Heiz Ward Talkin Smack!

[SteelCurtainD88]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' date='Jan 14 2009, 08:58 PM' post='129725']
Seriously, they are TOO confident. Which makes ME more confident that we can beat them. Keep talkin trash Steelers, we're saving our energy for the FEILD.

If they didnt have the refs in their back pocket on there 2 wins,we wouldnt be having this discussion, an OT feild goal and a Controversal TD?

Last I heard the Titans handed the Steelers there asses, We played them twice this season and hmmmm.. cant say they did the same to us.


Lets not talk about having the refs in anyones pocket If you ask me were even about now. You may not even be in this coming game if it wasn't for the ref screwing up a delay of game penalty. We are [b]BOTH[/b] going into this game being on the lucky end of some calls.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='Zhamtao' post='129865' date='Jan 14 2009, 10:40 PM']I think Hines Ward is a very good WR - he finds a way and I'd be happy to have him - all except the cheap junk. I don't think Hines is anything like these guys, so don't think I'm comparing the scope, but I don't care how talented Pac-Man or T.O., their attitudes suck. To a much lesser degree I don't like the instigation crap. I love the hits he delivers... [b]just not the Oscar winning fall downs (see Sand Diego game)[/b] and the laughing it up. Act like you've been there and if you've got something to say, do it while you're in the guy's face, not while you're running to the sideline.[/quote]

If you're talking about the late hit out of bounds, then I think you're mistaken. That was WELL after he was out of bounds. Even if he could have remained on his feet (which I'm not so sure of) why would he?

Not sure if you remember but, we lost to TEN in 2002 and their kicker (Nedney) admitted that he should "be an actor." He missed the FG, got bumped and went into this over-exagerated twist to the ground. THAT was some acting and I think I still hate him for it.

[pits200]

Kneecaps are full of jelly jones and crackers but jibblies and jubblies are never the same.

Don't ever forget that.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

[quote name='dmo21' post='129730' date='Jan 14 2009, 07:01 PM']Are you seriously blaming the fact that your "vaunted" D gave up a 92 yard TD drive in the 4th quarter on the refs? That's pretty pathetic. Kind of like your big, bad D's "bounty" on Hines.[/quote]
or wards "clean" hits.... real men keep their heads up. tell giggles ward to stop spearing. oh and your mayor is a dumb arse

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='thewarden86' post='129877' date='Jan 14 2009, 10:47 PM']If you're talking about the late hit out of bounds, then I think you're mistaken. That was WELL after he was out of bounds. Even if he could have remained on his feet (which I'm not so sure of) why would he?

Not sure if you remember but, we lost to TEN in 2002 and their kicker (Nedney) admitted that he should "be an actor." He missed the FG, got bumped and went into this over-exagerated twist to the ground. THAT was some acting and I think I still hate him for it. [/quote]

I meant the late hit - yup. He would have gone down anyway but as he goes down you see him absolutely speed up the fall and flop. It was actually kinda' funny because by that point the game was over... The flag was getting thrown anyway, but he dove into it for the drama. I think the shame is the guy doesn't need to do it to be a good player. It makes me wonder where he learned to be so dramatic.

[shaikh015]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='129731' date='Jan 14 2009, 09:03 PM']Yea, let me tell ya.. they ALWAYS beat us. I remember the season when we beat YOU both times we played each other, Once was a shutout and the other should have been..I think it was what only 1 td on the board? I give you your win in 2007 but the last game of the season we beat you. This season you have played us twice and neither game has been CLOSE to a shutout. [/quote]
Yeah I totally agree with you on this one...Wasn't it the season we had McNair starting QB......

[shaikh015]

[quote name='thewarden86' post='129846' date='Jan 14 2009, 10:26 PM']Hines does get the crap knocked out of him weekly. He doesn't cry about it and he plays to the whistle. Never after. He also has that ability to get into the defenders head.

I absolutely LOVE having a tough little WR that makes the defense keep THEIR heads on a swivel. I think you would too.[/quote]
I know it's apple and oranges..If you compare the quality of players Hines ward vs Ed Reed...

Hands down Ed Reed is better....
Makes a hell of a mentor to the safety's and the cornerbacks we got coming down the line...

Raven Football Forever
We come from the North
We come with fire.....

[PIG 20]

[quote name='dmo21' post='129751' date='Jan 14 2009, 09:21 PM']I don't think the RAVENS are mediocre at all. TBH I am very nervous for this game and believe that whichever team doesn't turn it over will win. It's always a war between the Steelers and Ravens. I've never been more excited to go to a game at Heinz Field (and I haven't missed a game in 6 yrs). Although the thought of seeing the Ravens celebrate on our field...that makes me want to puke.

GO STEELERS.[/quote]

Worse than the Patriots doing it twice to you guys on your own field?

[thewarden86]

[quote name='shaikh015' post='130028' date='Jan 15 2009, 03:11 AM']I know it's apple and oranges..If you compare the quality of players Hines ward vs Ed Reed...

Hands down Ed Reed is better....
Makes a hell of a mentor to the safety's and the cornerbacks we got coming down the line...

Raven Football Forever
We come from the North
We come with fire.....[/quote]

For the record; I wasn't insinuating any comments about Ed Reed. I agree that it's apples and oranges...Heck, it'd be apples and oranges to compare Ward to many other WR's. But I also agree that Ed Reed in an awesome football player. No question about it.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='PIG 20' post='130039' date='Jan 15 2009, 07:39 AM']Worse than the Patriots doing it twice to you guys on your own field?[/quote]


Not worse than twice, but definitely worse than either one of those.

[NWNewell-Yinzer]

[quote name='Zhamtao' post='129840' date='Jan 14 2009, 10:22 PM']Hines Ward is rarely making hits 'in the mix'. When someone knocks his face mask through the back of his head, you're all going to cry about helmet-to-helmet...

Just don't be surprised when someone does it to him and don't cry when it happens - as much as he flees the real crunch-time situations... It will eventually happen.[/quote]

In the mix? He's a WR. He should never be 'in the mix'. He's not playing on the line. His blocks should always be down field, on the edges, in open space in the areas where his routes are run.

Let's not be hypocritical. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-JDGxfAyY8"][color="#0000FF"]This hit[/color][/url] by Lewis was no worse than any of Hines hits. He hit up high and his helmet hit the other players helmet. And that hit is revered by you guys (as it should be, it was a hell of a hit).

Only difference is you have a 200lbs wide receiver laying the wood to a 240lbs Linebacker. But I understand.... bullies don't like to be bullied. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SXPbQfoP7o"][color="#0000FF"]So Bart Scott runs away crying now[/color][/url].

If he wasn't just a bully [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_POGGZEspA"][color="#0000FF"]this is how they would handle wards crack-back block[/color][/url].

That's why your defense is playing second fiddle to ours in every statistical category (except INT's, I think).

[SteelRules]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='129725' date='Jan 14 2009, 08:58 PM']Seriously, they are TOO confident. Which makes ME more confident that we can beat them. Keep talkin trash Steelers, we're saving our energy for the FEILD.

If they didnt have the refs in their back pocket on there 2 wins,we wouldnt be having this discussion, an OT feild goal and a Controversal TD?

Last I heard the Titans handed the Steelers there asses, We played them twice this season and hmmmm.. cant say they did the same to us.[/quote]
How were the reefs in the Steelers pocket in the OT game? Did the ref sack Flucco? Did the umpire fumble the ball for the TD? Did the head linesman kick the winning field goal?
In the second game, the ref felt after watching the replay that the ball broke the plane, and subsequent replays and analysis shows HE WAS RIGHT!
I've never heard so much whining over a correct call!
When are you going to realize that in two tough games this year, Pittsburgh came out on top, legitimately and fairly.
Ravens fans, you're really sad.

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='SteelRules' post='130160' date='Jan 15 2009, 11:07 AM']How were the reefs in the Steelers pocket in the OT game? Did the ref sack Flucco? Did the umpire fumble the ball for the TD? Did the head linesman kick the winning field goal?
In the second game, the ref felt after watching the replay that the ball broke the plane, and subsequent replays and analysis shows HE WAS RIGHT!
I've never heard so much whining over a correct call!
When are you going to realize that in two tough games this year, Pittsburgh came out on top, legitimately and fairly.
Ravens fans, you're really sad.[/quote]

Althought I agree with you on that a lot of my fellow ravens fans have been whining too much, it still stands that it was a matter of whether the video showed INCONCLUSIVE INCONCLUSIVE evidence, everyone agrees that it was not. The fact still remains we should not have given up the 92 yards. But PLEASE PLEASE don't us we are sad when steelers fans are consider scum (save for some good ones) league wide.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='SteelRules' post='130160' date='Jan 15 2009, 11:07 AM']How were the reefs in the Steelers pocket in the OT game? Did the ref sack Flucco? Did the umpire fumble the ball for the TD? Did the head linesman kick the winning field goal?
In the second game, the ref felt after watching the replay that the ball broke the plane, and subsequent replays and analysis shows HE WAS RIGHT!
I've never heard so much whining over a correct call!
When are you going to realize that in two tough games this year, Pittsburgh came out on top, legitimately and fairly.
Ravens fans, you're really sad.[/quote]


Now, let me put this out there upfront.I'm not saying the ball didn't break the plane of the goal line, It might have. It was incredibly close.But the point is the call on the field should not have been overturned. It was one of those plays where whatever call was made on the field should stand. There simply was not enough evidence to reverse the call, whichever way it was initially ruled.Eariler in the game the Steelers had a 3rd & 1 from their own 29-yard line. Russell took it up the middle but tackled by Ngata and Ray. It looked like he was stopped about a half yard short of the marker but the line judge gave the steelers the 1st. Harbs challanged the call and the refs took another look Multiple TV replays seemed to show Russell getting stood up short of the 30-yard line, but the positioning of the cameras did not allow Coleman a definitive angle showing Russell's forward progress getting stopped. It sure looked to everyone watching like the Steelers were short, but Coleman did not see conclusive visual evidence. So he couldn't reverse the call.

The refs can't have it both ways. If there wasn't an angle providing clear evidence to reverse the call the first time around, Coleman sure didn't have it on the Steelers' late touchdown.

For the replay system to work, there has to be consistency. That night there was none.

Neither play necessarily lost the Ravens the game we should never have put the refs in that position. This defense knows allowing a 92-yard drive with the game on the line just isn't acceptable.


Im not whining, just stating facts about the Refs, I dont blame the Steelers but in the end the refs have to learn how to officiate an ENTIRE game the same way.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='SteelRules' post='130160' date='Jan 15 2009, 11:07 AM']How were the reefs in the Steelers pocket in the OT game? Did the ref sack Flucco? Did the umpire fumble the ball for the TD? Did the head linesman kick the winning field goal?
In the second game, the ref felt after watching the replay that the ball broke the plane, and subsequent replays and analysis shows HE WAS RIGHT!
I've never heard so much whining over a correct call!
When are you going to realize that in two tough games this year, Pittsburgh came out on top, legitimately and fairly.
Ravens fans, you're really sad.[/quote]


Now, let me put this out there upfront.I'm not saying the ball didn't break the plane of the goal line, It might have. It was incredibly close.But the point is the call on the field should not have been overturned. It was one of those plays where whatever call was made on the field should stand. There simply was not enough evidence to reverse the call, whichever way it was initially ruled.Eariler in the game the Steelers had a 3rd & 1 from their own 29-yard line. Russell took it up the middle but tackled by Ngata and Ray. It looked like he was stopped about a half yard short of the marker but the line judge gave the steelers the 1st. Harbs challanged the call and the refs took another look Multiple TV replays seemed to show Russell getting stood up short of the 30-yard line, but the positioning of the cameras did not allow Coleman a definitive angle showing Russell's forward progress getting stopped. It sure looked to everyone watching like the Steelers were short, but Coleman did not see conclusive visual evidence. So he couldn't reverse the call.

The refs can't have it both ways. If there wasn't an angle providing clear evidence to reverse the call the first time around, Coleman sure didn't have it on the Steelers' late touchdown.

For the replay system to work, there has to be consistency. That night there was none.

Neither play necessarily lost the Ravens the game we should never have put the refs in that position. This defense knows allowing a 92-yard drive with the game on the line just isn't acceptable.


Im not whining, just stating facts about the Refs, I dont blame the Steelers but in the end the refs have to learn how to officiate an ENTIRE game the same way.

[Steelerkillers]

[quote name='dmo21' post='129720' date='Jan 14 2009, 08:54 PM']I love how the "biggest, baddest" defense in the world puts a bounty on a little receiver and they can't even carry it out. Hines Ward owns the Ravens.

GO STEELERS.[/quote]
the only thing he owns is a Restaurant in a shopping mall foodcourt selling sweet&sour chicken.if thats the case, Bart Scott Owns Little Ben and as a Defense we own Willie Paker!!!!!!!

[NapaSteelerFan]

[quote name='NWNewell-Yinzer' post='130102' date='Jan 15 2009, 06:51 AM']In the mix? He's a WR. He should never be 'in the mix'. He's not playing on the line. His blocks should always be down field, on the edges, in open space in the areas where his routes are run.

Let's not be hypocritical. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-JDGxfAyY8"][color="#0000FF"]This hit[/color][/url] by Lewis was no worse than any of Hines hits. He hit up high and his helmet hit the other players helmet. And that hit is revered by you guys (as it should be, it was a hell of a hit).

Only difference is you have a 200lbs wide receiver laying the wood to a 240lbs Linebacker. But I understand.... bullies don't like to be bullied. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SXPbQfoP7o"][color="#0000FF"]So Bart Scott runs away crying now[/color][/url].

If he wasn't just a bully [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_POGGZEspA"][color="#0000FF"]this is how they would handle wards crack-back block[/color][/url].

That's why your defense is playing second fiddle to ours in every statistical category (except INT's, I think).[/quote]

Best post of the day!!! Funny no responses to this one from Ravens fans.
I loved seeing how Scott handles the crackback (dives out of the way like a ****) vs the way Harrison handles it (laying the WR out)!
Fabulous

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='NWNewell-Yinzer' post='130102' date='Jan 15 2009, 09:51 AM']In the mix? He's a WR. He should never be 'in the mix'. He's not playing on the line. His blocks should always be down field, on the edges, in open space in the areas where his routes are run.

Let's not be hypocritical. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-JDGxfAyY8"][color="#0000FF"]This hit[/color][/url] by Lewis was no worse than any of Hines hits. He hit up high and his helmet hit the other players helmet. And that hit is revered by you guys (as it should be, it was a hell of a hit).

Only difference is you have a 200lbs wide receiver laying the wood to a 240lbs Linebacker. But I understand.... bullies don't like to be bullied. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SXPbQfoP7o"][color="#0000FF"]So Bart Scott runs away crying now[/color][/url].

If he wasn't just a bully [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_POGGZEspA"][color="#0000FF"]this is how they would handle wards crack-back block[/color][/url].

That's why your defense is playing second fiddle to ours in every statistical category (except INT's, I think).[/quote]


ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!? REALLY, your comparing a head up the two guys are looking at each other hit where ray hit him with his SHOULDER (Hence the popping sound) because the guy took to his FEET (which is why the hit was high) to ward who just cherry picks (again I respect the guy but thats what he does).

T.J. Housman something tried the same thing when the ravens played the bengals and Ray Layed him out. T.J. said he had a headache afterwards dont believe me [url="http://www.bengals.com/media/"]http://www.bengals.com/media/[/url] look up the T.J. interview on page 2 after the ravens.

You say second fiddle as if we are soooo far off. We are 2nd in rushing yards by 24 yds, in passing yards by 23 (with a banged up secondary all-season) and you are not even the top rush defense, Minnesota is. Your second and we are third to you by 1.2 friggin yards!!!! all with our starting NT (gregg) out and playing with out a full healthy defense. Get outta here troll.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='NapaSteelerFan' post='130196' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:03 PM']Best post of the day!!! Funny no responses to this one from Ravens fans.
I loved seeing how Scott handles the crackback (dives out of the way like a ****) vs the way Harrison handles it (laying the WR out)!
Fabulous[/quote]

That Harrison vid was sweeeet.

[NapaSteelerFan]

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130197' date='Jan 15 2009, 09:04 AM']ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!? REALLY, your comparing a head up the two guys are looking at each other hit where ray hit him with his SHOULDER (Hence the popping sound) because the guy took to his FEET (which is why the hit was high) to ward who just cherry picks (again I respect the guy but thats what he does).[/quote]

Is this heads up enough for you? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoB7CgajP5s"]Link[/url]

[Chi_Town_Raven]

Just tell me why, does anyone care about last year and beyond!??!! Its a NEW SEASON!!!!! It doesn't matter if you won every superbowl before now, it dosn't mean ither team has a better chance of winning! And to the Raven fans who say e eat you last year, that wasn't a real game, okay? It was battle of the backups, and we managed to have more points!

[NWNewell-Yinzer]

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130197' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:04 PM']ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!? REALLY, your comparing a head up the two guys are looking at each other hit where ray hit him with his SHOULDER (Hence the popping sound) because the guy took to his FEET (which is why the hit was high) to ward who just cherry picks (again I respect the guy but thats what he does).[/quote]

Yeah, it was all shoulderpad to sholderpad, that's why his helmet flew off. We'll go with that.

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130197' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:04 PM']T.J. Housman something tried the same thing when the ravens played the bengals and Ray Layed him out. T.J. said he had a headache afterwards dont believe me [url="http://www.bengals.com/media/"]http://www.bengals.com/media/[/url] look up the T.J. interview on page 2 after the ravens.[/quote]

Ray Lewis is a beast. I'll give you that. (Him and Reed: I have a lot of respect for what they do) I'd love to have him on my team despite everything. But we're not talking about a whoosy Cinncy receiver trying to throw a block.

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130197' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:04 PM']You say second fiddle as if we are soooo far off. We are 2nd in rushing yards by 24 yds, in passing yards by 23 (with a banged up secondary all-season) and you are not even the top rush defense, Minnesota is. Your second and we are third to you by 1.2 friggin yards!!!! all with our starting NT (gregg) out and playing with out a full healthy defense. Get outta here troll.[/quote]

Considering 40 yards separates #2 from #10, yes, 24 yards between #1 and #2 is a lot.

True we are not #1 in rushing. Minnesota does have that title. Buy the last I checked, the Ravens are not from Minnesota. So, what is your point. It was still better than the Ravens.

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='NapaSteelerFan' post='130202' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:08 PM']Is this heads up enough for you? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoB7CgajP5s"]Link[/url][/quote]

Is This
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIXQzY-TEw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIXQzY-TEw[/url]

and This

[url="http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b3f90c"]http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b3f90c[/url]

[steelball]

[quote name='FortheloveofRavens' post='130197' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:04 PM']You say second fiddle as if we are soooo far off. We are 2nd in rushing yards by 24 yds, in passing yards by 23 (with a banged up secondary all-season) and you are not even the top rush defense, Minnesota is. Your second and we are third to you by 1.2 friggin yards!!!! all with our starting NT (gregg) out and playing with out a full healthy defense. Get outta here troll.[/quote]

That's 23 yards passing PER GAME, not total. Steelers have had starters out due to injury - all teams have. They don't make excuses for it, why should you?

[pits200]

That Harrison vs Bart Scott comparison has to be pretty heart breaking to watch as a Ravens fan. Seriously, if I saw Harrison do that, I would have a new outlook on him. Because that's terrible to see how they both handled it so much different.

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='NWNewell-Yinzer' post='130216' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:17 PM']Yeah, it was all *** to ***, that's why his helmet flew off. We'll go with that.



Ray Lewis is a beast. I'll give you that. I'd love to have him on my team despite everything. But we're not talking about a whoosy Cinncy receiver trying to throw a block.



Considering 40 yards separates #2 from #10, yes, 24 yards between #1 and #2 is a lot.

True we are not #1 in rushing. Minnesota does have that title. Buy the last I checked, the Ravens are not from Minnesota. So, what is your point. It was still better than the Ravens.[/quote]

DUDE take the Steel Curtain of your face the hit was not Helmet to Helmet, don't you think that at least the announcers would have said something over the sportscenter anaylst. Its funny how NO ONE else thinks it was a helmet to helmet hit (not even the titans said anything) but the all-knowing steelers fans says it was.

The hit by james harrison was against the cowboys so whats your point?

ITS 1.2 FRIGGIN YARDS with a banged up defense, now your just being petty. and we are still better than the squeelers in takeaways which can have a much bigger impact than 1 rushing yard (just ask the titans) so take your rushing title by 1.2 yards and we'll keep the takeaways.

[pits200]

As for the Big Ben hit, it's easy to hit someone when they aren't hitting you back.

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='steelball' post='130221' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:22 PM']That's 23 yards passing PER GAME, not total. Steelers have had starters out due to injury - all teams have. They don't make excuses for it, why should you?[/quote]

Nobody making excuses, I was making a point that we gave up 23 yards passing per game even with a banged up secondary which makes it even more of an accomplishment. Im pretty sure the steelers didn't have their starting pro-bowl corner out and pro-bowl caliber safety out and STILL lead the league in takeovers. Thats makes the accomplishment greater.

[Steelerkillers]

[quote name='dmo21' post='129730' date='Jan 14 2009, 09:01 PM']Are you seriously blaming the fact that your "vaunted" D gave up a 92 yard TD drive in the 4th quarter on the refs? That's pretty pathetic. Kind of like your big, bad D's "bounty" on Hines.[/quote]
you must don't understand the mechanics of football.you must have no knowledge of how momentum works.you must not understand how penalties at a crucial part of a game can totally turn things around. Look at the Colts/Chargers game,and our previous match-up with the Titans.Oh,of course, our games against the Steelers/opportunists.You guys don't win most of your games by dominating, your wins come by opportunity(often).I can give yall that much credit.We or the Refs (Handed) yall the games and yall politely took'em. Not to mention teams with losing records scoring 2+ TD's on yall.Explain that Mr#1 Defense!!One more thing,Don't act like the Colts didn't (Drive) down the field to Take a game away from yall at home.And I know yall are already counting this upcoming game as a victory because yall feel that yall dodged a bullet when the Titans lost.Believe me,yall didnt want them again.yall figured we would be the easier match-up.If we can beat the Titans hurt&tired,we most definitely can prevail against yall.so,look at history and stop Frontin like yall sumthin special!!!

[FortheloveofRavens]

[quote name='pits200' post='130225' date='Jan 15 2009, 12:24 PM']As for the Big Ben hit, it's easy to hit someone when they aren't hitting you back.[/quote]

NO FRIGGIN DUH!!!!. Its pretty easy to do it when no ones is LOOKING.