Who are you looking for in PS week 1?

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

"Peanut" is listed at 6'0'' and 217lbs. which would make him a very light LB. Still he could be versatile enough to play some back up safety, dime LB, and of course special teams.

when discussing sua cravens i always said that when you have one of the best run stopping fronts in the league, and the LB/S hybrid player in question can cover more ground than a typical linebacker, then its ok, linebackers in a "read and react" type of scenario are usually lined up 4-8 yards behind the DTs, put the hybrid guy on the deeper side of that, on run plays he can see the play developing more clearly and quickly close in and shoot the gap IF the play makes it upfield. cant ask every linebacker to be a thumper on every snap, football just isnt that kinda game anymore. your hybrid guy being lined up a few yards deeper keeps blockers off of him and the difference of speed between safeties and linebackers makes it a non issue for the most part, elam, even though hes a dummy, can cover 10 yards in the time mosley covers 5, so if you have a box safety who isnt a dummy like elam but can cover ground better than any of your LBs thats all you need them for, just cleanup duty. the boost in coverage makes it well worth it i would say.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

when discussing sua cravens i always said that when you have one of the best run stopping fronts in the league, and the LB/S hybrid player in question can cover more ground than a typical linebacker, then its ok, linebackers in a "read and react" type of scenario are usually lined up 4-8 yards behind the DTs, put the hybrid guy on the deeper side of that, on run plays he can see the play developing more clearly and quickly close in and shoot the gap IF the play makes it upfield. cant ask every linebacker to be a thumper on every snap, football just isnt that kinda game anymore. your hybrid guy being lined up a few yards deeper keeps blockers off of him and the difference of speed between safeties and linebackers makes it a non issue for the most part, elam, even though hes a dummy, can cover 10 yards in the time mosley covers 5, so if you have a box safety who isnt a dummy like elam but can cover ground better than any of your LBs thats all you need them for, just cleanup duty. the boost in coverage makes it well worth it i would say.

So we need to find our Bob Sanders.

[JoeyFlex5]

49 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

So we need to find our Bob Sanders.

more like deone bucannon, bob sanders was rare talent when he was healthy lol, he played like a real safety but still could do a linebackers job. 

for this team, i actually dont think we need to implement one of these guys, i think we have a very good thing going with correa and mosley, and then i think our safety tandem is really under the radar right now but is gonna surprise everybody, but say correa stayed as an edge rusher and we never signed weddle, then yes i would be seriously pulling for onwuasor because hes that guy who plays far more physical than a safety but covers more ground than a linebacker, if he has the vision and instincts and smarts to play that role effectively than id be pulling for him more than any ILB on the team, and the size wouldnt bother me a bit because of the reasons listed in the last post.

moot point though because i think correa takes the job with ease and becomes THE playmaker on this defense.

Edited August 7, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[Jacquouille]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

more like deone bucannon, bob sanders was rare talent when he was healthy lol, he played like a real safety but still could do a linebackers job. 

for this team, i actually dont think we need to implement one of these guys, i think we have a very good thing going with correa and mosley, and then i think our safety tandem is really under the radar right now but is gonna surprise everybody, but say correa stayed as an edge rusher and we never signed weddle, then yes i would be seriously pulling for onwuasor because hes that guy who plays far more physical than a safety but covers more ground than a linebacker, if he has the vision and instincts and smarts to play that role effectively than id be pulling for him more than any ILB on the team, and the size wouldnt bother me a bit because of the reasons listed in the last post.

moot point though because i think correa takes the job with ease and becomes THE playmaker on this defense.

Well Onwuasor still has a spot on dime packages available if he performs, as a LB/S.

Like:

 

          Jernigan  Williams  Urban

          Orr         Mosley       Correa

Jimmy           Onwuasor                Shareece

         Weddle                Webb

 

Edited August 7, 2016 by Jacquouille

[Batcerb]

On 7 August 2016 at 11:01 PM, Jacquouille said:

Well Onwuasor still has a spot on dime packages available if he performs, as a LB/S.

Like:

 

          Jernigan  Williams  Urban

          Orr         Mosley       Correa

Jimmy           Onwuasor                Shareece

         Weddle                Webb

 

 

Good speed, ball skills ... Hits like a train ... cant wait to see him in action this week.

[jdynamite]

I'm looking forward to seeing these Running Backs perform, with that I get to see how the various OL members are doing. Who mans starting LG position Urshal I would assume. 

 

Also I'm looking to see someone on the DL stand out, Urban, KLM, Henry anyone. 

 

 

[757RavensFan]

On 8/7/2016 at 7:01 AM, Jacquouille said:

Well Onwuasor still has a spot on dime packages available if he performs, as a LB/S.

Like:

 

          Jernigan  Williams  Urban

          Orr         Mosley       Correa

Jimmy           Onwuasor                Shareece

         Weddle                Webb

 

Urban over Guy??

[Edgar]

Lewis-Moore has shown absolutely nothing. He needs to show something this pre-season or he should go.

I'd rather we sign a rotational veteran than keep Lewis- Moore because we're thin

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, Edgar said:

Lewis-Moore has shown absolutely nothing. He needs to show something this pre-season or he should go.

I'd rather we sign a rotational veteran than keep Lewis- Moore because we're thin

Lewis-Moore has reportedly had a stellar camp so far and has been spending quite a bit of time with the 1s.  Of course, that has to transfer over to the games, but it does sound like he's been showing something so far.

[BmoreBird22]

15 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Lewis-Moore has reportedly had a stellar camp so far and has been spending quite a bit of time with the 1s.  Of course, that has to transfer over to the games, but it does sound like he's been showing something so far.

Where'd you see this? Haven't heard a peep about him.

[rmw10]

9 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Where'd you see this? Haven't heard a peep about him.

Saw Zrebiec tweet about it on Friday and then I noticed that KLM got most of the reps with the 1s when I went on Saturday night.

[BmoreBird22]

11 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Saw Zrebiec tweet about it on Friday and then I noticed that KLM got most of the reps with the 1s when I went on Saturday night.

Always someone I wanted to succeed because of those injuries. Good to hear he's doing well.

[rmw10]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

Always someone I wanted to succeed because of those injuries. Good to hear he's doing well.

Seems like a genuinely good guy too.  As is always the case, you just have to hope it parlays over into games.  Definitely rooting for him though.  I had considered him as firmly cut, but I certainly hope he proves me wrong.

[757RavensFan]

26 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Lewis-Moore has reportedly had a stellar camp so far and has been spending quite a bit of time with the 1s.  Of course, that has to transfer over to the games, but it does sound like he's been showing something so far.

Kaufusi going down definitely helped KLM's chances of making the team.  But the way KLM is performing in camp right now, IF Kaufusi stayed healthy he might have found his way on the mystery IR list.  

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Seems like a genuinely good guy too.  As is always the case, you just have to hope it parlays over into games.  Definitely rooting for him though.  I had considered him as firmly cut, but I certainly hope he proves me wrong.

If he's getting first team reps, that's hard to cut him.

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Kaufusi going down definitely helped KLM's chances of making the team.  But the way KLM is performing in camp right now, IF Kaufusi stayed healthy he might have found his way on the mystery IR list.  

No real reason to do that since I believe KLM is a FA next year, I believe.

[757RavensFan]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

No real reason to do that since I believe KLM is a FA next year, I believe.

Since KLM is playing so well, I was implying that Kaufusi may have found his way on mystery IR if he didn't break his ankle.  Sorry for the confusion.  

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, 757RavensFan said:

Since KLM is playing so well, I was implying that Kaufusi may have found his way on mystery IR if he didn't break his ankle.  Sorry for the confusion.  

The only risk with that in Kaufusi's case is he's already 25, but you could tell he really needed some refinement. 

Not a fan of the IR process for year one, but we'll get to see for next year.

[berad]

KLM was a decent talent at Notre Dame but hurt himself in the championship game. Since then, he's been banged up and inconsistent.

Someone with a similar story was Art Jones who needed a couple years to get up to his potential then gave us some solid production. Maybe KLM follows the same path? Maybe.

[Edgar]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

Lewis-Moore has reportedly had a stellar camp so far and has been spending quite a bit of time with the 1s.  Of course, that has to transfer over to the games, but it does sound like he's been showing something so far.

It would be great if he makes the leap. I don't want him on the team because Kaufusi is injured.

To this point, (and I don't know about this year's workouts), he hasn't shown he can find the ball while engaged and he gets routinely moved off the ball.

Pretty underwhelming.

 

[Cillmatic]

Where's all this hype for this "Onwuasor" dude coming from?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Im going to be paying attention to Arthur Brown to see if he has any shot of making this team.

Similarly ill be watching Elam and Brooks... as well as Levine, Lewis and Onwuasor in that S/LB hybrid role. Want to see someone shine there.

Tackle spots are huge. want to see stanley against live fire and if Wagner looks more like his first or 2nd year. Want to see the interior line generate a push off the snap and open some holes... bc we have the backs to be successful if the line can just get them the 1st yard or two.

Excited to see Zadarius and Jernigan taking the next step. Judon/Ochi is interesting too, to see if we have another pass rusher that we can deploy this year.... or if theyre both projects.

And Correa. Liking this pick more and more.

 

Doubt we'll see any veteran starters for long so a lot of the secondary stuff we wont get a good idea of, but otherwise -- just excited that footballs back baby. One more day.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

25 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Where's all this hype for this "Onwuasor" dude coming from?

I'll take the credit for it. 

I picked him as my UDFA to make the team right after the draft.... 

But, i dont deserve credit for it. Its been his aggressive play in practice, blowing some people up and getting in some scuffles, as well as the fact that hes an UDFA thats getting mention in articles here -- every year theres one or two that get a hype train going into preseason and then usually do nothing with it.

Onwuasor may be different though... hes not your typical small-school UDFA. He had D1 talent coming out of HS... hes fast, physical, fits a role we're trying to create and dont have a tailor-made guy on the roster for (that safety/LB hybrid role), and we want turnovers  and this guy was a turnover machine in college. He's a DB/LB that played WR in HS so hes got actual ball skills.

It's probably just as simple as - hes been mentioned in articles, so that means hes clearly going to be a starter.

[OUravensfan]

On August 5, 2016 at 9:37 AM, rmw10 said:

I won't go for a specific player, but I want to see a playmaker on either side of the ball.  Someone that has the ball in their hands and is a threat to take it to the house every single time, or someone on the other side of the ball that can pick it off at any moment and instill fear in the opposing QB.  We've been missing a game changer for a couple of years now, and I hope someone steps up and takes that role for us.  We need some explosion.

Exactly. Aside from some 37 year old we hadn't had one. 

[OUravensfan]

2 hours ago, Edgar said:

It would be great if he makes the leap. I don't want him on the team because Kaufusi is injured.

To this point, (and I don't know about this year's workouts), he hasn't shown he can find the ball while engaged and he gets routinely moved off the ball.

Pretty underwhelming.

 

He's battled camp injuries and has only played in 3 games so far. I remember camp reports being positive on him right before he'd go down for the year. 

[Cillmatic]

2 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I'll take the credit for it. 

I picked him as my UDFA to make the team right after the draft.... 

But, i dont deserve credit for it. Its been his aggressive play in practice, blowing some people up and getting in some scuffles, as well as the fact that hes an UDFA thats getting mention in articles here -- every year theres one or two that get a hype train going into preseason and then usually do nothing with it.

Onwuasor may be different though... hes not your typical small-school UDFA. He had D1 talent coming out of HS... hes fast, physical, fits a role we're trying to create and dont have a tailor-made guy on the roster for (that safety/LB hybrid role), and we want turnovers  and this guy was a turnover machine in college. He's a DB/LB that played WR in HS so hes got actual ball skills.

It's probably just as simple as - hes been mentioned in articles, so that means hes clearly going to be a starter.

I've inly seen one article about him, got any links?

[EdTheMythicalOne]

8 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

I've inly seen one article about him, got any links?

If you are talking about Onwuasor and information about him in camp, there really hasn't been much. He's made a few big hits that some players found objectionable and led to shoving matches and jaw-jabbering. He's the one that hit Dixon on the sidelines (which may have been out of bounds and late) and hurt him. He then stood over him and "flexed." He's one of the safeties/hybrids they are trying out at the dime linebacker spot. Let me see what I can find really quick:

Here's one about him popping Juice, Allen, and Dixon. The other links I found for him here on this site all pretty much reference those incidents. So he's hitting guys hard but, not meaning to knock him here, I am not seeing anything about him actually making plays. I guess that is part of the reason why we're all looking forward to the pre season games, right?

[Ravensfan23]

On 8/5/2016 at 9:37 AM, rmw10 said:

I won't go for a specific player, but I want to see a playmaker on either side of the ball.  Someone that has the ball in their hands and is a threat to take it to the house every single time, or someone on the other side of the ball that can pick it off at any moment and instill fear in the opposing QB.  We've been missing a game changer for a couple of years now, and I hope someone steps up and takes that role for us.  We need some explosion.

I see four potential guys who fit that description and I say potential because none have shown anything yet. 

1. Perriman. I think he's gonna be well worth the wait. I believe he'll not only be a big play waiting to happen but he'll be a guy who can catch 5-7 balls each game with the potential to score on each touch. Legit #1 potential. Someone listed the Ravens big 3 as #29. Well I believe the big 3 of Flacco, Perriman and Dixon will be deadly. Which leads me to.....

2. Dixon. I think he'll be the most dynamic RB we've had including Rice. This guy will be a beast in space and Trestman will use him as a weapon. This spread offense will put so much pressure on defenders and the mismatches he'll create will lead to huge ran yardage. 

3. Waller. I know he's making a position change and his suspension leaves his roster spot in question but the 2 times I've been out to practice this guy was a nightmare for both LBs and Safeties. His size and speed will make it so tough to handle him in the seams of the defense and his height will give Joe such an easy target. Again the spread offense will only create space for him to work and make things easier for him blocking, but tougher on defenders. I really see him and Williams as a dominate duo. 

4. Correa. I think he'll be used both inside and out causing nightmares for QBs. The energy and passion he'll bring will just cause the defense to follow suit. Even tho he's a LB I think he'll help so much with turnovers and getting the ball back to the offense. I think offenses will have to identify were he is lined up on each play and he'll be a 10-12 sack guy a year. I don't think he'll be the pass rusher that guys like ZDS and Ochi will be from a technical standpoint but his ability to blitz from anywhere and also drop in coverage will terrorize offenses. 

Again all those guys are potential guys but I'll be watching the preseason to see at least an glimpse of if that potential is there.

[ravensnj]

I can't wait to see our secondary play, especially with our new additions Weddle , Powers, and Young. But mostly, can Webb playing center field, keep Jimmy from being toasted on a weekly basis?

[Cillmatic]

Football.