2016 Training Camp post/Updates

[rmcjacket23]

Yeah seems as if West is locking himself into a roster spot. Would suspect that it would be Forsett, Allen, West and Dixon as the lead RB candidates for the 53 man at this point, unless they try to stash Dixon on the PS.

Can't see how Taliaferro or Richardson make the team at this point.

[BmoreBird22]

20 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah seems as if West is locking himself into a roster spot. Would suspect that it would be Forsett, Allen, West and Dixon as the lead RB candidates for the 53 man at this point, unless they try to stash Dixon on the PS.

Can't see how Taliaferro or Richardson make the team at this point.

I know people tend to overvalue their own, but this is one case where I can say there's zero chance of Dixon making it to the PS.

Many pundits had him as the second best back in the draft class.

[rmcjacket23]

36 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I know people tend to overvalue their own, but this is one case where I can say there's zero chance of Dixon making it to the PS.

Many pundits had him as the second best back in the draft class.

Yeah probably not a realistic option. 

[Purple Punishment]

West is looking like the best back on our team right now. I don't see him being any less than the #2 back. 

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah probably not a realistic option. 

I'm still on the possibility of Forsett getting cut. He's 31 and if the young backs impress, running backs are a dime a dozen for serviceable ones.

[rmw10]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

I'm still on the possibility of Forsett getting cut. He's 31 and if the young backs impress, running backs are a dime a dozen for serviceable ones.

It sounds like he's still solely running with the 1s, though.  Now, that could change of course, but I don't think they'd be giving a guy we're anticipating getting rid of the majority of the 1st team snaps.

[JoeyFlex5]

Forsett is more likely to go elsewhere than Dixon I believe. I honestly don't know if the ravens are valuing forsett that highly anymore, they have to know that he's a limited runner who doesn't bring much besides hitting the holes, if west is doing that at a RB1 rate then I don't see where forsett has a role, and then there's the savings.. Allen and Dixon were locks due to the investment(unless Dixon somehow looks horrible) and west making a strong case for RB1 is troubling for forsetts long term.

Edited August 2, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[Jacquouille]

Guys you can't replace Forsett's experience and leadership. 

[rmcjacket23]

13 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'm still on the possibility of Forsett getting cut. He's 31 and if the young backs impress, running backs are a dime a dozen for serviceable ones.

I think it'd take an injury. I'm all for youth at RB, but I think they like having a veteran like Forsett here.

Zero percent chance he's on the roster in 2017 though.

[Underdogsontop!]

I wonder how Bronson kaufusi is doing? Anyone know? Is he still hurt?

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, Underdogsontop! said:

I wonder how Bronson kaufusi is doing? Anyone know? Is he still hurt?

All I've heard was that he tried to take the short route to the qb a few times and got stonewalled completely, literally I've heard nothing else.

[January J]

4 hours ago, Tiznut said:

Again you were asked for proof. You provided a link that only one player tried to fight him and claimed it to show three. After it was pointed out you made up a other excuse and here another one.  

 

Its simple. Come with proof that he's playing dirty which will include video or coaches talking about it or stop trying to address it.   

 

of course I can use your logic and say Correa is playing dirty because of the flacco and pitta getting mad at him..

I'm done with the back and forth. You've missed the entire point anyway. I'm not saying he's a dirty player or anything of the sort. Just sometimes rookies or udfas come in and don't know how things are traditionally done and may  tend to go a little overboard and ruffle some feathers.( just like what happened with K.C last night) There is proof there has been 3 different incidents. 2 being scuffles and one being an injury. Don't need a video-  dozens upon dozens of ppl witnessed it and it was reported on. The one particular link referenced the one with juice and there's another that involved buck Allen. I'm not gonna go dig for it BC at this point its really irrelevant and you seem to be too hardheaded to even agree to disagree. End of discussion, get the last word in if you wish, lord knows you can't help yourself. 

2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

The Baltimore Sun's Jeff Zrebiec reports RB Terrance West has "been the Ravens’ most explosive offensive player."

He added West has also "been the most impressive back so far." It is high praise for West, but it does not come out of the blue. West reportedly shined all spring, and coach John Harbaugh said he did a "great job" during the offseason program. He still faces a tough climb to carries in a loaded backfield, but it sounds like he is well on his way to a roster spot.

 

 

Source: Baltimore Sun

Aug 2 - 11:16 AM

 

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Unless an injury pops up (and assuming West keeps it up), I see no way that we don't carry 4 RBs this year.  Definitely an oddity under Harbaugh, but that seems to be where the talent is.

Yeah I agree 100%..gonna be tough BC I see us also carrying 4 tight ends but they will make it work somehow. Inevitable injuries will help narrow things down. I had a feeling before mini camp even started that Terrence West would begin to separate himself from  the pack. He's gonna be a real bruiser this year and I see him punching in alot of TDs in goal line sitiuations.

[January J]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I think it'd take an injury. I'm all for youth at RB, but I think they like having a veteran like Forsett here.

Zero percent chance he's on the roster in 2017 though.

Agreed,no way we go into the season with 3 backs with that much inexperience. I think people are undervaluing forsetts leadership. Plus his vision is second to none..he finds holes out of nowhere. 

Agree that hes as good as gone next year..unless he just absolutely lights it up and puts up another 1300 yards..even then its possible they will move on if buck has a strong year and if Dixon shows promise.

3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah seems as if West is locking himself into a roster spot. Would suspect that it would be Forsett, Allen, West and Dixon as the lead RB candidates for the 53 man at this point, unless they try to stash Dixon on the PS.

Can't see how Taliaferro or Richardson make the team at this point.

Yeah talioferro and Richardson are as good as gone.

Edited August 2, 2016 by January J

[rmw10]

3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah seems as if West is locking himself into a roster spot. Would suspect that it would be Forsett, Allen, West and Dixon as the lead RB candidates for the 53 man at this point, unless they try to stash Dixon on the PS.

Can't see how Taliaferro or Richardson make the team at this point.

The good thing (if you want to call it that) for both Taliaferro and Richardson is that they're currently on PUP.  Maybe one of them sticks on there for the duration in case an injury surfaces.  I'm looking more at Taliaferro, by the way.

[Edgar]

1 hour ago, Underdogsontop! said:

I wonder how Bronson kaufusi is doing? Anyone know? Is he still hurt?

Someone posted a link a page or so back, (Russell street report).

Lining up at OLB and literally everywhere along the defensive front including nose.

[Sherly_Tebow]

The Trent Richardson experiment is over. I was pulling for him but he just couldn't stay healthy. Oh well. No big deal!

[rmw10]

The experiment has ended.  I almost said in my comment from a few minutes ago that I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson is gone relatively soon.

 

[Sherly_Tebow]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

The experiment has ended.  I almost said in my comment from a few minutes ago that I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson is gone relatively soon.

 

Ravens had Chuck Jacobs last year at some point, right?

[rmw10]

Just now, Sherly_Tebow said:

Ravens had Chuck Jacobs last year at some point, right?

Yep.  He was promoted from the practice squad briefly but never made it into the game.  He's a straight line speedster, so maybe he's back to get some reps in place of Perriman and Moore while they're on the mend.

[rmw10]

I feel like it's odd that we haven't added another RB solely to take some reps.  Since Dixon got hurt, we've been going with only 3 RBs in camp.  I know Dixon's injury is considered short term, but I still thought we might have added something there just so our other guys don't get burnt out.

[Tiznut]

Not surprised with Richardson. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, berad said:

Glad for West. Bouncing around the league for 'immaturity' issues was troubling and I'm happy he seems to have righted that ship.

I thought, most impressive was how good he looked catching the ball out of the backfield. 

This RB competition is going to get interesting... this really shakes things up bc no one expected West to look the best. I think he'd have to literally run away with the competition to get the starting job to open up the season, but if he forces his way on this team it really opens up some questions.

Who's the odd man out? Forsett, Buck or Juice? Maybe Dixon on IR? Tough decisions.

[berad]

15 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I thought, most impressive was how good he looked catching the ball out of the backfield. 

This RB competition is going to get interesting... this really shakes things up bc no one expected West to look the best. I think he'd have to literally run away with the competition to get the starting job to open up the season, but if he forces his way on this team it really opens up some questions.

Who's the odd man out? Forsett, Buck or Juice? Maybe Dixon on IR? Tough decisions.

It will be a numbers game. Good problem to have, assuming health *knock on wood

[Davesta]

West biggest problem is picking up the right blocking assignments as a RB. If he gets that Down and become a every down back, I see him climbing over buck for that #2 and eventually taking over. 

 

 I don't see how they keep 4 rbs and 4 TEs though. How do we justify that? 

[rmcjacket23]

14 minutes ago, Davesta said:

West biggest problem is picking up the right blocking assignments as a RB. If he gets that Down and become a every down back, I see him climbing over buck for that #2 and eventually taking over. 

 

 I don't see how they keep 4 rbs and 4 TEs though. How do we justify that? 

We did start with 4 RBs and 3 TEs last season, so the difference is only one player taken from another position group.

Likely spots compared to last season (all on defense most likely):

Had 7 DL on the initial 53... could cut to 6

Had 9 LB on the initial 53... could cut to 8

Had 10 DBs on the initial 53... could cut to 9 (most likely spot, can potentially see these even dropping to 8).

[Drew P]

Forsett brings the ability to block on early downs im not sure the other guys are any where near that level yet

[JoeyFlex5]

45 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

We did start with 4 RBs and 3 TEs last season, so the difference is only one player taken from another position group.

Likely spots compared to last season (all on defense most likely):

Had 7 DL on the initial 53... could cut to 6

Had 9 LB on the initial 53... could cut to 8

Had 10 DBs on the initial 53... could cut to 9 (most likely spot, can potentially see these even dropping to 8).

With guys like ZDS and kaufusi who are edge rushers/DEs but also can be considered OLBs in a pinch, and guys like Correa and McClellan can play ilb and olb, we could very well blur those lines a good bit. I don't think the dbs change much, but I do think well be able to get away with cutting out 1LB and I think we may see a DL go.

Suggs, doom, Mosley, Correa, ZDS, McClellan, judon, and possibly onwuasor if he makes a name, that 7 or 8 compared to 9. 

 

At DL we have jernigan, Williams, Davis, guy, kaufusi, henry, and urban, that's 7 but I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see urban or guy let go, urban may need to be outstanding from here on out for us to keep him because he's got a injury history longer than camps.

 

I think the most well see db change is 1, and I think its the least likely because it appears we have talent up front now and still have injury and age concerns In the secondary

[Drew P]

Ochi's not making the final 53?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

27 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

With guys like ZDS and kaufusi who are edge rushers/DEs but also can be considered OLBs in a pinch, and guys like Correa and McClellan can play ilb and olb, we could very well blur those lines a good bit. I don't think the dbs change much, but I do think well be able to get away with cutting out 1LB and I think we may see a DL go.

Suggs, doom, Mosley, Correa, ZDS, McClellan, judon, and possibly onwuasor if he makes a name, that 7 or 8 compared to 9. 

 

At DL we have jernigan, Williams, Davis, guy, kaufusi, henry, and urban, that's 7 but I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see urban or guy let go, urban may need to be outstanding from here on out for us to keep him because he's got a injury history longer than camps.

 

I think the most well see db change is 1, and I think its the least likely because it appears we have talent up front now and still have injury and age concerns In the secondary

I cant see them letting go of Urban... he had 2 major injuries which imo is different than a slew of minor ones.

Sometimes you jsut cant help the major, freak accidents. A string of minor injuries, to me, indicates more of a pattern and potential un-fixable issue. But, Urban was injured in college too i believe, so there is a history.

Anyways, they designated him to return from injury last year. Of all the guys they couldve given that designation to, they chose him. That tells me they really like his potential and think he can be a real player for us. Maybe this TC they sort that out and realize they were wrong - but i like him a lot. I think he earns a spot and shines this year. Could be wrong though, of course.

[redlobster]

2 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I thought, most impressive was how good he looked catching the ball out of the backfield. 

This RB competition is going to get interesting... this really shakes things up bc no one expected West to look the best. I think he'd have to literally run away with the competition to get the starting job to open up the season, but if he forces his way on this team it really opens up some questions.

Who's the odd man out? Forsett, Buck or Juice? Maybe Dixon on IR? Tough decisions.

No way you IR Dixon, what a terrible waste of pick to do that .

 

Pick at TE that be an H-back type and block (Boyle could have been that?) and cut Juice