Kamalei Correa - Is he meeting expectations?

[kjbmore]

Just wondering what people are thinking in relation to our 2nd pick - KC.

From what I've seen - Im assuming he doesnt start and heard some chatter he doesnt dress on Sundays

Could we have been better served targeting a CB or a different player with this pick - to help us NOW for 2016?

Could we have drafted a project LB in a latter round and actually drafted an impact starter?

Interested to hear peoples thoughts

[JoeyFlex5]

way too early to say this. i havent been able to watch the games from start to finish but when hes on the field i see him in the right place and i see him around the ball, he just isnt finishing, and as an edge rusher we knew when we took him that it would be a project. even on levines interception he almost made a hell of a play, he ran to the right with the flow of the play, read the crossing route and cut back, cut off the throwing lane for the TE taking away the easy throw, and then leaped like a cricket and came within probably an inch of a pass that was targeted for a receiver another 12-15 yards downfield. ive seen him flying around the field and constantly being near the action, he just isnt quite making the play. 

i still think hes gonna be a dog even though i am disappointed, i was expecting big things after all the talk of him in TC. i am far from writing him off as should everyone else be.

[wizard1]

Especially when we could have had Tyler Boyd who would have settled our KO and punt return problems and at the same time would have given us a reliable #2  behind Kamar Aiken who is our real # 1.

Edited August 28, 2016 by wizard1

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I'm upset that this is a thing. Way too early smh

[wizard1]

Are you kidding ? it is a thing. It goes to another wasted draft pick. Do I need to name them all.? It is a thing!!

[JoeyFlex5]

40 minutes ago, wizard1 said:

Are you kidding ? it is a thing. It goes to another wasted draft pick. Do I need to name them all.? It is a thing!!

just like stanley was a wasted pick and we only need 3 weeks to determine that... youre sounding like danny d right now

[kjbmore]

my question looks more at immediate impact - should we be looking for a 2nd round pick to be starting and contributing, particularly given that we were drafting so high in the 2nd, prior to the draft De'Costa was talking up essentially having 2 First round picks because we were picking so high in the 2nd

I personally would imagine that who ever we drafted comes in and contributes immediately and is challenging for a starting spot - if we were picking in the late 50's & 60's then not so much

still early days but just interested to see what others are thinking of KC after a few preseason games -

His performance  might also bear a little more weight when our 3rd pick is out for the season, would hate to think we may only get a meaningful contribution from 1 of our top 3 picks this season - especially given they were so high in the draft

 

Edited August 28, 2016 by kjbmore

[kjbmore]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

way too early to say this. i havent been able to watch the games from start to finish but when hes on the field i see him in the right place and i see him around the ball, he just isnt finishing, and as an edge rusher we knew when we took him that it would be a project. even on levines interception he almost made a hell of a play, he ran to the right with the flow of the play, read the crossing route and cut back, cut off the throwing lane for the TE taking away the easy throw, and then leaped like a cricket and came within probably an inch of a pass that was targeted for a receiver another 12-15 yards downfield. ive seen him flying around the field and constantly being near the action, he just isnt quite making the play. 

i still think hes gonna be a dog even though i am disappointed, i was expecting big things after all the talk of him in TC. i am far from writing him off as should everyone else be.

should we be drafting projects that high in the second rd

[JoeyFlex5]

1 minute ago, kjbmore said:

should we be drafting projects that high in the second rd

first of all, it happens all the time, 2nd round is usually either for guys with character concerns, lower ceilings, or project players. second, only one facet of his game is a project, as far as playing linebacker goes the kid is far from a project, hes a natural football player and a hell of an athlete, the game just hasnt slowed all the way down for him yet, give it time before you call the kid a bust.

i mean really, take a breather and think about it... he has played THREE PRESEASON GAMES. thats it. and hasnt been bad in those outings either, and youre already calling him a bust because he isnt lighting up the stat sheet? meanwhile we have guys like terrence brooks going into his 3rd year and has been a total bonehead everytime he takes the field and people are just now saying he needs to go, the problem is still this... everyone wanted spence or jack in the 2nd round, we didnt get either of them, KC automatically becomes public enemy #1. 

 

[kjbmore]

not calling him a bust - just interested to see what everybody else thinks of him and whether or not they are happy with the pick / his performance going into the 2016 season

particularly when we were a 5 - 11 side, seemingly had quite a few holes, dare i say - still do, particularly on the defensive side and our 2nd round pick, a defensive player - doesnt project to start

[mc_red23]

Some fans are embarrassing. Calling people busts after just a few pre-season games? Hope he shuts you up soon enough. 

[Tru11]

I remember him setting the edge well on 1 play.

Only knew it was him as the commentators mentioned it lel.

Besides i cant remember him doing anything in particular the past 3 games.

Still to early to rush with a judgement though but im really hoping it wasent all hype.....

[JoeyFlex5]

56 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

I remember him setting the edge well on 1 play.

Only knew it was him as the commentators mentioned it lel.

Besides i cant remember him doing anything in particular the past 3 games.

Still to early to rush with a judgement though but im really hoping it wasent all hype.....

honestly he hasnt been that bad. like ive said before you can see him involved in a lot of stuff and he always seems to be around the action, he just isnt the first one there and so he isnt the one making the plays. i really think once the game slows down for him mentally he is gonna be a really good off-the-ball linebacker.

[Tru11]

25 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

honestly he hasnt been that bad. like ive said before you can see him involved in a lot of stuff and he always seems to be around the action, he just isnt the first one there and so he isnt the one making the plays. i really think once the game slows down for him mentally he is gonna be a really good off-the-ball linebacker.

same was said about a.brown back then lol

[KBoum]

Correa isn't being used the right way lets face it. He's no 3-4 OLB right now at 240ish.-250 maybe

 

Gotta shift the DE outside the OT in front of Correa so Correa has to face the TE/RBs. Gonna use him a bit like Timmons imo

[GrimCoconut]

Torrey Smith also looked like a bust in preseason. We'll have to see. Tandon Doss looked worlds better and we know how that worked. Some guys are just better in real games and get it sooner.  

[JoeyFlex5]

18 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

same was said about a.brown back then lol

arthur brown is different, its obvious when you watch him play that his heart just isnt in it, he really lacks any kind of passion for football and could care less whether or not he makes an impact. at least correa shows an intensity and shows that he wants to be something in this league, you know at the bare minimum you get a really high motor and high intesity guy with correa, art brown never had that going for him

[Cillmatic]

So your logic is, 2nd round pick doesn't shine in his first three preseason games, therefore he is a wasted pick.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Cillmatic

[Tru11]

21 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

arthur brown is different, its obvious when you watch him play that his heart just isnt in it, he really lacks any kind of passion for football and could care less whether or not he makes an impact. at least correa shows an intensity and shows that he wants to be something in this league, you know at the bare minimum you get a really high motor and high intesity guy with correa, art brown never had that going for him

brown wasent that bad in his rookie season for the limited snaps that he played.

how quickly people forget.....

[BmoreBird22]

I would have rather had Michael Thomas, Mackensie Alexander, or Myles Jack. Also, I think the Ravens were targeting Kevin Dodd.

However, it's three preseason games in. I'm just happy he's out there giving effort on every single play. The rest will come to him with time.

[rmcjacket23]

Embarrassing thread for the fanbase.

[Tru11]

8 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I would have rather had Michael Thomas, Mackensie Alexander, or Myles Jack. Also, I think the Ravens were targeting Kevin Dodd.

However, it's three preseason games in. I'm just happy he's out there giving effort on every single play. The rest will come to him with time.

pretty much this

[Edgar]

If he doesn't make the field in 2016 it is most certainly a disappointment.

 

[kjbmore]

What's embarrassing about it - simply asking for feedback on a players outlook and contribution.

are we not allowed to discuss players performance, what we expect from them, discuss draft picks once we've seen some game footage 

wverybody talking Stanley, Dixon, Reynolds, Moore, just wanted to see what people are thinking on KC

or do I have to wait til his careers over before we can discuss?? It's a forum, you chat about stuff, 2nd round draft picks after 3 preseason games should be a relevant topic

Edited August 28, 2016 by kjbmore

[JoeyFlex5]

45 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I would have rather had Michael Thomas, Mackensie Alexander, or Myles Jack. Also, I think the Ravens were targeting Kevin Dodd.

However, it's three preseason games in. I'm just happy he's out there giving effort on every single play. The rest will come to him with time.

For sure there were plenty of prospects that probably would be better, but it hasn't played out yet. I wanted Kevin dodd really bad. That was my guy, I was pretty crushed when Tennessee took him because I was just certain that if dodd fell past Cleveland that he was ours.

Can't say I would've preferred any of those others though, Ilike Michael Thomas but I don't love him for this team(I've grown to appreciate just how well speed works with our qb), Alexander has shown just about as much as correa save for one interception, and Myles Jack was an injury concern and you can't blame the ravens for passing after last year. 

If I had to name a 2nd rounder I really wanted over correa, it's cravens, and he's looked good too. I also liked whitehair and spriggs quite a bit and our o line would be downright filthy with either of them. 

 

None of this makes correa a bad pick though... He hasn't made an impact but he's in the action, clear case of "Give it time"

[JoeyFlex5]

20 minutes ago, kjbmore said:

What's embarrassing about it - simply asking for feedback on a players outlook and contribution.

are we not allowed to discuss players performance, what we expect from them, discuss draft picks once we've seen some game footage 

wverybody talking Stanley, Dixon, Reynolds, Moore, just wanted to see what people are thinking on KC

or do I have to wait til his careers over before we can discuss?? It's a forum, you chat about stuff, 2nd round draft picks after 3 preseason games should be a relevant topic

It doesn't come off as a simple discussion when you title the thread "wasted 2nd round pick". It comes off as you implying that correa was a wasted pick, excuse us for that misunderstanding..

[kjbmore]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

It doesn't come off as a simple discussion when you title the thread "wasted 2nd round pick". It comes off as you implying that correa was a wasted pick, excuse us for that misunderstanding..

??? Marks imply it is a question - not a statement, thus asking for response to the question - do people agree, disagree, why, why not

but yeah, I get it

[scrock]

this topic is absurd

[Davesta]

6 hours ago, wizard1 said:

Especially when we could have had Tyler Boyd who would have settled our KO and punt return problems and at the same time would have given us a reliable #2  behind Kamar Aiken who is our real # 1.

I really wanted Boyd ?

[BmoreBird22]

35 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

For sure there were plenty of prospects that probably would be better, but it hasn't played out yet. I wanted Kevin dodd really bad. That was my guy, I was pretty crushed when Tennessee took him because I was just certain that if dodd fell past Cleveland that he was ours.

Can't say I would've preferred any of those others though, Ilike Michael Thomas but I don't love him for this team(I've grown to appreciate just how well speed works with our qb), Alexander has shown just about as much as correa save for one interception, and Myles Jack was an injury concern and you can't blame the ravens for passing after last year. 

If I had to name a 2nd rounder I really wanted over correa, it's cravens, and he's looked good too. I also liked whitehair and spriggs quite a bit and our o line would be downright filthy with either of them. 

 

None of this makes correa a bad pick though... He hasn't made an impact but he's in the action, clear case of "Give it time"

Michael Thomas was, in your and my opinion, the best receiver in the draft, but you wouldn't want that? He's an intermediate threat with precise route running. Given how infrequently Joe went down the field in PS3, Thomas would have been an excellent intermediate threat.

Alexander is fifth on the depth chart in Minnesota. It'd be more about adding depth for a team that has FA's failing to live up to expectations (Powers, Wright). I actually wanted Kendall Fuller more, but we're talking about the second round.

Myles Jack had injury concerns... five years dowm the road. Given the Ravens didn't re-sign Smith or Upshaw and will likely cut Brown, four good years of Jack is probably a pretty good investment.

Cravens has been the model of incosistency and it's been difficult to define a role for him in Washington

I'm all for giving Correa time, especially with Orr coming on very strong. I'm just pointing out players I would have rather had.