Cuts from Other Teams We Might Consider

[Cillmatic]

12 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

Talib is exactly the kind of player who would put our defense over the top. Big dominant press corner with serious coverage skills and splash play ability on top of that. He gives WR's fits, not much of a fan of his antics but he's a hell of a player.

 

Will never happen, but I can dream right?

Is that the guy shot himself and Steve hates?

[RaineV1]

20 hours ago, January J said:

Beats the hell out of me. Why they wouldnt have given up considerably less for a qb that isnt far off from Bradford talent wise is beyond me. Bradford has more invested in him that's about it. They just mortgaged their future for a middle tier qb when all they need is a game manager with the offense they run anyway. Bonehead move IMO.

Agreed. The Ravens probably would have given up Mallet for like a 4th or 5th, and it's not like Bradford gives them a shot at a championship or anything.

[ALPHA]

Its a pipe dream but Sitton and Yanda would be the greatest guard pairing in history.

[GrimCoconut]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

im not too familiar with the exacts of how comp picks work, but i think we pretty much eliminated any chance of a 3rd or 4th comp by signing watson. also, upshaw barely made above the vet minimum, and idk schaubs numbers but id imagine theyre low, and contract price being the biggest determining factor, i would think they make very little difference. 

this is just based on the little bit that i know about comp picks.. i could be way off base here, idk.

Upshaw and Schaub should help us keep our compensatory pick. Matt got nearly 3M, so he helped secure our high comp himself. 

[rmw10]

 

[BmoreBird22]

12 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

Chicago makes the most sense. Ravens won't play Green Bay again until next year, right?

The Saints have the least cap space in the NFL, so I don't even know how they'll sign a full practice squad. 

The Ravens are actually at a healthy $16.5M and should end with about $11M after the practice squad and 53, if I'm not mistaken. That'd be more than enough to sign Sitton. Although, they're sitting at $14.5M for next year, so probably want to roll a lot over.

Edited September 4, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[Sami84]

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Chicago makes the most sense. Ravens won't play Green Bay again until next year, right?

The Saints have the least cap space in the NFL, so I don't even know how they'll sign a full practice squad. 

The Ravens are actually at a healthy $16.5M and should end with about $11M after the practice squad and 53, if I'm not mistaken. That'd be more than enough to sign Sitton. Although, they're sitting at $14.5M for next year, so probably want to roll a lot over.

 

dont worry. we getting devin hester  Why settle for a 30 year old All-pro gaurd for the last 4 seasons when you can waste a roster spot on a 33 year old past his prime kick returner. in ozzie we trust!

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

dont worry. we getting devin hester  Why settle for a 30 year old All-pro gaurd for the last 4 seasons when you can waste a roster spot on a 33 year old past his prime kick returner. in ozzie we trust!

You're making the assumption that Sitton even wants to come here. He's probably going to be most enticed by Chicago.

[Sami84]

lol..I'm just saying this whole KR thing has been blown out of proporation. Hester doesnt not have the speed anymore which is the point. We wasted a precious roster spot on a guy who won't produce.

[BmoreBird22]

10 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

lol..I'm just saying this whole KR thing has been blown out of proporation. Hester doesnt not have the speed anymore which is the point. We wasted a precious roster spot on a guy who won't produce.

Kick returns are more valuable now than last year given the rule changes. No team wants to give up a free kick to the 25, so they'll force returns. 

Who would you have put on over Hester?

[ALPHA]

14 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Well..if this FO is as magical as it seems to think it is..and the fans too for that matter, make it happen..

We won a SB with this FO right? I didnt imagine that?

[Sami84]

11 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Kick returns are more valuable now than last year given the rule changes. No team wants to give up a free kick to the 25, so they'll force returns. 

Who would you have put on over Hester?

 

Why not chris moore? At the end of the day we could have given jeremy butler a spot but decided that a 33-34 year old past his prime returner was deemed more worthy. Ravens place too much emphasis on the past..

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Why not chris moore? At the end of the day we could have given jeremy butler a spot but decided that a 33-34 year old past his prime returner was deemed more worthy. Ravens place too much emphasis on the past..

Chris Moore had a grand total of 1 actual kick return this preseason, and saw 0 reps on punt returns.

[Sami84]

Just now, rmw10 said:

Chris Moore had a grand total of 1 actual kick return this preseason, and saw 0 reps on punt returns.

So what??..its not rocket science.

[rmw10]

Just now, Sami84 said:

So what??..its not rocket science.

Tell that to all of the other guys that got an opportunity and clearly didn't work out.

[Sami84]

Just now, rmw10 said:

Tell that to all of the other guys that got an opportunity and clearly didn't work out.

its about holding on to the football. btw hester has fumbled before..so if he fumbles he gets cut? the problem with this organization is that they put so much pressure on ST units that any kind of a mess up is 1 strike and you're out..

[AppStRavenfan]

3 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

its about holding on to the football. btw hester has fumbled before..so if he fumbles he gets cut? the problem with this organization is that they put so much pressure on ST units that any kind of a mess up is 1 strike and you're out..

Every return man has fumbled, the entire reason we got Jacoby was because of a fumble in the playoffs - and we all know how bad he turned out for us....oh wait

[GrimCoconut]

6 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

its about holding on to the football. btw hester has fumbled before..so if he fumbles he gets cut? the problem with this organization is that they put so much pressure on ST units that any kind of a mess up is 1 strike and you're out..

Special teams is 1/3 of the game of football so it's actually significantly important because it affects the other two groups.  ST can set the offense and defense for success and yes, we place emphasis there but for good reason. Also, recently a few of our growth guys came from ST. Aiken, Graham, Levine, McClellan, Orr are all guys who made impact on ST and became more. You can go back to Ellerbe and McClain and many many more. 

Not everyone can return the football andit's way more to it than holding onto the football.  Vision, patience, intelligence, instincts, and speed are also factors involved.  Let's not kid ourselves on the importance of ST 

Edited September 4, 2016 by GrimCoconut
Correcting auto correct.

[Sami84]

Just now, AppStRavenfan said:

Every return man has fumbled, the entire reason we got Jacoby was because of a fumble in the playoffs - and we all know how bad he turned out for us....oh wait

 

lol..really? how old was jones when we signed him? 27? Hester is 34...can you tell me any 34 year old successful Kick returners?

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, AppStRavenfan said:

lol...really? I address a point you made about fumbling and you immediately sidestep, absolutely shocking that people around here call you a troll

no..my point is that just because something worked out in its most basic outline doesnt mean that whats at hand will make it work out now. If this signing was 4-5 years ago it would have been great..if it was 8 years ago it would have been epic.

 

now its just sad and will inevitably result in hester being cut..

[GrimCoconut]

I'm not sure about Hester either, but I get the move.  Gotta wait and see on this guy. It would've been great had we drafted local talent Stefan Diggs when half the forum wanted him and he was there a year ago.  Not sure why we didn't make that move to this day. 

As for your comment about our ST not looking good, I remember Rosburg saying the best ST players weren't playing ST this preseason. I think we wanted to give other guys a chance.  I suspect those best at ST will play it come 9/11. Guys like McClellan, Levine, etc. 

[ravensdan]

20 hours ago, -Truth- said:

How in the world was Sitton released? He's been a top flight guard for several seasons with no signs of slowing down. If we can afford him, he'd be at the top of my personal wishlist.

I wonder if there is some looming disciplinary action coming. Otherwise horrible move by the packers. 

[Edgar]

Why are we only signing PS guys from within? 

Any effort to grab another teams waived? Braverman (back with Chicago)offers most of what Campanaro offers.

 

[allblackraven]

10 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Why are we only signing PS guys from within? 

Any effort to grab another teams waived? Braverman (back with Chicago)offers most of what Campanaro offers.

 

We clearly are moving from Camp with Hester signing and Reynolds on PS. Additionally, why do you think all released players want to come to Baltimore and not sign with someone else? The team that signed them as UDFAs in a first place?

[Edgar]

Just now, allblackraven said:

We clearly are moving from Camp with Hester signing and Reynolds on PS. Additionally, why do you think all released players want to come to Baltimore and not sign with someone else? The team that signed them as UDFAs in a first place?

I don't think that. 

[balfan23]

4 hours ago, Sami84 said:

its about holding on to the football. btw hester has fumbled before..so if he fumbles he gets cut? the problem with this organization is that they put so much pressure on ST units that any kind of a mess up is 1 strike and you're out..

Yes - it is about holding on to the football. Muffed kicks lose games. They are only surpassed by pick 6s in their total devastation. You not only give the other team the ball, you give them 50 yards AND the ball. 

So, the reason guys on our roster have had troubles fielding punts is because of how unforgiving our staff is on game changing turnovers? Every move a player makes is pressure filled. Look around the league at other successful operations and I'm pretty sure there is little tolerance for muffing punts. 

I'm sure in Hester's lengthy career, he's fumbled the ball before. The one training camp I attended, I watched the drill for fielding punts. I'd say 1 of every 4 attempts to catch the punt was being muffed (Camp wasn't involved, because naturally he was hurt). I'd say we're looking for - if not perfection - an improvement in an area that needed improvement. 

[jazz1988]

4 hours ago, Sami84 said:

Why not chris moore? At the end of the day we could have given jeremy butler a spot but decided that a 33-34 year old past his prime returner was deemed more worthy. Ravens place too much emphasis on the past..

The Ravens have seen Chris Moore return kicks in training camp along with the other players. If the coaching staff had much faith in Moore and others then they wouldn't have  had interest in Devin Hester.

[sibelius]

7 hours ago, ALPHA said:

We won a SB with this FO right? I didnt imagine that?

 

Pretty sure we won two...in something like 17 years of existence. Not worth getting into it though the whining is just a cry for attention.

I would love to see a Corey Graham-like signing. Someone to really push Wright. I think Young supplants Powers and Elam does the same to Lewis when he comes back so I'm not too worried about those spots, but a quality CB2 or someone to force Wright to become that would be invaluable. I think we could definitely contend as it stands now, but solidifying that corner could make this team a nightmare for opponents on both sides of the ball. 

Edited September 4, 2016 by sibelius

[rmw10]

For those hoping, Sitton isn't happening.

 

[Sami84]

11 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

For those hoping, Sitton isn't happening.