Heiz Ward Talkin Smack!

[thewarden86]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='130228' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:28 PM']you must don't understand the mechanics of football.you must have no knowledge of how momentum works.you must not understand how penalties at a crucial part of a game can totally turn things around. Look at the Colts/Chargers game,and our previous match-up with the Titans.Oh,of course, our games against the Steelers/opportunists.You guys don't win most of your games by dominating, your wins come by opportunity(often).I can give yall that much credit.[b]We or the Refs (Handed) yall the games and yall politely took'em.[/b] Not to mention teams with losing records scoring 2+ TD's on yall.Explain that Mr#1 Defense!!One more thing,Don't act like the Colts didn't (Drive) down the field to Take a game away from yall at home.And I know yall are already counting this upcoming game as a vicotry because yall feel that yall dodged a bullet when the Titans lost.Believe me,yall didnt want them again.yall figured we would be the easier match-up.If we can beat the Titans hurt&tired,we most definitely can prevail against yall.so,look at history and stop Frontin like yall sumthin special!!![/quote]

That is the biggest crock I've ever heard. Wake up dude.

[NapaSteelerFan]

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130229' date='Jan 15 2009, 09:28 AM']NO FRIGGIN DUH!!!!. Its pretty easy to do it when no ones is LOOKING.[/quote]

So how do you explain Scott 'SEEING' Ward coming and diving out of the way like a f'en ****?

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='NapaSteelerFan' post='130236' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:33 PM']So how do you explain Scott 'SEEING' Ward coming and diving out of the way like a f'en ****?[/quote]

So tell me MR ALL-KNOWING STEELERS fan what would you do In that situation, stand there and get hit like a punk or avoid the hit. If you would stay there and get hit and face injury then your more crazy than I thought. And thats one hit out of his many blind-sided hits thats someone caught him. Im pretty sure if Keith Rivers had a chance he would have ducked too.

[Steelerkillers]

[quote name='thewarden86' post='130235' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:32 PM'] That is the biggest crock I've ever heard. Wake up dude.[/quote]
yeah,your response tells me you guys are in denial.Its all Factual.so,given the reason you didnt debate my point about History and your Colts loss,and your #1Defense giving up points and huge pass yrds to losing teams,all you can say is Wake Up dude??? The truth is,you're still sleepin on the reality of Ravens vs Steelers. So,i need to tell you,,,Wake Up!!!!

[steelball]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='130228' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:28 PM']you must don't understand the mechanics of football.you must have no knowledge of how momentum works.you must not understand how penalties at a crucial part of a game can totally turn things around. Look at the Colts/Chargers game,and our previous match-up with the Titans.Oh,of course, our games against the Steelers/opportunists.You guys don't win most of your games by dominating, your wins come by opportunity(often).I can give yall that much credit.We or the Refs (Handed) yall the games and yall politely took'em. Not to mention teams with losing records scoring 2+ TD's on yall.Explain that Mr#1 Defense!!One more thing,Don't act like the Colts didn't (Drive) down the field to Take a game away from yall at home.And I know yall are already counting this upcoming game as a vicotry because yall feel that yall dodged a bullet when the Titans lost.Believe me,yall didnt want them again.yall figured we would be the easier match-up.If we can beat the Titans hurt&tired,we most definitely can prevail against yall.so,look at history and stop Frontin like yall sumthin special!!![/quote]

- Domination? New England dominated almost every team in the regular season last year. How'd that work out for them?
- Every team gets their fair share of opportunity - what you do with the opportunity makes all the difference. It's not luck which made the Lions 0-16; they earned it.
- Tell me - how does momentum work? Wasn't San Diego the hottest team in the NFL?

Now I don't want to take anything away from the Ravens and what they've done recently, because I give them mad respect - but you're just a hater.

[NapaSteelerFan]

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130241' date='Jan 15 2009, 09:39 AM']So tell me MR ALL-KNOWING STEELERS fan what would you do In that situation, stand there and get hit like a punk or avoid the hit. If you would stay there and get hit and face injury then your more crazy than I thought. And thats one hit out of his many blind-sided hits thats someone caught him. Im pretty sure if Keith Rivers had a chance he would have ducked too.[/quote]

You want to know how to handle it? Go watch the video of Harrison wasting the WR trying to crackback on him!!
Thats how a REAL defensive player handles an offensive player attempting a crackback!

Scott's a ****, plain and simple!

[steelball]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='130242' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:41 PM']yeah,your response tells me you guys are in denial.Its all Factual.so,given the reason you didnt debate my point about History and your Colts loss,and your #1Defense giving up points and huge pass yrds to losing teams,all you can say is Wake Up dude??? The truth is,you're still sleepin on the reality of Ravens vs Steelers. So,i need to tell you,,,Wake Up!!!![/quote]

How many net yards did the Ravens defense give up against the Titans last week? You know just as well as anyone here that Chris Johnson was beating you like a stepdaddy.

And didn't the lowly Browns hang 27 pts on you in the regular season? If you're gonna post stats, better cover your own butt first.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='130242' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:41 PM']yeah,your response tells me you guys are in denial.Its all Factual.so,given the reason you didnt debate my point about History and your Colts loss,and your #1Defense giving up points and huge pass yrds to losing teams,all you can say is Wake Up dude??? The truth is,you're still sleepin on the reality of Ravens vs Steelers. So,i need to tell you,,,Wake Up!!!![/quote]

No, your post didn't deserve any more of a response than I gave. But I'll tell you what, I'll be listening to NFL Network on sirius in about 90 minutes. I DARE you to call them with that BS. PLEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE!!!!!!! I want to hear you get laughed off the air. In fact, I'll pay you to call them. You have PayPal?

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='NapaSteelerFan' post='130248' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:44 PM']You want to know how to handle it? Go watch the video of Harrison wasting the WR trying to crackback on him!!
Thats how a REAL defensive player handles an offensive player attempting a crackback!

Scott's a ****, plain and simple![/quote]

The difference in that hit is that Harrison actually noticed the crackback coming before it happened, Scott didn't have time to react other than duck. Ray knocked out houshmanwhatever because he got a chance to react. If you honeslty think Scott is weak linebacker you did not watch the Titans game, even the announcers said he was laying the wood all game. Lets see how harrison would have handle that if he had no time to react.

[Murph]

[quote name='3Zach21' post='129829' date='Jan 14 2009, 10:17 PM']did you just compare a wide receiver block to a hit on the Qb.. are you retarted? At least the QB HAS THE BALL! .. you know ward just sits back there and looks for people not looking to run up and "nail"[/quote]


Are you really saying that a player should have the ball before they get hit.

This is FOOTBALL and BLOCKING is part of the game. Maybe if Ravens' WR's could block, they would move the ball a little better.

[SuggsNotDrugs]

[quote name='steelball' post='130249' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:46 PM']How many net yards did the Ravens defense give up against the Titans last week? You know just as well as anyone here that Chris Johnson was beating you like a stepdaddy.

And didn't the lowly Browns hang 27 pts on you in the regular season? If you're gonna post stats, better cover your own butt first.[/quote]

You guys are really pathetic, you only come here because you think it's funny to get Ravens fans all flustered. It didn't happen nearly as much in seasons past when The Ravens would take 1, or both of the contests, but since you're feeling so confident you come to trash talk to make yourselves feel good.

It's not about stats, never has been. We may give up a lot of net yards on occasion, or "too many" points, but it happens to every team, and every defense. What matters are wins.

You Steeler fans are like the dumb blonde homecoming queens in high school. You expect to be there, you're jaded by your success, and you whine like spoiled little girls. You don't treat others with respect, you gossip and name call to make yourselves feel good, it's pathetic. Talk strategy, talk about real things that matter, don't waste your time talking trash because that's all it is.

Ward take cheap shots, that's a fact. The Ravens take cheap shots, that's a fact. Lots of teams do a lot of "dirty" things. It's football. Ward likes to be the center of attention, he's an instigator, he loves to get under people's skin, just like the fans. Just let it go Steelers fans, and let it go Ravens fans. He's cheap we know it, we've done some cheap stuff, that's the game. Just stop the back and forth bull crap and spend your energy talking about stuff that matters!

Steelers fans will only get us mad, they're not changing anyone's minds, we're not changing there's we're only enabling them to sit back and laugh at our expense. Let them laugh, we'll be laughing when they get blind sided by the Ravens who will win with second and third stringers to their totally healthy and primed team. They don't see it coming, they can't fathom the idea of us winning, their hearts will stop

[NapaSteelerFan]

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130253' date='Jan 15 2009, 09:52 AM']The difference in that hit is that Harrison actually noticed the crackback coming before it happened, Scott didn't have time to react other than duck. Ray knocked out houshmanwhatever because he got a chance to react. If you honeslty think Scott is weak linebacker you did not watch the Titans game, even the announcers said he was laying the wood all game. Lets see how harrison would have handle that if he had no time to react.[/quote]

I promise you, flat out PROMISE you, Harrison will NEVER duck away from contact under any circumstance (would Ray Lewis? nope)!!!

I never said Scott was a weak linebacker (dudes got talent) I just said he's straight up a **** for ducking contact from a WR. THATS A FACT!

[SteelRules]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='130188' date='Jan 15 2009, 11:53 AM']Now, let me put this out there upfront.I'm not saying the ball didn't break the plane of the goal line, It might have. It was incredibly close.But the point is the call on the field should not have been overturned. It was one of those plays where whatever call was made on the field should stand. There simply was not enough evidence to reverse the call, whichever way it was initially ruled.Eariler in the game the Steelers had a 3rd & 1 from their own 29-yard line. Russell took it up the middle but tackled by Ngata and Ray. It looked like he was stopped about a half yard short of the marker but the line judge gave the steelers the 1st. Harbs challanged the call and the refs took another look Multiple TV replays seemed to show Russell getting stood up short of the 30-yard line, but the positioning of the cameras did not allow Coleman a definitive angle showing Russell's forward progress getting stopped. It sure looked to everyone watching like the Steelers were short, but Coleman did not see conclusive visual evidence. So he couldn't reverse the call.

The refs can't have it both ways. If there wasn't an angle providing clear evidence to reverse the call the first time around, Coleman sure didn't have it on the Steelers' late touchdown.

For the replay system to work, there has to be consistency. That night there was none.

Neither play necessarily lost the Ravens the game we should never have put the refs in that position. This defense knows allowing a 92-yard drive with the game on the line just isn't acceptable.


Im not whining, just stating facts about the Refs, I dont blame the Steelers but in the end the refs have to learn how to officiate an ENTIRE game the same way.[/quote]
Understood. But here's what I'm sayoing. The ref is the only person who gets to judge what is incontrovertible evidence. Not the fans, not the announcers, the ref. He l;ooks at whatever replays are available and makes the call to his best ability, as he sees it. We may or may not like it, but he looks and he decides and only he gets to say what is or isn't sufficient evidence to overturn or keep a call on the field.
And again, he was right! That's the bottom line. Whatever he saw led him to believe that the correct call was touchdown, and he was right. Replays from directly above the line prove it.
What do you guys have to complain about?

[steelball]

[quote name='Steelerkillers' post='129686' date='Jan 14 2009, 08:05 PM']Just In. I was watchin NFL Network and Heinz Ward (Said)"I hope they put another bounty on me,tell them that!!!! Not only that, The analysts visited their lockeroom/Post-Practice,They are talkin major trash. They're confident simply because they beat us twice,and stated that they know they have the better Defense.Hey guys, this thing is gettin more intense the closer Sunday approaches. I swear i hope we pull a rabbit out of a hat and Destroy them!!! 30sumthin to 3.[/quote]

Hell yeah he's talking smack. You put a bounty on him before, do it again. Man up and bring it - this is the AFCCG, go strong or go home! You really think that with everything at stake, and the history between these two teams, theres such a thing as bulletin board material? Heck no...as long as any player on the field (from either team) has a pulse, they will be beating the snot out of each other.

[Murph]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='130257' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:55 PM']You guys are really pathetic, you only come here because you think it's funny to get Ravens fans all flustered. It didn't happen nearly as much in seasons past when The Ravens would take 1, or both of the contests, but since you're feeling so confident you come to trash talk to make yourselves feel good.

It's not about stats, never has been. We may give up a lot of net yards on occasion, or "too many" points, but it happens to every team, and every defense. What matters are wins.

You Steeler fans are like the dumb blonde homecoming queens in high school. [b]You expect to be there, you're jaded by your success[/b], and you whine like spoiled little girls. You don't treat others with respect, you gossip and name call to make yourselves feel good, it's pathetic. Talk strategy, talk about real things that matter, don't waste your time talking trash because that's all it is.

Ward take cheap shots, that's a fact. [b]The Ravens take cheap shots, that's a fact[/b]. Lots of teams do a lot of "dirty" things. It's football. Ward likes to be the center of attention, he's an instigator, he loves to get under people's skin, just like the fans. Just let it go Steelers fans, and let it go Ravens fans. He's cheap we know it, we've done some cheap stuff, that's the game. Just stop the back and forth bull crap and spend your energy talking about stuff that matters!

Steelers fans will only get us mad, they're not changing anyone's minds, we're not changing there's we're only enabling them to sit back and laugh at our expense. Let them laugh, we'll be laughing when they get blind sided by the Ravens who will win with second and third stringers to their totally healthy and primed team. They don't see it coming, they can't fathom the idea of us winning, their hearts will stop[/quote]
Probably true. When the Ravens have the success the Steelers have had, maybe their fans will expect greatness also instead of hoping for it.

Also nice to see that you point to one Steeler giving cheap shots but admit that the Ravens' as a whole give sheap shots. They are certainly the cheapest defense in the league.

At least you are rational in your assessment.

[NapaSteelerFan]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='130257' date='Jan 15 2009, 09:55 AM']Steelers fans will only get us mad, they're not changing anyone's minds, we're not changing there's we're only enabling them to sit back and laugh at our expense. Let them laugh, we'll be laughing when they get blind sided by the Ravens who will win with second and third stringers to their totally healthy and primed team. They don't see it coming, they can't fathom the idea of us winning, their hearts will stop[/quote]

WOW, just wow. You accuse Steeler fans of being unable to fathom a loss to you guys, but can you fathom a loss from us? You believe you can walk into Hienz field with second stringers and walk out with a win?

Good luck with that my friend!

Go check any of my posts, I beleive either team can win this game, but I do enjoy having the intangables of Home Field and being more healthy!

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='NapaSteelerFan' post='130260' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:56 PM']I promise you, flat out PROMISE you, Harrison will NEVER duck away from contact under any circumstance (would Ray Lewis? nope)!!!

I never said Scott was a weak linebacker (dudes got talent) I just said he's straight up a **** for ducking contact from a WR. THATS A FACT![/quote]

HAHA OK DUDE, you give me a linebacker no a player period who would stand there and risk getting lit up and Keith Rivers type injury and not try to duck, hit back, or brush the player to side in order to keep pursuit angle to the ballcarrier and I'll show you someone who is to worried about not getting embarrassed and less worried about keeping hisself healthhy or making a critical stop. You must have never played the game of football pass pee-wee.

[SuggsNotDrugs]

[quote name='Murph' post='130265' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:02 PM']Probably true. When the Ravens have the success the Steelers have had, maybe their fans will expect greatness also instead of hoping for it.

Also nice to see that you point to one Steeler giving cheap shots but admit that the Ravens' as a whole give sheap shots. They are certainly the cheapest defense in the league.

At least you are rational in your assessment.[/quote]

Way to try and sneak in a cheap comment Murph. If you read the whole thing I said every team takes cheap shots. You Steelers fans love to act like you do no wrong, and the Ravens do no right. That's the problem you live with your heads in the clouds.

See if we lose it will hurt, but only because we lost to you guy. The fact remains we way over achieved this season, and we're a much stronger team than anyone expected. We have the second most players on IR in the league, and the most in team history, a rookie QB, yet we're in the AFCC game. The Steelers expected to be here, they always do, and when you lose you will all be devastated because you didn't think it was even possible. Admit it, you guys never saw this coming, never thought we'd be here, never thought we'd put up fights, never thought we'd kill your RB, never thought that it would come down to this. You keep under estimating us despite what we do, and one day, possibly soon, it will hurt you. Try realism at some point, you guys aren't the best team in the league, you're at your PRIME, we're at the first stage of rebuilding, we've got nowhere to go but up, you have reached the ceiling. Its going to be a tough few years for you coming up.

BTW Flacco finished with a better QB rating than Big Ben did, didn't see that coming either did you?

[steelball]

[i][b]
It's not about stats, never has been. We may give up a lot of net yards on occasion, or "too many" points, but it happens to every team, and every defense. What matters are wins.[/b][/i]

Look, I'm not talking trash - I'm just offering a counter argument to one poster who is trying to qualify defensive weakness via stats. Responding with stats creates an equal playing field. The argument then becomes null and void. Now if you're going to qualify things with subjective data, then it becomes an OPINION, not FACT. I'm setting the FACTS straight.


[i][b]You Steeler fans are like the dumb blonde homecoming queens in high school. You expect to be there, you're jaded by your success, and you whine like spoiled little girls. [/b][/i]
I'll give you one point - you're right that we're spoiled by success. Everywhere else you're just flinging your own poo.



[i][b]Let them laugh, we'll be laughing when they get blind sided by the Ravens who will win with second and third stringers to their totally healthy and primed team. They don't see it coming, they can't fathom the idea of us winning, their hearts will stop.[/b][/i]
This fan isn't taking the game lightly - I can assure you the Steelers coaching staff isn't either.

[steelball]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='130271' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:07 PM']The Steelers expected to be here, they always do, and when you lose you will all be devastated because you didn't think it was even possible. Admit it, you guys never saw this coming, never thought we'd be here, never thought we'd put up fights, never thought we'd kill your RB, never thought that it would come down to this.[/quote]

Honestly if you asked 99% of the Steeler fan base if they expected to be in the AFCCG this year, most would say "no". I wonder what the preseason odds were...I personally thought 9-7 and 10-6 would be a "great success".

[Murph]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='130271' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:07 PM']Way to try and sneak in a cheap comment Murph. If you read the whole thing I said every team takes cheap shots. [b]You Steelers fans love to act like you do no wrong[/b], and the Ravens do no right. That's the problem you live with your heads in the clouds.

See if we lose it will hurt, but only because we lost to you guy. The fact remains we way over achieved this season, and we're a much stronger team than anyone expected. We have the second most players on IR in the league, and the most in team history, a rookie QB, yet we're in the AFCC game. The Steelers expected to be here, they always do, and when you lose you will all be devastated because you didn't think it was even possible. Admit it, you guys never saw this coming, never thought we'd be here, never thought we'd put up fights, [b]never thought we'd kill your RB[/b], never thought that it would come down to this. You keep under estimating us despite what we do, and one day, possibly soon, it will hurt you. Try realism at some point, you guys aren't the best team in the league, you're at your PRIME, we're at the first stage of rebuilding, we've got nowhere to go but up, you have reached the ceiling. Its going to be a tough few years for you coming up.

BTW [b]Flacco finished with a better QB rating than Big Ben did[/b], didn't see that coming either did you?[/quote]
Never said that, but Ravens' fans make it like Ward does something wrong by blocking and playing hard, but Ravens' players take cheap shots all the time. A little bit of a double standard don't you think?
And, a killing from Ray would never surprise me. Prosecution might.
Considering injuries and schedule strength (one of the most difficult ever), that does not really surprise me.

[SuggsNotDrugs]

Steelball-

Everywhere else I'm flinging my own poo? Really?

So me saying plenty of teams and players are cheap or dirty at times isn't true?
Me saying you guys consistantly underestimate us isn't true?

I'm not the fan pretending my team is invincible, it's not, no team is. This is Ravens/Steelers expect the unexpected. Even with our second and third stringers we have a damn good chance, that's the truth. Your team is in it's prime and healthy, we're far from that, yet here we are. Keep dogging us, keep living thinking you can't be touched, and when it happens it's going to hurt worse than someone who kept it real.

I'm happy with our season if we lose, you'll say that's just Ravens fans coming up with excuses.

Sorry but I'm not ignorant to what real accomplishments are. Get your head out of your team's arse, and get off of Ward's lap.

He's getting older, he's slower, he's not as good as he was, he makes up for it by playing more dirty. It works, it's helpful to the team. I don't care if our guys play slightly dirty at times ITS FOOTBALL. But come down to earth man, you're not invincible, you can be touched, we've earned a lot this season

[Steelerkillers]

[quote name='steelball' post='130263' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:59 PM']Hell yeah he's talking smack. You put a bounty on him before, do it again. Man up and bring it - this is the AFCCG, go strong or go home! You really think that with everything at stake, and the history between these two teams, theres such a thing as bulletin board material? Heck no...as long as any player on the field (from either team) has a pulse, they will be beating the snot out of each other.[/quote]
maaaaann,this is toooooo funny.you Horrible Towel lovers really pursuade yourselves to believe hines won those games.just keep kiddin yourselves.hes a big-play maker.i cant give him that! but,the (4) slant-catches per game didnt cost us the victory. Us not puttin the games away did.Just becuz no-one on our Defense hit him (Yet),doesnt mean he proved anything.theres still a game to be played on Sunday,theres still a chance.but,we're not gonna focus all of our attention on Hines.We wont let yall beat us that way.Hines catches the ball.thats what he gets paid for.so,until he hits Suggs or Suggs hits him, catchin the ball is very irrelevant.That Bounty aint goin anywhere as long as Hines Catches Footballs for a living.

[SuggsNotDrugs]

[quote name='Murph' post='130276' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:14 PM']Never said that, but Ravens' fans make it like Ward does something wrong by blocking and playing hard, but Ravens' players take cheap shots all the time. A little bit of a double standard don't you think?
And, a killing from Ray would never surprise me. Prosecution might.
Considering injuries and schedule strength (one of the most difficult ever), that does not really surprise me.[/quote]

considering injuries? hahaha Steelers fans talking about injuries. Because we didn't have any right? D.Williams isn't on the IR. Most of our O-Line isn't on IR. Most of our recieving corps (Mason, Heap) aren't banged up, that's the reason why it happened, because of your injuries, not because of Flacco's talent, and Ben's declining performance due to the massive number of hits he takes......right....

like i said, your fans are delusional

[Murph]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='130277' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:15 PM']Steelball-

Everywhere else I'm flinging my own poo? Really?

So me saying plenty of teams and players are cheap or dirty at times isn't true?
[b]Me saying you guys consistantly underestimate us isn't true?[/b]
I'm not the fan pretending my team is invincible, it's not, no team is. This is Ravens/Steelers expect the unexpected. Even with our second and third stringers we have a damn good chance, that's the truth. Your team is in it's prime and healthy, we're far from that, yet here we are. Keep dogging us, keep living thinking you can't be touched, and when it happens it's going to hurt worse than someone who kept it real.

I'm happy with our season if we lose, you'll say that's just Ravens fans coming up with excuses.

Sorry but I'm not ignorant to what real accomplishments are. Get your head out of your team's arse, and get off of Ward's lap.

He's getting older, he's slower, he's not as good as he was, he makes up for it by playing more dirty. It works, it's helpful to the team. I don't care if our guys play slightly dirty at times ITS FOOTBALL. But come down to earth man, you're not invincible, you can be touched, we've earned a lot this season[/quote]

No that is not true. I doubt any Steeler is taking this, or any other game against the Ravens lightly. The fansalso don't take it lightly, but there is typically a confidence in the Steelers because they have earned it this year. In years they aren't as good, the fans are on the Steelers.

[steelball]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='130271' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:07 PM']BTW Flacco finished with a better QB rating than Big Ben did, didn't see that coming either did you?[/quote]

By 2/10 of a point! Cmon, guy...for someone who just said stats don't matter, only wins.
How's that passer rating working out for 19 out of 21 of the people ahead of Joe Flacco?

[dpatrickguy]

[quote name='thewarden86' post='129846' date='Jan 14 2009, 10:26 PM']Hines does get the crap knocked out of him weekly. He doesn't cry about it and he plays to the whistle. Never after. He also has that ability to get into the defenders head.

I absolutely LOVE having a tough little WR that makes the defense keep THEIR heads on a swivel. I think you would too.[/quote]


We do have that guy. His names Derrick Mason. Hes played for weeks for a bad shoulder, virtually one handed. Defenses still have to have their head on a swivel to guard him, and he isn't a cheep player. I'll take him over Hines Ward anyday

[Murph]

[quote name='SuggsNotDrugs' post='130279' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:17 PM'][b]considering injuries?[/b] hahaha Steelers fans talking about injuries. Because we didn't have any right? D.Williams isn't on the IR. Most of our O-Line isn't on IR. Most of our recieving corps (Mason, Heap) aren't banged up, that's the reason why it happened, because of your injuries, not because of Flacco's talent, and Ben's declining performance due to the massive number of hits he takes......right....

like i said, your fans are delusional[/quote]

I meant Ben's shoulder. His throwing shoulder was hurt most of the year and he did not have a very good year because of it. So that is why I am not surprised at Flacco's rating being higher.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='dpatrickguy' post='130282' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:19 PM']We do have that guy. His names Derrick Mason. Hes played for weeks for a bad shoulder, virtually one handed. Defenses still have to have their head on a swivel to guard him, and he isn't a cheep player. I'll take him over Hines Ward anyday[/quote]

I've always had a lot of respect for Mason (long before he was a Raven). However, he and Hines are different WR's and I was more speaking of Hines keeping defenders paranoid of the pancake.

[H8R]

THE STILLERS ARE THE BEST TEAM EVER.-StillerFanBoiNutSwingerz