Breshad Perriman - Partially Torn ACL?

[Sizzlebshu]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

ok so... are there any plans out there? possibly throwing a few picks at a team with a young wr for a trade? i mean something NEEDS to be done about wr, the future of this position is so incredibly bleak now. 

 

 

 

We rolle with Chris Moore and Mike Wallace to replace him. That was always the plan. Hopefully 1 of them or the committee does enough to supplant the loss. It's highly doubtful as Perriman had the potential to be the guy in the passing game while it's highly unlikely that either of those 2 are capable of that. 

Other than that, hope Steve Smith comes back and has 1 more renaissance year. 

[JoeyFlex5]

i hate to be this guy... i REALLY hate to be this guy... i hate the guy who always brings these things up... so forgive me in advance, but... 

 

alshon jeffery still plans to play under the franchise tag in 2016 right? is there any chance there... ive been against it this whole time but i think perriman is done, it saddens me, but we need help.

[Sizzlebshu]

1 minute ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

I think the future of this position is just getting started... We drafted Reynolds and Moore and brought in Wallace.

Reynolds I doubt is going to be on the team in a year or two. I feel like he was a return guy with some upside maybe. 

Moore is a talented guy, but asking him to step up to this level is probably a bit much this fast. 

Wallace is a good player and can stretch, but he isn't going to be what perriman could have been for this offense.  

[JoeyFlex5]

2 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

I think the future of this position is just getting started... We drafted Reynolds and Moore and brought in Wallace.

this doesnt excite me lol. i like moore as a 3rd wr, we dont even know if reynolds can catch, and wallace is a great addition assuming that his horrid production was because he played with noodle armed qbs, but of course the key word there is assuming. 

[January J]

Well the Steelers lost one of their young stud receivers for the year due to a suspension too so no need to sit around and cry about it- lets keep it movin, either next man up or make a move and bring somebody in..it sucks but it is what it is- one wide receiver whos never seen the feild has never maken or breaken a team.

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

this doesnt excite me lol. i like moore as a 3rd wr, we dont even know if reynolds can catch, and wallace is a great addition assuming that his horrid production was because he played with noodle armed qbs, but of course the key word there is assuming. 

But all these names have and will probably produce more than what Perriman has.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

I think the future of this position is just getting started... We drafted Reynolds and Moore and brought in Wallace.

 

2 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

We rolle with Chris Moore and Mike Wallace to replace him. That was always the plan. Hopefully 1 of them or the committee does enough to supplant the loss. It's highly doubtful as Perriman had the potential to be the guy in the passing game while it's highly unlikely that either of those 2 are capable of that. 

Other than that, hope Steve Smith comes back and has 1 more renaissance year. 

 

Actually I don't think perriman would have amounted to anything in this league. He's a poor route runner and frankly his pro day ( btw pro day results are always better than combine results which he didnt take part of) speed of 4.28 is deceiving. on tape he played more like a guy that ran 4.5. He has poor hands too. MIke Wallace is more like a 4.28...he's legit speed..I watched perriman and i didnt see him blow by corners in such a way that his 40 time would indicate. hes more of a 4.4 speed guy.

[redrum52]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i hate to be this guy... i REALLY hate to be this guy... i hate the guy who always brings these things up... so forgive me in advance, but... 

 

alshon jeffery still plans to play under the franchise tag in 2016 right? is there any chance there... ive been against it this whole time but i think perriman is done, it saddens me, but we need help.

I've said for years, quit trying to draft em and give up the goods for a wr.  Our scouts obviously have no idea, or our staff stinks.  Whatever it is, the drafting approach is not working.

[Sizzlebshu]

Just now, January J said:

Well the Steelers lost one of their young stud receivers for the year due to a suspension too so no need to sit around and cry about it- lets keep it movin, either next man up or make a move and bring somebody in..it sucks but it is what it is- one wide receiver whos never seen the feild has never maken or breaken a team.

Yea I think the story would be different if it were AB who was lost compared to Martavis Bryant. 

And that's why our passing game (outside of maybe 1 year) has perpetually sucked in a league trending towards passing offenses. 

[Sami84]

Just now, redrum52 said:

I've said for years, quit trying to draft em and give up the goods for a wr.  Our scouts obviously have no idea, or our staff stinks.  Whatever it is, the drafting approach is not working.

 

maybe we should hire the steelers scouts..

[Sizzlebshu]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

 

Actually I don't think perriman would have amounted to anything in this league. He's a poor route runner and frankly his pro day ( btw pro day results are always better than combine results which he didnt take part of) speed of 4.28 is deceiving. on tape he played more like a guy that ran 4.5. He has poor hands too. MIke Wallace is more like a 4.28...he's legit speed..I watched perriman and i didnt see him blow by corners in such a way that his 40 time would indicate. hes more of a 4.4 speed guy.

Yea Im so convinced that you watched tape. Pick a lane brah. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I don't want to give up on Perriman and I have not yet however until he puts on the pads and plays in a real game that means something in the W/L column not just a pre-season game which he has not done yet either. I am just going to hold my expectations to an extreme minimum at best. I feel for the guy but he has to get on the field to make an impact .

[Virginia 55]

I think a lot of you guys are missing the point here. Do we have SSS?  Yes. Coming off a season ending injury.

 Mike Wallace?  Yes. Hasn't played a down but looks very good in limited work (I've always liked him).

Kamar Aiken is slightly above average and needs time. 

The reason why the Perriman hit was so hard is because SSS was going to play a more limited role coming off of a season ending injury at his age.

Perriman is a total waste of space at this point. You guys can remain optimistic.  I'm just being real.  

[Sizzlebshu]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

maybe we should hire the steelers scouts..

Steelers develop their wideouts better. They choose to draft the best athletes and teach them how to football. See Sammie Coates. 

[redrum52]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

maybe we should hire the steelers scouts..

How did this get negged so quickly?

[ravefan52]

So next year we have no SSS and we have to treat Perriman's situation like Pitta's and prepare for him never playing again.

Aiken is a decent no. 3 and a free agent next year. Then we have one trick Wallace who'll be 30 (The age receivers really start to slow down, so he might lose the only thing he can do). Camp can't stay healthy to save his life, Moore is a 4th rounder who's probably a pure deep threat and a guy who's never played receiver before.

So looks like we may very well be looking for two or three starting WR's next year.

[JoeyFlex5]

i have been so far on the other end of the spectrum regarding alshon jeffery that i have never even bothered to look into his history. i didnt even realize he had such a long injury history, i thought he just had a couple of minor tweaks.. 

 

and something tells me that if it was necessary, and there wasnt injury concerns, ozzie would make it happen. our cap situation isnt great, but 7mil after rookie signings suggests we could make a move like this if we wanted, we still have guys who are likely to leave the team in the future clearing space, monroe will free up big money in the future, forsett as well, and if pitta ends up having to retire then there is another big chunk, steve smiths contract would free up a few mills. 

 again, this was considered not knowing the extent of his injury history. i just dont think our cap situation is as dire as in years past.

[Sizzlebshu]

Just now, redrum52 said:

How did this get negged so quickly?

I didnt neg it, but you mentioned the steelers and the comment itself was horrendously short sighted given that its probably the coaching talent more than the draft that lets the steelers produce at the position

[JoeyFlex5]

5 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

But all these names have and will probably produce more than what Perriman has.

but they do not have the potential or the investment that perriman has. therefore, perrimans loss is extremely disappointing and this is a horrible consolation prize.

[Sami84]

Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

i have been so far on the other end of the spectrum regarding alshon jeffery that i have never even bothered to look into his history. i didnt even realize he had such a long injury history, i thought he just had a couple of minor tweaks.. 

 

and something tells me that if it was necessary, and there wasnt injury concerns, ozzie would make it happen. our cap situation isnt great, but 7mil after rookie signings suggests we could make a move like this if we wanted, we still have guys who are likely to leave the team in the future clearing space, monroe will free up big money in the future, forsett as well, and if pitta ends up having to retire then there is another big chunk, steve smiths contract would free up a few mills. 

 again, this was considered not knowing the extent of his injury history. i just dont think our cap situation is as dire as in years past.

 

Frankly I think its time we pulled a trade that the NFL took notice of.

[jazz1988]

19 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

btw i'd like to remind everyone the ONLY reason perriman went up peoples boards was because of his size and speed at the combine. As a football player he was really lacking.

 

i wanted us to take lockett..

That's really incorrect . Perriman was getting first round consideration before his 40 time but of course his 40 time helped( at his pro day may I add) like it would with any player. 

[Sizzlebshu]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i have been so far on the other end of the spectrum regarding alshon jeffery that i have never even bothered to look into his history. i didnt even realize he had such a long injury history, i thought he just had a couple of minor tweaks.. 

 

and something tells me that if it was necessary, and there wasnt injury concerns, ozzie would make it happen. our cap situation isnt great, but 7mil after rookie signings suggests we could make a move like this if we wanted, we still have guys who are likely to leave the team in the future clearing space, monroe will free up big money in the future, forsett as well, and if pitta ends up having to retire then there is another big chunk, steve smiths contract would free up a few mills. 

 again, this was considered not knowing the extent of his injury history. i just dont think our cap situation is as dire as in years past.

This is akin to what if Perriman never got injured. As for the money point, didn't work out so well for keeping Ngata. The cap isn't dire, but we aren't exactly in good shape either. 

[kiwi_raven]

Some of you must have terrible memories, when we were looking at perriman all anyone talked about was how he had bad knees.

Kids a Bust, restructure his contract to make undrafted money or cut him loose.

[JoeyFlex5]

Just now, Sizzlebshu said:

This is akin to what if Perriman never got injured. As for the money point, didn't work out so well for keeping Ngata. The cap isn't dire, but we aren't exactly in good shape either. 

alshon jeffery could also be a placeholder for any higher end wr who is a possible trade target. i think youre putting too much emphasis on the "who" rather than the "what"

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Like the thought or not but I would be willing for Oz to trade our 1st round draft pick away every year for a proven veteran  and get a contract done on someone who is proven rather than a guy who has not played a single snap in the NFL and just keep the 2nd -7th round drat picks and build the team that way.

[Sizzlebshu]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

alshon jeffery could also be a placeholder for any higher end wr who is a possible trade target. i think youre putting too much emphasis on the "who" rather than the "what"

Trading is generally a bad idea. They just dont work out often. If you want a target that is more plausible, how about Demaryius Thomas. You can make the argument that the Broncos may have overpaid him and want out of the deal, but would you really want DT given his struggle with drops, age, and uncertainty to how talented he truly is?

No idea if i would. 

Edited June 11, 2016 by Sizzlebshu

[ravefan52]

5 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Steelers develop their wideouts better. They choose to draft the best athletes and teach them how to football. See Sammie Coates. 

That's very true. AB and Bryant were just raw freak athletes coming out of college too. Ravens have always been terrible at developing WR's

[ravefan52]

13 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

But all these names have and will probably produce more than what Perriman has.

That's not saying much at all

[Purple Punishment]

Annnnnd yet again Perriman is done. Waste of a #1 draft choice. He's not going to set the league on fire next year. 

[Sizzlebshu]

Just now, ravefan52 said:

That's not saying much at all

This ^^^. Sign me and I'll probably outproduce Perriman.