Eugene Monroe decides to retire.

[balfan23]

9 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

LOL at all of the folks who DON'T know the difference between medical marijuana and the bud you get off the street. 

Especially the ones assuming that all Monroe wants to do is smoke weed and get high. 

I can't say for sure what Monroe's true motivations are for speaking out on marijuana in the NFL. I can say I feel like it is a little bit more than simply saying it is a better alternative for pain management than opioids. I have a hard time buying that all or even a majority of the players in the league that engage in its use do so strictly for pain management. I just think it is a more palatable message when framed in those terms. I think a part of it is just trying to bring to light the league's punitive measures regarding enforcement of the policy are unreasonable and that it does have a more global social message. It definitely has garnered a lot of attention on drive time sports radio. 

[Tiznut]

23 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Listened to Monroe on "Mike and Mike" this morning. When asked if he thought that his stance on marijuana was the reason why the team let him go, all he said was "It didn't help". At first, I felt he said it to leave the impression that it at least played a role in the decision, but he went on to say he just wasn't there for the team enough ... "you can't make the club when you're in the tub". 

I think in the end, with Mornoe's move to retire, it speaks to the basic reason why the team parted ways with him and that is because they didn't feel like he had the passion required to play the game. People questioned the club for putting their chips all in on Stanley and for, at a minimum, abandoning needed depth at the tackle position. All the critics could see was his potential to still be a good player, but none of that matters if his heart was no longer in it. 

In the end, all we can do is respect his decision to live his life as he sees fit and wish him well. 

If he's acknowledging Health as a reason he was on the outs then I respect him for not playing the mj card. 

[rmcjacket23]

12 hours ago, Danny D said:

There are two kinds, those that know and those that don't.  One may not understand the usage of term when one's vocabulary is less expansive.

Yes actually, that's right. And based on what I've seen, you would fall into the latter, "those that don't".

I appreciate the effort in trying to use non-popular or "bigger" words in an attempt to make yourself look more educated or smarter, but I assure you that you've used them incorrectly and certainly in the wrong context many times.

Understand that others have certainly noticed this, and its achieving the exact opposite of what you want it to.

Not helping yourself essentially.

[rmcjacket23]

22 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

LOL at all of the folks who DON'T know the difference between medical marijuana and the bud you get off the street. 

Especially the ones assuming that all Monroe wants to do is smoke weed and get high. 

I agree with this, but there's still one very fundamental problem...

The NFL has no possible way of distinguishing between the two, and therefore its an "all or nothing" kind of decision.

In my opinion, the majority of NFL players who do use or would use Marijuana if the NFL allowed them to would NOT use it for medicinal purposes. They would use it for recreational purposes, aka "getting high". 

That's where people like Eugene Monroe's message gets lost on the general public. For once, I actually think the general public is smart enough to know that the majority of Marijuana users in the NFL and in sports in general have no interest in doing it for medicinal purposes. They may try to justify it as such, but its not the real reason in doing so.

There's probably a decent size of NFL players who would use it for medicinal reasons, and I support that 100%. The problem, as is the case with many laws and controversial subjects in this country, is that the poor decisions of some people generally lead to the banishment of a product for everybody.

[ALPHA]

I've got nothing but respect for Monroe, he was always in shape, a class act and a great player when healthy. Sure he chose the wrong forum and wrong way to push his agenda but if he's passionate about something that helps players then I'm all for it.

 

[BmoreBird22]

48 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

The NFL has no possible way of distinguishing between the two, and therefore its an "all or nothing" kind of decision.

Much like with drugs like adderall, the NFL could require a prescription from an NFL doctor or notice from a team that it has given its player cannabis oil in this dosage and notify the NFL when you've stopped treatment.

The half-life of THC is known and while this isn't a perfect method, doing a drug test over the course of a couple weeks to ensure that the concentration is actually decreasing could be a way to police it.

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33 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Much like with drugs like adderall, the NFL could require a prescription from an NFL doctor or notice from a team that it has given its player cannabis oil in this dosage and notify the NFL when you've stopped treatment.

The half-life of THC is known and while this isn't a perfect method, doing a drug test over the course of a couple weeks to ensure that the concentration is actually decreasing could be a way to police it.

Saved me a post.

[Tank 92]

On July 22, 2016 at 10:23 AM, 757RavensFan said:

LOL at all of the folks who DON'T know the difference between medical marijuana and the bud you get off the street. 

Especially the ones assuming that all Monroe wants to do is smoke weed and get high. 

So what do you think the difference is between medical marijuana and "bud you get off the street" ? I'm not saying there may not sometimes be differences, just wondering what you think.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Tank 92

[harfordravenfan]

On 7/22/2016 at 10:23 AM, 757RavensFan said:

5 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

So what do you think the difference is between medical marijuana and "bud you get off the street" ? I'm not saying there may not sometimes be differences, just wondering what you think.

My guess would be the level of THC versus the level of CDB. But... Reports aren't always accurate when they say medical marijuana won't get you high. I've tried it twice and it was some of the strongest stuff I ever had.

I'm not a daily smoker, only when I'm really hurting. Being a 45 yr old Mason tender ain't easy.

 

[izvoodoo]

On 7/21/2016 at 9:20 AM, rmcjacket23 said:

He was obviously getting much better offers than that from other teams.

This appears to be a combination of lack of desire to keep playing and the long-term view based on his recent injury history.

Guy made $41.3M in his career. He's probably decided he's had enough.

I got to talk to him a few times around town.  Really nice guy, always felt bad.  

[rmcjacket23]

On 7/23/2016 at 9:35 AM, BmoreBird22 said:

Much like with drugs like adderall, the NFL could require a prescription from an NFL doctor or notice from a team that it has given its player cannabis oil in this dosage and notify the NFL when you've stopped treatment.

The half-life of THC is known and while this isn't a perfect method, doing a drug test over the course of a couple weeks to ensure that the concentration is actually decreasing could be a way to police it.

Certainly could.

Not sure what problem that solves though, since again, I'd bet that only a very, very, very small percentage of NFL players would actually get a prescription for cannabis. 

I don't even really think that's what the players are advocating for. It may be what Monroe is advocating for, but I also think he's in the minority, even if his rationale is solid.

 

[BmoreBird22]

17 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Certainly could.

Not sure what problem that solves though, since again, I'd bet that only a very, very, very small percentage of NFL players would actually get a prescription for cannabis. 

I don't even really think that's what the players are advocating for. It may be what Monroe is advocating for, but I also think he's in the minority, even if his rationale is solid.

But that's not the point. 

I'm simply pointing out there is a way to monitor this system and even if most players aren't advocating for the use of cannabis (how many players really care what pain killers they're on?), there's still a way to integrate this into the NFL.

Doubtful it happens any time soon with it still being under federal ban, but if/when that ban is lifted, I'd fully expect the NFL to explore the use of cannabis and implement a strategy to monitor it as such.

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On 7/23/2016 at 8:44 AM, rmcjacket23 said:

In my opinion, the majority of NFL players who do use or would use Marijuana if the NFL allowed them to would NOT use it for medicinal purposes. They would use it for recreational purposes, aka "getting high". 

That's where people like Eugene Monroe's message gets lost on the general public. For once, I actually think the general public is smart enough to know that the majority of Marijuana users in the NFL and in sports in general have no interest in doing it for medicinal purposes. They may try to justify it as such, but its not the real reason in doing so.

There's probably a decent size of NFL players who would use it for medicinal reasons, and I support that 100%. The problem, as is the case with many laws and controversial subjects in this country, is that the poor decisions of some people generally lead to the banishment of a product for everybody.

I agree with this 100%