Any reports on chris moore and kenneth dixon in otas?

[JoeyFlex5]

Weddle, perriman, and Wallace have grabbed seemingly every single headline of otas, along with pittas return. But... 

 

2 very under the radar guys are dixon and Moore. Both seem to be a dream tailored fit for this offense, one being highly elusive and just an incredible pure runner with great 3rd down ability, the other having solid speed and the nuances to get open deep along with a great attacking mentality at wr. These guys have potential to be huge, but reports on how they are actually performing at camp seem to be nonexistent. There is speculation on OROY articles and what not but no real reports on how they look so far. 

 

Has anyone found anything regarding this?

[usmccharles]

I haven't.  But honestly I don't expect that much from Moore this year,  getting him snaps will be hard unless an injury.   Dixon gets a lot of praise and high expectations,  we might want to chill on that unless we cut Forsett.  I could see a year like Rice's rookie year 

Edited June 2, 2016 by usmccharles

[JoeyFlex5]

7 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I haven't.  But honestly I don't expect that much from Moore this year,  getting him snaps will be hard unless an injury.   Dixon gets a lot of praise and high expectations,  we might want to chill on that unless we cut Forsett. 

I think Dixon is by far the most talented back on the roster and if we go with the best performer rather than some nonsense like playing a veteran because they're a veteran, then I think Dixon would end up with quite a load by the end of the season. 

 

Moore is more of a future thing, I think he's a solid guy to develop with flacco because he's the kind of target flacco has always done well with. 

 

Regardless it would still be nice to get some word on how they look so far.

[usmccharles]

Dixon seems to have good vision,  but there has been a lot of college rbs that look great but just can't translate to the nfl.   I'm Hoping he works out and is our new Ray Rice. 

I agree,  I think Moore will benefit this year from Sr and Wallace.   Moore and BP could be Joe's guys for the next couple years.   

[Kinda_Dante]

Dixon has yet to take the practice field he has a tweaked hamstring since his pro day.

[JoeyFlex5]

6 minutes ago, Kinda_Dante said:

Dixon has yet to take the practice field he has a tweaked hamstring since his pro day.

Ahh I'm surprised I didnt know this... Well that explains a lot lol thanks

[Kinda_Dante]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Ahh I'm surprised I didnt know this... Well that explains a lot lol thanks

No problem! I'm excited to see him as well he was my favorite pick in this draft.

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, Kinda_Dante said:

No problem! I'm excited to see him as well he was my favorite pick in this draft.

Everything that I've read,  people praise that pick and sag how great that value is.   Some have no question about him being our future starter

[Kinda_Dante]

39 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Everything that I've read,  people praise that pick and sag how great that value is.   Some have no question about him being our future starter

For me he was the #2 RB to Elliot

[usmccharles]

Just now, Kinda_Dante said:

For me he was the #2 RB to Elliot

Yea i read that numerous times.   I don't think Henry does much  in the NFL 

[Kinda_Dante]

1 minute ago, usmccharles said:

Yea i read that numerous times.   I don't think Henry does much  in the NFL 

Yea he can't get his pad level low enough to last long in the NFL

[JimmyBlack]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Weddle, perriman, and Wallace have grabbed seemingly every single headline of otas, along with pittas return. But... 

 

2 very under the radar guys are dixon and Moore. Both seem to be a dream tailored fit for this offense, one being highly elusive and just an incredible pure runner with great 3rd down ability, the other having solid speed and the nuances to get open deep along with a great attacking mentality at wr. These guys have potential to be huge, but reports on how they are actually performing at camp seem to be nonexistent. There is speculation on OROY articles and what not but no real reports on how they look so far. 

 

Has anyone found anything regarding this?

I really think that Wallace and Weddle will be superstars for the Ravens this year!

[JimmyBlack]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think Dixon is by far the most talented back on the roster and if we go with the best performer rather than some nonsense like playing a veteran because they're a veteran, then I think Dixon would end up with quite a load by the end of the season. 

 

Moore is more of a future thing, I think he's a solid guy to develop with flacco because he's the kind of target flacco has always done well with. 

 

Regardless it would still be nice to get some word on how they look so far.

Some mock drafts had Dixon ranked as high as the 2nd round.  His statistics in college were amazing.  I think that he needs to gain a few pounds of muscle and work on hanging on to the ball.  Other than that, he is clearly our number 3 RB and occasional slot receiver on 3rd downs and in the red zone.

[Winchester]

Have not heard anything on Dixon  yet. Moore I hear looks sharper in routes than thought and snagged some tough catches from really awkward positions.  Never liked and rooted this much for a ravens drafted wr. Peculiar I have not heard anything about Dixon

Edited June 2, 2016 by Winchester

[rmw10]

3 hours ago, Winchester said:

Have not heard anything on Dixon  yet. Moore I hear looks sharper in routes than thought and snagged some tough catches from really awkward positions.  Never liked and rooted this much for a ravens drafted wr. Peculiar I have not heard anything about Dixon

I wouldn't say there's anything peculiar about not hearing anything about a guy that hasn't practiced.

[redrum52]

5 hours ago, Winchester said:

Have not heard anything on Dixon  yet. Moore I hear looks sharper in routes than thought and snagged some tough catches from really awkward positions.  Never liked and rooted this much for a ravens drafted wr. Peculiar I have not heard anything about Dixon

I think he's out with a hamstring.

[JoeyFlex5]

7 hours ago, Kinda_Dante said:

No problem! I'm excited to see him as well he was my favorite pick in this draft.

Same. I wasn't able to watch the 4th round so when I randomly checked up on it figuring Dixon went somewhere I. The 3rd... I was ECSTATIC to see we got him. always a good feeling when a player you've touted so highly for a long time ends up on your team lol

[JoeyFlex5]

6 hours ago, Kinda_Dante said:

Yea he can't get his pad level low enough to last long in the NFL

plus He doesn't have the one step acceleration to hit holes before they close in the nfl. I think at best he's a Marion barber who comes in on goal line and 4th quarter and breaks off some runs when the defenders aren't able to fly to the ball as quickly

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Word on Chris Moore is he's looked sharp. Needs work getting off the line in press situations, but his routes are good - better than anticipated. Hes made some circus catches too, though mostly during the rookie camp. One he made a hard cut, tried to come back for the ball and fell.... then while falling reached behind (the throw was poor and behind his momentum) from basically a laying position on his side and still made the catch with tight coverage on him from I believe Tavon Young.

Kenneth Dixon suffered a hamstring injury at his Pro Day and hasn't practiced since. Though reports indicate he's very close to returning. Excited to see how he'll do against NFL competition. Hopefully in his time off he's mastering the play book so he can just come in loose and play ball. Would love to see him earn a role early on in the season at least as a 3rd down back.... and work his way into a rotation of some sort where hes getting a good amount of snaps. Love the potential there.... I think he's going to be a very good, 3 down back early in his career - maybe even as we approach the playoffs - could see him having a Bernard Pierce like post season for us, breaking out as everyone expects Forsett/Buck to get the majority of carries and we surprise them by unleashing Dixon on em.

I think he'll be the best RB we've had since Rice's prime, and has the talent to be just as good if not better. He's elusive, has a great burst up field, has a nasty jump cut, and was the best back in college at catching the ball. More excited for him than almost any other rookie....

[Winchester]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

I wouldn't say there's anything peculiar about not hearing anything about a guy that hasn't practiced.

Well that explains it. With his skillset, if he were practicing there would of been some news or rumors around the gym. I know fans are excited about Wallace but I'm rooting on a rookie teammate to outperform him once again!! I really really like Chris Moore. He could of led ncaa in TD catches if his qb was not so terrible. He waited on every throw yet roasted round1 cornerbacks anyways. One element of his game I'm very intrigued with is his run after catch. He never got the opportunity cuz of his qb couldn't hit him in stride. With his elite burst it is interesting to see his run after catch in Trestmans offense.  I'm rooting for him to be a steal and Campanaro and Perriman avoid injury to set the standard for a young trio of WRs. Throw in max who is in far better shape this year and Dixon and ravens will have its best offense since the inaugural season when ravens were #2 in scoring in weeks 9-17. And With a powerful athletic oline and Watson for 2TE sets and the offense can really have some serious bragging rights!! Ravens can run various potent schemes blending run and throw, methodical drives and big plays. Having 2 TEs with wr speed and functional blocking skills will keep opponents off balance. Bring in extra dbacks to cover a te tandem that run and catch like big wrs and ravens dominant oline with big athletic TEs will blow opponents off the ball and penetrate for big play runs. Bring in packages to prevent the run and the TEs that run like WRs will torch opponents with big play throws. And there are yet 3 fast talented young WRs opponents have to play and contend with!?

[JoeyFlex5]

Thanks for that bold! So basically all what should be expected except for better than a anticipated routes. Good to hear. I think the biggest issue that prevents wrs from taking off early is beating press so I'm not concerned with that. 

 

In real excited about Moore because he just seems like such a perfect fit.

[usmccharles]

Any decent NFL comparisons to Moore? 

[JoeyFlex5]

9 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Any decent NFL comparisons to Moore? 

A shorter martavis Bryant I don't think is a bad jumping-off point for comparison. The respectable deep speed and great body control and tracking to attack the ball deep, can work his way open over the top with little pieces of footwork and shoulder movements.

[Winchester]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

Any decent NFL comparisons to Moore? 

Tough to say because we are not sure about his potential cuz his qb was so terrible. He waited on most throws. His route running is a surprise cuz he was never hit in stride on intermediate routes. His qb could not hit him in stride. I said after the draft to really scout his route running you have to watch games he was not the targeted wr and watch him zing in and out of breaks with suddenness sharpness and burst and say only if his qb could hit him while running that way!! He is taking yoga and gymnastics for flexibility so it is tough to say how good his skills are and could be. If I were to say what receiver you think of watching him play. I would guess he has similar skills to Marvin Jones. A very good wr overshadowed by very good options he shared targets with.  He has some similar skills of Emmanuel Sanders, John brown and Torrey Smith as well. In some ways he reminds you of maclin.

[usmccharles]

2 hours ago, Winchester said:

Tough to say because we are not sure about his potential cuz his qb was so terrible. He waited on most throws. His route running is a surprise cuz he was never hit in stride on intermediate routes. His qb could not hit him in stride. I said after the draft to really scout his route running you have to watch games he was not the targeted wr and watch him zing in and out of breaks with suddenness sharpness and burst and say only if his qb could hit him while running that way!! He is taking yoga and gymnastics for flexibility so it is tough to say how good his skills are and could be. If I were to say what receiver you think of watching him play. I would guess he has similar skills to Marvin Jones. A very good wr overshadowed by very good options he shared targets with.  He has some similar skills of Emmanuel Sanders, John brown and Torrey Smith as well. In some ways he reminds you of maclin.

All that could be said for BP in my opinion as well

I see a lot of the Emanuel Sanders in him.  That smooth, slippery type guy who works his way open.  I am excited for him, but i also know better than to get excited about WRs we draft

[Winchester]

Ravens will eventually hit on WRs now that it is actually drafting WRs. I like Malcolm Mitchell ever so light touch better than Chris Moore but Chris Moore is very skilled and one of the more underrated WRs in this and any draft!! He played with a terrible qb in a vanilla system and still thrashed top cornerbacks and made it look easy. Actually i would of found a way to take them as a tandem. Great athletes and ever so underrated!!

[Jacquouille]

2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

All that could be said for BP in my opinion as well

I see a lot of the Emanuel Sanders in him.  That smooth, slippery type guy who works his way open.  I am excited for him, but i also know better than to get excited about WRs we draft

I don't see Sanders at all when watching Moore. The only issue I'd have with Moore is his stiffness when running, that kind of reminds me of Perriman, but it's quite opposite to Sanders' agility. 

Honestly I don't have any comparison. 

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Ravens will eventually hit on WRs now that it is actually drafting WRs. I like Malcolm Mitchell ever so light touch better than Chris Moore but Chris Moore is very skilled and one of the more underrated WRs in this and any draft!! He played with a terrible qb in a vanilla system and still thrashed top cornerbacks and made it look easy. Actually i would of found a way to take them as a tandem. Great athletes and ever so underrated!!

Mitchell was great and I really liked him also, but his injury history is too concerning for us to take him in the 4th.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Jacquouille

[izvoodoo]

18 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think Dixon is by far the most talented back on the roster and if we go with the best performer rather than some nonsense like playing a veteran because they're a veteran, then I think Dixon would end up with quite a load by the end of the season. 

 

Moore is more of a future thing, I think he's a solid guy to develop with flacco because he's the kind of target flacco has always done well with. 

 

Regardless it would still be nice to get some word on how they look so far.

You say that until someone doesn't pick up a blitz or runs the wrong route.  

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

15 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

A shorter martavis Bryant I don't think is a bad jumping-off point for comparison. The respectable deep speed and great body control and tracking to attack the ball deep, can work his way open over the top with little pieces of footwork and shoulder movements.

idk how great of a comparison this is, but i liken him to Colston. Not particularly fast, but something deceptive in their strides that allows them to still be a lethal deep threat without that top end speed.... good body control, can go up and make tough catches, great hands, and good route runner.

Maybe not the greatest -- but its mostly in when i watch them play. Colston always looked like he was running in quick sand, but somehow pulled away from guys who looked much faster... was visually very confusing. I see a lot of that in Moore.

[Winchester]

15 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Any decent NFL comparisons to Moore? 

 

9 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

I don't see Sanders at all when watching Moore. The only issue I'd have with Moore is his stiffness when running, that kind of reminds me of Perriman, but it's quite opposite to Sanders' agility. 

Honestly I don't have any comparison. 

Mitchell was great and I really liked him also, but his injury history is too concerning for us to take him in the 4th.

Chris Moore is not stiff at all!! To get a handle on his fluid route running you have to watch him running routes where he was not the target. And watch him zinging in and out of breaks. You say he is stiff cuz you see him catching a lot of long throws. His qb could not hit him in traffic on intermediate routes. His qb is terrible!!  But you watch him running a route over the middle to throw the defense off and you see he is very sudden in his breaks and very explosive out of breaks. He has similar skills of Marvin jones, John Brown and even reminds you of Chad Johnson if you watch him run routes at top gear over the middle and how sudden he is. Now of a an can hit him in stride he will outperform many of the early round WRs. His play speed suggests a far faster 40 time!! He impressed at the senior bowl. Sometimes WRs do not run their best at the combine. Chad Johnson ran a 4.58 yet was lightning fast. Chris Moore pulled away from 4.3 cornerbacks.