Breshad Perriman - Partially Torn ACL?

[Tiznut]

Just now, jdynamite said:

You know they won't though, I mean look at Pitta guy got a contract extension coming off a devastating hip injury. Gets re-injured. 

* I said back then they shouldn't have paid him because he only had 1 season with decent production and the injury combined unknown. 

And yet they still drafted TEs. In other words they did plan ahead for his lack of involvement. 

[ravensdan]

9 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

lol... no. 

 

we had a injured 35 year old, a speedster who hasnt played at a high level in 3 years, kamar aiken, and breshad perriman. 

 

in terms of real talent and youth combined, perriman is lightyears beyond everyone in that list. even if he hasnt taken an nfl snap yet, theres a reason he was drafted in the first round. dont kid yourself lol, he wasnt a 3rd wr, he would have been our #1 by years end if he was healthy. 6'2" 220 lb guys who run a 4.3 and can leap and contort to make spectacular deep catches dont come a dime a dozen. 

 

has perriman proven himself on an nfl level yet? no. but he doesnt need to for sensible fans to realize that our wr corps takes a huge hit with this loss.

The kid was super raw coming out and needed time to develop. Last years injuries stunted that growth.if he had played all last year, which woukd have been limited snaps, then maybe he could be ready to step into a bigger role now. As it turned out he wouldn't have been ready for that due to being so far behind. 

[Sizzlebshu]

5 minutes ago, January J said:

Highly doubtful Knowing our luck. The trash Known as aiken? I know we Didnt have much in the stable last year but he Was our leading receiver and barely missed 1000 yards..and that was playing half the season with schaub, clausen And mallet.

He had 83 targets in those games (50 catches). Pro-rate that out for the other half of the season and he would have gotten an absurd 166 at a catch rate of about 60%.  

You throw anyone the ball enough.....

Edited June 11, 2016 by Sizzlebshu

[Sizzlebshu]

3 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

The kid was super raw coming out and needed time to develop. Last years injuries stunted that growth.if he had played all last year, which woukd have been limited snaps, then maybe he could be ready to step into a bigger role now. As it turned out he wouldn't have been ready for that due to being so far behind. 

He would have been much better than Torrey Smith and he wasn't playing limited snaps if he was healthy. Coaches and FO were gift wrapping him the starting job. 

[Sizzlebshu]

6 minutes ago, jimmypowder said:

Yeah I'd be shocked if Perriman plays a full season in the NFL . 16 straight games . Ain't gonna happen . 

Word is the injury was non-contact too . 

This isn't a big deal since this is how the injury typically happens but I agree with the other comment. Two significant knee injuries in two years before the practices even get serious. 

[BmoreBird22]

31 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

welll if his PCL took 8 months to heal it will probably take a year with this one.

 

What i hate about our situation is it's shown how pathetic we have been in drafting wr's. It's getting to the point where i'd trade a first round and 2nd for a star reciever. I'm sick of this team being incapable of having a star at the WR position. 

That's not necessarily true in the slightest. ACL's are heavily researched and with how often they happen, surgery is way ahead and very advanced.

PCL's are probably 10-15 years behind PCL's in terms of research and surgery are concerned.

[Sami84]

btw i'd like to remind everyone the ONLY reason perriman went up peoples boards was because of his size and speed at the combine. As a football player he was really lacking.

 

i wanted us to take lockett..

[Virginia 55]

I thought this was a knee jerk reaction from our front office anyway. (selecting Perriman)

This pick isn't going to pan out either way.  

I hope he has a speedy recovery. (again) smh.

[Number23]

This is devastating to Perriman's career. Even if he recovers, it looks like he's an injury prone guy that we won't be able to count on for a full season. 

[JoeyFlex5]

6 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

The kid was super raw coming out and needed time to develop. Last years injuries stunted that growth.if he had played all last year, which woukd have been limited snaps, then maybe he could be ready to step into a bigger role now. As it turned out he wouldn't have been ready for that due to being so far behind. 

julio jones was every bit as raw coming out. same with demaryius thomas. most HWS wr prospects are raw coming out, and the uber talented ones still perform very well, even while being raw rookies. hell even randy moss was raw coming out. 

 

nobody on our roster had the talent of perriman, even if they have actually played in the nfl before. you dont need experience to have talent.

[Sizzlebshu]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

That's not necessarily true in the slightest. ACL's are heavily researched and with how often they happen, surgery is way ahead and very advanced.

PCL's are probably 10-15 years behind PCL's in terms of research and surgery are concerned.

I have no idea if this is true or not, but cite evidence if youre going to make a claim like this please 

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

That's not necessarily true in the slightest. ACL's are heavily researched and with how often they happen, surgery is way ahead and very advanced.

PCL's are probably 10-15 years behind PCL's in terms of research and surgery are concerned.

 

meh, the writing is on the wall..i don't know any player who has a start to a career like this over 2 seasons who ends up amounting to anything.

[Gordo52]

Welp. Tragic for Perriman, sucks for us. Don't care if it's not directly related, should've never drafted someone that high who's had Osgood-Schlatter disease... 

Hope he comes back strong but not counting on it. His best attribute coming out was his speed and with 2 blown knees, It would be a miracle if he ever runs the same again. He was raw when we drafted him and has missed way too much time/experience to ever live up to 26.

 

Didn't feel good about WR's coming in, definitely don't now. Lost plenty of potential upside with Perriman. Luckily this year we have Wallace who can at least stretch the field. Who knows with Moore yet. Smith is 37 coming off major injury. Aiken was solid last season but nothing special. NEED someone opposite Smith to step up, or we're screwed. Gonna be another year Joe won't have true outside weapons. We at least tried with Perriman but it's beyond ridiculous how long we've negleted the position.

Hope Trestman adjusts our offense to make us even heavier on TEs & running the ball. 

[Sizzlebshu]

Just now, Sami84 said:

meh, the writing is on the wall..i don't know any player who has a start to a career like this over 2 seasons who ends up amounting to anything.

Jeremy Maclin

[Sizzlebshu]

1 minute ago, Gordo52 said:

Welp. Tragic for Perriman, sucks for us. Don't care if it's not directly related, should've never drafted someone that high who's had Osgood-Schlatter disease... 

Hope he comes back strong but not counting on it. His best attribute coming out was his speed and with 2 blown knees, It would be a miracle if he ever runs the same again. He was raw when we drafted him and has missed way too much time/experience to ever live up to 26.

 

Didn't feel good about WR's coming in, definitely don't now. Lost plenty of potential upside with Perriman. Luckily this year we have Wallace who can at least stretch the field. Who knows with Moore yet. Smith is 37 coming off major injury. Aiken was solid last season but nothing special. NEED someone opposite Smith to step up, or we're screwed. Gonna be another year Joe won't have true outside weapons. We at least tried with Perriman but it's beyond ridiculous how long we've negleted the position.

Hope Trestman adjusts our offense to make us even heavier on TEs & running the ball. 

LOL - that was legitimately funny to me. 

[Virginia 55]

28 minutes ago, January J said:

Atleast this year we have a contingency plan..even though we May need a plan C..Wallace and Moore are ok but one more tall speedster would help. Kinda makes you rethink the second round of the draft this year now..not that I don't like KC..hindsight....

I agree. I never liked KC. Another horrible pick. 

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

I have no idea if this is true or not, but cite evidence if youre going to make a claim like this please 

http://www.ostrc.no/en/News-archive/News-archive-2013/Posterior-cruciate-ligament-injury---Knees-undergoing-surgery-for-this-injury-suffer-from-poor-function/

This just confirms that research is behind. I was making a significant estimate on how far behind, but it's a good bit. 20% of ACL injuries are accompanied by a torn PCL that never even gets diagnosed. I'll try to find more.

To further this, apparently less than 1 in 5 diagnosed knee injuries are PCL related, decreasing the urgency to even research them.

"PCL tears make up less than 20% of injuries to knee ligaments. Injuries that tear the PCL often damage some of the other ligaments or cartilage in the knee, as well. In some cases, the ligament can also break loose a piece of underlying bone."

Edited June 11, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[Sami84]

2 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Jeremy Maclin

maclin played before the injuries

 

big difference.

[Sizzlebshu]

4 minutes ago, Virginia 55 said:

I thought this was a knee jerk reaction from our front office anyway. (selecting Perriman)

This pick isn't going to pan out either way.  

I hope he has a speedy recovery. (again) smh.

I saw what you did there. 

Edited June 11, 2016 by Sizzlebshu

[Gordo52]

1 minute ago, Sizzlebshu said:

LOL - that was legitimately funny to me. 

[Sami84]

Oh and waiting for campanaro to have another soft tissue tear in a few weeks :/

[kakybaby2]

I feel bad for this kid. Will be praying for him.

[ace4ever]

Sad news for Perriman and the team, we will have to look around for a trade.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, Virginia 55 said:

I agree. I never liked KC. Another horrible pick. 

there were better talents..i think we reached because we just wanted a pass rusher.

[January J]

9 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

He ha d 83 targetsinumPerrimanway (50 catches).  Pro-r  a te  that out for the other half of the season and he would have gotten an absurd 166 at a catch rate of about 60%.  

Or maybe if joe Is throwing to him all year he goes 68 Out of 90 in the second half of the season after they Start meshing and that percentage gets Bumped up a bit. schaub Throws nothing But duck farts And i Wouldnt Automatically hold his Accuracy Against aiken. Plus he made some big catches In clutch moments which is what really counts. Anyway were gettin a little off subject. Back to perriman And the buzz Kill.

[JoeyFlex5]

ok so... are there any plans out there? possibly throwing a few picks at a team with a young wr for a trade? i mean something NEEDS to be done about wr, the future of this position is so incredibly bleak now. 

 

 

 

[redrum52]

...should've moved up for Peters.

 

Tomorrow Waller probably gets moved back to wr.  I hope Chris Moore uses this opportunity to shine.

Edited June 11, 2016 by redrum52

[Sizzlebshu]

2 minutes ago, January J said:

Or maybe if joe Is throwing to him all year he goes 68 Out of 90 in the second half of the season after they Start meshing and that percentage gets Bumped up a bit. schaub Throws nothing But duck farts And i Wouldnt Automatically hold his Accuracy Against aiken. Plus he made some big catches In clutch moments which is what really counts. Anyway were gettin a little off subject. Back to perriman And the buzz Kill.

Maybe if Joe was throwing, he throw the ball to a different receiver or maybe the drop rate is even greater. We can play the what if game all day. 

Prisoner of the moment catches are what leads to overpaying for mediocre talents. 

[OUravensfan]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

ok so... are there any plans out there? possibly throwing a few picks at a team with a young wr for a trade? i mean something NEEDS to be done about wr, the future of this position is so incredibly bleak now. 

 

 

 

Just once I want to see Flacco surrounded with a complete arsenal of weapons like Dalton or Ben

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

ok so... are there any plans out there? possibly throwing a few picks at a team with a young wr for a trade? i mean something NEEDS to be done about wr, the future of this position is so incredibly bleak now. 

 

 

 

I think the future of this position is just getting started... We drafted Reynolds and Moore and brought in Wallace.