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Your starting WRs "right now".

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If the season started today AND SSSr and Perriman were not available who are your starting WRs?

For me it would have to be; Wallace, Aiken and Camp (slot).  Moore and Butler would sub in for Wallace and Aiken. 

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13 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

If the season started today AND SSSr and Perriman were not available who are your starting WRs?

For me it would have to be; Wallace, Aiken and Camp (slot).  Moore and Butler would sub in for Wallace and Aiken. 

Aiken, Wallace, and Pitta.

Juice and Forsett.

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Aiken, Wallace, and I really think Moore is the only other option. Our TE group would pick up the receiving slack, and I believe thoroughly that our wr group is gonna be there to make the big play a constant threat, we won't be feeding 20 targets a game to any one wr, they will get low percentage throws while the tight ends and rbs provide nearly all of the short passing game. As long as our top 2 can get deep and make plays then I think they're fine. 

 

Wallace and Moore sound fine to me, while aiken works all 3 levels pretty solid

 

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Aiken, Wallace, and a ton of 2 TE sets.  I'm still one that refuses to put Campanaro in anywhere until he can string together some healthy weeks.  If Stevie and Breshad aren't able to go week 1, I think you start looking at Butler or Matthews to make the roster as a 7th WR.

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It's tricky, which formation are we talking about? Assuming I get to choose my favourite formation that would look like:

WRs: Aiken, Wallace

TE: Pitta

RBs: Dixon, Juice

All being accounted as potential receivers.

 

If we're talking shotgun, that would be:

WRs: Aiken, Camp, Wallace, Moore

TE: Pitta

 

BTW I'm putting Pitta because I believe he's the best when it comes to receiving, not because I believe he's our best TE.

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Until somebody steps up and proves otherwise in this scenario you have to give the number one slot to Kamar Aiken.

Number two would have to go to Mike Wallace and hopefully he does everything to earn that spot in camp/pre season.

Number three also comes down to health and production and because of this I would go with Jeremy Butler first. Chris Moore could bump him based on what he shows in pre season, and Campanaro has a shot if he shows he can stay healthy. If Camp can't go then we have to take a return man and that comes down to Reynolds or Clay. If those guys make it then they slide down to the bottom of my depth chart because so far both have shown ineffective as receivers.

Depth chart:

Aiken

Wallace

Butler

Moore

Campanaro (if healthy)

and I would take Daniel Brown because he can also swing to TE if I need him.

Clay or Reynolds if Camp is out.

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now I was about to name WR's

but Jacquouille named formations, 

so on that note

first I am running a 2&3 TE set

with a 3 TE set

watson, gilmore with pitta out wide

wallace split wide

K dixon as my single back (I know he is a rook)   

with a 2 TE set

watson and maxi

wide is wallace and aiken

forsett as my single back

1 TE

crockett 

WR, wallace aiken 

in the backfield 

juice and dixon,,

if everybody do what is expected I think we may be on the cusp of a great offense,, 

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Going out of the base formation with the choices I have it would be Aiken and Wallace. 3rd receiver would be Camp. I know you guys are sour on him but he's our best slot and that includes Aiken. 4th would be Moore but I have to see him in action. With SSS and Perriman being added to the mix I'm really starting to like what we have on paper especially with the deep threats which will open up the underneath for the backs and TEs. Yeah I might be drinking some Kool-Aid but it tastes like a Sam Adams summer ale right now.

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Right now as of august?...

Aiken /Wallace/ Camp

Pitta/Watson

FB Juice

 

 

As of game 1?

Aiken/SSS/Wallace

Watson/Pitta

Juice as FB

 

 

Remember our top TE pick Maxx?  Buried in depth chart.   The guy better pick up the slack and start beating one of our vets.   2nd year is his time to start catching and get open on all the snaps he gets!

 

 

 

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I think there's a good chance Aiken and Wallace could start even if Smith is healthy.

He's 37 and is coming off an apparent double Achilles rupture. That's something Dr. Andrews has never seen before, so I think putting him in the slot could do well.

With that said, apparently Wallace has looked really impressive as far as just taking rub routes, screens, in breaking routes, etc and taking them a long way because of his speed and wiggle.

I said it when he signed, but his time in Miami showed he can be a short to intermediate threat.

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Wallace is a given, Aiken a no brainer, and Moore to put the defense on it's heels. That's pretty potent, along with Pitta and Forsett, it could be dominant.

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10 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think there's a good chance Aiken and Wallace could start even if Smith is healthy.

He's 37 and is coming off an apparent double Achilles rupture. That's something Dr. Andrews has never seen before, so I think putting him in the slot could do well.

With that said, apparently Wallace has looked really impressive as far as just taking rub routes, screens, in breaking routes, etc and taking them a long way because of his speed and wiggle.

I said it when he signed, but his time in Miami showed he can be a short to intermediate threat.

I said it too. He has a very strong comeback route that he can use at any level of the field and he showed that at Pittsburgh, and his deep slant was really effective in Miami, both of these throws are more dangerous with Joe, since these routes are all about getting the ball there in a hurry and he has the highest velocity intermediate throw in the league

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I think people forgot we used Pitta more in the slot than as an actual tight end the super bowl season... So if I were to choose the 3 starting wide receivers this season if Perriman and Steve cannot play I would choose...

Aiken, Wallace, Pitta

Pitta will most likely put up about 50 yards a game like he used to if we use him the same way. What I am more concerned about is Aiken and Wallace love playing at high levels one game and then the next disappearing. Which is why I think Steve's return and Perriman's return is huge. But if they were not ready to go I would see Wallace, Aiken, Pitta, and a lot of two tight ends sets (three tight ends possibly on the field at a time if Pitta plays the slot)

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I agree that with no Steve Smith Sr. and no Perriman that the Ravens probably would use a lot more double tight ends and then just mix and match the healthy bodies we have on the roster. Because of that we might actually keep 4 guys on the roster that can play tight end because Pitta's health will always be in the back of everyone's mind. I am pretty sure they won't want to expose him on special teams blocking for kicks.

So far we know Kaelin Clay doesn't offer much as a wideout and so far Reynolds is really struggling. If Camp can stay healthy he gets the primary returning gig as well as one of the last WR roster spots.

It'll be interesting to see how the Ravens utilize the tools they have to work with now. I hope we can see a healthy Perriman on the field and he's even close to what we hoped he'd be.

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4 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

I agree that with no Steve Smith Sr. and no Perriman that the Ravens probably would use a lot more double tight ends and then just mix and match the healthy bodies we have on the roster. Because of that we might actually keep 4 guys on the roster that can play tight end because Pitta's health will always be in the back of everyone's mind. I am pretty sure they won't want to expose him on special teams blocking for kicks.

So far we know Kaelin Clay doesn't offer much as a wideout and so far Reynolds is really struggling. If Camp can stay healthy he gets the primary returning gig as well as one of the last WR roster spots.

It'll be interesting to see how the Ravens utilize the tools they have to work with now. I hope we can see a healthy Perriman on the field and he's even close to what we hoped he'd be.

My thoughts: Always take a homerun compared to a single.

I wouldn't give up the explosion Clay gives you on special teams, for a chunk ,here and there, that Campanaro offers.The best would be to put SSS on IR and keep both , which probably is the team's plan.

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1 minute ago, ravensnj said:

My thoughts: Always take a homerun compared to a single.

I wouldn't give up the explosion Clay gives you on special teams, for a chunk ,here and there, that Campanaro offers.The best would be to put SSS on IR and keep both , which probably is the team's plan.

Lol.  Steve isn't going on IR unless he actually needs to be on IR.  There is a legitimate possibility that he starts the season on the PUP, though.

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17 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Remember our top TE pick Maxx?  Buried in depth chart.   The guy better pick up the slack and start beating one of our vets.   2nd year is his time to start catching and get open on all the snaps he gets!

Soo disappointing thus far. He was my favorite pick up in that draft...absolute beast in the pass catching game

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16 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think there's a good chance Aiken and Wallace could start even if Smith is healthy.

He's 37 and is coming off an apparent double Achilles rupture. That's something Dr. Andrews has never seen before, so I think putting him in the slot could do well.

With that said, apparently Wallace has looked really impressive as far as just taking rub routes, screens, in breaking routes, etc and taking them a long way because of his speed and wiggle.

I said it when he signed, but his time in Miami showed he can be a short to intermediate threat.

I agree, I think SS is best fit in the slot where he can do better damage. He's still great against Linebackers though I don't think he'll see those match ups often and would bully slots with his size. I think he will be good there. 

 

As far as those who are currently healthy I would say (1) Aiken, (2) Wallace, (3) Camp 

 

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Aiken and Wallace open the season as starters, Perriman overtakes Wallace for more snaps by about mid-to-late season.

Steve Smith opens the season as a role player with limited snaps, gets hurt, and we pretty much never hear from him again.

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Aiken, Wallace and Moore.

 

Like others, I think the TES get a lot of burn.

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Just interested to hear why some people think Moore would be running ahead of Perriman during the season. Assume its strictly based on a lack of faith in Perriman's health?

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Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Just interested to hear why some people think Moore would be running ahead of Perriman during the season. Assume its strictly based on a lack of faith in Perriman's health?

The OP brings the question if SSS and Perriman are both out, who's starting at WR.

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Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Just interested to hear why some people think Moore would be running ahead of Perriman during the season. Assume its strictly based on a lack of faith in Perriman's health?

Exactly this.  Plus he said assuming SSS and Perriman are out.

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15 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Lol.  Steve isn't going on IR unless he actually needs to be on IR.  There is a legitimate possibility that he starts the season on the PUP, though.

I'm feeling after a double rupture, he is not going to play for a while. He might act superhuman, but he is human. Hopefully, a little rest , recovery, and return come playoff time will do him/us well.

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Just now, rmw10 said:

The OP brings the question if SSS and Perriman are both out, who's starting at WR.

So does that mean that people are assuming that, if healthy, SSS and Perriman would be the starters?

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4 hours ago, ravensnj said:

My thoughts: Always take a homerun compared to a single.

I wouldn't give up the explosion Clay gives you on special teams, for a chunk ,here and there, that Campanaro offers.The best would be to put SSS on IR and keep both , which probably is the team's plan.

Apparently the Ravens disagree with you and is the whole reason why the last spot on the roster at WR is coming down to Camp/Reynolds/Clay. If they were happy with Clay's complete lack of production as a WR they wouldn't be as insistent in one of the other guys taking his roster spot. It is Camp's job to lose IMO. So far Reynolds is struggling, we already know what Clay is, and Camp has shown he can be a good receiver when he's healthy. But therein is the rub. Camp is his own worst enemy in this case.

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23 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Apparently the Ravens disagree with you and is the whole reason why the last spot on the roster at WR is coming down to Camp/Reynolds/Clay. If they were happy with Clay's complete lack of production as a WR they wouldn't be as insistent in one of the other guys taking his roster spot. It is Camp's job to lose IMO. So far Reynolds is struggling, we already know what Clay is, and Camp has shown he can be a good receiver when he's healthy. But therein is the rub. Camp is his own worst enemy in this case.

Last year the Ravens were struggling with returns, until they picked up Clay. But, until the Ravens publish the final 53 man roster, it's all speculation between the media and the fans.  

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