschel and there is virtually no loss of skill by putting Urschel in his spot. As we learned with Matt Birk, the center certainly needs intellect to identify the defense and call the right blocking scheme. That is something Urschel can handle well. Also, Urschel doesn't have the bulk that Lewis has and is better suited to be a center than a guard, which has to have that mauler mentallity. Now, the hold up on that is that Urschel can't seem to get better from a soft tissue injury. Unless that soft tissue is his privates, I don't see why it should take him 3 weeks to recover from a bruise.

[20306cab]

Man, Kruger is ONE guy I would at least look at. I guess he got released for a reason, but it can't hurt to talk to him. Suggs and Doom aren't getting any younger, and the injury thing is a real possibility. The rest of the guys they have, other than McClellan, have proven nothing. Hey, getting out of Cleveland could revitalize anyone.

[bioLarzen]

I'm pretty sure Reynolds will land on the IR, too. This seems to be the only solution that makes sense. Why? I guess we can all agree on that he's obviously nowhere near worthy of an 53-man roster spot YET. Which was to be expected after all: we are talking about a 6th round pick who's switched to a position he's never ever played at. I think it's also clear that Harbaugh is intent of keeping him in Baltimore, and doesn't want to risk losing him. The only way to make it sure without granting a roster spot is stashing him on the IR.

The same would apply to Butler - but I'd be stunned if he didn't make the final cut and end up on the 53-man roster... I mean what else would have to do to prove his case???

[bioLarzen]

11 minutes ago, 20306cab said:

Man, Kruger is ONE guy I would at least look at. I guess he got released for a reason, but it can't hurt to talk to him. Suggs and Doom aren't getting any younger, and the injury thing is a real possibility. The rest of the guys they have, other than McClellan, have proven nothing. Hey, getting out of Cleveland could revitalize anyone.

Cap figure.
We don't need a starting OLB, so there's no way Ozzie would offer him starrting OLB money. Oh the other hand, othger teams who are still looking for starting caliber guys at the position, will.

Just like 3 seasons ago, Kruger will follow the money. Which is understood.

And then we haven't even mentioned the problem of roster spots. We have enough tough decisions to make anyway... adding another player to a position we are not thin at to begin with, would just add to the problem. If we had the luxury of a free roster spot, I would consider having one more WR or O-lineman - or maybe keeping Josh Johnson... not one more OLB.

 

Oh, and as for "getting out of Cleveland" revitalizing everyone... jsut take a look at Jordan Cameron's stats before and after leaving Cleveland...

Edited August 30, 2016 by bioLarzen

[757RavensFan]

31 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

I think the battle we need to be looking at is the battle between Urschel and Zuttah for starting center. Zuttah has been manhandled all preseason and now he is injured and missing practice again. He is paid a lot more money than Urschel and there is virtually no loss of skill by putting Urschel in his spot. As we learned with Matt Birk, the center certainly needs intellect to identify the defense and call the right blocking scheme. That is something Urschel can handle well. Also, Urschel doesn't have the bulk that Lewis has and is better suited to be a center than a guard, which has to have that mauler mentallity. Now, the hold up on that is that Urschel can't seem to get better from a soft tissue injury. Unless that soft tissue is his privates, I don't see why it should take him 3 weeks to recover from a bruise.

Ummm Urschel has missed the last 2 weeks due to injury. He's missed more time than Zuttah.   

Edited August 30, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[stixfix69]

No need into looking at Kruger, as Z, and Judon are killing it camp.....KC is another option,...We are young and talented, mixed with Suggs, and Doom, makes for a solid pass rushing crew.....

[jravens1313]

That photo of Levine and Suggs is great! "El Jefe". If Perriman plays this week, it might be the most watch 4th Preseason game in Ravens history. Baltimore is ready for 4.26.

[jravens1313]

I'm pretty sure Reynolds will land on the IR, too. This seems to be the only solution that makes sense. Why? I guess we can all agree on that he's obviously nowhere near worthy of an 53-man roster spot YET. Which was to be expected after all: we are talking about a 6th round pick who's switched to a position he's never ever played at. I think it's also clear that Harbaugh is intent of keeping him in Baltimore, and doesn't want to risk losing him. The only way to make it sure without granting a roster spot is stashing him on the IR.

The same would apply to Butler - but I'd be stunned if he didn't make the final cut and end up on the 53-man roster... I mean what else would have to do to prove his case???

Butler is on 53 man roster for sure, especially with the injury to Dixon and Watson. The question comes between C. Moore and Campanaro. I think Campanao falls short because of the medical history.

[jravens1313]

I think the battle we need to be looking at is the battle between Urschel and Zuttah for starting center. Zuttah has been manhandled all preseason and now he is injured and missing practice again. He is paid a lot more money than Urschel and there is virtually no loss of skill by putting Urschel in his spot. As we learned with Matt Birk, the center certainly needs intellect to identify the defense and call the right blocking scheme. That is something Urschel can handle well. Also, Urschel doesn't have the bulk that Lewis has and is better suited to be a center than a guard, which has to have that mauler mentallity. Now, the hold up on that is that Urschel can't seem to get better from a soft tissue injury. Unless that soft tissue is his privates, I don't see why it should take him 3 weeks to recover from a bruise.

I agree, for our system, Lewis is a better fit at G than Urschel. We need maulers at G.

[January J]

27 minutes ago, jravens1313 said:

Butler is on 53 man roster for sure, especially with the injury to Dixon and Watson. The question comes between C. Moore and Campanaro. I think Campanao falls short because of the medical history.

Chris Moore a question? And if camp falls short who's returning punts?

They are both locks bud.

[hen826957]

Yayyyyyy!!!!!! Perriman. ?

[rmcjacket23]

I think the battle we need to be looking at is the battle between Urschel and Zuttah for starting center. Zuttah has been manhandled all preseason and now he is injured and missing practice again. He is paid a lot more money than Urschel and there is virtually no loss of skill by putting Urschel in his spot. As we learned with Matt Birk, the center certainly needs intellect to identify the defense and call the right blocking scheme. That is something Urschel can handle well. Also, Urschel doesn't have the bulk that Lewis has and is better suited to be a center than a guard, which has to have that mauler mentallity. Now, the hold up on that is that Urschel can't seem to get better from a soft tissue injury. Unless that soft tissue is his privates, I don't see why it should take him 3 weeks to recover from a bruise.

Could be wrong, but I believe Jensen has been the one taking snaps at center in Zuttah's absence. It seems those two are somewhat "competing" for that role, not Urschel.

Believe Urschel is squarely being considered for LG only at this point. I don't think the coaching staff was very happy with his play at C last season.

All moot, because Zuttah is a fine C and will be the starter there unless he gets hurt.

[Crusader]

Yayyyyyy!!!!!! Perriman. ?

Casper has not appeared yet so hold your horses. We heard that before.

[sami]

I think the battle we need to be looking at is the battle between Urschel and Zuttah for starting center. Zuttah has been manhandled all preseason and now he is injured and missing practice again. He is paid a lot more money than Urschel and there is virtually no loss of skill by putting Urschel in his spot. As we learned with Matt Birk, the center certainly needs intellect to identify the defense and call the right blocking scheme. That is something Urschel can handle well. Also, Urschel doesn't have the bulk that Lewis has and is better suited to be a center than a guard, which has to have that mauler mentallity. Now, the hold up on that is that Urschel can't seem to get better from a soft tissue injury. Unless that soft tissue is his privates, I don't see why it should take him 3 weeks to recover from a bruise.

deep tissue bruises take a long time to heal especially if they are on the legs. The muscle is not only painful but weakened.

[Crusader]

So when was the last time the Ravens brought back a player that left for whatever reason?

[eze17]

  1 hour ago, jravens1313 said:

Butler is on 53 man roster for sure, especially with the injury to Dixon and Watson. The question comes between C. Moore and Campanaro. I think Campanao falls short because of the medical history.

Chris Moore a question? And if camp falls short who's returning punts?

They are both locks bud.

Agreed that barring injuries, both make the team. I still waver on carrying seven WR, but with Watson's injury it seems more plausible that Butler squeaks in, for both doing everything asked of him and given he's almost the only WR that has shown he can stay healthy. My concern is that with seven WR on the roster, at least one, maybe even two are game day in-actives. Moore would seem the easiest to sit, and if all the other guys are healthy Butler really wouldn't be needed either. So while its nice to have all these offensive weapons, some of these guys would be merely practice players in any case.

[Fastynart]

Perriman, Perriman, Perriman. Just like we heard Elam, Elam, Elam. Perriman is a guy from a mid level college, who was known as a pass dropper, but, because of his "speed", the Ravens decided to blow another number one pick on him 2 years ago. Since then he hasn't even gotten on the field. After two knee surgeries, how much of that coveted speed will he still have, and, even if he does, how does that translate into miraculously holding on to the ball? Chris Moore is head and shoulders above Perriman.
It is nice to have the problem Urschel or Lewis. Both are capable. Sooner or later we will need them. One starts, the other a capable back up.

[J.O.14]

Perriman, Perriman, Perriman. Just like we heard Elam, Elam, Elam. Perriman is a guy from a mid level college, who was known as a pass dropper, but, because of his "speed", the Ravens decided to blow another number one pick on him 2 years ago. Since then he hasn't even gotten on the field. After two knee surgeries, how much of that coveted speed will he still have, and, even if he does, how does that translate into miraculously holding on to the ball? Chris Moore is head and shoulders above Perriman.
It is nice to have the problem Urschel or Lewis. Both are capable. Sooner or later we will need them. One starts, the other a capable back up.

Easy to say that Moore is head and shoulders above Perriman when Perriman hasn't had a chance to showcase his skills. I think holding your opinion is better than stating it when you haven't seen the kid play. Give him a chance first. Our fan base has that problem.

[RayRocks]

4 minutes ago, Fastynart said:

Perriman, Perriman, Perriman. Just like we heard Elam, Elam, Elam. Perriman is a guy from a mid level college, who was known as a pass dropper, but, because of his "speed", the Ravens decided to blow another number one pick on him 2 years ago. Since then he hasn't even gotten on the field. After two knee surgeries, how much of that coveted speed will he still have, and, even if he does, how does that translate into miraculously holding on to the ball? Chris Moore is head and shoulders above Perriman.
It is nice to have the problem Urschel or Lewis. Both are capable. Sooner or later we will need them. One starts, the other a capable back up.

I hope you'll eat your words when he turns into a playmaker for us

[J.O.14]

Man, Kruger is ONE guy I would at least look at. I guess he got released for a reason, but it can't hurt to talk to him. Suggs and Doom aren't getting any younger, and the injury thing is a real possibility. The rest of the guys they have, other than McClellan, have proven nothing. Hey, getting out of Cleveland could revitalize anyone.

I'd take our young guns over Kruger any day. Z. Smith is going to have a productive season, and Correa will get snaps at every LB position. Suggs and Doom will do their thing, and Judon will spell them in pass rush situations sometimes. Then add in McClellan who is stout against the run. Tell me, where is Kruger needed? He has had 2 decent seasons in his 7 year career.

Suggs, Doom, Smith, Correa, Judon, and McClellan.

Kruger doesn't fit here.

[hen826957]

Brandon Browner has been released. Ozzie could take a look there for more depth at the secondary but it would cause someone a roster spot.

[757RavensFan]

2 hours ago, jravens1313 said:

Butler is on 53 man roster for sure, especially with the injury to Dixon and Watson. The question comes between C. Moore and Campanaro. I think Campanao falls short because of the medical history.

And we wouldn't have a single decent punt returner if he's cut. If they only keep 6 WRs, Camp will make it over Butler b/c of Camp's PR skills. 

[hen826957]

9 hours ago, hen826957 said:

Brandon Browner has been released. Ozzie could take a look there for more depth at the secondary but it would cause someone a roster spot.

But according to NFL fans. They say that he couldn't cover anymore. So that's that.

Edited August 31, 2016 by hen826957

[OUravensfan]

53 minutes ago, RayRocks said:

I hope you'll eat your words when he turns into a playmaker for us

I hope they're both amazing and you both eat your words lol... Not that you were insinuating Moore wouldn't be good, I can't wait to see this WR crew

[Steve32]

Perriman, Perriman, Perriman. Just like we heard Elam, Elam, Elam. Perriman is a guy from a mid level college, who was known as a pass dropper, but, because of his "speed", the Ravens decided to blow another number one pick on him 2 years ago. Since then he hasn't even gotten on the field. After two knee surgeries, how much of that coveted speed will he still have, and, even if he does, how does that translate into miraculously holding on to the ball? Chris Moore is head and shoulders above Perriman.
It is nice to have the problem Urschel or Lewis. Both are capable. Sooner or later we will need them. One starts, the other a capable back up.

You are totally wrong about Perriman.
Obviously you have not been reading this website or you would know just how well Perriman is doing.
In fact. Trestman has commented on his concentration and great hands.

[20306cab]

  3 hours ago, jravens1313 said:

Butler is on 53 man roster for sure, especially with the injury to Dixon and Watson. The question comes between C. Moore and Campanaro. I think Campanao falls short because of the medical history.

And we wouldn't have a single decent punt returner if he's cut. If they only keep 6 WRs, Camp will make it over Butler b/c of Camp's PR skills. 

PR skills, huh? FIVE PR's in TWO years. Camp is small, and proven to be fragile. I'd take Butler and Moore over Camp in a heartbeat. They can catch the ball, and can also be gunners on ST's. Bigger, faster, stronger. By the Way, Webb is the best PR they have.

[Maryland]

Anyone else noticing how they chose a photo of Flacco using terrible mechanics (throwing off his back foot) as the headlining image for this article? lol

And I have to admit, that's a pretty insane bust rate for 1st round receivers who miss a lot of time. Hopefully modern medical advances will improve that rate

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Anyone else noticing how they chose a photo of Flacco using terrible mechanics (throwing off his back foot) as the headlining image for this article? lol

And I have to admit, that's a pretty insane bust rate for 1st round receivers who miss a lot of time. Hopefully modern medical advances will improve that rate

Yes, the "bust rate" for 1st round receivers is a bit unsettling, but simply basing optimism off this stat is absurd. There are many factors that play into success and at the end of the day none of those other players are named Breshard Perriman. He is the player that controls his success, not a list of past players.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  1 hour ago, 757RavensFan said:

  3 hours ago, jravens1313 said:

Butler is on 53 man roster for sure, especially with the injury to Dixon and Watson. The question comes between C. Moore and Campanaro. I think Campanao falls short because of the medical history.

And we wouldn't have a single decent punt returner if he's cut. If they only keep 6 WRs, Camp will make it over Butler b/c of Camp's PR skills. 

PR skills, huh? FIVE PR's in TWO years. Camp is small, and proven to be fragile. I'd take Butler and Moore over Camp in a heartbeat. They can catch the ball, and can also be gunners on ST's. Bigger, faster, stronger. By the Way, Webb is the best PR they have.

Agreed. Campanaro has not yet shown the consistent ability to be relied upon. Butler on the other hand has been making plays and stepped up his consistency, not to mention is regularly in the line up. Bit of a shame, since Campanaro obviously has moves, etc but that is meaningless unless he is regularly on the field for games. I also do not see him bringing much better PR skills than others they can put back there, maybe a yard or two average. Unless they want a specialist, which you gotta pay for, just does not make much sense.