Any reports on chris moore and kenneth dixon in otas?

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

28 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

Why is this down voted?  It's 100% accurate. The line TD was behind would have been insane for Sanders. 

I don't know why? Maybe your putting words in his mouth because in his post I don't see where TD's O-Line was mentioned just Denvers O-Line so did he mean Denvers O-Line then or now or maybe perhaps 25 years ago? However I agree the line TD was behind would have been great for Sanders. But Emmitt's line would have been even better. Just my opinion.

Edited July 3, 2016 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

23 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Lol.  I'm not calling anyone out here but I can't be the only one finding it funny that Dixon has been compared to Rice,  Willis McGahee, Faulk, McCoy, Bell,  Rawls and Lewis in this thread alone. No comparison to Forte or Tomlinson comparisons while we're at it?  

No cynicism here or thoughts directed at anyone in particular. I just found this observation funny lol.  

I don't anyone's comparing skills or career success in the nfl. 

The comments are all related to body type or running style. What he looks like when running. 

Nothing outrageous or over the top about that. Most of the comments are he uses a similar move to x, he's shorter and bulkier like x, he strides like y, receiving is a big part of his game like z. 

And most, if not all of those statements are true, and don't allude to any personal projections or expectations for his Nfl success.

i get what you're saying, but the context of the comparisons are all reasonable. I mean, what would be the point of comparing certain characteristics of his to other RBs that no one knows... Or limiting comparisons to only other RBs who are rookies and have similar questionable futures even if the comparisons of traits don't fit as well. 

[GrimCoconut]

18 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I don't anyone's comparing skills or career success in the nfl. 

The comments are all related to body type or running style. What he looks like when running. 

Nothing outrageous or over the top about that. Most of the comments are he uses a similar move to x, he's shorter and bulkier like x, he strides like y, receiving is a big part of his game like z. 

And most, if not all of those statements are true, and don't allude to any personal projections or expectations for his Nfl success.

i get what you're saying, but the context of the comparisons are all reasonable. I mean, what would be the point of comparing certain characteristics of his to other RBs that no one knows... Or limiting comparisons to only other RBs who are rookies and have similar questionable futures even if the comparisons of traits don't fit as well. 

It's not the comparisons that I found funny--it's the number of players to which he's compared that's funny. I got no problems with comparisons. I even agree with some of them. I just found the number of comparisons a bit amusing. 

[Italian Raven]

Honestly, I don't see the Rice comparison at all.. Ray was not as flashy in the open field, but more like an inside runner and much much better at breaking tackles. Bell is a cowbell and everything you wish a RB to have.. Rawls is not as versatile but much different.. Nothing against Dixon generally, but he goes down if hit by a fly. He is just a fun to watch, complementary outside runner that can be pulled to the slot. I'd say he's  a lot more like De'Anthony Thomas or DeAndre Washington (in this year's draft), who's a slower Duke Johnson.

[Tiznut]

22 hours ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

Not to take anything away from Emmitt Smith but his O-line at Dallas frequently opened up holes a vehicle could drive through and with holes like that your whole scheme argument is nill and void PERIOD . I will say it again I would be willing to bet Barry would have racked up 2500 + yards for sure behind that O-Line. I do agree with the fullback being added because Barry was begging for the Lions to add a fullback. As far as what Barry said I truly believe he did not want to take anything away from E. Smith's accomplishments and was just being polite. Have you looked at the stats Barry put up at OSU? What other RB has done that?

Must be why his back ups did horrible. Again if you were to give him an ol from another team it'd be Denvers based both in scheme and how they made numerous backs look 

[Winchester]

6 hours ago, Italian Raven said:

Honestly, I don't see the Rice comparison at all.. Ray was not as flashy in the open field, but more like an inside runner and much much better at breaking tackles. Bell is a cowbell and everything you wish a RB to have.. Rawls is not as versatile but much different.. Nothing against Dixon generally, but he goes down if hit by a fly. He is just a fun to watch, complementary outside runner that can be pulled to the slot. I'd say he's  a lot more like De'Anthony Thomas or DeAndre Washington (in this year's draft), who's a slower Duke Johnson.

I agree with the ray rice comparison. And the bell comparison. However Rice very often went down far more effortlessly by the tackler quite often. I do remember at games and sports bars numerous times people pounding  The table to give the ball to McGhee because how fast Rice went down. Rice at times broke tackles but went down quite easy at times.  Rice always ran behind at least a better than average oline. The one year the oline was average at best Rice averaged like 3 yards. I do acknowledge Dixon needs to get a little stronger but he is a worker and he will. Johnson is a good comparison but Dixon's moves are a little cleaner and more sudden with better ball skills. Dixon will likely eventually get to where he beats dbacks catching  from lined up with joe cool. He needs to get stronger but he has broken a lot of tackles, and ankles. Look at his lower body test numbers. Very explosive for a running back. Not many running backs are over 10' in the broad jump. I like Buck Allen as well and many are forgetting

[Tiznut]

21 hours ago, ravensdan said:

Why is this down voted?  It's 100% accurate. The line TD was behind would have been insane for Sanders. 

It's because it goes against the lazy "we'll give him the big line of Dallas" thinking that so many have gotten used to 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

3 minutes ago, Tiznut said:

Must be why his back ups did horrible. Again if you were to give him an ol from another team it'd be Denvers based both in scheme and how they made numerous backs look 

Emmitt would have been Barry's back-up I never said Barry could not thrive behind Denvers line I just said he would have been much better behind the Dallas line. Barry would have gotten to the 2 and 3 level of defenses before even being touched and that's something he has never had.

Edited July 4, 2016 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[Tiznut]

3 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

Emmitt would have been Barry's back-up

So? What does that have to do with the post about running styles and line play?

at what point do you and the others actually listen to Barry who said in detail why it wouldn't work out as well in Dallas and he even used the example of why he was taken out in goal line situations as the reason. 

 

I I mean really all you are so far on his jock but not a sole has bothered to quite or heed what he said about it himself. 

 

So you know Barry said he wouldn't have done well because the play would have the hole dictated and he was the type of back to skip a hole because he felt a bigger play was to be had elsewhere. This is why the Broncos scheme would have been ideal. 

Edited July 4, 2016 by Tiznut

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

2 minutes ago, Tiznut said:

So? What does that have to do with the post about running styles and line play?

at what point do you and the others actually listen to Barry who said in detail why it wouldn't work out as well in Dallas and he even used the example of why he was taken out in goal line situations as the reason. 

 

I I mean really all you are so far on his jock but not a sole has bothered to quite or heed what he said about it himself. 

 

So you know Barry said he wouldn't have done well because the play would have the hole dictated and he was the type of back to skip a hole because he felt a bigger play was to be had elsewhere. This is why the Broncos scheme would have been ideal. 

Wow I hit a nerve didn't I???? As far as Barry he was just being polite he never spoke out about himself or his abilities never bragged. Emmitt constantly got to the 2 and3 levels of the defense before being touched that's something Barry NEVER had if he would have like I said before Willing to bet 2500+ yard season. PERIOD!!!
 

[Winchester]

All this Barry Emmett talk is entertaining. Emmitt was a really good runner behind a legendary oline that was in front of its time with size strength and athleticism. The line was more athletic than many realize. However it is more entertaining to watch the ravens build the oline and front the best run game in the league behind Yanda Wagner Jensen Urschel and Stanley. KO may be missed at tackle but Jensen is going to be as great at guard. I compared the 2. KO while awesome at guard was a more natural tackle. With his length and how he liked to use it and latch on with big hands. He preferred playing tall which makes his power that much impressive. Jensen is 330 lbs and very very strong as well. However he plays with more leverage and lower than KO and actually enjoys a rumble in the trenches. AND he is athletic enough to play tackle if needed for a couple games. Jensen is going to be a household name and a trendy player for being an interior oline player. He is going to be on top100 next year!! Write it down!! And behind Jensen Yanda Wagner and Urschel Dixon and Buck Allen are igniting ravens run game legacy. Only thing left is for rookie Ron Stanley to follow Urschel like he's been doing and get stronger and in line with his line mates for the season. Ron Stanley following Urschel is a very very good sign that he is working to get stronger and play more intense like his line mates. A stronger more intense in better shape Ron Stanley is bad news for edge rushers. Because the dude is as technically sound and athletic as a left tackle gets. Behind these dudes Dixon could be very special.  The Ravens run game could be awesome.

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Is this still the Chris Moore and Kenneth Dixon thread?  Comparisons of RBs who never even played for the Ravens belong in Other NFL Teams, please.  Any more posts on that subject in this thread will be removed.