TE trades

[Wildabeast88]

Well Detroit has now lost their top 2TEs for the year and another on PUP as loaded as we are what do you think of trading one of our TEs and who would you trade. For me it's tough I feel Maxx would be off limits if we get the old Pitta like he is showing I wouldn't trade him so that would leave Watson and Gillmore   assuming no one old trade for Boyle 10 games suspension nd Waller 4 some suspension. I think Crockett is awesome but the injuries make you  wonder and I doubt trading Watson would happen an older TE like he is.

[52liveforever]

Pending they all make it through preseason with no injuries I'd say Ozzie will definitely be listening to calls.

[usmccharles]

If Crockett and Max stay healthy, I wouldn't mind trading Watson and saving some of that money, I just wasn't a fan of the sign but I understood it at the time.  Id rather keep the young guys on their cheap deals assuming they are producing, also I would think Watson would be the most appealing to them. 

[ellicottraven]

We'll see as training camp progresses how we look. I don't think we make the trade unless the Lions call us with a really good offer.

[Jacquouille]

Well if they give us a 6th round for Waller I'm all in.

Doubt it though...

[Wildabeast88]

I was thinking if they wanted a veteran Watson but what about Crockett. Max is staying put and with Pitta Watson Waller after 4 games Boyle was solid last year and even Daniel Brown I think once he learns a little more could be a good TE I just think we could get the most for Gilmore plus all the injuries is a bit concerning.  

[GrimCoconut]

It depends on whether you're including the likelihood a player will be traded in this assessment. Since we just signed Watson, I'd bet he sticks around. Williams is certainly off limits since we just invested a 2nd round pick into him. Since Boyle is suspended for 10 games,  I highly doubt anyone would call for him. Same goes for Waller, who has multiple things against him: unproven at new position and suspended 4 games. That leaves Pitta, who's coming off multiple injuries, older,  with more money owed to him. 

I think Pitta would be the likelier one to be moved. Not sure we move any of them,  though. 

[GrimCoconut]

9 minutes ago, Wildabeast88 said:

I was thinking if they wanted a veteran Watson but what about Crockett. Max is staying put and with Pitta Watson Waller after 4 games Boyle was solid last year and even Daniel Brown I think once he learns a little more could be a good TE I just think we could get the most for Gilmore plus all the injuries is a bit concerning.  

Gillmore is a possibility, and he's shown promise; however, I'm not sure a team trades for him since he's only done it for one year and barely that. He's also cheap since he's on his rookie deal and has, imo, more value to us longterm than Pitta. 

[Wildabeast88]

5 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Gillmore is a possibility, and he's shown promise; however, I'm not sure a team trades for him since he's only done it for one year and barely that. He's also cheap since he's on his rookie deal and has, imo, more value to us longterm than Pitta. 

That was my thinking as well but I don't think I can see them moving Pitta 

[BmoreBird22]

Why would the Ravens want to move a TE? Marc Trestman likes his tight ends, so the Ravens will likely use a two tight end set a lot.

On top of that, Crockett can't stay healthy and Pitta made it through camp in 2014 before going down with a non-contact injury, so there's no reason to believe he can stay healthy until proven otherwise.

Plus, the Ravens have probably (if all stay healthy) the best tight end GROUP in the NFL, even better than NE, so why break that up? Joe loves his tight ends, so why break up the best part of the roster?

[balfan23]

TE is a tricky position for us. If everyone stays healthy - we end up with Watson, Gilmore, Pitta and Max. Can we really carry 4 TEs on the roster? That feels like too many, but I don't think we want to release any of them. On the other hand, I have to think we'd be concerned dealing any of them - particularly Watson. I think we fear that Pitta could go down any second and be done for the season (and career). Gilmore hasn't shown he can stay on the field and Max still has a lot to learn. 

Personally, I think we stand pat, carry 4, cut Waller and then we'll see what happens when Boyle is able to return. If anyone gets hurt, he's in. If not, I'm not sure what we do. 

[Wildabeast88]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Why would the Ravens want to move a TE? Marc Trestman likes his tight ends, so the Ravens will likely use a two tight end set a lot.

On top of that, Crockett can't stay healthy and Pitta made it through camp in 2014 before going down with a non-contact injury, so there's no reason to believe he can stay healthy until proven otherwise.

Plus, the Ravens have probably (if all stay healthy) the best tight end GROUP in the NFL, even better than NE, so why break that up? Joe loves his tight ends, so why break up the best part of the roster?

 

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

 

I know Trestman loves the TE and I get the injury concerns but most teams don't carry for plus Waller and Boyle being suspended. Mainly I just want to see what everyone thinks. I think our group is awesome but if we can get something out of it what it would take and who would go. 

[rmw10]

Too many question marks. Pitta is obviously a risk at any point and Crockett always seems to be banged up. If you trade one and another gets hurt, that depth is suddenly no longer that deep. 

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I personally don't know why the Lions would want to call us about any of our Tight Ends because they know we'll have to be cutting a lot of players soon. If they can't find something they like on that waiver wire then they might go looking.

Can't see us trading Watson since we just picked him up in FA.

Who would trade for Pitta or Crockett at this point with their health issues?

We're not trading Maxx Williams.

Waller, Brown, and Boyle may all be cut at some point and two of them are suspended so they can't play anyway.

Trades are a lot more rare in the NFL than they are in MLB.

[JoeyFlex5]

7 hours ago, usmccharles said:

If Crockett and Max stay healthy, I wouldn't mind trading Watson and saving some of that money, I just wasn't a fan of the sign but I understood it at the time.  Id rather keep the young guys on their cheap deals assuming they are producing, also I would think Watson would be the most appealing to them. 

i wasnt a fan either but something tells me hes gonna end up our top target. i have a very strong feeling that every other TE is gonna take a backseat to him and hes gonna be one of the best in the league playing on this offense. 

 

considering they lost pettigrew who was known as the more physical type, gritty possession guy and a grade-A blocker, and ebron who was a vertical threat, i would say gillmore would be the most appealing to them, considering he does both at a relatively high level, crocketts best asset in the passing game is getting downfield and outleaping guys in the seam and ebron still being a really raw athlete essentially relies on the same thing. i could see them valuing him a bit. 

 

i think its a moot point though, i dont think were trading anybody for the futures sake, watson is up there in age, pitta is self explanatory, and the rest of our guys are high potential but unproven. a year from now we may need 2 of these guys to step up and it would be a shame if we traded away someone and they light it up elsewhere while our guys struggle.

[Tru11]

probably nt worth it since i dont think we will be getting a mid round pick in return.

 

[Ravenseconbeast]

18 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Well if they give us a 6th round for Waller I'm all in.

Doubt it though...

 

They need a starter.   Im sure they have plenty of bench material too.   Ben Watson makes sense to me.

[VermontRaven]

Interesting idea.  I think it all depends on how desperate the Lions are.  I think Williams is untouchable because he is so young and a 2nd round pick.  I seriously doubt they would offer anything for Pitta with his health issues.  Crockett is young and has lots of potential if he can stay healthy, so I don't see the Ravens trading him unless they are blown away.  I doubt they want Waller as he is unproven and suspended 4 games.  That leaves Watson....While I find it unlikely the Ravens would trade their new FA addition, if Detroit was desperate and offered a 4th or 5th (which I doubt they do), I could see the Ravens doing it if they are happy with how Pitta, Crockett, and Williams look (and Waller as a fall-back plan)...not even factoring in Boyle when he is out 10 games...So, do I expect a trade to happen, no....but never say never if Detroit is desperate enough to pay the right price.

[Purple_City39]

On 8/7/2016 at 0:29 AM, EdTheMythicalOne said:

I personally don't know why the Lions would want to call us about any of our Tight Ends because they know we'll have to be cutting a lot of players soon. If they can't find something they like on that waiver wire then they might go looking.

Can't see us trading Watson since we just picked him up in FA.

Who would trade for Pitta or Crockett at this point with their health issues?

We're not trading Maxx Williams.

Waller, Brown, and Boyle may all be cut at some point and two of them are suspended so they can't play anyway.

Trades are a lot more rare in the NFL than they are in MLB.

Pretty much this.  Unless the Lions are in a hurry to get someone in there to practice asap, there's no reason for them not to just wait and save a draft pick.

I can't see the Ravens trading any of their TEs anyway.  At best Daniel Brown is the only option and he's a complete unknown at the position.

[redlobster]

My possible trade order :

 

1. Pitta

2. Gilmore

3. Watson

4. Waller

5. Williams

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Maybe we should just keep as many as possible.

[Deflated Football]

1 hour ago, redlobster said:

My possible trade order :

 

1. Pitta

2. Gilmore

3. Watson

4. Waller

5. Williams

I doubt anyone will send anything for Pitta and he's given the Ravens no reason to be fearful of past injuries. Dude is looking like he hasn't missed any time. Crockett is a maybe, but when he's healthy, he's Gronk-like, meaning it's so hard to get him down and he's crucial for RAC yards. We just signed Watson and I think he's a good veteran presence to have. I would keep Waller and send him out wide on occasion. He can be a matchup nightmare. I wouldn't entertain any offers for Mad Maxx. 

 

So, in summary, only guy I'd think about trading is Crockett, but I'd still be extremely iffy. Rather just keep all of our TE's and be thin somewhere else (RB). 

[ravensdan]

I'd trade Pitta for any decent offer in a heartbeat. 

[Tank 92]

7 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

I'd trade Pitta for any decent offer in a heartbeat. 

I get your drift, but I think if Pitta is healthy enough to be considered for a trade it's highly unlikely to happen. Given the chemistry he had with Joe in the past I don't see it happening. 

Edited August 8, 2016 by Tank 92

[RayRocks]

7 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

I get your drift, but I think if Pitta is healthy enough to be considered for a trade it's highly unlikely to happen. Given the chemistry he had with Joe in the past I don't see it happening. 

Right, and its highly unlikely anyone would offer anything other than a conditional pick for him due to his injury history.  He's worth WAY more on the Ravens then he is to anyone else at this time.

[FastEddie]

It would be Pitta, Gilmore, or Watson being the more unlikely of the three depending on what the offers were. Gilmore is a solid option at the spot, but would be willing to part...think we've seen his ceiling IMO.

Anything to get some more playing time in for Maxx.

[Deflated Football]

2 hours ago, ravensdan said:

I'd trade Pitta for any decent offer in a heartbeat. 

I thought the same thing when he announced he'll return to the NFL, but now, my mind has changed after seeing him play. Can't divorce the bromance between him and Flacco. 

[rmcjacket23]

Once again, we are overvaluing our own players as far as tradability.

Also, I don't get the OPs insinuation that they've lost all their best TEs. They didn't really have any good TEs to begin with, and the one they are banking on to be good, Ebron, isn't anywhere close to out for the year. Fully expected to be back for the start of the regular season, and could even be ready by end of preseason.

Edited August 8, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[757RavensFan]

Well now that most of our TEs are on the mend, we dont have the depth or luxury to trade any of them.

Edited August 9, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Trading for our TE's.....ain't nobody got time for that!

Who in their right mind would trade for Dennis Pitta? What GM is out there saying, "I need to get him on the field and worry about that twice snapped in half left leg every single time he's on the field because I really need that drama!"

Who would trade for beat up Gillmore right now? Guy is coming off of a shoulder labrum surgery (which are not automatic success stories), Was going to have the same thing done on his other shoulder but supposedly he doesn't need it. I bet you he gets that one done next off season. And he's currently out of practice with a hamstring injury.

Ravens are NOT going to trade: Watson, Williams.

If teams want Waller or Boyle they can't have them until after their suspensions are up anyway, at which point they might be cut from the roster and you can just claim them for free at that point. Why make a trade?