Official cut down to 75

[rossihunter2]

15 minutes ago, KBoum said:

Yeah I got the part but my point was.. why do it now ? They can easily get to 75 without waiving Elam. There's plenty of camp bodies to cut. They could wait and see how Elams recovery is doing and maybe try the move a bit later.

Suggests they already know the recovery time I guess

[Wildabeast88]

5 hours ago, Maryland said:

By waiving Elam, they can re-sign him later in the year. The risk is that you could potentially lose him to another team (I bet Teryl Austin would want him for the Lions), but the benefit is that you're not tying-up a a roster spot for a player who can't play for ~6 weeks, and you're not being forced into using your only IR-designated to return slot on him or simply lose him to IR for the season with no option to return. 

My question and potential problem would be if we gamble on cutting with an injury settlement and lose him it would also prevent us from a potential late round comp pick.

[Ravens4Real]

2 hours ago, KBoum said:

Yeah I got the part but my point was.. why do it now ? They can easily get to 75 without waiving Elam. There's plenty of camp bodies to cut. They could wait and see how Elams recovery is doing and maybe try the move a bit later.

I understand your thinking but they should already know his timeline for recovery.

That and the cut from 75 to 53 is the span of four days (tomorrow until Saturday). I don't think much will change regarding his injury in that time frame.

[Wildabeast88]

Probably my toughest decisions are on the defensive side of the ball. I think on offense we are mostly set the biggest question is the number of WRs. D-line  tough to gauge B Williams being safe with Davis I think is to early to get rid of in his 2nd year Jernigan is talented but you question his thinking sometimes Kaufusi is safe as a rookie but then do we keep Guy who has been solid and Urban who I like and looks like is getting a hang of blocking kicks and batting balls at the line. LB is tough with Suggs, Doom, Moseley, Smith,Correa, Judon, McClellan, Orr all as locks with Levine as a hybrid type player but ho else might stay do we hold Ochi for potential I think if we cut him he's getting picked up by someone else. Or Chris Carter who showed some blitzing potential or Arhur Brown as an additional ILB. At DB Smith, Wright, Weddle, Webb, Young, Davis as locks with Canady and a S Lewis or Brooks, being safe but I like Price and Wilson both, but what about Powers who is probably safe with his contract but has under performed. I am having a super hard time with this.

[rmw10]

 

[MiamiRaven55]

Suprised Paul Kruger just got waived. Crazy the amount of players that leave us and get paid but never succeed.

[rmcjacket23]

9 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

Probably the best solution for Arrington. Still gets paid.

[rmw10]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Probably the best solution for Arrington. Still gets paid.

Still gets paid and helps us out with the cap.  I'm sure Arrington realizes that his career is probably over, so take the year's salary.

[rmcjacket23]

Also will be interesting to see what they do with Dixon. I think he has to go on IR, but with other possible "return" guys like Elam possibly going on IR, I'm going to guess he redshirts this season.

I think we roll forward with Forsett, Allen and West at RB, and keep Dixon on IR all year. Solves the problem of having to carry 5 RBs (including Juice) and keeps Dixon off PS poaching risk.

Amazing how we kept discussing how difficulty the TE and RB situations were, and how we may have to carry 9 total among the two groups. And in a matter of about 2-3 hours, the problem seems to have been somewhat "solved" via injury.

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[Wildabeast88]

9 minutes ago, MiamiRaven55 said:

Suprised Paul Kruger just got waived. Crazy the amount of players that leave us and get paid but never succeed.

Always the case with most everyone that leaves us which is why I laugh at when so many people are up in arms over people leaving KO McPhee we are usually pretty good judges right player right price 

[redlobster]

8 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Also will be interesting to see what they do with Dixon. I think he has to go on IR, but with other possible "return" guys like Elam possibly going on IR, I'm going to guess he redshirts this season.

I think we roll forward with Forsett, Allen and West at RB, and keep Dixon on IR all year. Solves the problem of having to carry 5 RBs (including Juice) and keeps Dixon off PS poaching risk.

Dixon is way too talented to be on IR

[Willbacker]

1 hour ago, Wildabeast88 said:

My question and potential problem would be if we gamble on cutting with an injury settlement and lose him it would also prevent us from a potential late round comp pick.

He wont be one of the top 32.

18 minutes ago, MiamiRaven55 said:

Suprised Paul Kruger just got waived. Crazy the amount of players that leave us and get paid but never succeed.

Analytics. Guess that means get rid of anybody that makes money. They traded Mingo too.

8 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Also will be interesting to see what they do with Dixon. I think he has to go on IR, but with other possible "return" guys like Elam possibly going on IR, I'm going to guess he redshirts this season.

I think we roll forward with Forsett, Allen and West at RB, and keep Dixon on IR all year. Solves the problem of having to carry 5 RBs (including Juice) and keeps Dixon off PS poaching risk.

Amazing how we kept discussing how difficulty the TE and RB situations were, and how we may have to carry 9 total among the two groups. And in a matter of about 2-3 hours, the problem seems to have been somewhat "solved" via injury.

Is his injury that serious?

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, redlobster said:

Dixon is way too talented to be on IR

Dixon may be the guy you put on IR and designate him to return 6 weeks into the season when he is 100%. I know it said 4 weeks recovery but to make sure he is 100% you may want to wait until he is fully healthy.

[rossihunter2]

first 11 players have been dealt with -the roster is now down to 79

ben watson and arrington to ir

kavell conner, jarrell broxton, trevon coley, dobson collins, anthony fabiano, chuck jacobs, jerrod johnson, mario ojemudia and darius white have all been released

[rmcjacket23]

8 minutes ago, redlobster said:

Dixon is way too talented to be on IR

I wouldn't be so certain in year 1. 

Put it this way... if I'm designating him to return, he better be the starter and lead back when he comes back from injury. You've got a lot of depth at that position, and I didn't really see any of them separating from the pack at all, with maybe Allen taking a couple steps back.

[757RavensFan]

7 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Dixon may be the guy you put on IR and designate him to return 6 weeks into the season when he is 100%. I know it said 4 weeks recovery but to make sure he is 100% you may want to wait until he is fully healthy.

I thought IRDRT was 10 weeks? 

[rmcjacket23]

8 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

He wont be one of the top 32.

Analytics. Guess that means get rid of anybody that makes money. They traded Mingo too.

Is his injury that serious?

4-6 week recovery is the estimation. Don't think think he remains on the active roster for 2-3 games, most likely he goes to IR.

Only question is whether they bring him back off of it or not.

[rmcjacket23]

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Ravens terminate contract of veteran ILB Kavell Conner; and waive Jarell Broxton, Trevon Coley, Dobson Cllins, Anthony Fabiano, Chuck Jacobs

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, 757RavensFan said:

I thought IRDRT was 10 weeks? 

Whatever it is you would save a spot on the roster and you can potentially bring him back halfway in the season. It saves that roster spot for the weeks he is out which is desperately needed.

[rmcjacket23]

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Also waive QB Jerrod Johnson, OLB Mario Ojemudia and WR Darius White. Officially put Arrington and Watson on IR

[rmcjacket23]

4 more moves to be made before Tuesday afternoon.

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

4 more moves to be made before Tuesday afternoon.

Arthur Brown will be one of them I feel it...

[757RavensFan]

Did they already put Kaufusi on IR?

[rossihunter2]

4 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Arthur Brown will be one of them I feel it...

i imagine kaufusi and elam as well maybe?

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Did they already put Kaufusi on IR?

Not yet.

[ellicottraven]

24 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Also will be interesting to see what they do with Dixon. I think he has to go on IR, but with other possible "return" guys like Elam possibly going on IR, I'm going to guess he redshirts this season.

I think we roll forward with Forsett, Allen and West at RB, and keep Dixon on IR all year. Solves the problem of having to carry 5 RBs (including Juice) and keeps Dixon off PS poaching risk.

Amazing how we kept discussing how difficulty the TE and RB situations were, and how we may have to carry 9 total among the two groups. And in a matter of about 2-3 hours, the problem seems to have been somewhat "solved" via injury.

No at worst Dixon will be put on a PUP designation and will return after 6 weeks. Otherwise I see him being on the active roster regardless of him missing the first 4-5 weeks. He is just that valuable as was evidenced when he was running with the first team in the 3rd preseason game. I think at the time before the injury he was the #2 back behind Forsett with a chance to become the #1 as the season progressed.

[jazz1988]

4 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Did they already put Kaufusi on IR?

No

[redlobster]

Whats going on with Arrington ? I must have missed why he isn't an outright cut?

[rmw10]

Just now, redlobster said:

Whats going on with Arrington ? I must have missed why he isn't an outright cut?

He got a concussion a couple of games ago.  It probably worked out for the best for both parties.  Arrington gets his full salary and the Ravens don't have to eat the additional cap space it would have costed to cut him outright.

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, redlobster said:

Whats going on with Arrington ? I must have missed why he isn't an outright cut?

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