[News] Eisenberg: Ravens Training Camp Facts And Opinions

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Eric Weddle getting Ray Lewis-like treatment. Justin Forsett still has strong grip on starting role. Where are all the deep passes? Alex Lewis could be a starter by next year.

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[reddog54]

Has Perriman been on the field? Article indicates that he is injured again! When did this happen? I live in SOCAL and i don't have all of the information!

[JacktheRaven]

Has Perriman been on the field? Article indicates that he is injured again! When did this happen? I live in SOCAL and i don't have all of the information!

Perriman got injured during OTAs. A knee again. Could be back soon.

[eze17]

Yeah, I could see Alex Lewis becoming a starter. Guy is tough as nails. His stock dropped primarily because of his having served jail time after beating a dude up in a street fight. Be interesting to see how he plays Thursday if he's going to be starting at LT against the Panthers. And not to knock Lewis, but that's enough reason to sit Joe Cool out of this pre season game. Give him some reps in the 2nd and 3rd games, he's enough of a veteran that I don't see the need to force him into meaningless pre season games.

[stixfix69]

IMO, the deep ball shouldn't be a concern with so many WR's in camp, it's the route running that really matters, as in a game you might get 4-5 deep balls, but the mid range routes are the key to a solid passing game, we all know Joe can go deep, and we have seen Wallace run deep routes in camp....Moving the chains with completing those 3rd and 7's are key, and having guys who can run the deep route will open those mid range routes available, which we didn't have last year, and why teams played 8 in the box knowing we had no deep threat....

[bioLarzen]

These "This-or-that player will be a starter in the NFL" predictions should always be takent with a huge pich of salt. I remember John Harbaugh defending two of his players vehemently, saying they will be starters in the NFL: one David Reed and one Tandon Doss.

And then real life happened...

[bioLarzen]

I'm just wondering.. .what would be the benefits of Flacco taking the first series? Are those handful of pass attempts and handoffs really worth any kind of risk?

I would be happier to see him sit out as much of the pre-season as he reasonably can.

[January J]

Yeah I only want Flacco playing a few drives in maybe 2 games. Other than that its  not worth it whatsoever. Just throw him in there for a series or two  and let him sling a couple of deep balls to Wallace  and some underneath routes to Aiken just to give him a feel of bein in the pocket and call it a day.

[bioLarzen]

1 hour ago, reddog54 said:

Has Perriman been on the field? Article indicates that he is injured again! When did this happen? I live in SOCAL and i don't have all of the information!

This website and several others are quite useful to follow for Ravens-related info. I dunno if I'm allowed to mention other websites here, but the Russel Street Report and the Ravens Insider section of the Baltimore Sun are two good pages to follow for fresh and trustworthy news on the Ravens. And there's also Jeff Zrebiec's twitter page for fresh news.

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

I'm just wondering.. .what would be the benefits of Flacco taking the first series? Are those handful of pass attempts and handoffs really worth any kind of risk?

I would be happier to see him sit out as much of the pre-season as he reasonably can.

I agree it's just not worth it. Play in game 3 and min practice and just save the physical contact for the regular season.

[tbird]

Years ago, when I coached youth baseball, I used tennis balls and a tennis racquet for an outfield drill. I got some strange looks from the players the first time we did that. Never thought about using it for football drills, but I can see the value in it.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

These "This-or-that player will be a starter in the NFL" predictions should always be takent with a huge pich of salt. I remember John Harbaugh defending two of his players vehemently, saying they will be starters in the NFL: one David Reed and one Tandon Doss.

And then real life happened...

I say the same thing, that this is just PRACTICE and not real game time so it isn't apples to apples and I get downvoted like crazy. I get called out for saying guys aren't trying and trying to say the practice doesn't mean anything to anyone.

It means a lot. It is a great first step to be doing very well in practice. It is meaningful to a lot of the younger guys or vets coming in from a new team or back from injury to get back into football mode. But to say "So and so made a great play on an interception" and you find out that he was covering a WR that probably will be a first round cut and a QB that might be the 3rd QB at best should temper that excitement just a bit. Making a few big plays in practice does not mean you are going to light it up in the NFL.

[Fastynart]

I am sick and tired of hearing how great the deep threat will be with Perriman. The guy has yet to suit up and has proven nothing. Wallace is a proven commodity. HIm I believe in. Perriman, not so much.

[Guest]

Alex Lewis could be the starting Left tackle before this year is up.

Ball tracking skills can't be taught at this stage. These players have it or they don't.

[rossihunter2]

28 minutes ago, Danny D said:

Alex Lewis could be the starting Left tackle before this year is up.

Ball tracking skills can't be taught at this stage. These players have it or they don't.

You've seen something all 32 gms didn't see then? Somehow our 4th round tackle (having not played a snap) is better than our first round tackle (albeit he also hasnt played a snap) - there's a reason one was drafted higher

 

you may turn out to be right but when all the scouts of multiple different clubs agree I feel like I'm safer listening to their assessment than yours - if Alex Lewis starts a game this year it will either be at guard or Ronnie Stanley (or Rick Wagner) got injured

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

You've seen something all 32 gms didn't see then? Somehow our 4th round tackle (having not played a snap) is better than our first round tackle (albeit he also hasnt played a snap) - there's a reason one was drafted higher

 

you may turn out to be right but when all the scouts of multiple different clubs agree I feel like I'm safer listening to their assessment than yours - if Alex Lewis starts a game this year it will either be at guard or Ronnie Stanley (or Rick Wagner) got injured

What you're likely to find is that where a player is drafted isn't always an indicator of how he will stack up vs. NFL talent.  Additionally, when Alex Smith got some Left Tackle reps his awkwardness suddenly disappeared.   These Tackles are not naturals at Guard.

[rossihunter2]

1 minute ago, Danny D said:

What you're likely to find is that where a player is drafted isn't always an indicator of how he will stack up vs. NFL talent.  Additionally, when Alex Smith got some Left Tackle reps his awkwardness suddenly disappeared.   These Tackles are not naturals at Guard.

No of course not, but I don't know what you could have seen at this point that all 32 teams haven't so far - especially without a snap having taken place

unless you are somehow prophetic in which case you should be working in someone's front office already

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

No of course not, but I don't know what you could have seen at this point that all 32 teams haven't so far - especially without a snap having taken place

unless you are somehow prophetic in which case you should be working in someone's front office already

My problem isn't really with Ronnie Stanley. Drafting is done within spectrum of available players who vary from good to bad. I'm not saying I'd select good, what I'm saying is that predominately we have been drafting towards the bad end of that spectrum of available players.  I'm not the only one saying so, just the most vocal one here. But....its not just drafting.

Edited August 10, 2016 by Danny D