[News] Are Ravens Changing Defenses?

[BR News]

The Ravens' system has been known as a 3-4 defense, but there has been some speculation that they might switch to a 4-3 system. Dean Pees explains what's going to happen.

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[Xmadraven]

I know it's june but come on man.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I just want to see ORGANISED CHAOS again....C'MON MAN

[Ugly Ball]

If we have another 5 win season with 6 interceptions, we will definitely see some e major changes ! Pees will be looking for work...

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

42 minutes ago, Ugly Ball said:

If we have another 5 win season with 6 interceptions, we will definitely see some e major changes ! Pees will be looking for work...

Very true and I will be going bald from pulling out my hair and I wont have any finger nails left..... 

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, Xmadraven said:

I know it's june but come on man.

Its a legit topic..

[RavensBaltimore]

I just want to see ORGANISED CHAOS again....C'MON MAN

That will depend a lot on whether or not Suggs can return to form and if the young pass rushers can make a significant impact. It doesn't matter what the scheme is, if you don't have multiple players capable of consistently winning their matchups and getting into the backfield, you're not going to see organized chaos.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

7 minutes ago, RavensBaltimore said:

That will depend a lot on whether or not Suggs can return to form and if the young pass rushers can make a significant impact. It doesn't matter what the scheme is, if you don't have multiple players capable of consistently winning their matchups and getting into the backfield, you're not going to see organized chaos.

I totally agree with your statement I just want to see it again. I want to see the Ravens get back to being a feared defense.

[stixfix69]

we have always played a base 3-4 and also a flex 4-3.....The reason behind drafting and signing these Pass rushers\OLBers is because the FO knows Suggs and Doom are on the back end of their careers, and now is the time to start grooming replacements....The pass rushers we drafted and signed as UDFA for the most part have the ability to play with their hand in the dirt or as a stand up OLBer.....

[ellicottraven]

Who really cares what the front of our defense is? I don't. All I care about is for us to become that feared swarming turnover inducing defense of yesteryear! That's it. Let's become the potent defense that Baltimore is known for Pees. Focus on that.

[BmoreB]

I just don't want to see or CB's playing 8 and 9 yards off when it's 3rd and 3. Get rid of that silliness and the turnovers will come.

[law215]

I think the Ravens might benefit going to a 4-3 defense. It helps everyone they currently have do what they do best. Suggs and Dumervil, at their age, can always play going forward and not need to drop into coverage at times. Jernigan gets to penetrate and not have to eat up blockers. Williams can still two gap the Center and guard along with a rotation of Guy and Davis beside him. Mosley gets to focus on the short middle tackle-to-tackle instead of trying to follow a RB into the flat. Also, Mosley is not big enough to take on guards like a typical ILB in a 3-4 needs to do. Correa is athletic enough to cover RB in the flat and TEs and when ask to rush the passer from the OLB position he will be against TEs and RB while Dummervil occupies the tackle. Ravens would have more potential pass rushers on the field at once - 2 OLB, and 2 DEs. I am not a coordinator, but I can see some benefits and like other fans, can remember when our defense was dominant when Boulware, Sharper, and Lewis just hunted whoever had the ball.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

6 minutes ago, BmoreB said:

I just don't want to see or CB's playing 8 and 9 yards off when it's 3rd and 3. Get rid of that silliness and the turnovers will come.

^^^^EXACTLY... This is a very true statement and I hated seeing that if the other team needed 5 yards our guys would be 8 yards back if it was 7 yards our guys would be 12 yards back  I absolutely hated that junk.

[Crusader]

I don't think they have a choice. Can you name the four players in a 3-4 defense? Its a lot easier to name the four players in a 4-3 defense.

[harfordravenfan]

35 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

^^^^EXACTLY... This is a very true statement and I hated seeing that if the other team needed 5 yards our guys would be 8 yards back if it was 7 yards our guys would be 12 yards back  I absolutely hated that junk.

Definitely one of my frustrations also, hoping if I see the same this year it's cause the CB is baiting him to jump the route... trying to be optimistic but with better safeties the only reason to play off man is to jump the route

[stixfix69]

Brandon Williams is a true NT, flanked with Jernnigan, and Guy is a top 3 man front IMO, and rotate them with Henry, Davis, Kafusi, is pretty stout...At OLBer you have Suggs, Doom, Z.Smith,Judon, and Ochi, with KC having the ability to play inside, and out gives the defensive schemes the ability to be a lot more attacking, so at the end of the day, it really is on Pee's play calling....

[ravensnj]

The outlaw of the chop block has made a change on how to defend a team. D-lineman no longer have to fear the chop block, which bodes well for a big clogging d-line, as the 4-3. Basically, stopping the run and playing the pass.

I believe we are currently set up better for the 4-3 with a line of Guy, Jernigan, Williams, Urban & reserves (Davis and Moore).
Lb's : Dumervil, Mosley and Suggs

Along with our new Draft picks and our solidified backfield, we look pretty dang tough.

[huntrgathrr]

I said this in a comment 3-4 weeks ago. We just have a deep defensive line with more quality players while we are kind of thin at linebacker. Correa will switch back and forth. I just don't see McClellan, Brown or Orr getting on the field much but they will probably make the 53 man roster. That leaves Mosely in the middle with Suggs, Dumervil, Smith and Correa on the outside. Maybe Correa can play in the middle but that is just speculation at this point. Judon fits in somewhere I hope but we'll see on that as well. I love our defensive line however. It should be a strength of the team barring injury. Williams, Jernigan and Guy are top drawer and the backups should be able to rotate in without much of a drop off. That being said, it's hopeful that Moore and Davis show a lot of improvement from last year and Urban doesn't get injured again. Kaufusi is a welcome adddition.
The front seven doesn't appear as strong as last year but the secondary is vastly improved with the addition of Weddle and Powers. Overall i see this as being a better overall defense.
What they really need however is a LEADER on the field. When Lewis retired we lost that and haven't been the same since. Candidates this year would be Suggs or Weddle but someone needs to step up and help the pieces gel so that whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

[Tru11]

2 hours ago, ravensnj said:

The outlaw of the chop block has made a change on how to defend a team. D-lineman no longer have to fear the chop block, which bodes well for a big clogging d-line, as the 4-3. Basically, stopping the run and playing the pass.

I believe we are currently set up better for the 4-3 with a line of Guy, Jernigan, Williams, Urban & reserves (Davis and Moore).
Lb's : Dumervil, Mosley and Suggs

Along with our new Draft picks and our solidified backfield, we look pretty dang tough.

you gonna loose a lot of games if that is the 4-3 you are going to run.

dumervil and suggs are not 4-3 OLB.
both would play DE if we switched.

[TheConquerorWorm]

I don't think they have a choice. Can you name the four players in a 3-4 defense? Its a lot easier to name the four players in a 4-3 defense.

I think you might need to google 4-3 defense. In a 4-3 defense, the OLB do not rush the passer unless blitzing (rarely as they must cover the underneath in Quarters and more important must cover the slot WR in Cover 2). So, why would you take Suggs & Doom and put them in a position where they don't rush the passer? Can you imagine Suggs or Doom trying to cover a slot WR like Randall Cobb or Jarvis Landry? This is not Madden.

[Ravensfansince03]

That's because the 3-4 defense can only be successful if you have a DT that can clog up blockers and break through the line. We had that with Ngata. but not anymore.

[Free Agent]

4 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

I think you might need to google 4-3 defense. In a 4-3 defense, the OLB do not rush the passer unless blitzing (rarely as they must cover the underneath in Quarters and more important must cover the slot WR in Cover 2). So, why would you take Suggs & Doom and put them in a position where they don't rush the passer? Can you imagine Suggs or Doom trying to cover a slot WR like Randall Cobb or Jarvis Landry? This is not Madden.

 

Obviously not. In a 4-3, Suggs and Dumervil would play DE.

[Drinkmore Beer]

4-3 or 3-4, what's the diff? If Suggs or Doom are in the game, they're rushing the passer so they become DE's. Given that this is a pass-happy league, maybe we should run a 4-2-5.

[ravenwildman]

I think defenses today have evolved from the "old days" where you could label a defense a 4-3 or 3-4. Because offenses have become so dynamic in play calling, defenses have become much more deceptive in looks as a counter. Let's hammer these folks this year! Time to get on top of the division! GO RAVENS! 25

[RavensFanMania]

That's because the 3-4 defense can only be successful if you have a DT that can clog up blockers and break through the line. We had that with Ngata. but not anymore.

Bwill does that very nicely.

[edthehead]

hopefully
from bad to good
bring back
chaos,,,,,,

[stixfix69]

I think we will continue to play a 3-4 and flex 4-3, as you have to have the ability to do both, depending on the opponent.....But our base will stay a 3-4. as B.Will is a legit NT, and you have to have one if you play a 3-4, as a true NT demands double teaming....

[ravensnj]

  13 hours ago, ravensnj said:

The outlaw of the chop block has made a change on how to defend a team. D-lineman no longer have to fear the chop block, which bodes well for a big clogging d-line, as the 4-3. Basically, stopping the run and playing the pass.

I believe we are currently set up better for the 4-3 with a line of Guy, Jernigan, Williams, Urban & reserves (Davis and Moore).
Lb's : Dumervil, Mosley and Suggs

Along with our new Draft picks and our solidified backfield, we look pretty dang tough.

you gonna loose a lot of games if that is the 4-3 you are going to run.

dumervil and suggs are not 4-3 OLB.
both would play DE if we switched.

You're probably right about Suggs, but,Dumervil can still play outside Lb.

[rockhill24]

forget the 3-4 or 4-3 only matters is results , whatever pattern you line up it all come to what happens on that play

[Crusader]

  18 hours ago, Crusader said:

I don't think they have a choice. Can you name the four players in a 3-4 defense? Its a lot easier to name the four players in a 4-3 defense.

I think you might need to google 4-3 defense. In a 4-3 defense, the OLB do not rush the passer unless blitzing (rarely as they must cover the underneath in Quarters and more important must cover the slot WR in Cover 2). So, why would you take Suggs & Doom and put them in a position where they don't rush the passer? Can you imagine Suggs or Doom trying to cover a slot WR like Randall Cobb or Jarvis Landry? This is not Madden.

Exactly my point. There are only two linebackers worth a crap on this team and none are really proven.