2016 Training Camp post/Updates

[757RavensFan]

3 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Great news with Breshad but Elam just can't get a chance to prove himself. Sucks for him.

Pitta broke his finger? Does anyone know how long he'll be out? 

sprained it during a training camp fight with LB Onuwaser (SP)

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, 757RavensFan said:

sprained it during a training camp fight with LB Onuwaser (SP)

No, he punched KC and broke it.

[Purple_City39]

Just now, 757RavensFan said:

sprained it during a training camp fight with LB Onuwaser (SP)

Was it him?  I thought it was Correa?

[RayRocks]

Perriman activated?  Text from WNST

 

www.WNST.net Ravens activate Dumervil, Perriman from PUP list. Elam to miss start of season with knee surgery.

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I think it was a sprain or something he should be back playing probably within the next week. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't play until the Buffalo game thogh.

Harbaugh said it was a "break in the finger."

[Deflated Football]

Don't think Pitta makes the team to be honest 

[OUravensfan]

Just now, Deflated Football said:

Don't think Pitta makes the team to be honest 

If he resembles his past form in any way he has to, especially given his chemistry with the QB and his clutch factor.

[Deflated Football]

Just now, OUravensfan said:

If he resembles his past form in any way he has to, especially given his chemistry with the QB and his clutch factor.

I want him to make it, but it was really stupid on his part the way he broke his finger and there's a logjam at TE. 

[FastEddie]

3 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Don't think Pitta makes the team to be honest 

I would be completely shocked

[trevorsteadman]

6 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Harbaugh said it was a "break in the finger."

It was first initially reported as a sprained finger I never heard until now when Bleacher Report sent me an update that said broken finger. So I never heard the update before that it was broken until now.

[rmw10]

5 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

If he resembles his past form in any way he has to, especially given his chemistry with the QB and his clutch factor.

He's a guy I think you actually need to see on the field.  So far, he hasn't been able to do that.  Hard to give a roster spot to a guy that has played 7 games in the last 3 years and is still uncertain.  His emotion really could have hurt his chances.

[757RavensFan]

10 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

No, he punched KC and broke it.

 

10 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

Was it him?  I thought it was Correa?

You're right it was KC.  BC Flacco got in KC's face afterwards. 

[rmcjacket23]

Does Elam go straight to IR or do we think he ends up on the PUP list to start the season?

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, 757RavensFan said:

 

You're right it was KC.  BC Flacco got in KC's face afterwards. 

Correct. Stadium practice on August 1st.

[rmcjacket23]

Would appear to cement Lewis and Brooks' roster spot as well...

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Does Elam go straight to IR or do we think he ends up on the PUP list to start the season?

Can't go on PUP.  It's straight IR, IR to return, or active roster for him.

Edit: New rule is you don't have to designate a return player beforehand, so expect him to go to IR with hopes of returning later.  If a better player has to go to IR, they can determine which one is worth bringing back.

Edited August 22, 2016 by rmw10

[Cville-Raven]

Did I just read that the living myth was activated from the PUP. This is great news.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, rmw10 said:

Can't go on PUP.  It's straight IR, IR to return, or active roster for him.

Good point. IR designated for return only has one player eligible right? Might be a gamble to use that spot on him.

[RayRocks]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Does Elam go straight to IR or do we think he ends up on the PUP list to start the season?

You can't PUP him.  Only thing you can do is IR with Designated to Return, IR (which ends his season), or go with an injury settlement and try to bring him back when he's healthy (unless he's claimed off waivers when we cut him, which I would think is unlikely).

My gut feeling is we go the injury settlement route and try to bring him back after the first 4-6 weeks of the season.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Good point. IR designated for return only has one player eligible right? Might be a gamble to use that spot on him.

I thought they were experimenting with expanding that? Did they not?

[rmw10]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Good point. IR designated for return only has one player eligible right? Might be a gamble to use that spot on him.

Just edited my post above to reflect the new rule this year.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, RayRocks said:

You can't PUP him.  Only thing you can do is IR with Designated to Return, IR (which ends his season), or go with an injury settlement and try to bring him back when he's healthy (unless he's claimed off waivers when we cut him, which I would think is unlikely).

My gut feeling is we go the injury settlement route and try to bring him back after the first 4-6 weeks of the season.

Just not sure if he's quite "good enough" to justify using your IRDTR spot on. 

[FerrariFan87]

Happy to see that Elvis is back!

 

Perriman off PUP now is also good news, but until I see him IN a game, I won't believe it.

[rmw10]

Since it might get lost in the shuffle, here's my edit from above.

New rule is you don't have to designate a return player beforehand, so expect him to go to IR with hopes of returning later.  If a better player has to go to IR, they can determine which one is worth bringing back.

[RayRocks]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Just not sure if he's quite "good enough" to justify using your IRDTR spot on. 

I wasn't aware of the new rule change about the designated to return spot that RMW10 brought up, so if you don't have to designate him to return in advance then IR is a possibility, except if we don't bring him back as the 1 player then his career in Baltimore is probably done.  That's why my gut is we go with the injury settlement so at least if we don't want to bring him back later, someone else can sign him later this season.

[lgcs27288]

55 minutes ago, RayRocks said:

Perriman activated?  Text from WNST

 

www.WNST.net Ravens activate Dumervil, Perriman from PUP list. Elam to miss start of season with knee surgery.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, RayRocks said:

I wasn't aware of the new rule change about the designated to return spot that RMW10 brought up, so if you don't have to designate him to return in advance then IR is a possibility, except if we don't bring him back as the 1 player then his career in Baltimore is probably done.  That's why my gut is we go with the injury settlement so at least if we don't want to bring him back later, someone else can sign him later this season.

Yeah makes sense to put him on IR and see if anybody "more important" gets a multiple week injury during the season, and then make a decision there.

I suppose it depends on how long they expect him to be out. If he's expected to miss like 6-8 weeks or something like that, then he may just go on IR or be released with injury settlement.

[OUravensfan]

I'm nervous about Perrimean practicing lol

[Purple_City39]

So far I've only read that Elam will miss several weeks.  Well it's 3 weeks until week 1.  I guess it will come down to how many weeks after that he's expected to miss.  With a three week cushion, a 6 week injury is manageable

[Filmstudy]

20 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Can't go on PUP.  It's straight IR, IR to return, or active roster for him.

Edit: New rule is you don't have to designate a return player beforehand, so expect him to go to IR with hopes of returning later.  If a better player has to go to IR, they can determine which one is worth bringing back.

Very cool change to the IR rule.  That will be very helpful for this team, with several injuries pending.

I also like the idea of releasing Pitta under injury settlement and resigning him after week 1.  That used to be done routinely for veteran players with no real market (I'm thinking T Erik Williams a few years back).

I don't think any other team would sign Pitta, nor do I believe he would want to sign elsewhere.

Are there cap considerations?

Edited August 22, 2016 by Filmstudy