Ravens Projected Win-Loss Record 2016

[OUravensfan]

On August 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, usmccharles said:

I see a 7-9 to a 10-6 season.  Games can easily go one way or another as we know from last  year

I think so much hinges on what our defense looks like? Do they have the killer instinct and the ability to close out games?

Drive one of pre season was not good but it was also drive one of pre season.

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, OUravensfan said:

I think so much hinges on what our defense looks like? Do they have the killer instinct and the ability to close out games?

Drive one of pre season was not good but it was also drive one of pre season.

Our defense has seem to always give up leads late in games, hopefully with the offensive weapons we have this year we wont have to rely on them as much. 

[Dubs]

Never do this but wanna try...

VS BUF: W- Even if we have some rusty veteran players playing for the first time I think we win this, will be an ugly game I expect though.

@CLE: W- I will say win but I expect it to be on some last minute FG by Tucker. Will be hard to chime for Hue Jackson and RGIII with on week of game tape.

@JAX: W- First home game of the year, hype after two wins. I will say W.

VS OAK: L- I was so upset when we lost to the Raiders last year, now they may have our number. I think their WRs will really expose our secondary, and their pass rush may wreck havoc if they get up on us.

VS WAS: W- Think we play conservative on D, give up a lot of yards but physically wear them down. Think Stanely starts coming into his own around this time and has a great game against Kerrigan and Preston Smith

@NYG: L- I really like NYG. I think they have a rough start with all the new names, but should be getting it together by this time. Not sure we will have the pass rush to phase Eli and get some INTs

@NYJ: L- Very well rounded team. If we can't get our run game going this could be difficult

VS PIT: L- Bell should be healthy along with everyone else, giving them their chance to scoop one on us.

VS CLE: W- After a stretch of losses we cannot wait for this game to help break out of the slump.

@DAL: W- As good as their O can and will be I think we match up well

VS CIN: L- Lets be honest they have our number every year and its disheartening

VS MIA: W- I cannot see their OL holding up this year. Game will do well with what is there but we should have constant pressure and should be able to neutralize Suh and co. on the inside

@NE: L- If they loose a couple games with Jimmy, Brady will be playing with a vengeance 

VS PHI: W- At this point I expect their QB situation to be even murkier...probably will play against Chase Daniels who I think will give us fits but we win last minute

@PIT: W- Split with Pitty. They probably are sealed to make the playoffs we take advantage

@CIN: W- My homerism makes me give a W, and  a strong finish but I think it could be the opposite and Cincy gets into the playoffs and we don't..

10-6 overall...hot start/finish and terrible mid stretch. Think I am being generous and my more realistic would be a loss to Dallas and Cincy at end of year for an 8-8 record

[IGwheaties_man]

Optimistic Perspective:
VS BUF: W- It's vs. Rex at home. This one shouldn't be close, given their defensive injuries

@CLE: W- Ugly win. Think vs. DET in 2013 Expect Justin Tucker to be the game's MVP. All points come through his leg, and he nails the game winner. 

@JAX: L- Remember 2011?

VS OAK: W- Raiders don't do well with East Coast games. And it's home. Derek Carr is not beating us at home. 

VS WAS: W- It's home. Not even a close one. Smith v. Norman is the matchup of the game. 

@NYG: W- Ben McAdoo as a head coach hasn't convinced me that this team will be any type of dominate force, regardless of their offensive weapons. He's just an offensive coordinator who lucked into a head coaching job. Just like Tampa's new coach. Given Eli's history against us, we should take this one. Close game though. Eli- 2 tds, 3 picks

@NYJ: W- I like Fitz but he throws more Picks than tds in this one

VS PIT: W- We are not losing to Pittsburgh at home

VS CLE: W- Cleveland is not beating us at home 2 years in a row. 

@DAL: W- Romo most likely isn't playing this far into the season. Even if he is by some miracle, holes in the defense still tell me this is a win for us. 

VS CIN: L- We cannot beat Cinci. 

VS MIA: W- Finally the sunny boys come to cold Baltimore. This one won't even be close. 

@NE: L- Joe always brings it vs. New England, minus the 2013 game (in his defense, he was coming off a left knee injury after a dirty hit in Detroit) but we will not be beating them in New England. At least in the regular season.. Game is decided by 3 points. 

VS PHI: W- Their front 7 keeps our offense in check, but their sputtering offense loses them the game. 

@PIT: L- No way we sweep them two years in a row. 

@CIN: L- Still can't beat Cinci. 

11-5 optimistically 

Pessimistic Perspective:
VS BUF: L- Tyrod has a chip on his shoulder for how his tenure in Baltimore ended. That chip is administered by Rex, who has his own chip on his shoulder because of how his tenure ended in Baltimore in 2007. Flacco threw 5 picks against this defense. Rex and Rob are out to do their father justice this season. We haven't won a home opener since 2012

@CLE: L- They should've swept us last year. That's sad. Hue coached Flacco 09 & 2010. He should have some insider's knowledge into his tendencies, as if gametape isn't enough. Hue also made Andy Dalton into the beast he is today. 

@JAX: L- I'm buying into the hype. And I'm not forgetting 2011. Blake and the Allen bros are years older in the league and the defensive pieces are finally coming together for Gus Bradley

VS OAK: L- Kelechi Osemele.. 

VS WAS: L- Remember it was Kirk Cousins who won the game for Washington in 2012 after we knocked Bob out the game

@NYG: L- Their offense wears out our defense and we can't keep up

@NYJ: L- Their defense.. 

VS PIT: W- They will not beat us at home, no matter what 

VS CLE: W- Pessimism tells me the Browns sweep us this year but I can't see them beating us at home

@DAL: W- Romo is on IR at this point

VS CIN: L- We're not beating the cats, no matter what 

VS MIA: W- Miami is not beating us in Baltimore. 

@NE: L- Not even close 

VS PHI: W-  I'm highly convinced Philly can upset us in Philly, but I don't see any one of their 3 QBs beating us, no matter how many games we've lost up to this point. 

@PIT: L- Mike Wallace... And realistically, because of Mike Wallace, they probably sweep us this year. 

@CIN: L- Still not beating Cinci..
 
5-11 pessimistically. Last year convinced me to lean toward this perspective. 3-13 I'd you count me saying Pittsburgh and Cleveland sweep us

Realistically:
VS BUF: W- Rex could pull an upset potentially, due to the chip on his shoulder, as well as the chip on Tyrod's shoulder. Rex and Rob's father did pass in the off season, so they should be driven to do him justice. And Flacco did throw 5 picks against this defense in 2013. But that was in Buffalo. The home opener losses stop here. 

@CLE: L- Should've swept us last year. Bob is out for revenge after us taking him out in 2012. And Washington still won that game. 

@JAX: L- 2011.. And Blake Bortles. The Allen bros. And Gus Bradley's defense. And we don't do well in Jacksonville 

VS OAK: W- Carr still isn't beating us at home. 

VS WAS: W- They aren't beating us at home. 

@NYG: L- Giants probably win here. Due to OBJ and strictly OBJ. 

@NYJ: L- Fitz throws some picks but their defense locks us down. 

VS PIT: W- They aren't beating us at home. 

VS CLE: W- They aren't beating us at home two years in a row. 

@DAL: W- Romo is still on IR at this point in the season

VS CIN: L- We aren't beating them. 

VS MIA: W- They aren't beating us at home

@NE: L- We aren't beating them in the regular season. 

VS PHI: W- They aren't built to win. 

@PIT: L- Not sweeping them two years in a row. 

@CIN: L- We're already knocked out of contention at this point. And we still can't beat the Cats. 

Expect a 7-9 or 8-8 season. 9-7 and 10-6 are ceilings for this team. Still not enough to necessarily dictate a wild card spot at least, since the AFC will be crowded this year. We aren't taking the division. 11-5 and 12-4 are optimistic ceilings. 5-11 is a cellar. 3-13 is a pessimistic cellar. All I gotta say is I hope they prove me wrong.  

[RavensPunkXVX]

^^^ We don't beat Cinci in any of your scenarios?! I can see the reasoning. I think we split. The last time the Bengals beat us by two scores, 2013. The four after were 8 points or less. Ravens aren't getting walloped, the Bengals just somehow find a way to win. I think we'll find a way this year.

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm seeing so many people calling Jax a W and the raiders a L. How so? Jacksonville has a far superior roster and matches up to beat us maybe better than any team in the league. Oakland is riding a massive hype train because they're the raiders, but Jacksonville is downright scary when you look at their whole team

[RavensPunkXVX]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm seeing so many people calling Jax a W and the raiders a L. How so? Jacksonville has a far superior roster and matches up to beat us maybe better than any team in the league. Oakland is riding a massive hype train because they're the raiders, but Jacksonville is downright scary when you look at their whole team

I've just been saying we split those two. A loss against either Jax or Oak But I wouldn't be surprised if we lost both. They both have a pretty talented roster. 

[K-Dog]

48 minutes ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

^^^ We don't beat Cinci in any of your scenarios?! I can see the reasoning. I think we split. The last time the Bengals beat us by two scores, 2013. The four after were 8 points or less. Ravens aren't getting walloped, the Bengals just somehow find a way to win. I think we'll find a way this year.

I have us getting swept by Cincy as well.  I don't see us really being able to shut down A.J. without sacrificing something else.   They wont crush us.  No way. But tall speedy receivers, great running game, It is a very tall order for our defense. 

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

I've just been saying we split those two. A loss against either Jax or Oak But I wouldn't be surprised if we lost both. They both have a pretty talented roster. 

i think jacksonvilles talent is far superior though. if i had to compare each part of the team... 

qb: even 

rb: jax 

wr: jax 

ol: oak

te: oak

front seven: jax(fowler has been a total world beater in camp, myles jack, marks, jackson, odrick, smith, wow)

secondary: jax by a mile, ramsey and gipson could pay immediate dividends and oakland still has a dumpster fire back there 

 

jags OL is still a mess, which is a big deal, but overall i think theyre the far more talented team.

[OUravensfan]

3 hours ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

^^^ We don't beat Cinci in any of your scenarios?! I can see the reasoning. I think we split. The last time the Bengals beat us by two scores, 2013. The four after were 8 points or less. Ravens aren't getting walloped, the Bengals just somehow find a way to win. I think we'll find a way this year.

We're due some good bounces and good fortune, that Steve Smith play still makes me so angry, especially because I was there and live there. 

[RavensPunkXVX]

8 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

We're due some good bounces and good fortune, that Steve Smith play still makes me so angry, especially because I was there and live there. 

 

Yup. I live there as well and was also at that game. I took my brother who is a Bengals fan. That sucked the life out of him and the stadium, then... It happened.

[Corvus_corax]

I've gotta be honest, I don't like this Ravens team. We somehow seem to have ended up being a kind of team(on paper at least) that I never thought we would become under John Harbaugh. Harbs has always talked about old fashioned football values and I really like that about him. I also feel that is the winning formula for the Ravens. But we are moving away from that and appear to be becoming another generic modern NFL team who favours the pass and has a porous Defense.

On offense - I hate, hate, hate our co-ordinator. Not him personally but his play calling. I don't want an offensive co-ordinator who thinks pass first - run second. The fact that we led the league in pass attempts last season thoroughly depressed me and was not an insignificant reason as to why our season was a failure. RUN THE DAMN BALL.

On defense - *Sigh*. Our Defense is just plain bad. We have no depth on the defensive line, our pass rush is old and our secondary has the potential to be a hot mess again. It's all such a far cry from the heady days of Ngata, Lewis and Reed, when we had prime talent and leaders at all three levels of the Defense. Nobody fears our Defense anymore and neither they should. This desperately needs fixed. If we spent every pick in next year's draft on the Defense I would not complain at all. Having a gritty, hard nosed, mean, stingy Defense was our thing. Now it's not. I miss that about us.

 

I can see this being somewhere around a 7-9 season for us. We are a well coached team and we still have a few good pieces on our roster. The combination of those two things should see us scramble to somewhere around .500. I don't think this is a play-off team though and it is 100% not a Superbowl calibre team.

Sorry for the negativity before we've even reached Week 1 but that's just where I see this team as being at. We have much work to do.

Edited August 15, 2016 by Corvus_corax

[Dubs]

12 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i think jacksonvilles talent is far superior though. if i had to compare each part of the team... 

qb: even 

rb: jax 

wr: jax 

ol: oak

te: oak

front seven: jax(fowler has been a total world beater in camp, myles jack, marks, jackson, odrick, smith, wow)

secondary: jax by a mile, ramsey and gipson could pay immediate dividends and oakland still has a dumpster fire back there 

 

jags OL is still a mess, which is a big deal, but overall i think theyre the far more talented team.

I agree they may be more talented but Jax may have a bigger hurdle to climb in regard to changing what is and has been a perennial loosing culture. I don't think that should be underestimated. Oakland began that process last year and the confidence that comes from not being a perennial cellar dweller is huge imo. On that note though, Jax has a good chance to beat us, and a good chance at playoffs

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, Dubs said:

I agree they may be more talented but Jax may have a bigger hurdle to climb in regard to changing what is and has been a perennial loosing culture. I don't think that should be underestimated. Oakland began that process last year and the confidence that comes from not being a perennial cellar dweller is huge imo. On that note though, Jax has a good chance to beat us, and a good chance at playoffs

I think the whole losing culture thing is overblown, it was overblown last year for us when talking about trying out younger guys and resting veterans, and I think its overblown talking about the jags. Being in a weak division, having a smart coach with a defensive bullyish mentality, and an identity to build on, sounds like the perfect storm to completely throw that losing culture out the window.

Cleveland for inatance, the losing culture is because they can't field enough talent to win, it's not that the team is just cursed with bad play. Arizona, seattle, KC, detroit, minnesota, Houston, the skins, cinci, all teams who have rather quickly turned around a horrible losing culture in the past 5 years or so in basically no time at all, by just adding a qb and/or coach they went from cellar dwellers and laughing stocks to annual playoff contenders with each of them having their own hype trains. 

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

It's hard predicting games past 1 or 2 weeks out because team health is an unpredictable thing,but I'll play. 

Week 1 -  W Dating back to 2012 when we first hired Pees,we havent done well vs any mobile QB we've faced,but I have a hard time believing Tyrod will be able do keep up with what Flacco can do at home.I think we win by atleast 10.

Week 2 - W Same problem with the Mobile QB,but the browns secondary looks beatable.I see us winning this game by atleast 10 also.

Week 3 -  W Last year Bortles did well vs almost every defense but ours.He's still young and doesn't seem to have defenses completely figured out.I think we win a close game by a field goal or two like we should have last year if not for the refs screwing that last play up.

Week 4 - W I think we would've won this game last year if we had Suggs.We should be able to keep them from scoring 30+ on us with our defensive captain healthy and I don't see us losing at home to any west coast team outside of Seattle.I think we'll win a close game,but at the same time it will be alot more decisive than the Jax game from the week before.

Week 5 - L Trap game.Under John Harbaugh we've had plenty of 4 game win streaks,but only had a win streak longer than 4 games once.I think we struggle to cover the redskins' dangerous weapons on the outside and I think Jordan Reed does damage against us.

Week 6 - W I don't see the offense having it's best day this game.The giants defense beefed up this off season and the game is on the road.However,even with that I see Eli making more mistakes than Joe because we'll have the pass rush to bring that turnover happy side out of him.

Week 7 - L Revis and company shuts down our offense,Marshall and company bends and frequently breaks our defense,the team is already looking forward to the bye week and the game after and we lose.

Bye

Week 9 - W Harbaugh already out coaches Tomlin as is.With both teams having a bye week to rest and prepare for this game,I think it'll come down to home field advantage and Harbaugh having our squad more prepared.

Week 10 - W Sweep.The browns won't be good this year.

Week 11 - W/L We either win or lose in a shoot out or this is our one blow out of the year.I can't decide.

Week 12 - W Our games vs Cincy usually come down to who wants it bad enough.This time around we'll want it more than Aj Green.

Week 13 - W I don't believe in Tannehill,we usually kick Miami's butt anyway and this is at home.

Week 14 - L If it was at home I'd give us a shot but.....

Week 15 - W The eagles were almost dead last in run defense last year.I don't think they'll be near last two years in a row but they'll still be bad enough for us to pound them.On the other side of the ball theres a good chance we'll be facing a rookie QB.

Week 16 & 17 - The last time we played both of these teams in consecutive games on the road in 2014 we lost both.This time I think we'll steal one but there's also a chance we could lose both.

 

At best I have us being 12-4 and at worst I think were 10-6.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

On 8/14/2016 at 10:42 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

i think jacksonvilles talent is far superior though. if i had to compare each part of the team... 

qb: even 

rb: jax 

wr: jax 

ol: oak

te: oak

front seven: jax(fowler has been a total world beater in camp, myles jack, marks, jackson, odrick, smith, wow)

secondary: jax by a mile, ramsey and gipson could pay immediate dividends and oakland still has a dumpster fire back there 

 

jags OL is still a mess, which is a big deal, but overall i think theyre the far more talented team.

I wouldnt call Oak's secondary a dumpster fire. Amerson was near lock down last year, and add now Sean Smith so DJ Hayden will be relegated to 3rd or 4th outside... maybe finds a niche with his athleticism in the nickel.

And then Reggie Nelson should keep things steady with Woodson moving on while Joseph has upside. I like him a lot. And then Nate Allen isnt special, but a solid 3rd guy. And I always like Trawick. Not great on D, but hes alright.

Basically it comes down to Amerson replicating last year. If he does, and Joseph just has a decent rookie year i think its actually a good secondary. Sean Smith + Amerson of last year is probably one of the better CB duos in the league. And Nelson has continued to play at a very high level.

 

But, I agree with your overall point. I had us losing to Jax and beating Oak... especially since Oakland doesnt travel well to the east coast at all.

[FerrariFan87]

10-6; Split with Pitt and Cincy. Sweep Cleveland.

6-2 at Home; 4-4 on the Road.

[Edgar]

On 8/14/2016 at 10:38 AM, usmccharles said:

Shouldn't sleep on the Bills, they are a good team. 

Yea but a good team beats them at home on opening day. Besides, it looks like it just got a little easier.

[rmcjacket23]

On 8/14/2016 at 10:38 AM, usmccharles said:

Shouldn't sleep on the Bills, they are a good team. 

Ehh, maybe. On paper they have some talent, but generally not a fan of their offense at all and they are quickly becoming crippled on defense.

Their top two picks from this draft may not play at all this season, Marcell Dareus just got suspended for four games, and they've got another significant injuries.

I think they'll be competing with Miami for the bottom of that division. Wouldn't surprise me if they only win 5-6 games this year.

[rmcjacket23]

On 8/15/2016 at 8:46 AM, Corvus_corax said:

I've gotta be honest, I don't like this Ravens team. We somehow seem to have ended up being a kind of team(on paper at least) that I never thought we would become under John Harbaugh. Harbs has always talked about old fashioned football values and I really like that about him. I also feel that is the winning formula for the Ravens. But we are moving away from that and appear to be becoming another generic modern NFL team who favours the pass and has a porous Defense.

On offense - I hate, hate, hate our co-ordinator. Not him personally but his play calling. I don't want an offensive co-ordinator who thinks pass first - run second. The fact that we led the league in pass attempts last season thoroughly depressed me and was not an insignificant reason as to why our season was a failure. RUN THE DAMN BALL.

On defense - *Sigh*. Our Defense is just plain bad. We have no depth on the defensive line, our pass rush is old and our secondary has the potential to be a hot mess again. It's all such a far cry from the heady days of Ngata, Lewis and Reed, when we had prime talent and leaders at all three levels of the Defense. Nobody fears our Defense anymore and neither they should. This desperately needs fixed. If we spent every pick in next year's draft on the Defense I would not complain at all. Having a gritty, hard nosed, mean, stingy Defense was our thing. Now it's not. I miss that about us.

 

I can see this being somewhere around a 7-9 season for us. We are a well coached team and we still have a few good pieces on our roster. The combination of those two things should see us scramble to somewhere around .500. I don't think this is a play-off team though and it is 100% not a Superbowl calibre team.

Sorry for the negativity before we've even reached Week 1 but that's just where I see this team as being at. We have much work to do.

1. You need to adapt the formula, because the formula we used 10 years ago to win isn't a formula that can win long term in this league. I get that fans look at last years Broncos team and say "o well all you need is a great defense and you can win", and yeah, that's true. Except the problem is that you need to create a defense like that continuously, which isn't sustainable in the modern NFL (as the Broncos are about to show you, and as the Seahawks have already shown you).

2. The moment we gave Joe a large contract in 2012, fans immediately should have gotten on board with the fact that its a QB driven offense and that we will live and die by his play. The longer fans ignore this or spend time dreaming of what was instead of what is and what is going to be is going to be a problem ONLY for those fans, not for the Ravens. In general, there's two types of team in the league right now... teams that have a franchise QB and win games consistently, and teams that don't.

3. I'm not a huge Trestman fan either, though I think he gets a bit of bad press. However, you also have to take into account game flow and score when you factor in how often we pass vs run. In games that we are down in the 4th quarter or are even getting blown out of (there were several of these last season), running the ball simply isn't going to work that well.

If you look at the pass/run ratio of all the NFL, there's only four NFL teams last season that ran the ball more than they threw it (Bills, Panthers, Vikings, Seahawks), and three of them had elite defenses (not a coincidence).

There were 12 teams who threw the ball at least 60% of the time, and of those, only two teams on that list made the playoffs (Steelers and Patriots). Conventional wisdom would say that its not a good approach, except again, it doesn't take into account the scoreboard and game flow. There's a lot of teams in that 60% category who finished with poor records, generally reflective of poor defensive play as well. Of the 12 teams who threw the ball 60% of the time, 10 of them finished in the bottom half of the league in total defense. Only the Ravens and Patriots finished in the top half.

4. Its great to spend a bunch of picks on defense, except one draft was never going to fix the problem. Every realistic fan should expect this to be at least a 2-3 year project to rebuild the defense, and its unreasonable to think it would happen sooner that.

[xxhighriser]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. You need to adapt the formula, because the formula we used 10 years ago to win isn't a formula that can win long term in this league. I get that fans look at last years Broncos team and say "o well all you need is a great defense and you can win", and yeah, that's true. Except the problem is that you need to create a defense like that continuously, which isn't sustainable in the modern NFL (as the Broncos are about to show you, and as the Seahawks have already shown you).

2. The moment we gave Joe a large contract in 2012, fans immediately should have gotten on board with the fact that its a QB driven offense and that we will live and die by his play. The longer fans ignore this or spend time dreaming of what was instead of what is and what is going to be is going to be a problem ONLY for those fans, not for the Ravens. In general, there's two types of team in the league right now... teams that have a franchise QB and win games consistently, and teams that don't.

3. I'm not a huge Trestman fan either, though I think he gets a bit of bad press. However, you also have to take into account game flow and score when you factor in how often we pass vs run. In games that we are down in the 4th quarter or are even getting blown out of (there were several of these last season), running the ball simply isn't going to work that well.

If you look at the pass/run ratio of all the NFL, there's only four NFL teams last season that ran the ball more than they threw it (Bills, Panthers, Vikings, Seahawks), and three of them had elite defenses (not a coincidence).

There were 12 teams who threw the ball at least 60% of the time, and of those, only two teams on that list made the playoffs (Steelers and Patriots). Conventional wisdom would say that its not a good approach, except again, it doesn't take into account the scoreboard and game flow. There's a lot of teams in that 60% category who finished with poor records, generally reflective of poor defensive play as well. Of the 12 teams who threw the ball 60% of the time, 10 of them finished in the bottom half of the league in total defense. Only the Ravens and Patriots finished in the top half.

4. Its great to spend a bunch of picks on defense, except one draft was never going to fix the problem. Every realistic fan should expect this to be at least a 2-3 year project to rebuild the defense, and its unreasonable to think it would happen sooner that.

Great post.  The league is changing, if anything we were one of the last teams to try and adapt. That's why we're behind at the moment.

Edited August 16, 2016 by xxhighriser

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Ehh, maybe. On paper they have some talent, but generally not a fan of their offense at all and they are quickly becoming crippled on defense.

Their top two picks from this draft may not play at all this season, Marcell Dareus just got suspended for four games, and they've got another significant injuries.

I think they'll be competing with Miami for the bottom of that division. Wouldn't surprise me if they only win 5-6 games this year.

Well,  I agree.... Now.   Crazy how two days can change so much.   Tyrod,  Mccoy,  Watkins are gonna have to come up big.  But that's also assuming we are just back to healthy,  let alone good.   

[JoeyFlex5]

16 minutes ago, xxhighriser said:

Great post.  The league is changing, if anything we were one of the last teams to try and adapt. That's why we're behind at the moment.

Dunno why this got negged. Its true

[usmccharles]

14 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

And that is why I praise him when he does well and smoke him when he plays like trash.  Offensively, everything rises and falls on him!  I'm truly hoping that his game play trends upward this season.

 

As we all should.  But people also need to realize,  Joe is not a 40td 5k yards guy, maybe if we built our team that way, he could be.  The hate on Joe is insane,  clearly he can be better and we all want that... But we have to be realistic on who/what Joe is,  and he's not Rodgers,  Brady,  Manning.  I'll get negged for this,  he's a better Tony Romo when it matters,  not the stat sheet

Edited August 16, 2016 by usmccharles

[A Fish Called Yanda]

I hate everything about these threads lol.  I think last year I said 10 - 6?  Never guessing again.

[K-Dog]

1 hour ago, A Fish Called Yanda said:

I hate everything about these threads lol.  I think last year I said 10 - 6?  Never guessing again.

I think we all were pretty well shocked.

 

Well, 'cept for that one guy....

[Edgar]

If Joe is somehow more consistent and the offense has rhythm early, this team will be tough to beat.

 

[bravensfan52]

8-8

[Halshayeji]

On August 7, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Inqui said:

If I'm going to be unbiased, my picks would be:

Buffalo - win
Cleveland - win
Jacksonville - win
Oakland - win
Washington - win
NYG - win
NYJ - win
Pittsburgh - win
Cleveland - win
Dallas - win
Cincy - win
Miami - win
New Ingerlund - win
Philly - win
Pittsburgh - win
Cincy - win

#nohomer

Unfortunately some people don't get sarcasm at its best lol

You my friend won the internet until we lose our first game

[FlocksGottaFeed]

19 hours ago, A Fish Called Yanda said:

I hate everything about these threads lol.  I think last year I said 10 - 6?  Never guessing again.

Agreed. Seasons are becoming more and more of a 'roll of the dice' when injuries, bad officiating, etc rule the day. After last year I'm officially out of the record prediction business. That said, I'm still comfortable saying (regardless of final record) we'll see better overall team play this season.