Breshad Perriman - Partially Torn ACL?

[berad]

Wow, good for Breshad. With last years, will-he-won't-he drama, I won't invest too heavily in a timeline. I'll just be glad when he's ready to go again, hopefully this season.

[JoeyFlex5]

He will certainly miss TC. Regular season is less than 3 months so he likely misses at least half. 

 

Don't underestimate this though. The difference between playing 6-8 games in year 2 for the first time and actually practicing for that duration is the type of thing that will save his career. Missing your first 2 seasons to injury is a death sentence.

[Sami84]

So if he hasn't torn his acl, what is it that has actually happened? A sprain?

[ellicottraven]

Just now, Sami84 said:

So if he hasn't torn his acl, what is it that has actually happened? A sprain?

That's the logical conclusion I suppose. Just given the swelling he must have a sprain in his knee but since he has also received a stem cell injection which basically assists in ligament growth, so who really knows?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

24 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Rapoport:

Good news for the #Ravens & WR Breshad Perriman: His knee was deemed stable enough. Got a stem cell injection, expected to be OK for 2016.

Wait, what!?!?! This happened?? 

Ok, now with that excitement out of the way... lets see it.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, ellicottraven said:

That's the logical conclusion I suppose. Just given the swelling he must have a sprain in his knee but since he has also received a stem cell injection which basically assists in ligament growth, so who really knows?

 

dont stem celll injections assist with any kind of healing? Obviously its not bone marrow injections or stem cells from fat, it's PRP injections ( plasma from blood) if its not a tear, its not a tear.. ligament sprain..

[Gordo52]

Great news!

 

The inaccuracy and mystery surrounding his injuries are unreal. 

[ellicottraven]

Just now, Sami84 said:

dont stem celll injections assist with any kind of healing? Obviously its not bone marrow injections or stem cells from fat, it's PRP injections ( plasma from blood) if its not a tear, its not a tear.. ligament sprain..

Clearly I know a lot less about the human anatomy than some. I was just reciting what I read somewhere about these injections supposedly assisting in the healing process of torn ligaments. But, frankly there is so little information out there we really don't know the situation specific to Breshad.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

That's the logical conclusion I suppose. Just given the swelling he must have a sprain in his knee but since he has also received a stem cell injection which basically assists in ligament growth, so who really knows?

My non-doctoral-educated guess is this. It was an ACL tear... but going with the rope analogy, the ligament tears in threads... if the whole rope detaches, or enough threads tear that the stability of that rope or its ability to bear weight/strain is diminished - it has to be reconstructed.

In this case, the tear was slight enough that the main function of the rope or ligament was in tact. It was still strong and stable enough to bear weight without risk of further tearing... so with the stem cell injections which aid in the regrowth and repair it should be back to 100% strength in a reasonable time frame.

[ellicottraven]

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

My non-doctoral-educated guess is this. It was an ACL tear... but going with the rope analogy, the ligament tears in threads... if the whole rope detaches, or enough threads tear that the stability of that rope or its ability to bear weight/strain is diminished - it has to be reconstructed.

In this case, the tear was slight enough that the main function of the rope or ligament was in tact. It was still strong and stable enough to bear weight without risk of further tearing... so with the stem cell injections which aid in the regrowth and repair it should be back to 100% strength in a reasonable time frame.

Spken like a non-doctor doctor! Makes total sense to me.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

5 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

dont stem celll injections assist with any kind of healing? Obviously its not bone marrow injections or stem cells from fat, it's PRP injections ( plasma from blood) if its not a tear, its not a tear.. ligament sprain..

This is not PRP injections... i read an article once that gave an injured plant analogy.

PRP sends platelets to the area which aid in repair... the analogy states the PRP is likened to watering the injured plant and adding fertalizer. It will stimulate growth. 

However, that only recruits SOME stem cells to the area. Stem cell therapy is much better and more advanced. If PRP is adding fertalizer, this doctor said stem cell injections are lie planting 10 new sides and hiring a professional gardener.

Its not just aiding or speeding up your bodies natural repair mechanism... youre adding new ligament basically. The stem cells bond with the ligament in that area thats torn, replicate the ligament cells, and bond to form a nice, new and strengthened ligament.

[Sherly_Tebow]

So, NFL.com's post on this makes it sound like he's going to be ready week 1. I know it's probably pretty hard to set a timetable right now, but that's be great. The sooner he's back, the better.

[Sami84]

2 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

This is not PRP injections... i read an article once that gave an injured plant analogy.

PRP sends platelets to the area which aid in repair... the analogy states the PRP is likened to watering the injured plant and adding fertalizer. It will stimulate growth. 

However, that only recruits SOME stem cells to the area. Stem cell therapy is much better and more advanced. If PRP is adding fertalizer, this doctor said stem cell injections are lie planting 10 new sides and hiring a professional gardener.

Its not just aiding or speeding up your bodies natural repair mechanism... youre adding new ligament basically. The stem cells bond with the ligament in that area thats torn, replicate the ligament cells, and bond to form a nice, new and strengthened ligament.

 

Yeah, where do they get the stem cells from? fat? bone marrow?

[Kinda_Dante]

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Good news for #Ravens WR Breshad Perriman: I'm told he does not have a torn ACL and is expected to be back in time for the season.

 

So this says IN time for the season but I don't wanna get my hopes up.

[AnthonyGames]

Haha I love how everybody was crying out, "this guy is a bust. Why did we draft him? He sucks." Because you have an injury doesn't mean you're a bust! Now those people who are saying he's a bust are like," Great! Can't wait to see him play. He really helps the team."

After watching some clips of him in this offseason so far, he looks blatantly bigger and faster than all the people defending him. Here's to Breshad staying healthy, and giving the Ravens a TRUE number one WR for the first time in franchise history? Torrey Smith and Boldin were the closest we've had, and they were only that way because of the lack of talent around them. But, hey, Torrey, Boldin, and Jacoby certainly helped us win a Super Bowl.

[jimmypowder]

36 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

So when can we expect him back... 

The million dollar question . 

 

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

12 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Yeah, where do they get the stem cells from? fat? bone marrow?

Amniotic sacs.

[Daft Classic]

I feel like if he required a stem cell injection, he at least had a minor ligament damage. Not enough to cause harm, but enough to merit an injection to strengthen the area. Adding the Knee Scope, I think it was a lot of touching up done to make sure everything is clean and/or everything in the knee is taken care of.

 

Side Note: Flacco and Perriman I swear are star-crossed lovers. We all want the hype of having them together, but it just can't happen. One is always out

[Sherly_Tebow]

"It’s the best possible outcome after the injury, and means Perriman should be able to return for the start 2016 season." - Ryan Mink

 

[jimmypowder]

5 minutes ago, Sherly_Tebow said:

"It’s the best possible outcome after the injury, and means Perriman should be able to return for the start 2016 season." - Ryan Mink

 

Well lets see what happens after he actually gets hit a few times. I know I'll be holding my breath. 

[DenverRaven]

Again, while cautious optimism is warranted, I am really pulling for this dude to make people eat their words. 

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, jimmypowder said:

Well lets see what happens after he actually gets hit a few times. I know I'll be holding my breath. 

Acl tends to be a non contact or minimal contact injury, along with most knee and ankle injuries. 

 

Contact isn't a worry, the guys built like a linebacker, the issue is with that size to speed ratio he is vulnerable to playing with less control, thus vulnerable to non contact injuries.

Edited June 14, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[RavensFanMania]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

Only concern know is how he reacts to the treatment and how quickly he heals.  Remember again that he'll likely be missing all of training camp, so I wouldn't put expectations too high for week 1.  He has very little practice time to his name with us.

I heard that he was out 2-4 weeks, but it wasn't an official source.  It was a general time table on Rotoworld.  His will likely be longer.  I'm holding out hope he can have a little bit of practice time before the season begins.

Edited June 14, 2016 by RavensFanMania

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

2 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

I heard that he was out 2-4 weeks, but it wasn't an official source.  I'm trying to find out the source.

Ive heard and repeated 2-4 months is the typical timetable. Not sure if thats what youre thinking or maybe saw the same source as me (i just looked on google for typical time for that injury with stem cell injections)... but 2-4 weeks??? Id like to see that source.

[ratedr]

First report: "Perriman tore his ACL, probably out for the season"

Second report: "The ACL is only partially torn, might return this season"

New report: "lol jk"

I hope like hell that this is accurate, for the sake of both the kid and the team, but lord is this dance exhausting.

[Deflated Football]

2 minutes ago, ratedr said:

First report: "Perriman tore his ACL, probably out for the season"

Second report: "The ACL is only partially torn, might return this season"

New report: "lol jk"

I hope like hell that this is accurate, for the sake of both the kid and the team, but lord is this dance exhausting.

The Ravens way.. giving out free heart attacks every chance they can get 

[Jacquouille]

Just now, Deflated Football said:

The Ravens way.. giving out free heart attacks every chance they can get 

To be fair, it was Schefter and Rapoport

[Deflated Football]

1 minute ago, Jacquouille said:

To be fair, it was Schefter and Rapoport

True!!!

[RavensFanMania]

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

I'm going to be very optimistic and say he plays against the Bills! If I'm optimistic, I want to be shamelessly so!

Just being on the field is a plus.  I don't think he would have started the season as a #2 receiver.  I have Smith and Aiken starting and Perriman a number 3 whom would likely take over a starter roll in season.  Now without training camp it could take a bit longer.  I still have a lot of hope and was one of the members that was happy with the pick. 

[Deflated Football]

Just now, RavensFanMania said:

Just being on the field is a plus.  I don't think he would have started the season as a #2 receiver.  I have Smith and Aiken starting and Perriman a number 3 whom would likely take over a starter roll in season.  Now without training camp it could take a bit longer.  I still have a lot of hope and was one of the members that was happy with the pick. 

I didn't think Sr. even had a timetable to return yet?