2016 Training Camp post/Updates

[January J]

8 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Likely 8, although 7 are only going to be active on gameday.  It's hard to go with less than 8 in case of injuries.  OL is one of the harder positions to plug and play, so even though 1 is likely going to be a weekly inactive, it's good to have them getting those practice reps in case their number is called.

Yeah but who do you think is in line to get that 8th spot? Ive got Hurst ,ducasse and Wesley at a deadlock for that last spot

[rmw10]

24 minutes ago, January J said:

Yeah but who do you think is in line to get that 8th spot? Ive got Hurst ,ducasse and Wesley at a deadlock for that last spot

I think it could be any of them.  Giving the edge to Ducasse right now based on usage, with Hurst in 2nd.  I'm thinking Wesley could go to the PS again, but could make it as well.

[Deflated Football]

Pitta's my boy but I don't like the idea of him stunting the growth of Maxx and Crockett. Ben Watson could fill that veteran role with reliability. 

[Militant X 1]

6 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

Man the ghost is back.   Perriman is no longer on PUP. 

Lol!  True!  But, I'm still not getting my hope up brah!  I need to see this cat have a solid week of practice and play a series or 2 in these last preseason games.  I hope he makes it.

[Wildabeast88]

2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Damned either way really. Its hard to envision Pitta being a healthy scratch, but then again, its not a good look when Maxx Williams is a 2nd round draft pick and is a healthy scratch in year 2 on a weekly basis.

That's basically Art Brown territory at that point.

Similar concerns at RB and possibly even WR. Forsett and Allen would appear to be locks for gameday active, so it means either West or Dixon sits. WR is a whole other animal, and its possible a guy like Perriman spends several weeks as a healthy scratch.

Well if Dixon ends up as the returner that would maybe help that situation and maybe keep a WR down with the extra TE as WR but it is still early to figure it out. But generally it would be a DL OL WR as 3 inactives but that still leaves 4 depending on injuries 

[Wildabeast88]

55 minutes ago, January J said:

Yeah but who do you think is in line to get that 8th spot? Ive got Hurst ,ducasse and Wesley at a deadlock for that last spot

I'm leaning Ducasse. Stanley, Yanda, Zuttah, Urschel, Wagner, with Jensen, Lewis, who both have versatility so unless Hurst really improved I don't think he is making it.

[Cville-Raven]

Perriman passed his physical 

[GrimCoconut]

6 hours ago, rmw10 said:

He's a guy I think you actually need to see on the field.  So far, he hasn't been able to do that.  Hard to give a roster spot to a guy that has played 7 games in the last 3 years and is still uncertain.  His emotion really could have hurt his chances.

People talk about Campanaro possibly getting cut, but I think Pitta could be cut due to his injuries--this is just another one. He may be Joe's friend, but we've let guys go before for less and Harbaugh apparently didn't seem pleased with him injuring the finger by hitting a rookie. As a veteran, he should be better than that even with the situation as it was. 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

People talk about Campanaro possibly getting cut, but I think Pitta could be cut due to his injuries--this is just another one. He may be Joe's friend, but we've let guys go before for less and Harbaugh apparently didn't seem pleased with him injuring the finger by hitting a rookie. As a veteran, he should be better than that even with the situation as it was. 

Yep.  It's not often that a veteran has to go out and prove themselves, but I think Pitta is one of those guys that has to due to that awful injury history.  So far, he's proven nothing.  I like Pitta but I'm having a hard time justifying putting him on my roster right now.  If he had missed the week like many thought, it'd probably be no bid deal, but we're at 3 weeks now.

[GrimCoconut]

6 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Does Elam go straight to IR or do we think he ends up on the PUP list to start the season?

I think the Ravens may just keep him on the active 53 if we feel the injury is minor enough to be OK in a few weeks. I feel that may be the likelier of the options, honestly. It's not typical for these injuries to keep athletes out that long, and since it's arthroscopic, it is even more of a minor procedure although still surgical. Everyone heals differently, but I could see the team not put him on IR at all and just ride it out until he heals. 

[DomMcRaven]

4 hours ago, Deflated Football said:

Senior, Wallace, Aiken, Camp and BP would be a nightmare for opposing defenses. My goodness, I hope this is the year our WR group can stay intact 

3 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

dont forget moore if he works out

And let's not forget the running game with Forsett, Dixon, and West. The potential of this offense should lead to Flacco having his best season (if he's healthy all season long). However, I will NEVER AGAIN be excited for potential until I see it to believe it. But that's just me. 

[Militant X 1]

4 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

And let's not forget the running game with Forsett, Dixon, and West. The potential of this offense should lead to Flacco having his best season (if he's healthy all season long). However, I will NEVER AGAIN be excited for potential until I see it to believe it. But that's just me. 

I feel the same way Dom.

[Boddiebroadus]

I still wish Dixon would win that RB1 spot. He can catch, he runs hard, and so elusive especially in traffic. (plus I could pick him up of of waivers)

[rmw10]

4 minutes ago, Boddiebroadus said:

I still wish Dixon would win that RB1 spot. He can catch, he runs hard, and so elusive especially in traffic. (plus I could pick him up of of waivers)

He can almost everything, but the pass protection needs a lot of work.

[GrimCoconut]

12 minutes ago, Boddiebroadus said:

I still wish Dixon would win that RB1 spot. He can catch, he runs hard, and so elusive especially in traffic. (plus I could pick him up of of waivers)

Yeah, as rmw10 said, his pass pro needs work and that's an issue for us atm. With Flacco returning from a season-ending injury and starting a rookie LT and possibly even a rookie LG (depending), there's no way I can see us starting a rookie RB. Nope. We will run with Forsett because he's a good pass pro RB and that's vital for us atm. 

7 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

He can almost everything, but the pass protection needs a lot of work.

I think he will be the #1 RB next year depending on how things shake out, as I see us parting with Forsett after this year for financial reasons. But as you said, his pass pro needs work and right now with how the OL is and with Joe returning from an injury, I can't see us going with a rookie RB providing potentially bad pass pro. 

[KBoum]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

People talk about Campanaro possibly getting cut, but I think Pitta could be cut due to his injuries--this is just another one. He may be Joe's friend, but we've let guys go before for less and Harbaugh apparently didn't seem pleased with him injuring the finger by hitting a rookie. As a veteran, he should be better than that even with the situation as it was. 

Yes I agree with you. Pitta has been great and we heard he was playing good during the TC.... but he needs to get hit right now to test him. His salary next season is reallllllly high. I think if he makes the team, its because there are some players suspended or on IR. Its really sad but it is what it is. I really loved Pitta but Watson signing was like the end of Pitta. Let's hope he comes back sooner than later and get some quality time in the 4h preseason game.

[Cville-Raven]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think he will be the #1 RB next year depending on how things shake out, as I see us parting with Forsett after this year for financial reasons. But as you said, his pass pro needs work and right now with how the OL is and with Joe returning from an injury, I can't see us going with a rookie RB providing potentially bad pass pro. 

This is how I see it. I think Dixon's role this year will be similar to Pierce in his rookie year. 

Edited August 23, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[ravensdan]

10 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

 

 

 

 

Give it a break fellas! He's trying really hard and there's not much more you can ask of a player. Perriman's no Monroe.

I think it's sad how many jokes are being thrown around over a guy who is trying to make a return from a torn acl in record time. Just because it's severely underreported how much of s miracle this type of return timetable is. He wasn't my favorite player coming out but this is a totally separate issue. 

[redrum52]

5 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Lol!  True!  But, I'm still not getting my hope up brah!  I need to see this cat have a solid week of practice and play a series or 2 in these last preseason games.  I hope he makes it.

I don't think we see him in pre season.

[Ravensfan23]

24 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

I don't think we see him in pre season.

He needs it more than anyone else. If he is cleared to play he should and needs to play. 

[Filmstudy]

4 hours ago, rmw10 said:

He can almost everything, but the pass protection needs a lot of work.

I'm guessing you saw the same thing I did at practice last week when Thomas Hammock lit into Dixon for poor pass blocking in one of the 11-on-11 drills.  I don't think you get that kind of reaction unless you give the coach some flak or show a lack of interest/attention.  The "coachable moment" went on for more than a minute.

[redrum52]

1 hour ago, Ravensfan23 said:

He needs it more than anyone else. If he is cleared to play he should and needs to play. 

I agree, but doesn't he still have to pass his conditioning text and so on?  If love to finally see him.  I just think the team is going to be very cautious.  I'll tell you this.  I think he'll be real hungry when he does hit the field.

[Ravensfan23]

6 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

I'm guessing you saw the same thing I did at practice last week when Thomas Hammock lit into Dixon for poor pass blocking in one of the 11-on-11 drills.  I don't think you get that kind of reaction unless you give the coach some flak or show a lack of interest/attention.  The "coachable moment" went on for more than a minute.

Or you take pass pro really serious because you have your Franchise QB already coming off of injury and you know just how important he is to the team. 

I think the coaches really wanna be able to rely on the 3 young back, but If you can't pass pro then that's an issue. All 3 need some work imo. 

[Ravensfan23]

5 hours ago, redrum52 said:

I agree, but doesn't he still have to pass his conditioning text and so on?  If love to finally see him.  I just think the team is going to be very cautious.  I'll tell you this.  I think he'll be real hungry when he does hit the field.

I think he has passed his conditioning test, I don't think you can even do walk through practices without passing it. Also per Harbs, if he's cleared to play, he will. 

I agree he'll be very hungry, I just hope he doesn't allow his emotions to get the better of him and he goes too hard re-injuring himself. However he doesn't seem like the type, but I guess we really don't know what type of player he is. I know he'll be looking to prove himself and make up for last year. Hopefully guys like SSS can help him understand he can't do it in one or two game. No need to press.

[rmw10]

7 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

I'm guessing you saw the same thing I did at practice last week when Thomas Hammock lit into Dixon for poor pass blocking in one of the 11-on-11 drills.  I don't think you get that kind of reaction unless you give the coach some flak or show a lack of interest/attention.  The "coachable moment" went on for more than a minute.

I don't remember if it was game 1 or 2, but I distinctly remember him basically whiffing on a guy in pass pro.  He got a weak little shove and that was about it.

[pitchblack_20]

13 hours ago, Cville-Raven said:

Perriman passed his physical 

great to hear he can run without getting hurt. now we need to get him a red jersey and a bubble lol

[kjbmore]

49 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I think he has passed his conditioning test, I don't think you can even do walk through practices without passing it. Also per Harbs, if he's cleared to play, he will. 

I agree he'll be very hungry, I just hope he doesn't allow his emotions to get the better of him and he goes too hard re-injuring himself. However he doesn't seem like the type, but I guess we really don't know what type of player he is. I know he'll be looking to prove himself and make up for last year. Hopefully guys like SSS can help him understand he can't do it in one or two game. No need to press.

if hes cleared and good to go, get him out there. i was all for softly softly but if he's good - get in there son.

surprised they didnt put him on pup - injury couldnt have been that bad, i strongly doubt they would risk bringing him back early or even close to underdone if they had any doubt in his latest injured knee

going to pray for you breshad - stay healthy young man

[rmcjacket23]

14 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think the Ravens may just keep him on the active 53 if we feel the injury is minor enough to be OK in a few weeks. I feel that may be the likelier of the options, honestly. It's not typical for these injuries to keep athletes out that long, and since it's arthroscopic, it is even more of a minor procedure although still surgical. Everyone heals differently, but I could see the team not put him on IR at all and just ride it out until he heals. 

If we believe what Harbaugh said yesterday, Elam won't be opening the season on the active roster.

[rmcjacket23]

14 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

People talk about Campanaro possibly getting cut, but I think Pitta could be cut due to his injuries--this is just another one. He may be Joe's friend, but we've let guys go before for less and Harbaugh apparently didn't seem pleased with him injuring the finger by hitting a rookie. As a veteran, he should be better than that even with the situation as it was. 

If he's injured, they'd have to give him an injury settlement anyway, so more likely that they would IR him and decide if its worth bringing him back.

In my opinion, its looking more and more likely that he will never play a snap for the Ravens again.

[jazz1988]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

If we believe what Harbaugh said yesterday, Elam won't be opening the season on the active roster.

Active roster could mean that Elam will make 53 man roster just won't play against The Bills.  It's only a certain amount of players that can be activated anyway during a game.