2016 WRs. Best the Ravens Have Ever Had?

[Mad Puppy]

I like Reynolds better than Camp Ceiling is much higher. Camp won't play much anyway. as 6th receiver, and Punts we just haven't had much of a sample size this offseason.

 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

13 hours ago, Ravens4Real said:

But let me play the game with you.....

I like the group that we have put together but until they produce on the field, then it basically means nothing. 

I'm not playing games. I'm just giving an opinion supported in research. This is the 'Best' Ravens Receiving Unit "... we've had in place going into the season until proven otherwise (which is currently, overwhelmingly against the odds). "

I read the question as relative to the 'Here and Now - Today - Currently'. When we don't do this It's too easy to think in hypotheticals and not present a direct opinion that gives more thought and/or commentary.

For example: If there is another Ravens receiving core who was more deep, talented, achieved, effective with a QB and O-line to match and support all those qualities at this point of the season (with 1 more pre-season game remaining) why not just name them? I want to learn more on Ravens history. 

If I misread the post and it's not referring to the here and now then everything's off-the-table. There is no tangible conversation - just unsupported theory.

Just like you, "I really like group that we have put together..." - my only difference is no ifs, ands or buts here until I have cause to think otherwise.

Edited August 31, 2016 by jkm5bmore
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[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

If Perriman turns into the WR he's capable of being then yes.. This will be. He's a physical freak who can make circus catches and has experience in a route tree who just needs to improve there. If he can stay healthy. Also account for the fact that for the first time in years Wallace finally has a QB who can maximize his talents. Flacco's got a cannon and even his haters can't deny it. Possibly the strongest arm in the entire NFL. He's a legit comeback player of the year candidate because of it and he and Flacco seem to have legit chemistry. Wallace still has the potential to be one of the best deep threats in the league.

 

I'm telling you, our team on both sides of the ball contains a lot of question marks, wide receiver included, but if we can fire on all cylinders then the answer is yes. Savy veteran Steve Smith, with potential freak in Perriman who you might not ever be able to cover, add one of the better deep threats in recent memory with Wallace, add Kamar Aiken who's proven he can be a rock solid possesion WR casted with Chris Moore who's flashed in the preseason and can also be a potent deep threat... With the TE corps we have and the RB depth. That's not a fun offense to play. 

 

The future is bright for the offense. WR corps especially if we can find a decent player to spell Steve Smith when he leaves then the WR corps will get better. There's a lot of ifs, but potentially yes. 

[RAYvenFan20]

Sss. That's how he is

Edited August 31, 2016 by RAYvenFan20

[Ravensfan23]

4 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

I like Reynolds better than Camp Ceiling is much higher. Camp won't play much anyway. as 6th receiver, and Punts we just haven't had much of a sample size this offseason.

 

Camp will play plenty. Even if he's listed as the #7 WR he'll play plenty because he's the only guy who can bring the shifty type of slot WR the Ravens really want for this offense. SSS, Wallace, Aiken, Perriman and Camp will be the 5 guys who are dressed every game imo. Butler and Moore will have to show up big on ST to be active on game day, but Camp will certain get plenty of offensive snaps from the slot. 

Reynolds may very well have a higher ceiling as a play maker, but he has to develop as a WR first and then prove he can be relied on at the NFL level. Although a small sample size the Ravens coaches have seen Camp show in big time games and feel injuries are the only thing holding him back. If he can stay healthy then he'll be a big part of what the Ravens want to do on offense. If he doesn't stay healthy then Reynolds better be ready to step up. Assuming he makes the PS which I believe he will. 

[Ravensfan23]

3 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

If Perriman turns into the WR he's capable of being then yes.. This will be. He's a physical freak who can make circus catches and has experience in a route tree who just needs to improve there. If he can stay healthy. Also account for the fact that for the first time in years Wallace finally has a QB who can maximize his talents. Flacco's got a cannon and even his haters can't deny it. Possibly the strongest arm in the entire NFL. He's a legit comeback player of the year candidate because of it and he and Flacco seem to have legit chemistry. Wallace still has the potential to be one of the best deep threats in the league.

 

I'm telling you, our team on both sides of the ball contains a lot of question marks, wide receiver included, but if we can fire on all cylinders then the answer is yes. Savy veteran Steve Smith, with potential freak in Perriman who you might not ever be able to cover, add one of the better deep threats in recent memory with Wallace, add Kamar Aiken who's proven he can be a rock solid possesion WR casted with Chris Moore who's flashed in the preseason and can also be a potent deep threat... With the TE corps we have and the RB depth. That's not a fun offense to play. 

 

The future is bright for the offense. WR corps especially if we can find a decent player to spell Steve Smith when he leaves then the WR corps will get better. There's a lot of ifs, but potentially yes. 

Everything falls on Perriman being the guy they expect him to be in terms of the future. He's the only potential #1 type guy on the roster and if he can become that the rest of the WR corp can form around him. If he's the guy, then you'll potentially have 2 solid-good possession guys in Aiken and Butler. If Aiken has another good year he could walk in FA. You have a guy in Moore who looks to be more than just a field stretcher and couldn't possibly develop into a solid #2 type of guy. Camp and Reynolds bring that shifty slot guy the Ravens really want. But again it all rest on Perriman imo. If he's giving defenses nightmares and teams have to roll coverage to him then it opens things up for the rest of those guys who become even better if they can play along side a legit #1 WR. 

[Maryland]

It might be the deepest we've had in awhile, though I think the trio of Mason, Boldin, and Heap would be the best group of pass-catchers we've had in terms of top-tier talent. I'm not too familiar with those 90s rosters, since I was less than 10 years old at the time lol, but I see our receiving corps put up some stats with Testaverde at QB, so I can see why some would nominate Michael Jackson and co. 

Edited September 1, 2016 by Maryland

[usmccharles]

Potential is the keyword 

[PurpleCity5]

Bobby Engram has done such a great job. I really think these guys are ready to go at it. Jeremy Butler has been magnificent this pre-season and has made it pretty much impossible for the team to cut him, I think he can definitely be an impact player for us. 

[Ravenslifer]

I think the 1996 Ravens with Jackson and Alexander are still the best receiving group in franchise history - 2 1000-yard receivers plus the 600-yard season from Kinchen - we were second in passing yards that year and 6th in total offense, 6th in scoring.  These players in 2016 are exciting for their skill sets, but the question remains - will we get 16 games out of SSS, Perriman, and Pitta, and what will guys like Mike Wallace, coming off a down season, and Kamar Aiken, now demoted after his best season as a pro, be able to bring to the table?  And we also have Maxx Williams and Crocket Gilmore coming off injury and Darren Waller trying to learn a new position.  Part of the success of years like 1996, 2010, and 2012 is we had guys who had played at least a full season together prior to that season - it's going to take time for the players on offense to adjust to each other and Flacco's arm, and it's going to take time for the offensive line, with a rookie LT, to find it's way. In 1996 we Basically had the same crew, the difference being Rison of the 95 Browns was replaced by Alexander. But Jackson, Testeverde, and Kinchen were all returning starters that had a full season working together under their belts.  Remember in 2011 Dickson was the dominant tight end - it wasn't until 2012 that the Pitta-Flacco connection showed us what it could be.  I think this year will have several bumps and growing pains, especially at the beginning of the season.

Edited September 3, 2016 by Ravenslifer

[Militant X 1]

On 8/30/2016 at 9:42 AM, flynismo said:

It is without question the DEEPEST we have ever been in the history of this team. No question at all.

Will it be the best? That will depend on what SSS still has left in the tank, whether Wallace can bounce back after some down years, and how quickly Perriman develops. 

On paper, the potential is there for this to be the best WR group in the NFL, especially when we include Aiken and Moore in the mix. But that would require too many things to go right to expect it to actually turn out that way. We can't reasonably expect SSS to play like an elite WR at 37 years old AND Wallace to resurrect his career AND Perriman to have a big "rookie" season. But if two of those three things happen, which is a lot more reasonable to expect, then yes, this will be both the deepest and most talented roster we have ever had at WR.

Great points!