[News] Late For Work 8/26: Five Ravens In Jeopardy For First Round Of Cuts

[BR News]

Joey Bosa wants what Ronnie Stanley already got from Ravens. Keep your eye on rookie pass rusher Matt Judon Saturday. First chance to see what Benjamin Watson and Mike Wallace can do. Ravens' non-QB MVP: Terrell Suggs.

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[SUGGStobeDUMED]

So why not a phone call to the Chargers?

A 3rd round pick in 2017 for Bosa? Hell even a 2nd would be worth it. Put him with Suggs to learn to play and after Suggs leave successor steps right in.

[The Mom Gene]

So why not a phone call to the Chargers?

A 3rd round pick in 2017 for Bosa? Hell even a 2nd would be worth it. Put him with Suggs to learn to play and after Suggs leave successor steps right in.

The guy is good... no doubt. But I have to agree with Corry. I'm not sure I want the drama here either. The guy gets ejected from a championship game for doing stupid stuff??? Pretty sure Joey Bosa is all about Joey Bosa.

[jravens1313]

I love the TBT tweets. Especially Judon's. I expect both Judon, and Correa to see plenty of reps is pass rushing situations. This game is clearly about the Offense though. Flacco returns with the starters, including our new additions.

[whobilly]

The Chargers are stupid. NOT that stupid. With that being said maybe they would listen to trading for a teams #1 pick next year.

[trevorsteadman]

I wanted Bosa and I still would like to see him in purple and black. But I am so happy that the drama is not around the Ravens. Would be interesting if the Chargers traded him away. If you are okay with paying him upfront like we did with Stanley then I bet a team jumps on it. Still a risk because of some questionable things he has done recently but his talent is unquestionable.

[whobilly]

K Reynolds practice squad at best. The transition was to difficult.

[VermontRaven]

5 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I wanted Bosa and I still would like to see him in purple and black. But I am so happy that the drama is not around the Ravens. Would be interesting if the Chargers traded him away. If you are okay with paying him upfront like we did with Stanley then I bet a team jumps on it. Still a risk because of some questionable things he has done recently but his talent is unquestionable.

Bosa can't be traded now.  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/09/window-closes-on-potential-trade-of-joey-bosa-in-2016/

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, VermontRaven said:

Bosa can't be traded now.  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/09/window-closes-on-potential-trade-of-joey-bosa-in-2016/

Then I guess you hope he gets cut and the Ravens end up with him. Would be interesting to see a 1st rounder get cut then. Would go down as biggest draft bust in NFL history.

[martyknight@yahoo.com]

If Bosa takes his signing bonus all in this year he owes a gigantic tax bill April 15, 2017. He would be smarter to spread it out to 2018 and keep some of his money another year before the IRS and California get there crack at it.

[jboy19]

  5 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Bosa can't be traded now.  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/09/window-closes-on-potential-trade-of-joey-bosa-in-2016/

Then I guess you hope he gets cut and the Ravens end up with him. Would be interesting to see a 1st rounder get cut then. Would go down as biggest draft bust in NFL history.

I think we'd have to draft him next year if we wanted a shot at him. I don't think he can be released to go through waivers or anything like that since he hasn't signed.

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, martyknight@yahoo.com said:

If Bosa takes his signing bonus all in this year he owes a gigantic tax bill April 15, 2017. He would be smarter to spread it out to 2018 and keep some of his money another year before the IRS and California get there crack at it.

But party now save later. Ask Allen Iverson who now struggles to pay for a hamburger.

[MiamiRaven55]

25 minutes ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

So why not a phone call to the Chargers?

A 3rd round pick in 2017 for Bosa? Hell even a 2nd would be worth it. Put him with Suggs to learn to play and after Suggs leave successor steps right in.

I might be mistaken but I don't think the chargers can trade his rights as he wasn't signed by august 8th, again i might be wrong.

[The Mom Gene]

Trust me, if we can't afford Hester... we can't afford Bosa.

[hen826957]

Trust me, if we can't afford Hester... we can't afford Bosa.

We can afford Hester and we can definitely afford Bosa as well. The only way l see Bosa to end up a Raven unless they release him. I don't know a trade could be possible.

[hen826957]

It's looks like all the five Ravens in jeopardy will all get cut in my eyes. Really no reason to keep them they all haven't been contribute well with the Ravens. Arthur Brown might be the only one the has a chance to stay on the roster due to the depth of LB. We don't have that much depth there. 

Edited August 26, 2016 by hen826957

[A Fish Called Yanda]

  16 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

Trust me, if we can't afford Hester... we can't afford Bosa.

We can afford Hester and we can definitely afford Bosa as well. The only way l see Bosa to end up a Raven unless they release him. I don't know a trade could be possible.

The Chargers can't release him b/c he hasn't been signed. The only two options are the Chargers sign him (4 year + 1 year option contract) or he goes back into the draft next year.

[rmcjacket23]

Trust me, if we can't afford Hester... we can't afford Bosa.

Affording Hester isn't the problem. Just doesn't seem logical to pay a player solely to be a returner, and his impact probably doesn't exceed the cost of signing him compared to a replacement player.

We CERTAINLY have more than enough cap space to sign Bosa if we wanted to, but that's not an option anyway.

[rmcjacket23]

So why not a phone call to the Chargers?

A 3rd round pick in 2017 for Bosa? Hell even a 2nd would be worth it. Put him with Suggs to learn to play and after Suggs leave successor steps right in.

1. We can't trade for him.

2. Obviously the Chargers wouldn't dump him for anything more than a very high 1st round pick, since that's what he is.

[rmcjacket23]

Its an interesting case in negotiations.

On the one hand, I really don't understand the Chargers position. To me, it seems like there's a cash flow problem there, otherwise I don't see why not paying all of the signing bonus in the first season is a problem. It makes no difference from a cap perspective, so that's not the issue. Apparently this a common type of contract the Chargers agree to, though I don't really see the purpose.

On the other hand, Bosa is still haggling over offset language, which drafted players basically never get anymore.

[CTRaven5]

  46 minutes ago, martyknight@yahoo.com said:

If Bosa takes his signing bonus all in this year he owes a gigantic tax bill April 15, 2017. He would be smarter to spread it out to 2018 and keep some of his money another year before the IRS and California get there crack at it.

But party now save later. Ask Allen Iverson who now struggles to pay for a hamburger.

This is a very false claim that people make lol

[bioLarzen]

  1 hour ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

So why not a phone call to the Chargers?

A 3rd round pick in 2017 for Bosa? Hell even a 2nd would be worth it. Put him with Suggs to learn to play and after Suggs leave successor steps right in.

I might be mistaken but I don't think the chargers can trade his rights as he wasn't signed by august 8th, again i might be wrong.

Yep, they can't - after all, Bosa is not their employee yet. Until he signs, he can do two things: either give up his point and signs or he sits out.

[dirtybird66]

i'm not sure what this article means about wr CRIS MATHEWS,I looked at the depth chart yesterday and he's listed #2

[Darryls17]

  1 hour ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

So why not a phone call to the Chargers?

A 3rd round pick in 2017 for Bosa? Hell even a 2nd would be worth it. Put him with Suggs to learn to play and after Suggs leave successor steps right in.

The guy is good... no doubt. But I have to agree with Corry. I'm not sure I want the drama here either. The guy gets ejected from a championship game for doing stupid stuff??? Pretty sure Joey Bosa is all about Joey Bosa.

I agree that he has caused a lot of drama, but I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he realizes it's a chance he won't be able to do this for 15 plus years like some guys can. He just wants to be taken care of. Also, he hasn't done anything foul on the football field. He got ejected from that championship game on a questionable targeting penalty on the quarterback. Something that might result in a fine at best in the NFL.

[sami]

  1 hour ago, The Mom Gene said:

Trust me, if we can't afford Hester... we can't afford Bosa.

Affording Hester isn't the problem. Just doesn't seem logical to pay a player solely to be a returner, and his impact probably doesn't exceed the cost of signing him compared to a replacement player.

We CERTAINLY have more than enough cap space to sign Bosa if we wanted to, but that's not an option anyway.

We pay a player soley to he a long snapper, why not a returner. Im not saying I want Hester...im just sayin'.

[steelcityraven]

First 5 cuts

1. Chuck Jacobs WR
2. Stephen Houston RB
3. Matt Skura C
4. Tevon Coley DT
5. Kavel Coner -LB

I think there will be some big names cut but not right away. I think some of the big names are:

1. James Hurst T (I agree with the article)
2. Lorenzo Talifero RB (Kid can play but cant stay healthy)
3. Kyle Arrington CB (agree with article)
4. Julian Wilson CB (just too much in front of him)
5. Keenan Reynolds WR (maybe he will go to PS which I hope)

I do NOT think that these 5 guys will be cut (even though maybe they should)?

1. Arthur Brown ILB (He is improving- just really slow)
2. KLM (DL) (especially with the injury to Kafusi)
3. Pitta TE (even though he has been more injured then Camp)
4. Camp WR (we need a return guy too much)
5. Anthony Levine S (we like his size and versatility)

[sami]

I'm thinking Jarell Broxton (G), Carrington Byndom (CB), Trevon Coley (DT), Jerrod Johnson (QB) and Darius White (WR) all have a better chance of being the first 5 cut than theones listed above.

[hen826957]

1 hour ago, A Fish Called Yanda said:

1 hour ago, hen826957 said:

  1 hour ago, The Mom Gene said:

Trust me, if we can't afford Hester... we can't afford Bosa.

We can afford Hester and we can definitely afford Bosa as well. The only way l see Bosa to end up a Raven unless they release him. I don't know a trade could be possible.

The Chargers can't release him b/c he hasn't been signed. The only two options are the Chargers sign him (4 year + 1 year option contract) or he goes back into the draft next year.

Thanks for the correct info. ?

Edited August 26, 2016 by hen826957

[rmcjacket23]

21 minutes ago, sami said:

We pay a player soley to he a long snapper, why not a returner. Im not saying I want Hester...im just sayin'.

Because there's plenty of players who do more than just be a returner who can also return. And frankly, just as well. 

[fusuymada]

48 minutes ago, sami said:

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  1 hour ago, The Mom Gene said:

Trust me, if we can't afford Hester... we can't afford Bosa.

Affording Hester isn't the problem. Just doesn't seem logical to pay a player solely to be a returner, and his impact probably doesn't exceed the cost of signing him compared to a replacement player.

We CERTAINLY have more than enough cap space to sign Bosa if we wanted to, but that's not an option anyway.

We pay a player soley to he a long snapper, why not a returner. Im not saying I want Hester...im just sayin'.

That is a very good question. The short answer is that you are correct and if the teams have the available roster spots, they certainly can afford to have just a returner, if they choose. However, kicking is a far more important component of a game but at one point in time, teams didn't have dedicated kickers either but what team would think about using a TE to also be a kicker nowadays, no one. With the advent of the specialty kicker, which now are trying 60 yard field goals, the long snapper has become a critical component of snapper/holder/kicker combination that makes it possible for 60 yard kicks. In the Ravens case, because it appears there are going to be 4 RBs and 4 TEs on the roster, they just don't have the available spot for a returner solely.  I just don't think it has anything to do with money.

Edited August 26, 2016 by fusuymada
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