Predicting Ronnie Stanley's first season

[PerpetuallyBored74]

He'll be better than Hurst.

So instant upgrade.

[JoeyFlex5]

On 7/13/2016 at 3:15 AM, Inqui said:

Agreed, and that's because he's not a classic mauler like Greg Robinson was and in the pre-draft process everyone bought into that really stupid "he's a soft player" and "he has a bad work ethic" hype. Nice to see people changing their tunes now though.

As a positional blocker he's fine, and in the pros where schemes and assignments become more important that should be plenty. All he's got to do is get to his spot first and seal off his side of the running lane. That's more than enough to help spring a guy like Justin Forsett to the second level. Not that I'd expect PFF to give him a lot of credit for a block like that, mind.

The bad work ethic came about because he seriously lacks body definition and bulk, and as a top shelf NFL prospect you would want to see him putting in tons of work in the weight room which he didn't. 

 

But then we all also forget that these guys are real people and have goals outside of football, which he eventually made clear. He was fully committed to both football and a career after football so I think that actually says a lot about his work ethic. But before the talk about him being a top notch student came out it was understandable, I thought he had a lack of work ethic myself, but after seeing his personality I'm sold that we got one of the best players in the draft bar none.

[Guest]

13 hours ago, PerpetuallyBored74 said:

He'll be better than Hurst.

So instant upgrade.

 

16 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm sold that we got one of the best players in the draft bar none.

Can't you just smell the delicious rich aroma?

Instant Coffee baby............instant coffee!!!

Newsome hit a career shot with this swing. Tape measure baby.......tape measure.  Mickey Mantle move on over!

[JoeyFlex5]

18 minutes ago, Danny D said:

 

Can't you just smell the delicious rich aroma?

Instant Coffee baby............instant coffee!!!

Newsome hit a career shot with this swing. Tape measure baby.......tape measure.  Mickey Mantle move on over!

Wat... 

 

Its obvious you haven't evaluated him for yourself at all. He looked like the most NFL ready player in the entire draft based on tape. He came from a balanced pro system, blocked like an NFL OT, was left on an island in pass pro and gave up the least pressures of any college OT, sealed lanes consistently in the run, executed slide protection with ease, got downfield in screens and designed dumpoffs and absolutely erased players, had the best technique you've seen from an OT in a long time, the list goes on.. Tunsil exceeds him in POTENTIAL only but also exceeds him in risk, he won't be able to block NFL edge rushers on an island until year 2 at least, and he has yet to play a full college season, how will he hold up a 16 game season in the afc north? Tunsil has a quicker first step and moves faster in space and his upper body has matured earlier, But he has also never blocked in a 5 step drop system, has made a living on combination blocking, He has never been exposed to pro style blocking and hasn't shown the dependability to survive a pro season, meanwhile Stanley far exceeds him in every category except for first step and upper body strength... 

 

[ALPHA]

Kind of trivial but his Madden rating is the third highest among rookies at 79, one higher than Tunsil

Speed 66

Strength 82

Runblock 82

Passblock 86

 

[Jacquouille]

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Wat... 

 

Its obvious you haven't evaluated him for yourself at all. He looked like the most NFL ready player in the entire draft based on tape. He came from a balanced pro system, blocked like an NFL OT, was left on an island in pass pro and gave up the least pressures of any college OT, sealed lanes consistently in the run, executed slide protection with ease, got downfield in screens and designed dumpoffs and absolutely erased players, had the best technique you've seen from an OT in a long time, the list goes on.. Tunsil exceeds him in POTENTIAL only but also exceeds him in risk, he won't be able to block NFL edge rushers on an island until year 2 at least, and he has yet to play a full college season, how will he hold up a 16 game season in the afc north? Tunsil has a quicker first step and moves faster in space and his upper body has matured earlier, But he has also never blocked in a 5 step drop system, has made a living on combination blocking, He has never been exposed to pro style blocking and hasn't shown the dependability to survive a pro season, meanwhile Stanley far exceeds him in every category except for first step and upper body strength... 

 

I can't really argue with that, but it is a bit strange how much we've changed our opinion on Ronnie since we drafted him. I don't think he's far from being the most pro ready prospect, but it's typically something we'd have never said pre draft. 

[BmoreBird22]

20 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Wat... 

 

Its obvious you haven't evaluated him for yourself at all. 

Without seeing anything else you said, this was clear the moment that I asked him to tell me why Tunsil was better.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Without seeing anything else you said, this was clear the moment that I asked him to tell me why Tunsil was better.

Or said that he played a cupcake schedule at Notre Dame

[usmccharles]

It still blows my mind that people wanted Tunsil over Stanley.  I think I was the only one to mock us taking him with our pick instead of Tunsil, it just made logical sense to me. 

[harfordravenfan]

4 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

It still blows my mind that people wanted Tunsil over Stanley.  I think I was the only one to mock us taking him with our pick instead of Tunsil, it just made logical sense to me. 

Sadly, I mostly listen to you guys and read articles but after hearing what Stanley did in college... I'm very happy with our #6 pick.

Didn't expect to still hear the tunsil vs Stanley debate since it looks like tunsil is struggling to win the guard job against a low rated guard.

[usmccharles]

Just now, harfordravenfan said:

Sadly, I mostly listen to you guys and read articles but after hearing what Stanley did in college... I'm very happy with our #6 pick.

Didn't expect to still hear the tunsil vs Stanley debate since it looks like tunsil is struggling to win the guard job against a low rated guard.

I honestly haven't heard anything about Tunsil

[Tiznut]

7 minutes ago, harfordravenfan said:

Sadly, I mostly listen to you guys and read articles but after hearing what Stanley did in college... I'm very happy with our #6 pick.

Didn't expect to still hear the tunsil vs Stanley debate since it looks like tunsil is struggling to win the guard job against a low rated guard.

A lot of articles pre draft talked about Stanley being a top tackle. Even on the Ravens site they talked about the fact that Baltimore could very well take the "boring" Stanley over Tunsil. 

Having read a lot of that stuff it's no surprise to see someone claim Tunsil was better but can't say why they were told he was the exciting pick at LT so they believe it. 

[BmoreBird22]

40 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

It still blows my mind that people wanted Tunsil over Stanley.  I think I was the only one to mock us taking him with our pick instead of Tunsil, it just made logical sense to me. 

There were many people. 

I admit I bought into the Tunsil hype for a bit because it's all the media guys said, but I was on the Stanley train since last year.

[Edgar]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

It still blows my mind that people wanted Tunsil over Stanley.  I think I was the only one to mock us taking him with our pick instead of Tunsil, it just made logical sense to me. 

No. I was on board and also mocked him to us.

[usmccharles]

17 minutes ago, Edgar said:

No. I was on board and also mocked him to us.

I think you and i had similar players we liked, were you and i both on the Jakeem Grant train

[RaineV1]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

It still blows my mind that people wanted Tunsil over Stanley.  I think I was the only one to mock us taking him with our pick instead of Tunsil, it just made logical sense to me. 

I was a Stanley supporter early on too and did mock drafts of us getting him. I wanted something that understood blocking in a pro offense and just needed a bit more strength over the raw athlete from a spread offense.

[JoeyFlex5]

19 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

I can't really argue with that, but it is a bit strange how much we've changed our opinion on Ronnie since we drafted him. I don't think he's far from being the most pro ready prospect, but it's typically something we'd have never said pre draft. 

i was drinking the anti-stanley kool aid, there were rumors swirling about him having a lack of work ethic which led to him being less than ideal from the waist up and limited his power, i bought into it, but since drafting him, i absolutely cant imagine it, the kid seems like a A+ character, i didnt know much of his character before the draft and all i had heard was that he could have work ethic/character issues, but with the team giving him some exposure he is giving impressions of the exact opposite, and that was my only concern i ever had. 

 

matter of fact, very early in the draft process, like 2nd half of the regular season, ronnie stanley was in my top 3, and i made it known lol, i flipped between stanley, ramsey, and bosa(everyone called me crazy for having those 2 anywhere near bosa at this time), and this was LONG before the rumors popped up, tunsil returning and putting together a good late season + the rumors about stanley had me souring on him big time. and ill say plenty of people were very high on stanley before the draft as well, the problem is sometimes its just hard to fight the hype, tunsils return was hyped for 6 weeks, and then he came back looking stronger than ever, and the stock soared as we ignored the knee braces, injury history, the ole miss cancerous locker room with tunsil being very much involved, the drama, the complete and total lack of experience in anything even close to nfl blocking... it really was a hype train thing, while ronnie quietly was a well oiled machine all through college, we bought into the hype of big powerful tunsil returning from his suspension to knock SEC defenders on their butts. 

 

[Cillmatic]

What's crazy is that I'm beginning to think that Bosa's not even gonna be that good.

[Jacquouille]

36 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

What's crazy is that I'm beginning to think that Bosa's not even gonna be that good.

I'm with you on that one. It's not so much about the talent, but his character seems really strange to say the least. The stories that we read about at OSU, and now the fact that he prioritize his contract... That's definitely not the type of guy I want to lead my defense.

[Guest]

On ‎7‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 9:46 AM, Jacquouille said:

I can't really argue with that, but it is a bit strange how much we've changed our opinion on Ronnie since we drafted him. I don't think he's far from being the most pro ready prospect, but it's typically something we'd have never said pre draft. 

Jacquouille, you have  demonstrated such a high degree of American Football acumen and insight that I have been selected by the loyal fans here to award you with a token of our admiration.  So Jacquouille, I hereby bestow upon you with our appreciation and accolades the high honor of the European Football Consciousness Award.  You are the first Frenchman to receive it and as with Ronnie Stanley, we are supremely confident that we have selected well.  Additionally, now understanding that France is a hotbed of NFL interest, we will now urge the NFL to make France the first site of an overseas or international NFL Franchise.  Lastly, as part of the award, Jacquouille, you will be additionally honored with the permission to name that Franchise.

So in tradition of Julia Child and Jacques Pepin, I hereby present to  you this token of our support.

 

Edited July 24, 2016 by Danny D

[mmcclend]

9 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i was drinking the anti-stanley kool aid, there were rumors swirling about him having a lack of work ethic which led to him being less than ideal from the waist up and limited his power, i bought into it, but since drafting him, i absolutely cant imagine it, the kid seems like a A+ character, i didnt know much of his character before the draft and all i had heard was that he could have work ethic/character issues, but with the team giving him some exposure he is giving impressions of the exact opposite, and that was my only concern i ever had. 

 

matter of fact, very early in the draft process, like 2nd half of the regular season, ronnie stanley was in my top 3, and i made it known lol, i flipped between stanley, ramsey, and bosa(everyone called me crazy for having those 2 anywhere near bosa at this time), and this was LONG before the rumors popped up, tunsil returning and putting together a good late season + the rumors about stanley had me souring on him big time. and ill say plenty of people were very high on stanley before the draft as well, the problem is sometimes its just hard to fight the hype, tunsils return was hyped for 6 weeks, and then he came back looking stronger than ever, and the stock soared as we ignored the knee braces, injury history, the ole miss cancerous locker room with tunsil being very much involved, the drama, the complete and total lack of experience in anything even close to nfl blocking... it really was a hype train thing, while ronnie quietly was a well oiled machine all through college, we bought into the hype of big powerful tunsil returning from his suspension to knock SEC defenders on their butts. 

 

very well said.  My concern with Stanley is toughness.  He just seems soft but we all know you cant judge a book by its cover.  Your thoughts?

[RavensFanMania]

On 7/22/2016 at 7:45 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

The bad work ethic came about because he seriously lacks body definition and bulk, and as a top shelf NFL prospect you would want to see him putting in tons of work in the weight room which he didn't. 

 

But then we all also forget that these guys are real people and have goals outside of football, which he eventually made clear. He was fully committed to both football and a career after football so I think that actually says a lot about his work ethic. But before the talk about him being a top notch student came out it was understandable, I thought he had a lack of work ethic myself, but after seeing his personality I'm sold that we got one of the best players in the draft bar none.

I always liked Stanley and thought he was one of the best prospects in the draft and was the reason I was willing to  trade from the Chargers #3 slot to the 7th pick in the draft.  I knew I would be able to land Stanley with this pick. 

[BmoreBird22]

3 hours ago, mmcclend said:

very well said.  My concern with Stanley is toughness.  He just seems soft but we all know you cant judge a book by its cover.  Your thoughts?

I don't think I'd question his toughness.

I think what you're driving is that nastiness. He does well to generate a push in the run game, but he doesn't plant his guy on their back. He doesn't really just dominate his man into submission.

Stanley reminds me a lot of 2013 Eugene Monroe. Technically sound, will be able to play on an island, and will get the job done, but he won't ever be standing over his man as they lie on the ground.

[BmoreBird22]

13 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

matter of fact, very early in the draft process, like 2nd half of the regular season, ronnie stanley was in my top 3, and i made it known lol, i flipped between stanley, ramsey, and bosa(everyone called me crazy for having those 2 anywhere near bosa at this time), and this was LONG before the rumors popped up, tunsil returning and putting together a good late season + the rumors about stanley had me souring on him big time. and ill say plenty of people were very high on stanley before the draft as well, the problem is sometimes its just hard to fight the hype, tunsils return was hyped for 6 weeks, and then he came back looking stronger than ever, and the stock soared as we ignored the knee braces, injury history, the ole miss cancerous locker room with tunsil being very much involved, the drama, the complete and total lack of experience in anything even close to nfl blocking... it really was a hype train thing, while ronnie quietly was a well oiled machine all through college, we bought into the hype of big powerful tunsil returning from his suspension to knock SEC defenders on their butts. 

Pretty much just wrote how I was during the season.

You can go back and you'll find where I said Stanley would be the number one pick the Bucs if the draft order repeated itself. I heard all the hype about Tunsil returning and bought into it when he got here, up until the draft. It wasn't until the bong video came out and I actually began to analyze everything about Tunsil that I reverted back to Stanley.

[Edgar]

On 7/23/2016 at 9:45 PM, usmccharles said:

I think you and i had similar players we liked, were you and i both on the Jakeem Grant train

Great minds like to think.