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[News] Late For Work 6/27: Why Ravens Could Seriously Consider Keeping A Whopping Five Tight Ends

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they will keep 5 TE, but not sure all will be on the 53 man roster, i could see Waller on IR to protect him, as Watson is pretty much a loaner for 2 years max, as his age plays a role, as well as SSS at WR, we could protect a young WR with potential to be ready to take a spot next year when SSS will probably retire....I see a lot of young players who will be groomed to take spots for vets who are getting very close to retiring, or released due to salary cap and age next year....Over-all this team is very young....

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I would make it compulsory for anyone suggesting ridiculous thoughts like keeping 5 TE's on the roster, to tell us which position he would take the roster spot(s) away from... It's very easy to say that this or that guy should be on the roster - the real hard choice to tell whose place that guy should take...

So, Jamison/Garrett?

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28 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

they will keep 5 TE, but not sure all will be on the 53 man roster, i could see Waller on IR to protect him, as Watson is pretty much a loaner for 2 years max, as his age plays a role, as well as SSS at WR, we could protect a young WR with potential to be ready to take a spot next year when SSS will probably retire....I see a lot of young players who will be groomed to take spots for vets who are getting very close to retiring, or released due to salary cap and age next year....Over-all this team is very young....

If he doesn't come up with something out-of-this-world in the camp, and there are no injures to the 4 TE's ahead of him on the depth chart, I, too, see an IR sesaon for Waller. That's the only way to secure he'll be in Baltimore next season, too. If Ozzie tried to sneak him on the PS, that would be way too risky: he'd have to be cut first, making him a free agent, and hoping he'd be still there to get him back on the PS. and even if that worked, he could be snatched from the PS by any other organization who happens to need a WR/TE on their active roster...
So, the IR seems the most logical way.

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I would make it compulsory for anyone suggesting ridiculous thoughts like keeping 5 TE's on the roster, to tell us which position he would take the roster spot(s) away from... It's very easy to say that this or that guy should be on the roster - the real hard choice to tell whose place that guy should take...

So, Jamison/Garrett?

Some options: Arthur Brown (no ST value, not likely to play on D), 1 of Elam, Brooks, or Lewis (past cpl years we've had heavy rotation at S and needed many, Weddle/Webb not giving up many snaps so without ST value you can get rid of 1 or 2 of them), take 1 less WR (since Waller could technically be either TE or WR... Camp is an option here), I love Juice but if they dont feel they want a lead blocker he becomes expendable, if Kaufusi looks ready to play a big role then Guy or Urban could be expendable (though I doubt it, love all 3), or a CB (Arrington or Davis cut, Canady to PS)....

And then theres always injuries. Chances are one guy we deem a sure fire bet to make the 53 will get injured. If we're relatively deep at that position they could opt for Waller and his ST value over replacing the injured play with another at his position.

I agree, its difficult to find a spot for Waller. But, his upside, flexibility, athletic ability and ST value means its not impossible. For the first time we have real depth at all the skill positions, and keeping 5 TEs is difficult when its already tough to name 2-3 RBs to cut, and 3-4 WRs to cut, but it could happen. Its not unprecedented. I believe the Pats have had 5 TEs on the roster at some point in the past cpl years, and the Packers had 5 TEs on their original 53 man roster in 2011. Im sure there are more examples, but i know the Packers for sure in recent memory.

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Possible roster if we keep 5 TEs. Note: My list contains 52 players, so that leaves space for another standout player (most likely on defense) Also, my list has 4 RBs, which is certainly not a lock either.
QBs-2
Flacco
Mallette

RBs-4
Forsett
Allen
Dixon
West, Richardson, Taliaferro

WR 6
SSS
Perriman
Aiken
Wallace
Moore
Reynolds/Campanaro/Butler/Clay

TE 5
Watson
Gilmore
Pitta
Williams
Waller

FB-1
Juszcyk, Kyle

OL-8
Stanley
Urshel
Zuttah
Yanda
Wagner
Lewis
Jensen
Hurst/Ducasse

DL-6
Williams
Jernigan
Guy
Kaufusi
Urban
Davis

LB-8
Suggs
Dumerville
Z Smith
Correa
Judon
Mosley
Orr
Brown, McClellan

CB-5
J Smith
Wright
Powers
Young
Davis

S-4
Weddle
Webb
Levine
Lewis/Elam/Brooks

Special Teams-3
Tucker
Koch
Cox

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Possible roster if we keep 5 TEs. Note: My list contains 52 players, so that leaves space for another standout player (most likely on defense) Also, my list has 4 RBs, which is certainly not a lock either.
QBs-2
Flacco
Mallette

RBs-4
Forsett
Allen
Dixon
West, Richardson, Taliaferro

WR 6
SSS
Perriman
Aiken
Wallace
Moore
Reynolds/Campanaro/Butler/Clay

TE 5
Watson
Gilmore
Pitta
Williams
Waller

FB-1
Juszcyk, Kyle

OL-8
Stanley
Urshel
Zuttah
Yanda
Wagner
Lewis
Jensen
Hurst/Ducasse

DL-6
Williams
Jernigan
Guy
Kaufusi
Urban
Davis

LB-8
Suggs
Dumerville
Z Smith
Correa
Judon
Mosley
Orr
Brown, McClellan

CB-5
J Smith
Wright
Powers
Young
Davis

S-4
Weddle
Webb
Levine
Lewis/Elam/Brooks

Special Teams-3
Tucker
Koch
Cox

I think Perriman should hit the PUP list, i think he needs a little ore time for that t heal, and depending on how well the WR's do, i could see 7 on the roster...But honestly until we see them in pads, and full contact it's hard to really gauge the roster, as i see so much young potential, as well as we need to see where the guys coming back from injury are at.....

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Potential trades could occur at WR, TE and RB before the end of the preseason. Trade(s) for draft picks would make sense IF, big if, we have a lot of depth at each position since we have a derth of comp picks this coming year.

Last time this sort of trade potential was projected with copious amounts of depth at a position (49'ers joint practice), both Urban and KLM went down. So I'm saying that to prevent a potential jinx. I'll take too much depth over not enough any day of the week, twice on Sundays.

Still I bet Denver (uuuuggh hurts to say it, I leave out the derogatory comments about Elway) I bet would love to get Forsett from us if we project Allen, West and Dixon as fully ready to go (let alone if a miracle happens and TR suddenly looks like his college self and is not injured). Forsett I see as the most trade-able player even though he is the one I would least like to see go in a trade. I think his mentorship and attitude alone are a bargain for his salary, this leaves alone his extreme toughness and Raven like play, he is a real leader and it would hurt to see him go. But Kubiak loves him and Denver I still think is hurting at RB. I would love it if we could trade Talliaferro, I don't think we will but he would be the RB I would be up for trading first. He is too similar to JA, and TW with less upside (maybe more downside than TW since West is not as fumble prone, nor as prone to go down on first contact). I really see TW as making the team and needing to trade a RB if we don't keep 4. JF, TW, J(B)A, and KD. I see this group as the second most potential for being savaged by other teams plundering guys we cut if we don't trade someone.

At WR, Campanero I see as the most tradeable WR and second most tradeable player. If Butler or Waller can fill that role, and he is not injured in TC or PS games I see him as an asset that would be desired by teams like the Cheifs, Buffalo (though we play them first game so little desire to send him there before the season starts), NO, Detroit, GB, etc.... Any team with a need at slot WR or a QB who needs short yardage sure hands. NE would grab him instantly but I see them as a team with no trade potential for us now or in the near future. At WR I see this as the group least likely to trade from, even though we seem to have the most overstock.

At TE I think we would have to be offered a lot of value for any trade unless it was for Watson and even then, the team that wanted him would have to be desperate (all TE on their squad went down and they are planning around them), they would likely want Gillmore or Williams in that case which I don't see us trading unless it is a King's ransom. Still a trade could happen from this group to avoid being plundered. It seems like we will be forced to trade in this position group if no injury and we don't want to be pillaged. Any trade will hurt here, but we might be able to extract the most value from another team.

All this presumes no injury and excellent play from all players forcing things to come to a head.

What do you think?

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I could see us keeping 5 TE's.... my first thought was that Waller was destined for the PS but he may never clear waivers and we don't want to lose him. I do think we will have a more clear picture on what Pitta is and what we can expect from him by camps end... so we may not need to keep 5 plus you never know how injuries play into this equation... a lot will happen between now and Sept. I really like what Waller can bring to the table however. And with Correa's versatility... will may be able to carry one less LB... and when you consider that Waller could play TE /WR / and ST that may mean that we are more apt to keep him around and more willing to release a bubble WR (or at least send one to the PS who is more likely to clear waivers). I think if Waller performs moderately well at TE ... he stays!

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Potential trades could occur at WR, TE and RB before the end of the preseason. Trade(s) for draft picks would make sense IF, big if, we have a lot of depth at each position since we have a derth of comp picks this coming year.

Last time this sort of trade potential was projected with copious amounts of depth at a position (49'ers joint practice), both Urban and KLM went down. So I'm saying that to prevent a potential jinx. I'll take too much depth over not enough any day of the week, twice on Sundays.

Still I bet Denver (uuuuggh hurts to say it, I leave out the derogatory comments about Elway) I bet would love to get Forsett from us if we project Allen, West and Dixon as fully ready to go (let alone if a miracle happens and TR suddenly looks like his college self and is not injured). Forsett I see as the most trade-able player even though he is the one I would least like to see go in a trade. I think his mentorship and attitude alone are a bargain for his salary, this leaves alone his extreme toughness and Raven like play, he is a real leader and it would hurt to see him go. But Kubiak loves him and Denver I still think is hurting at RB. I would love it if we could trade Talliaferro, I don't think we will but he would be the RB I would be up for trading first. He is too similar to JA, and TW with less upside (maybe more downside than TW since West is not as fumble prone, nor as prone to go down on first contact). I really see TW as making the team and needing to trade a RB if we don't keep 4. JF, TW, J(B)A, and KD. I see this group as the second most potential for being savaged by other teams plundering guys we cut if we don't trade someone.

At WR, Campanero I see as the most tradeable WR and second most tradeable player. If Butler or Waller can fill that role, and he is not injured in TC or PS games I see him as an asset that would be desired by teams like the Cheifs, Buffalo (though we play them first game so little desire to send him there before the season starts), NO, Detroit, GB, etc.... Any team with a need at slot WR or a QB who needs short yardage sure hands. NE would grab him instantly but I see them as a team with no trade potential for us now or in the near future. At WR I see this as the group least likely to trade from, even though we seem to have the most overstock.

At TE I think we would have to be offered a lot of value for any trade unless it was for Watson and even then, the team that wanted him would have to be desperate (all TE on their squad went down and they are planning around them), they would likely want Gillmore or Williams in that case which I don't see us trading unless it is a King's ransom. Still a trade could happen from this group to avoid being plundered. It seems like we will be forced to trade in this position group if no injury and we don't want to be pillaged. Any trade will hurt here, but we might be able to extract the most value from another team.

All this presumes no injury and excellent play from all players forcing things to come to a head.

What do you think?

I'm not sure Camp is tradeable or if we would get much value, as he has only shown he is made of glass so far, and draft picks are gold for teams, and not sure teams would be willing to make a trade for him....Our roster is made up of proven vets, proven vets coming back from injuries, and a lot of young talent that has potential...And these young players from last year who were forced into action due to injuries certainly will be so much ahead in year 2 or 3, if they didn't get all that PT,so that bolds well for us, this years class was insane seeing we walked away with 11 draft picks, and most in the 4 round, so would be hard pressed for them not to make the team or hit IR.....This will be a tough camp for coaches to make final cut decisions IMO....

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As far as what positions fill the back end of the roster for special teams players, in my opinion, is really irrelevant. I think too much is being put into keeping 5 TE's as opposed to 4 TE's and a player that plays special teams. The only reason I would think to not keep 5 TE's (since one is basically a Special Teams player) is if we felt our secondary was weak and injury prone and we needed that extra safety on the squad as a special teams player to protect against injury. Of course, we could always keep that safety on the practice squad and release Waller if we felt we needed to add that extra piece. If we just label the position ST1 or ST2 then we don't even argue about where that person plays.

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 Would love to see 5 TEs especially if they're going to be used as Joe's primary targets.  Will need depth at the position.  Seems that a lot of people are counting on Pitta to play in the regular season, but he hasn't even taken a hit yet.  I know it was a non contact injury, but it's still an injury.  I won't feel comfortable until he gets past preseason intact.  If so, then I hope we still keep Waller.

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The option of course is to carry 6 WR and 5 TE, as today's TE's really are big bodied WR's.....Many of them have better 40 times than a lot of WR's these days.....Just like we are starting to see 210 lb SS play LBer in some packages to cover those TE's, otherwise they just blow past the 250 plus lb LBers....

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  5 hours ago, Minionhunter said:

Potential trades could occur at WR, TE and RB before the end of the preseason. Trade(s) for draft picks would make sense IF, big if, we have a lot of depth at each position since we have a derth of comp picks this coming year.

Last time this sort of trade potential was projected with copious amounts of depth at a position (49'ers joint practice), both Urban and KLM went down. So I'm saying that to prevent a potential jinx. I'll take too much depth over not enough any day of the week, twice on Sundays.

Still I bet Denver (uuuuggh hurts to say it, I leave out the derogatory comments about Elway) I bet would love to get Forsett from us if we project Allen, West and Dixon as fully ready to go (let alone if a miracle happens and TR suddenly looks like his college self and is not injured). Forsett I see as the most trade-able player even though he is the one I would least like to see go in a trade. I think his mentorship and attitude alone are a bargain for his salary, this leaves alone his extreme toughness and Raven like play, he is a real leader and it would hurt to see him go. But Kubiak loves him and Denver I still think is hurting at RB. I would love it if we could trade Talliaferro, I don't think we will but he would be the RB I would be up for trading first. He is too similar to JA, and TW with less upside (maybe more downside than TW since West is not as fumble prone, nor as prone to go down on first contact). I really see TW as making the team and needing to trade a RB if we don't keep 4. JF, TW, J(B)A, and KD. I see this group as the second most potential for being savaged by other teams plundering guys we cut if we don't trade someone.

At WR, Campanero I see as the most tradeable WR and second most tradeable player. If Butler or Waller can fill that role, and he is not injured in TC or PS games I see him as an asset that would be desired by teams like the Cheifs, Buffalo (though we play them first game so little desire to send him there before the season starts), NO, Detroit, GB, etc.... Any team with a need at slot WR or a QB who needs short yardage sure hands. NE would grab him instantly but I see them as a team with no trade potential for us now or in the near future. At WR I see this as the group least likely to trade from, even though we seem to have the most overstock.

At TE I think we would have to be offered a lot of value for any trade unless it was for Watson and even then, the team that wanted him would have to be desperate (all TE on their squad went down and they are planning around them), they would likely want Gillmore or Williams in that case which I don't see us trading unless it is a King's ransom. Still a trade could happen from this group to avoid being plundered. It seems like we will be forced to trade in this position group if no injury and we don't want to be pillaged. Any trade will hurt here, but we might be able to extract the most value from another team.

All this presumes no injury and excellent play from all players forcing things to come to a head.

What do you think?

I'm not sure Camp is tradeable or if we would get much value, as he has only shown he is made of glass so far, and draft picks are gold for teams, and not sure teams would be willing to make a trade for him....Our roster is made up of proven vets, proven vets coming back from injuries, and a lot of young talent that has potential...And these young players from last year who were forced into action due to injuries certainly will be so much ahead in year 2 or 3, if they didn't get all that PT,so that bolds well for us, this years class was insane seeing we walked away with 11 draft picks, and most in the 4 round, so would be hard pressed for them not to make the team or hit IR.....This will be a tough camp for coaches to make final cut decisions IMO....

Campanaro is virtually untradable - a 7th round pick who was injured most of his 2-year carreer. If a boldin, a Ngata could net us 6th round picks, imagine what we would get for Campanaro... a conditional 7th rounder would be a steal for us.

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Waller could be a great depth option in the case Pitta gets injured and Watsons productive year was a fluke.

The only question is whether we really won't have 53 more important players than a 5th TE to fill the final roster at the end of August...

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I wish we were as deep at quality OT's CB's and ILB's as we are at TE.

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23 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Some options: Arthur Brown (no ST value, not likely to play on D), 1 of Elam, Brooks, or Lewis (past cpl years we've had heavy rotation at S and needed many, Weddle/Webb not giving up many snaps so without ST value you can get rid of 1 or 2 of them), take 1 less WR (since Waller could technically be either TE or WR... Camp is an option here), I love Juice but if they dont feel they want a lead blocker he becomes expendable, if Kaufusi looks ready to play a big role then Guy or Urban could be expendable (though I doubt it, love all 3), or a CB (Arrington or Davis cut, Canady to PS)....

And then theres always injuries. Chances are one guy we deem a sure fire bet to make the 53 will get injured. If we're relatively deep at that position they could opt for Waller and his ST value over replacing the injured play with another at his position.

I agree, its difficult to find a spot for Waller. But, his upside, flexibility, athletic ability and ST value means its not impossible. For the first time we have real depth at all the skill positions, and keeping 5 TEs is difficult when its already tough to name 2-3 RBs to cut, and 3-4 WRs to cut, but it could happen. Its not unprecedented. I believe the Pats have had 5 TEs on the roster at some point in the past cpl years, and the Packers had 5 TEs on their original 53 man roster in 2011. Im sure there are more examples, but i know the Packers for sure in recent memory.

I agree arrington. Is gone one way or the other...trade, released, whatever..he's good depth but not at his current price the way he performed last season. Disagree that juice is expendable though.

22 hours ago, Minionhunter said:

Potential trades could occur at WR, TE and RB before the end of the preseason. Trade(s) for draft picks would make sense IF, big if, we have a lot of depth at each position since we have a derth of comp picks this coming year.

Last time this sort of trade potential was projected with copious amounts of depth at a position (49'ers thoughjoint practice), both Urban and KLM went down. So I'm saying that to prevent a potential jinx. I'll take too much depth over not enough any day of the week, twice on Sundays.

Still I bet Denver (uuuuggh hurts to say it, I leave out the derogatory comments about Elway) I bet would love to get Forsett from us if we project Allen, West and Dixon as fully ready to go (let alone if a miracle happens and TR suddenly looks like his college self and is not injured). Forsett I see as the most trade-able player even though he is the one I would least like to see go in a trade. I think his mentorship and attitude alone are a bargain for his salary, this leaves alone his extreme toughness and Raven like play, he is a real leader and it would hurt to see him go. But Kubiak loves him and Denver I still think is hurting at RB. I would love it if we could trade Talliaferro, I don't think we will but he would be the RB I would be up for trading first. He is too similar to JA, and TW with less upside (maybe more downside than TW since West is not as fumble prone, nor as prone to go down on first contact). I really see TW as making the team and needing to trade a RB if we don't keep 4. JF, TW, J(B)A, and KD. I see this group as the second most potential for being savaged by other teams plundering guys we cut if we don't trade someone.

At WR, Campanero I see as the most tradeable WR and second most tradeable player. If Butler or Waller can fill that role, and he is not injured in TC or PS games I see him as an asset that would be desired by teams like the Cheifs, Buffalo (though we play them first game so little desire to send him there before the season starts), NO, Detroit, GB, etc.... Any team with a need at slot WR or a QB who needs short yardage sure hands. NE would grab him instantly but I see them as a team with no trade potential for us now or in the near future. At WR I see this as the group least likely to trade from, even though we seem to have the most overstock.

At TE I think we would have to be offered a lot of value for any trade unless it was for Watson and even then, the team that wanted him would have to be desperate (all TE on their squad went down and they are planning around them), they would likely want Gillmore or Williams in that case which I don't see us trading unless it is a King's ransom. Still a trade could happen from this group to avoid being plundered. It seems like we will be forced to trade in this position group if no injury and we don't want to be pillaged. Any trade will hurt here, but we might be able to extract the most value from another team.

All this presumes no injury and excellent play from all players forcing things to come to a head.

What do you think?

Thats a thought- even though we wouldn't get much in return it'd be nice to stack some extra draft picks for next year seeing as how we will only have one comp pick if that.

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  On 6/27/2016 at 0:01 PM, stixfix69 said:
  On 6/27/2016 at 11:49 AM, Minionhunter said:

Potential trades could occur at WR, TE and RB before the end of the preseason. Trade(s) for draft picks would make sense IF, big if, we have a lot of depth at each position since we have a derth of comp picks this coming year.

Last time this sort of trade potential was projected with copious amounts of depth at a position (49'ers joint practice), both Urban and KLM went down. So I'm saying that to prevent a potential jinx. I'll take too much depth over not enough any day of the week, twice on Sundays.

Still I bet Denver (uuuuggh hurts to say it, I leave out the derogatory comments about Elway) I bet would love to get Forsett from us if we project Allen, West and Dixon as fully ready to go (let alone if a miracle happens and TR suddenly looks like his college self and is not injured). Forsett I see as the most trade-able player even though he is the one I would least like to see go in a trade. I think his mentorship and attitude alone are a bargain for his salary, this leaves alone his extreme toughness and Raven like play, he is a real leader and it would hurt to see him go. But Kubiak loves him and Denver I still think is hurting at RB. I would love it if we could trade Talliaferro, I don't think we will but he would be the RB I would be up for trading first. He is too similar to JA, and TW with less upside (maybe more downside than TW since West is not as fumble prone, nor as prone to go down on first contact). I really see TW as making the team and needing to trade a RB if we don't keep 4. JF, TW, J(B)A, and KD. I see this group as the second most potential for being savaged by other teams plundering guys we cut if we don't trade someone.

At WR, Campanero I see as the most tradeable WR and second most tradeable player. If Butler or Waller can fill that role, and he is not injured in TC or PS games I see him as an asset that would be desired by teams like the Cheifs, Buffalo (though we play them first game so little desire to send him there before the season starts), NO, Detroit, GB, etc.... Any team with a need at slot WR or a QB who needs short yardage sure hands. NE would grab him instantly but I see them as a team with no trade potential for us now or in the near future. At WR I see this as the group least likely to trade from, even though we seem to have the most overstock.

At TE I think we would have to be offered a lot of value for any trade unless it was for Watson and even then, the team that wanted him would have to be desperate (all TE on their squad went down and they are planning around them), they would likely want Gillmore or Williams in that case which I don't see us trading unless it is a King's ransom. Still a trade could happen from this group to avoid being plundered. It seems like we will be forced to trade in this position group if no injury and we don't want to be pillaged. Any trade will hurt here, but we might be able to extract the most value from another team.

All this presumes no injury and excellent play from all players forcing things to come to a head.

What do you think?

I'm not sure Camp is tradeable or if we would get much value, as he has only shown he is made of glass so far, and draft picks are gold for teams, and not sure teams would be willing to make a trade for him....Our roster is made up of proven vets, proven vets coming back from injuries, and a lot of young talent that has potential...And these young players from last year who were forced into action due to injuries certainly will be so much ahead in year 2 or 3, if they didn't get all that PT,so that bolds well for us, this years class was insane seeing we walked away with 11 draft picks, and most in the 4 round, so would be hard pressed for them not to make the team or hit IR.....This will be a tough camp for coaches to make final cut decisions IMO....

Campanaro is virtually untradable - a 7th round pick who was injured most of his 2-year carreer. If a boldin, a Ngata could net us 6th round picks, imagine what we would get for Campanaro... a conditional 7th rounder would be a steal for us.

Agreed.

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On 27-6-2016 at 5:27 PM, VermontRaven said:

Possible roster if we keep 5 TEs. Note: My list contains 52 players, so that leaves space for another standout player (most likely on defense) Also, my list has 4 RBs, which is certainly not a lock either.
QBs-2
Flacco
Mallette

RBs-4
Forsett
Allen
Dixon
West, Richardson, Taliaferro

WR 6
SSS
Perriman
Aiken
Wallace
Moore
Reynolds/Campanaro/Butler/Clay

TE 5
Watson
Gilmore
Pitta
Williams
Waller

FB-1
Juszcyk, Kyle

OL-8
Stanley
Urshel
Zuttah
Yanda
Wagner
Lewis
Jensen
Hurst/Ducasse

DL-6
Williams
Jernigan
Guy
Kaufusi
Urban
Davis

LB-8
Suggs
Dumerville
Z Smith
Correa
Judon
Mosley
Orr
Brown, McClellan

CB-5
J Smith
Wright
Powers
Young
Davis

S-4
Weddle
Webb
Levine
Lewis/Elam/Brooks

Special Teams-3
Tucker
Koch
Cox

0 chance the ravens go with only 5 CB after the issues we had there the past few seasons.

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On June 28, 2016 at 0:20 AM, cobrajet said:

I wish we were as deep at quality OT's CB's and ILB's as we are at TE.

If you step back and look at our CB depth, you'll find that we are even deeper than TE. J.Smith would start on 32 teams and the 5 guys fighting to line up across from him are legit. Let's just hope the injury bug stays away. I absolutely agree tho we could use another Lineman and ILB

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Better investment: keep three TEs and get more DBs.

perfectly said, but Oz very rarely drafts any good DBs and usually it's 3rd round or later

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