[News] Late For Work 8/2: What ACL Tear? Joe Flacco Surprises With Elusiveness, Jokes And Screaming

[BR News]

Kamalei Correa isn't a lock for the starting job … yet. Terrance West and Benjamin Watson stand out. Michael Campanaro's day off speaks volumes. Flying tennis balls at practice.

View the full article

[b93333]

Best move might be to concentrate on using Reynolds primarily as a returner this year... it would give him time to develop as a receiver and would keep Camp from getting hurt on returns.

[billiejean]

Has anyone looked at that final drive video? From around 35sec to 40sec it zooms in on Kamalei Correa and quite frankly he looks fat. It could be padding though, but if not his belly is bigger than Courtney Upshaws. He could stand to loose a few pounds to gain some speed. He just looks extremely top heavy to me.

[Ravensfansince03]

Has anyone looked at that final drive video? From around 35sec to 40sec it zooms in on Kamalei Correa and quite frankly he looks fat. It could be padding though, but if not his belly is bigger than Courtney Upshaws. He could stand to loose a few pounds to gain some speed. He just looks extremely top heavy to me.

I was in the stands during the practice, he looks absolutely great, intimidating. Idk about him looking fat, but I know some people even said Ray Lewis looked fat in his uniform on tv.

[Ravensfansince03]

Flacco ran down the sideline yes, but all the players knew not to hit or even rough him up in any way. So i don't agree with the hype. It's practice so I'd rather see him give the receiver a chance, just saying.

[Ravensfansince03]

Wish we could have got Ed Reed. I know they will get the Legend "Lewis" if he ever decides to pursue coaching.

[Ravensfansince03]

DANNGG!, Chris Matthews looked great, now a walking boot??. I hope its nothing serious.

 

Baltimore is going to LOVE Weddle Lol

[KidNme]

Joe has taken the next step in his "elite-ness".
He's a lot more comfortable with commanding this team now so I think it will translate on the field more than ever this year. Can't wait!

[sami]

Best move might be to concentrate on using Reynolds primarily as a returner this year... it would give him time to develop as a receiver and would keep Camp from getting hurt on returns.

I think the best move would be to put him on PS.

[KidNme]

I for one, love Correa's attitude. He's gotta be smart but him crushing a WR is a good thing, that's what he's supposed to do and there's no doubt in my mind that we drafted him for that nasty streak. It will bode well for him during the season. Dennis shouldn't expect kid gloves, he's made the decision to play football but if Correa is hitting after the whistle, he needs to chill out on that and try not to hurt anyone in a Ravens jersey :-)
All in all though, I like this kids moxy!

[sami]

DANNGG!, Chris Matthews looked great, now a walking boot??. I hope its nothing serious.

Chris MOORE, the rookie, has the walking boot. Chris MATTHEWS is fine

[eze17]

  1 hour ago, b93333 said:

Best move might be to concentrate on using Reynolds primarily as a returner this year... it would give him time to develop as a receiver and would keep Camp from getting hurt on returns.

I think the best move would be to put him on PS.

I think Reynolds would be snatched off the PS quick. Several reports had the patriots very high on him, possibly they would have drafted him in the 7th round if he was still there. He seems like one of those prospects that coach belicheck likes to keep on his roster: young guy with great athletisism and can play various positions all across the field. The Pats are a good enough team that they could afford to stash him on their active roster if they believe he has NFL potential. So I think you risk losing him if he gets cut.

[The Mom Gene]

That's what scares me.  This guy has a ton of potential.  I always fear letting a young guy like that go, and then seeing them a year or two from now on another team torching us.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I think because Joe has got the contract he does and because he is the leader of what the Ravens are trying to transition to, an offensive minded team, that he should display his leadership a bit more.

I know he's got a fire in him because of an incident years ago with Derrick Mason. Mason came over to Joe and yelled at him for something, probably not getting him the ball most likely. Joe stood up and got right in his face and started yelling back at Mason. It got so heated that coaches had to come over and break the two apart, and Flacco was still jawing at Mason.

I'm not saying he's got to be all yelly and screamy all the time. He is a veteran now, this is his offense, and now with Ray Lewis gone, this is essentially his team now. If he doesn't start stepping up and piloting the ship, who will?

[EdTheMythicalOne]

6 hours ago, eze17 said:

7 hours ago, sami said:

  1 hour ago, b93333 said:

Best move might be to concentrate on using Reynolds primarily as a returner this year... it would give him time to develop as a receiver and would keep Camp from getting hurt on returns.

I think the best move would be to put him on PS.

I think Reynolds would be snatched off the PS quick. Several reports had the patriots very high on him, possibly they would have drafted him in the 7th round if he was still there. He seems like one of those prospects that coach belicheck likes to keep on his roster: young guy with great athletisism and can play various positions all across the field. The Pats are a good enough team that they could afford to stash him on their active roster if they believe he has NFL potential. So I think you risk losing him if he gets cut.

If Reynolds keeps proving he can't catch and he's a liability on the return team because he's fumbling kicks and punts, then I doubt seriously many teams will want him that much. They'd realize he's at least a season away from helping you.

And this is how the Practice Squad works. In order for us to put Reynolds on the practice squad we first have to "release" him and expose him to waivers. If another team claims him, he can then be placed on that team's practice squad or active roster.

If Reynolds passes waivers and we put him on our practice squad, another team could sign him as if he was a free agent, but only if they sign him and put him on their active roster. Now, the active roster part is important because the NFL roster is 53 players. But the active roster for game day I think is only 46 players.

At this point if some other team wants Reynolds, so be it. He was a 7th round pick and had a tough chance at cracking this team anyway.

One person doesn't like the way the practice squad works apparently.

Edited August 2, 2016 by EdTheMythicalOne

[EdTheMythicalOne]

6 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

That's what scares me.  This guy has a ton of potential.  I always fear letting a young guy like that go, and then seeing them a year or two from now on another team torching us.

A ton of potential based upon what? He was an undersized running QB in college. He never took a snap at WR or as a return specialist. I think people are getting a little too carried away on the hype train here.

I see one person doesn't like facts.

Edited August 2, 2016 by EdTheMythicalOne

[rmcjacket23]

  1 hour ago, sami said:

  2 hours ago, b93333 said:

Best move might be to concentrate on using Reynolds primarily as a returner this year... it would give him time to develop as a receiver and would keep Camp from getting hurt on returns.

I think the best move would be to put him on PS.

I think Reynolds would be snatched off the PS quick. Several reports had the patriots very high on him, possibly they would have drafted him in the 7th round if he was still there. He seems like one of those prospects that coach belicheck likes to keep on his roster: young guy with great athletisism and can play various positions all across the field. The Pats are a good enough team that they could afford to stash him on their active roster if they believe he has NFL potential. So I think you risk losing him if he gets cut.

But its sort of contradictory to say "this team loved him in the draft", and follow that up by saying "they would have taken him in the 7th round".

If a team absolutely loves a player, there's really no chance he makes it to the 7th round. You can like a player or think he has upside, but 6th round picks and definitely 7th round picks having major impact in this league isn't exactly common. If you go back and look at the history of the Ravens draft picks in these rounds, they are chalk full of a bunch of nobodies.

The problem I have with this line of thinking is that, by definition, if we don't think he's good enough to be on the 53 man roster, we are voluntarily deciding to cut a BETTER player, purely for the speculation that this guy may be something good several years from now.

To me, that's precisely what the PS is for. A 53 man roster is thin enough when you start accounting for injuries. I don't think we are in a position to be using valuable roster space on a project player who we don't think is good enough to play on Sunday's. If he's one of the best 53, then he should make the team. If he's not, then I'm not losing any sleep if he doesn't make it.

[fluffy201]

  1 hour ago, sami said:

  2 hours ago, b93333 said:

Best move might be to concentrate on using Reynolds primarily as a returner this year... it would give him time to develop as a receiver and would keep Camp from getting hurt on returns.

I think the best move would be to put him on PS.

I think Reynolds would be snatched off the PS quick. Several reports had the patriots very high on him, possibly they would have drafted him in the 7th round if he was still there. He seems like one of those prospects that coach belicheck likes to keep on his roster: young guy with great athletisism and can play various positions all across the field. The Pats are a good enough team that they could afford to stash him on their active roster if they believe he has NFL potential. So I think you risk losing him if he gets cut.

I know, but who really cares. I mean I wish the guy the best, but there aren't too many 6th rounders that come to a team and win a starting spot immediately. Hence why he is a 6th round pick. Not sure what all the fuss is about with him, if he does great great if he doesn't oh well. Wish him the best though.

[J.O.14]

I for one, love Correa's attitude. He's gotta be smart but him crushing a WR is a good thing, that's what he's supposed to do and there's no doubt in my mind that we drafted him for that nasty streak. It will bode well for him during the season. Dennis shouldn't expect kid gloves, he's made the decision to play football but if Correa is hitting after the whistle, he needs to chill out on that and try not to hurt anyone in a Ravens jersey :-)
All in all though, I like this kids moxy!

Pitta and Wallace understand how football is played. You don't smack your teammates like that in training camp though. One time? Okay you're a rookie we understand. He should have gotten the hint after Pitta went at him, considering I have never heard of Pitta doing that before. Then he decides to lay out possibly one of our most important weapons in Mike Wallace? Come on. Guys are trying to get through camp without injuries, and having a rookie linebacker laying out guys in training camp lowers those chances. I'm sure Flacco made that point known to him. I like the aggression he has and the way he is flying around the field, but you protect your own.

[eze17]

I'm not saying "gee, I really think Reynolds has a lot of potential, we should keep him at all costs"...If he shows that he can play up to his expectations, great, put him on the 53 man roster. If he looks vulnerable and can't help the team you release him and give that roster spot to a more deserving player.

My point is that I don't think he would make it to our practice squad. No team was willing to take him in the earlier rounds because he obviously is unpolished. I think teams were looking at him in the 6th-7th rounds, as that's where you want to draft raw guys with the potential to develop after a year or two. The Ravens decided to go with a 6th rounder and jumped some teams that may have been willing to take him as a project with their last pick.

I think the Ravens will give him every opportunity to at least be our returner. He is definitely on the bubble, and will have to show that he deserves a slot on the active roster. I just think there's other teams that will be willing to give him a shot if we don't.

[berad]

Joe Flex has his swagger on a hundred thousand trillion - love it... Loved Billick stopping by camp, too, he's smart and also has his Billick swagger lol... This is excited, football can't come soon enough.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

But its sort of contradictory to say "this team loved him in the draft", and follow that up by saying "they would have taken him in the 7th round".

If a team absolutely loves a player, there's really no chance he makes it to the 7th round. You can like a player or think he has upside, but 6th round picks and definitely 7th round picks having major impact in this league isn't exactly common. If you go back and look at the history of the Ravens draft picks in these rounds, they are chalk full of a bunch of nobodies.

The problem I have with this line of thinking is that, by definition, if we don't think he's good enough to be on the 53 man roster, we are voluntarily deciding to cut a BETTER player, purely for the speculation that this guy may be something good several years from now.

To me, that's precisely what the PS is for. A 53 man roster is thin enough when you start accounting for injuries. I don't think we are in a position to be using valuable roster space on a project player who we don't think is good enough to play on Sunday's. If he's one of the best 53, then he should make the team. If he's not, then I'm not losing any sleep if he doesn't make it.

Exactly my point that some people seemingly have a problem with. The guy was a stud in college, but he's not going to play QB in this league. He is a project player in the NFL at WR/KR/PR considering he's NEVER done it before at all. If you aren't catching the ball in practice and you're fumbling kicks and punts in practice; which by the way, has been reported here, then you're not going to make the team.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

2 hours ago, eze17 said:

I'm not saying "gee, I really think Reynolds has a lot of potential, we should keep him at all costs"...If he shows that he can play up to his expectations, great, put him on the 53 man roster. If he looks vulnerable and can't help the team you release him and give that roster spot to a more deserving player.

My point is that I don't think he would make it to our practice squad. No team was willing to take him in the earlier rounds because he obviously is unpolished. I think teams were looking at him in the 6th-7th rounds, as that's where you want to draft raw guys with the potential to develop after a year or two. The Ravens decided to go with a 6th rounder and jumped some teams that may have been willing to take him as a project with their last pick.

I think the Ravens will give him every opportunity to at least be our returner. He is definitely on the bubble, and will have to show that he deserves a slot on the active roster. I just think there's other teams that will be willing to give him a shot if we don't.

And I don't think there is much of a market for him currently. That could very well change if he shows improvement and proves himself in pre season, but if that's the case then we don't have to worry about the PS anyway because the Ravens would keep him. If he continues to struggle I think other teams in the NFL have enough concerns that they won't want to carry a guy who isn't catching the ball and his main upside then is as a return man.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

3 hours ago, J.O.14 said:

Pitta and Wallace understand how football is played. You don't smack your teammates like that in training camp though. One time? Okay you're a rookie we understand. He should have gotten the hint after Pitta went at him, considering I have never heard of Pitta doing that before. Then he decides to lay out possibly one of our most important weapons in Mike Wallace? Come on. Guys are trying to get through camp without injuries, and having a rookie linebacker laying out guys in training camp lowers those chances. I'm sure Flacco made that point known to him. I like the aggression he has and the way he is flying around the field, but you protect your own.

Which is why I find it a bit curious I haven't read of any veteran taking Onwausor to task for doing this in practice. The difference between Correa and Onwausor is that I hear Correa's name mentioned along with also making good plays. All I hear about Onwasor is that he hit Dixon late, hurt him, and stood over him after the shot, he's hitting guys late, and he seems to be getting into a fight with regularity. He's gonna push the wrong guy and they'll put him in his place sooner or later. Coaches better straighten him out.

[mearzunkies]

Best move might be to concentrate on using Reynolds primarily as a returner this year... it would give him time to develop as a receiver and would keep Camp from getting hurt on returns.

In a perfect world with plenty of roster spots. You would be correct..

[EdTheMythicalOne]

12 hours ago, mearzunkies said:

In a perfect world with plenty of roster spots. You would be correct..

The Ravens are looking for guys that can be special team players, but also more than that. Roster spots are too valuable to give to guys who can just do one thing and that's it. We learned that last year. The Ravens have a lot of bodies at WR and TE and we can't keep all of them.

WR:

Steve Smith Sr. :He makes the team if he's healthy and says he can play.

Mike Wallace: He makes the team, they paid the man

Breshard Perriman: If he's healthy he's on the roster.

Kamar Aiken: On paper he's the top receiver from last year and the most dependable..on paper.

Chris Moore: 4th round speedster will not slip and make the PS, he makes the roster.

Michael Campanaro: Shifty slot receiver with return skills, he makes the team if he can stay off of IR.

Keenan Reynolds: 7th rounder, WR/KR/PR experiment. If Camp is good to go, they don't need him

Kaelin Clay: WR in name only, return specialist only. Same situation as Reynolds.

Jeremy Butler: Ravens like him a lot, stepped in and saw some decent production in playing time last season.

Chris Matthews: Tree that is a SB hero, has done absolutely nothing since then. Don't see him making the team.

am I leaving anyone out here?

TE:

Dennis Pitta: If he's healthy, he makes the team. Can't believe he's actually an option though. Tough as nails.

Maxx Williams: 2nd round pick from last year, he makes it.

Ben Watson: Just paid the man in FA, he's on the roster.

Crockett Gillmore: Really banged up from last year and so far this season, chance he might be on PUP. Have to think the Ravens find a way to put him on the roster if he's healthy though. Best blocker on the team at the position.

Nick Boyle: Suspended 10 games, I think he's a cut once he's able to come back but that depends on what the roster looks like at the time.

Darren Waller: Suspended 4 games. I think he presents a matchup nightmare at TE, he can also still slot out wide. Also contributes on special teams. Lobngshot to make the roster but I am sure the Ravens will try. He is practice squad eligible.

Daniel Brown: Converting over from WR he's a long shot to make the roster as well.

 

I could see the Ravens going with 10 roster spots between the WR/TE group and you can slice that up and dice it any way you want to.

I see one person doesn't like choices.

 

Edited August 3, 2016 by EdTheMythicalOne

[RRRRRavens]

  8 hours ago, KidNme said:

I for one, love Correa's attitude. He's gotta be smart but him crushing a WR is a good thing, that's what he's supposed to do and there's no doubt in my mind that we drafted him for that nasty streak. It will bode well for him during the season. Dennis shouldn't expect kid gloves, he's made the decision to play football but if Correa is hitting after the whistle, he needs to chill out on that and try not to hurt anyone in a Ravens jersey :-)
All in all though, I like this kids moxy!

Pitta and Wallace understand how football is played. You don't smack your teammates like that in training camp though. One time? Okay you're a rookie we understand. He should have gotten the hint after Pitta went at him, considering I have never heard of Pitta doing that before. Then he decides to lay out possibly one of our most important weapons in Mike Wallace? Come on. Guys are trying to get through camp without injuries, and having a rookie linebacker laying out guys in training camp lowers those chances. I'm sure Flacco made that point known to him. I like the aggression he has and the way he is flying around the field, but you protect your own.

Totally agree. C'mon, guys, wake up! It's the folks with the non-Raven birds on their uniforms you're supposed to bat around. We have enough injuries as it is.