[News] Eisenberg: Time For Some Facts And Opinions

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John Eisenberg gives his take on Warren Sapp's tweet, Kamalei Correa at ILB, Dennis Pitta's place among Ravens' tight ends, Steve Smith Sr.'s chase of history, NFL's Top 100 and more.

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[crazyboutravens]

Unfortunately I think with Steve Smith being a Raven it hurts his chances of getting into the HOF.

[whobilly]

Who cares about the Top 100 other than the NFL Network for ratings. SSS will get into the HOF and go as a Panther. And yes, if Pitta can play hw will take playing time away from Gilmore and Williams. Hope he can do it.

[harfordravenfan]

28 minutes ago, whobilly said:

Who cares about the Top 100 other than the NFL Network for ratings. SSS will get into the HOF and go as a Panther. And yes, if Pitta can play hw will take playing time away from Gilmore and Williams. Hope he can do it.

Agree with everything 

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Unfortunately I think with Steve Smith being a Raven it hurts his chances of getting into the HOF.

If anything people seeing the level Steve Smith Sr. stills plays at while in a Ravens uniform is the icing on the cake. Just last year he breaks a typical easy 5 and out route for a TD out of nowhere vs Cincy. Not bad for what 36 at the time? Ice up son!

[RRRRRavens]

I like these Fact/Opinion pieces. Helps clarify the air at times. Even if I don't always agree with each and every detail I think they are useful. Keep it up, John E.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Unfortunately I think with Steve Smith being a Raven it hurts his chances of getting into the HOF.

??? WHAT??? You get in the Hall Of Fame on your own merits and SSS has done more than enough to get into the HOF. If anything he rejuvenated his career coming to the Raven family. I just don't understand your comment. But to each their own.

[757RavensFan]

20 hours ago, crazyboutravens said:

Unfortunately I think with Steve Smith being a Raven it hurts his chances of getting into the HOF.

Care to elaborate.  HOF induction is based on career stats.  His time w/ the Ravens helps his career. 

SSS is a HOF lock.  

Edited June 5, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[slowboater]

Unfortunately I think with Steve Smith being a Raven it hurts his chances of getting into the HOF.

SSS, at his age, accumulating 1000 yards this year would put him in elite company with no other than Jerry Rice. He was on pace for over a thousand last year and did so in 2014. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but at least, back up your "opinion" with some substance.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Here are some other things about Steve Smith Sr.

He is currently 15th all time in career receptions.

He needs only 68 more yards to break 14,000 yards for his career. If he gets 1068 he will break 15,000 yards which would place him 6th place behind Tony Gonzalez and ahead of Tim Brown. He is currently 11th all time.

If there is one negative to his career it would be career receiving TD's. He's currently ranked 29th all time, but if he gets four more he would get 80 for his career. He'd need an almost record setting year for TD's to tie Don Hutson with 99 and tie for the 10th spot.

Unless he loses a majority of a season with an injury I could see him passing the 1,000 reception mark, 14,000 yard mark, and 80TD mark this year. 15,000 would be a bit of a stretch because he'd need another 1,068 yards but if anyone can do it I think Steve Smith can.

[huntrgathrr]

The Ravens better hope Correa is ready to play this year. He and Kaufusi. We are really thin at OLB. I don't know what we should expect from Suggs coming off the injury. I don't know what Dumervil has left in the tank. I'm not sold on McClellan on the outside at all. That leaves Z. Smith and Correa to do the bulk of the work on the outside. The whole situation scares me to be honest.
Same at ILB......we have Mosely but is Arthur Brown ready up?? I am not sold on Orr either.
Given the strength and depth of our defensive line group I have to think we will be playing a lot of 4-3 this season. This will give Kaufusi and Henry the chance to step in and contribute in rotation with Williams, Jernigan, Guy, Davis, Urban and KLM. Davis, Urban and KLM still have a lot to prove IMO.
Adding Weddle and Powers should really give us a solid secondary. I just see us being weak in pass coverage underneath given the inexperience of our OLBs.
This is the first time in a long while that the linebacker group appears to be the weakest on the team. Ozzie would do well to trade for a veteran. Letting Daryl Smith go seems like a huge blunder IMO.

[ellicottraven]

Oh SSS will be in the HOF. If he doesn't get elected in the first ballot, you can bet your bottom dollar he'll be inducted in the first 2-3 yr window of eligibility. I believe he deserves first ballot consideration, but even players like Carter and Tim Brown didn't make it in the first ballot... however, Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are first ballot locks for the HOF.

[bioLarzen]

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Oh SSS will be in the HOF. If he doesn't get elected in the first ballot, you can bet your bottom dollar he'll be inducted in the first 2-3 yr window of eligibility. I believe he deserves first ballot consideration, but even players like Carter and Tim Brown didn't make it in the first ballot... however, Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are first ballot locks for the HOF.

Ray Lewis is the surest lock for a first-ballot HOF'er one can imagine - but don't bet all your money on Ed being a first ballot inductee. not as if he didn't deserve it, of course - but it seems it's awfully hard to make it for the first try for safeties. Althogh, Woodson made it - so let's hope they won't overcomplicate it with Ed either. It would be an absolute shame to keep him waiting any longer than 2 years. Ton of production all through his career, an absolute positive personality, no off-the-field issues at all, talent like you rarely ever see on the field...

Edited June 5, 2016 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

22 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

Care to elaborate.  HOF induction is based on career stats.  His time w/ the Ravens helps his career. 

SSS is a HOF lock.  

There are those fans who think the only real goal the NFL Headquarters have their minds on, is to punish their organization any way they can, because... because... well ,they do, period.

 

The real fun part? Each of the 32 NFL organizations has this kind of fans...

Edited June 5, 2016 by bioLarzen

[ellicottraven]

6 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Ray Lewis is the surest lock for a first-ballot HOF'er one can imagine - but don't bet all your money on Ed being a first ballot inductee. not as if he didn't deserve it, of course - but it seems it's awfully hard to make it for the first try for safeties. Althogh, Woodson made it - so let's hope they won't overcomplicate it with Ed either. It would be an absolute shame to keep him waiting any longer than 2 years. Ton of production all through his career, an absolute positive personality, no off-the-field issues at all, talent like you rarely ever see on the field...

He is quite universally spoken about as the best safety of all time by his peers. So, while I don't rule out your possibility, I'll have to say it is exceedingly unlikely he isn't a first ballot HOFer.

[Grapple Raven]

I certainly hope Correa and some of the other young fellows can step up at the line backer position, because they have big shoes to fill.  Daryl Smith was a great player for the Ravens, and frankly he is going to be missed.   Sometimes that veteran experience pays off more than money or speed.  He played injured for most of last season, but you wouldn't have noticed as the guy gave 110% on every play.  He would have been a great mentor to all these young defensive rookies, as he was for C.J.  For me letting Daryl Smith go is one of those decisions that falls in the "second guessing" category.

[harfordravenfan]

46 minutes ago, Grapple Raven said:

I certainly hope Correa and some of the other young fellows can step up at the line backer position, because they have big shoes to fill.  Daryl Smith was a great player for the Ravens, and frankly he is going to be missed.   Sometimes that veteran experience pays off more than money or speed.  He played injured for most of last season, but you wouldn't have noticed as the guy gave 110% on every play.  He would have been a great mentor to all these young defensive rookies, as he was for C.J.  For me letting Daryl Smith go is one of those decisions that falls in the "second guessing" category.

Gotta say, when they let Smith go... I really thought they had a FA in mind or already in the works. Would be insane to assume the draft fills the spot cause they you may end up reaching (although that wasn't the case this year). Either they have a lot of faith in Brown and Orr or they assume they can grab someone that gets cut but I don't see any coverage ILBers being cut... time will tell I guess

[Crusader]

Fact is there are no Ravens yet listed in the NFL 100 players selection and they are halfway thru. Could all the Ravens be listed in the top 50? I Hope some are because that will say a lot about what the NFL players think about playing against John's Ravens. Its getting sad how far the Ravens have fallen.

[FloridalovesRavens]

Fact is there are no Ravens yet listed in the NFL 100 players selection and they are halfway thru. Could all the Ravens be listed in the top 50? I Hope some are because that will say a lot about what the NFL players think about playing against John's Ravens. Its getting sad how far the Ravens have fallen.

The Ravens have not fallen. Just some fans opinions of them. I am quite sure there are players in the top 100 whose team did not have a winning season as well.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

On 6/5/2016 at 4:19 PM, bioLarzen said:

Ray Lewis is the surest lock for a first-ballot HOF'er one can imagine - but don't bet all your money on Ed being a first ballot inductee. not as if he didn't deserve it, of course - but it seems it's awfully hard to make it for the first try for safeties. Althogh, Woodson made it - so let's hope they won't overcomplicate it with Ed either. It would be an absolute shame to keep him waiting any longer than 2 years. Ton of production all through his career, an absolute positive personality, no off-the-field issues at all, talent like you rarely ever see on the field...

If you mean Rod Woodson then you are overlooking a few things.

First of all, for most of his career he was an amazing corner back. Secondly, he was also a dangerous kick and punt returner and did it on pretty much a full time basis for seven years.

The fact that he was able to move to FS at the tail end of his career and be just as amazing there as he was a CB in his prime is just a testament to how great of a football player he was.

While the position does play against Ed Reed, he was absolutely one of the best ever to play the position and I think he's got first ballot potential. Going to depend who else is in that class but I would be hard pressed to vote many other guys ahead of him.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

On 6/6/2016 at 10:54 AM, FloridalovesRavens said:

The Ravens have not fallen. Just some fans opinions of them. I am quite sure there are players in the top 100 whose team did not have a winning season as well.

The top 100 is voted on by NFL players, right?

I don't really care what these glorified popularity contests say. The only thing that matters come regular season is Wins.

I would have to think that Marshal Yanda is going to be on the list somewhere.

[harfordravenfan]

On 6/5/2016 at 10:54 PM, ellicottraven said:

He is quite universally spoken about as the best safety of all time by his peers. So, while I don't rule out your possibility, I'll have to say it is exceedingly unlikely he isn't a first ballot HOFer.

Agreed, he forced coaches and QBs to game plan away from him yet still produced