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Any reports on chris moore and kenneth dixon in otas?

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5 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

I think the trio of Forsett, Dixon and Allen will be a fabulous group of RBs. If Richardson or the Towson kid really do well, it's going to be really hard on cut day.

Yea, and West (Towson kid) has received great reviews this offseason too. Apparently showed up in great shape, ready to work, and has performed well. And dont forget Taliaferro, who offers something no one else really offers with his size and short yardage ability. He's especially effective on the goal line which is a plus.

Its already going to be hard just on the reputations alone. If they're all out there performing and upping their games - its gonna be darn near impossible. Our 5th and 6th guys who get cut may end up getting picked up by another team to be their #2. Thats crazy depth.

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4 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I remember when Moore got drafted and people on here blasted it for more well known names. Now Moore is getting everyone excited. I like it.

Sadly this is a common routine. Happens every time a lesser known prospect is drafted.

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2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Sadly this is a common routine. Happens every time a lesser known prospect is drafted.

I think the only small school one I saw that got a lot of love was Brandon Williams.

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11 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I remember when Moore got drafted and people on here blasted it for more well known names. Now Moore is getting everyone excited. I like it.

I think a lot of us fall prey to this, but its the two different ways to handle it which makes it different:

1- I have no clue who this guy is, I really wish they would of taken player x, I like him a lot more, but I will wait and see how he develops (this is me) to judge, he could be better.

2- What! they didn't take player x over this guy? this draft is a bust, the FO has lost it, they are old and out of touch with reality...dumb. \

Honestly, either one could end up being true, but making such judgments after the initial decision and not waiting for ANY results is the mistake. 

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12 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Lol... "Cow Bell' back. WE NEED MORE COW BELL. I got a feva, and the only prescription is more cow bell. You know, im like everyone else. I put my pants on one leg at time - just when I do I make gold records!

 

Sorry, a little fun at your expense. Its a "bell cow" back. 

Ah crap!

11 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I remember when Moore got drafted and people on here blasted it for more well known names. Now Moore is getting everyone excited. I like it.

Tbh Moore had to be the only WR drafted that I didn't know about. I wonder what grade I would have given him had I watched his tape before the draft. But quite frankly, seeing guys like Rashard Higgins or Mike Thomas or Kenny Lawler fall still makes me think there was huge value there. 

I'm still pretty happy we got Moore, esp with Perriman's injury. 

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They both were featured in 6 players who impressed during mini-camp in today's LFW article!

 

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The Ravens brought in the fourth-round pick as another big play threat, and that potential has been apparent this offseason. “Rookie wide receiver Chris Moore had his best practice of the offseason [Thursday] running with both the first and second team offenses,” wrote Brian Bower of Russell Street Report. “During 7-on-7 red zone drills, Moore caught two touchdown receptions against fellow rookie Tavon Youngicon-article-link.gif.”

 

RB Kenneth Dixonicon-article-link.gif

The Ravens have several running backs competing for snaps, and the rookie fourth-round pick made a case for himself to get more looks. “Rookie running back Kenneth Dixon put on a solid display running both inside the tackles and outside the tackles,” Bower wrote. “Quick to hit the gaps, the former Louisiana Tech standout had several long runs including a would-be touchdown early on in 11-on-11 team drills.”

 

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T young is going to be a very good player. But covering Chris Moore when you do not know his game is a tall order!! This guy is a sharper route runner than anybody realizes. When he starts lighting it up ravens fans are going to be stunned the ravens drafted this dude. Yes this is a ravens wr

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On 6/18/2016 at 3:02 PM, Winchester said:

T young is going to be a very good player. But covering Chris Moore when you do not know his game is a tall order!! This guy is a sharper route runner than anybody realizes. When he starts lighting it up ravens fans are going to be stunned the ravens drafted this dude. Yes this is a ravens wr

Contact less, pad less practice against someone arguably half his size. Makes sense. 

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On ‎6‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 5:42 PM, Sizzlebshu said:

Contact less, pad less practice against someone arguably half his size. Makes sense. 

He's going off of what he's seen on tape, the much better than advertised route running for a guy who was known As a deep specialist. He isnt just taking a training camp report and blowing it out of proportion. 

 

 

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On 6/16/2016 at 5:03 PM, BmoreBird22 said:

I remember when Moore got drafted and people on here blasted it for more well known names. Now Moore is getting everyone excited. I like it.

Yeah. I try to avoid commenting on guys I don't know for this reason. That's why I didn't comment on Jensen when we drafted him, Harewood, or now Moore. I like to keep track of guys in the draft, but I honestly hadn't heard of those guys when we drafted them.

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Kenneth Dixon is the new Ray Rice and might be a better version. On top of the vision, filthy open field jukes, great hands, natural route running, he runs HARD. He is also a little bigger than Rice which benefits him on routes. Buck Allen is also a promising back, but I could see Dixon becoming the workhorse. You don't score 87 TDs in 4 years for no reason. Watch how hard he runs against Oklahoma with no O-Line through 4 Quarters in a blowout. This is our guy. 

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Moore could actually get a chance to make splash plays deep. We have a bunch of receiving backs and are going to throw a lot with Trestman. The wildcard of the season if how we utilize the TEs. If we wanted to get physical, Joe was most effective last year with two TEs on the field and the threat of the run. The Boyle, Williams, and Crockett all got open and Joe found them easy. Why can't Watson, Crockett, Williams, and Pitta do the same in a rotation to keep them healthy? 

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2 hours ago, jravens1313 said:

Kenneth Dixon is the new Ray Rice and might be a better version. On top of the vision, filthy open field jukes, great hands, natural route running, he runs HARD. He is also a little bigger than Rice which benefits him on routes. Buck Allen is also a promising back, but I could see Dixon becoming the workhorse. You don't score 87 TDs in 4 years for no reason. Watch how hard he runs against Oklahoma with no O-Line through 4 Quarters in a blowout. This is our guy. 

Dixon reminds me more of McGahee

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54 minutes ago, Mahatma_Sloth said:

Dixon reminds me more of McGahee

His sidestep is on par, both he and mcgahee could stop and leap sideways 3-4 yards lightning fast, that sidestep juke is out of this world for both of them, Willis was far more powerful though. 

 

Honestly, I think Ray rice is a very solid comparison, he's more powerful and less elusive than say a shady mccoy. I think gio Bernard is a really good comp as well and dare I say... Leveon bell.

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6 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

His sidestep is on par, both he and mcgahee could stop and leap sideways 3-4 yards lightning fast, that sidestep juke is out of this world for both of them, Willis was far more powerful though. 

 

Honestly, I think Ray rice is a very solid comparison, he's more powerful and less elusive than say a shady mccoy. I think gio Bernard is a really good comp as well and dare I say... Leveon bell.

I forget who it was against, but Dixon side-stepped a defender in college and it was hilarious. Dude dove at Dixon and ended up clutching nothing but air. Thought he had him drilled for a short gain, and before he even hit the ground Dixon is 4 yards past him.

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6 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

His sidestep is on par, both he and mcgahee could stop and leap sideways 3-4 yards lightning fast, that sidestep juke is out of this world for both of them, Willis was far more powerful though. 

 

Honestly, I think Ray rice is a very solid comparison, he's more powerful and less elusive than say a shady mccoy. I think gio Bernard is a really good comp as well and dare I say... Leveon bell.

I actually see a little Arian Foster in Dixon. A little upright, long strides, and more of a cut and get up field type of guy than a dance around and juke guy... and also has the route-running and hands to be a very good receiver. He's probably a little more elusive than Foster and a better receiver though.

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The only comp I like is Ray Rice. To me Dixon is neither Bell nor Foster. He is smaller and bulkier, he has more quickness, he's also more tight in the spaces. He's got a Doug Martin like jump cut. There was also this Bills RB from the 90s or so, I saw highlights from him on FB and he looked like Kenneth a lot.

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Somebody said He is a combo Thomas Rawls/Dion lewis. I can see that. You can see dare I say it Marshall faulk but not quite the long speed of faulk. But he has very solid breakaway speed that should get better because he wanted to run sub 4.5 and took it personal when a scout or analyst Said he looked like a 4.55 guy. So he is working hard for 4.45 play speed while getting stronger. GIO Bernard is a good comp but Dixon's cuts are more sudden.

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3 hours ago, Winchester said:

Somebody said He is a combo Thomas Rawls/Dion lewis. I can see that. You can see dare I say it Marshall faulk but not quite the long speed of faulk. But he has very solid breakaway speed that should get better because he wanted to run sub 4.5 and took it personal when a scout or analyst Said he looked like a 4.55 guy. So he is working hard for 4.45 play speed while getting stronger. GIO Bernard is a good comp but Dixon's cuts are more sudden.

Dion Lewis is my favourite comp. Totally forgot him but they're the same when it comes to receiving. 

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On July 1, 2016 at 0:42 PM, Jacquouille said:

The only comp I like is Ray Rice. To me Dixon is neither Bell nor Foster. He is smaller and bulkier, he has more quickness, he's also more tight in the spaces. He's got a Doug Martin like jump cut. There was also this Bills RB from the 90s or so, I saw highlights from him on FB and he looked like Kenneth a lot.

23 Kenneth Davis or are you comparing him to Thurman Thomas 

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Lol.  I'm not calling anyone out here but I can't be the only one finding it funny that Dixon has been compared to Rice,  Willis McGahee, Faulk, McCoy, Bell,  Rawls and Lewis in this thread alone. No comparison to Forte or Tomlinson comparisons while we're at it?  

No cynicism here or thoughts directed at anyone in particular. I just found this observation funny lol.  

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On ‎6‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 2:20 AM, 757RavensFan said:

Agreed. Put Barry Sanders behind the O Line Emmitt had, OMG!!

You can say that 10 times over..... I would be willing to bet 2500+ yard season

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11 hours ago, Tiznut said:

23 Kenneth Davis or are you comparing him to Thurman Thomas 

I think it's Thurman Thomas. Will check though, thx 

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9 hours ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

You can say that 10 times over..... I would be willing to bet 2500+ yard season

Barry disagrees as he said the scheme in Dallas is not one he would have been comfortable with...

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3 minutes ago, Tiznut said:

Barry disagrees as he said the scheme in Dallas is not one he would have been comfortable with...

Not giving him the scheme, just the O-Line

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3 hours ago, ludy51 said:

Not giving him the scheme, just the O-Line

So then you're suggesting Dallas OL should play a scheme they weren't agreeable with then?  That's just as silly. Take drive blocking OL and ask them to zone block.

Due to Barry's preferred style and his own opinion Denvers OL would have been the dream.  

 

The only addition I'd have given Barry is a fullback like moose as Barry's best yr in Detroit came with a consistent fb blocking. 

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43 minutes ago, Tiznut said:

So then you're suggesting Dallas OL should play a scheme they weren't agreeable with then?  That's just as silly. Take drive blocking OL and ask them to zone block.

Due to Barry's preferred style and his own opinion Denvers OL would have been the dream.  

 

The only addition I'd have given Barry is a fullback like moose as Barry's best yr in Detroit came with a consistent fb blocking. 

Not to take anything away from Emmitt Smith but his O-line at Dallas frequently opened up holes a vehicle could drive through and with holes like that your whole scheme argument is nill and void PERIOD . I will say it again I would be willing to bet Barry would have racked up 2500 + yards for sure behind that O-Line. I do agree with the fullback being added because Barry was begging for the Lions to add a fullback. As far as what Barry said I truly believe he did not want to take anything away from E. Smith's accomplishments and was just being polite. Have you looked at the stats Barry put up at OSU? What other RB has done that?

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2 hours ago, Tiznut said:

So then you're suggesting Dallas OL should play a scheme they weren't agreeable with then?  That's just as silly. Take drive blocking OL and ask them to zone block.

Due to Barry's preferred style and his own opinion Denvers OL would have been the dream.  

 

The only addition I'd have given Barry is a fullback like moose as Barry's best yr in Detroit came with a consistent fb blocking. 

Why is this down voted?  It's 100% accurate. The line TD was behind would have been insane for Sanders. 

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