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[TheRavengers]

FOOTBALL IS BACK!! And I'm loving it!

[Ravensfansince03]

Nick Boyle is such a classy football player. Tough and protects his body. Swear I wish he hadn't of gotten that suspension.

Edited August 12, 2016 by Ravensfansince03

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

Nick Doyle is such a classy football player. Tough and protects his body. Swear I wish he hadn't of gotten that suspension.

Boyle*

[RaRaRavens]

Sorry, but I still can't see how Buck Allen was balling it out. He had one great play out of seven.

I'm sure he'll do much better in next games and in regular season, but to start off by saying "After watching not one, not two, but three young running backs ball out..." is just ludicrous.

If Allen's first performance is considered balling then I have some bad news, friend.

No dissing, all I'm trying to say is let the kid really perform in one of his next games with some crunching runs and similar catches, then you'll have real reason to say how he "ball out".

Edited August 12, 2016 by RaRaRavens
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[Ravensfansince03]

3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Boyle*

OH SNAPP My fault!! Lol. Its just been a long time since we've heard about this guy Lol. I mixed his name up

[trevorsteadman]

3 minutes ago, RaRaRavens said:

Sorry, but I still can't see how Buck Allen was balling it out. He had one great play out of seven.

I'm sure he'll do much better in next games and in regular season, but to start off by saying "After watching not one, not two, but three young running backs ball out..." is just ludicrous.

If Allen's first performance is considered balling then I have some bad news, friend.

No dissing, all I'm trying to say is let the kid really perform in one of his next games with some crunching runs and similar catches, then you'll have real reason to say how he "ball out".

I agree his play was mediocre in my eyes besides a couple of key blocks on some plays.. West and Dixon showed their athletic ability and it was so beautiful to watch West about to be tackled 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage and make 3 or 4 yards out of it. Those negative plays killed us last season and he dug us out of some potential big holes.

[bioLarzen]

"What Marc Trestman’s Gameplan Should Be This Year: Feed. Dem. Backs."

I'm not sure that would warrant having a 100M+ QB at helm.

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, bioLarzen said:

"What Marc Trestman’s Gameplan Should Be This Year: Feed. Dem. Backs."

I'm not sure that would warrant having a 100M+ QB at helm.

I agree and I think people aren't giving enough attention to the tight ends. Boyle, Waller, and Brown all made great plays and the players at the position were consistently open. It was a thing of beauty after seeing targets disappear last season. I think Flacco will have a bunch of intermediate threats with tight ends to overpower defenders. Also I can't wait to see Wallace play more than a couple snaps. I want to see Mallett fling the ball at him deep to open up the running game even more.

[stixfix69]

Some good, some bad, but this years rookie class looked very good for their first games, for the ones that played, and the play of last years class played like i expected them to, after getting a lot of snaps last year due to all the injuries....Very optimistic for this years team.....

[Minionhunter]

Loved when Brooks crushed that Carolina TE, that TE just wasn't right after that hit.

[fusuymada]

  26 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

"What Marc Trestman’s Gameplan Should Be This Year: Feed. Dem. Backs."

I'm not sure that would warrant having a 100M+ QB at helm.

I agree and I think people aren't giving enough attention to the tight ends. Boyle, Waller, and Brown all made great plays and the players at the position were consistently open. It was a thing of beauty after seeing targets disappear last season. I think Flacco will have a bunch of intermediate threats with tight ends to overpower defenders. Also I can't wait to see Wallace play more than a couple snaps. I want to see Mallett fling the ball at him deep to open up the running game even more.

Based on the proposed 53 man roster (listed in LFW yesterday), not one receiver of the 6 expected to be on the team played last night. Might be one reason we didn't throw downfield. The only WR I know who caught the ball was Butler. Waller is listed as a TE. I think Williams and Boyle, more TEs, caught some passes as well. Other than the backs I think those were the only few who caught the ball. I can't imagine with our "real" WRs out there we would run quite as much. So to say we don't need a 100+ million dollar QB, isn't taking into consideration that it was Mallett out there not Flacco, and certainly not taking into consideration who the opponent was. And are you going to run down by two TDs in the fourth quarter. Finally, if you saw Wallace play a couple snaps, thats amazing, he wasn't even suited up... .

[Minionhunter]

Could the Ravens possibly trade a TE or RB? I just wonder due to the logjam at those position groups. Maybe not TE right away, but so many teams are hurting at RB and TE that it makes me worried we will loose them to like Pittsburgh, esp. TE since they have like Jesse James and then their Fry Cook and grounds keeper backing him up with L. Green being unable to get on the field.

[ellicottraven]

We don't need to worry about punt returns because we have Webby and SSS to take care of it if need be. As for kick returns how many opportunities will we really have for kickoff returns? Put in one of the RBs for kick return duties. No need for a super specialist in either spots imo. Save the roster spot for depth on the offense or defense.

[stixfix69]

We don't need to worry about punt returns because we have Webby and SSS to take care of it if need be. As for kick returns how many opportunities will we really have for kickoff returns? Put in one of the RBs for kick return duties. No need for a super specialist in either spots imo. Save the roster spot for depth on the offense or defense.

A lot of teams PR/KR looked sloppy, i'm not worried about it, as it''s to be expected with a lot of guys trying to make a play knowing they get so few touches...I expect it to be cleaned up, and look better next week...

[Minionhunter]

  40 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

  42 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

"What Marc Trestman’s Gameplan Should Be This Year: Feed. Dem. Backs."

I'm not sure that would warrant having a 100M+ QB at helm.

I agree and I think people aren't giving enough attention to the tight ends. Boyle, Waller, and Brown all made great plays and the players at the position were consistently open. It was a thing of beauty after seeing targets disappear last season. I think Flacco will have a bunch of intermediate threats with tight ends to overpower defenders. Also I can't wait to see Wallace play more than a couple snaps. I want to see Mallett fling the ball at him deep to open up the running game even more.

Based on the proposed 53 man roster (listed in LFW yesterday), not one receiver of the 6 expected to be on the team played last night. Might be one reason we didn't throw downfield. The only WR I know who caught the ball was Butler. Waller is listed as a TE. I think Williams and Boyle, more TEs, caught some passes as well. Other than the backs I think those were the only few who caught the ball. I can't imagine with our "real" WRs out there we would run quite as much. So to say we don't need a 100+ million dollar QB, isn't taking into consideration that it was Mallett out there not Flacco, and certainly not taking into consideration who the opponent was. And are you going to run down by two TDs in the fourth quarter. Finally, if you saw Wallace play a couple snaps, thats amazing, he wasn't even suited up... .

Two things on the lack of deep balls. 1. The Ravens must have a plan to get the ball out of Joe's hands as quick as possible to leave him less exposed to big hits. 2. The Ravens are not going to give away any real deep ball routes and tactics in the pre-season or open camp practices. Doesn't mean they won't run a generic go route or two, but if they are planning something with them, don't expect to see it until the real games begin in September. I'm OK with them showing no cards until then, even though it would be exciting to watch right now.

[TheRavengers]

59 minutes ago, RaRaRavens said:

Sorry, but I still can't see how Buck Allen was balling it out. He had one great play out of seven.

I'm sure he'll do much better in next games and in regular season, but to start off by saying "After watching not one, not two, but three young running backs ball out..." is just ludicrous.

If Allen's first performance is considered balling then I have some bad news, friend.

No dissing, all I'm trying to say is let the kid really perform in one of his next games with some crunching runs and similar catches, then you'll have real reason to say how he "ball out".

Word. If anyone was balling it was both Dixon and West, both of whom should make the team if what we see continues. As for Allen I kinda wanna chalk that up as not doing a whole lot to avoid getting hurt in preseason, though you could say that about anybody.

[jravens1313]

Dixon looked like a legit talent last night making guys miss and running through tackles. He seemed more explosive/decisive behind the line picking his holes than the other backs.

PS: Not one mention of his play: Ronnie Stanley dominated last night at LT. In pass pro he didn't allow 1 pressure by his man. He won every run block except a weak effort on a backside run where the defender wasn't in the play and guys he blocked didn't register a single tackle. Incredible pull block to give West a gain of 8 yds on a sweep. Stanley had a crack down block where he buried a guy to the ground which helped a 1st down run. Once he locks in on a guy' it's over folks. We finally found our LT.

[JimmyBlack]

"What Marc Trestman’s Gameplan Should Be This Year: Feed. Dem. Backs."

I'm not sure that would warrant having a 100M+ QB at helm.

We have a challenge getting them all on the field, but the benefit of depth at the position is that it will keep their legs fresher during the grind of the season. Once we add Forsett to the mix, then we will see the 4-headed monster take off into the sky.

[rossihunter2]

i know its only preseason but its crazy that only 2 wide receivers made catches last night - no catches for clay, reynolds or jacobs

[billiejean]

Nick Boyle is such a classy football player. Tough and protects his body. Swear I wish he hadn't of gotten that suspension.

Another head scratching statement RFS03. How does hurdling a defender protect your body. That one of the most dangerous moves in the game. I know its an instinctive type of thing but there is no reason to do that. Especially in a pre season game.

[MiamiRaven55]

4 minutes ago, billiejean said:

Another head scratching statement RFS03. How does hurdling a defender protect your body. That one of the most dangerous moves in the game. I know its an instinctive type of thing but there is no reason to do that. Especially in a pre season game.

In addition to "Classy football player" to describe a 2 time PED suspended player

[billiejean]

We don't need to worry about punt returns because we have Webby and SSS to take care of it if need be. As for kick returns how many opportunities will we really have for kickoff returns? Put in one of the RBs for kick return duties. No need for a super specialist in either spots imo. Save the roster spot for depth on the offense or defense.

There is absolutely no scenario where putting Webby or SSS in there to return punts is a good idea. I am not sure what the heck Harbaugh was thinking last year. It is absolutely ridiculous. Another head scratching move.... drafting Keenan Reynolds. It really seems more like a PR stunt than anything else. He isn't going to make the final roster.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

So,
Are we saying feed the backs, because once again, we have no playmakers in the receiving corps?
I was not impressed with Trestmans use of the Big Recievers like Waller, throw the ball up high, so Waller or a TE can get it, not the 5'10" CB. Exploit the mismatches you have, dont throw these low balls, unless that was on Mallet

[Steve32]

Nick Boyle is such a classy football player. Tough and protects his body. Swear I wish he hadn't of gotten that suspension.

He's lucky the Ravens are patient with him, since his suspension is his 2nd offense. He was very sorry the first time and said he learned his lesson. Then he goes out and does it again!

[Maryland]

Surprised the author did not mention Willie Henry among the 4 stand-out defensive players last night. His effort was unreal. You don't usually see an interior lineman chase-down and make the tackle on a WR screen, as you did at the end of the 1st half. Plus he was bursting off the line and beating his man much of the night, blowing-up two running plays and assisting Judon with a sack.

Edited August 12, 2016 by Maryland

[sami]

Sorry, but I still can't see how Buck Allen was balling it out. He had one great play out of seven.

I'm sure he'll do much better in next games and in regular season, but to start off by saying "After watching not one, not two, but three young running backs ball out..." is just ludicrous.

If Allen's first performance is considered balling then I have some bad news, friend.

No dissing, all I'm trying to say is let the kid really perform in one of his next games with some crunching runs and similar catches, then you'll have real reason to say how he "ball out".

maybe cuz he was picking up his protection assignment, running any routes he may had correctly, and hitting the correct hole but it wasn't open.

[sami]

  7 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

"What Marc Trestman’s Gameplan Should Be This Year: Feed. Dem. Backs."

I'm not sure that would warrant having a 100M+ QB at helm.

I agree and I think people aren't giving enough attention to the tight ends. Boyle, Waller, and Brown all made great plays and the players at the position were consistently open. It was a thing of beauty after seeing targets disappear last season. I think Flacco will have a bunch of intermediate threats with tight ends to overpower defenders. Also I can't wait to see Wallace play more than a couple snaps. I want to see Mallett fling the ball at him deep to open up the running game even more.

lets not forget WR Butler. He had a really good game too.

[sami]

  5 hours ago, billiejean said:

Another head scratching statement RFS03. How does hurdling a defender protect your body. That one of the most dangerous moves in the game. I know its an instinctive type of thing but there is no reason to do that. Especially in a pre season game.

In addition to "Classy football player" to describe a 2 time PED suspended player

Poor Nicky cant get no love

[mearzunkies]

Sorry, but I still can't see how Buck Allen was balling it out. He had one great play out of seven.

I'm sure he'll do much better in next games and in regular season, but to start off by saying "After watching not one, not two, but three young running backs ball out..." is just ludicrous.

If Allen's first performance is considered balling then I have some bad news, friend.

No dissing, all I'm trying to say is let the kid really perform in one of his next games with some crunching runs and similar catches, then you'll have real reason to say how he "ball out".

I can definitely see your POV!