[News] Late For Work 5/30: John Harbaugh Snubbed In NFL Coaches Ranking? Joe Flacco Trending Friday

[RavensDieHard21]

10 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Here's my list for HC rankings:
Belichick
Carroll
Harbaugh
Arians
Kubiak
McCarthy
Andy Reid
Marvin Lewis
Jack Del Rio
Tomlin

noooo lol, top three is right, but Arians has won one playoff game and 0 championships, 1 division title? Not squat yet. Kubiak just won, nut he inherited a great team. Lewis is a great regular season coach, but turns into the great pumpkin come playoff time

[RavensDieHard21]

Okay, here goes the most realistic rankings possible, based on longevity, winning %, division titles, championships, playoff wins, ability to make the right calls at the right time, having your players love playing for you, dealing with adversity and that's about it.

1.) Belicheck, whether we like it or not he has 4 rings and gets the most out of no name players that he picks to fill specific jobs, plus he is always ahead of the curve on every trend. 

2.) Carroll- After making the playoffs 5/6 years, building a championship team, Carroll has done no wrong outside of the atrocious play call that caused the Pats to hoist their fourth Lombardi trophy! Just give it to Lynch!

3.) Harbaugh- I could write a book here seriously, playoffs 6/8 years, a ring, 3 AFCC games, 10 playoff wins--7 on the road, great regular season's besides this anomaly season filled with tough breaks and injuries. The players love Harbaugh and he is an awesome coach. He makes great calls 3/4 times and has been a cornerstone for us. in 13' our roster was ravaged by departing talent and we still almost made the playoffs at 8-8. I see us bouncing back to at least a 9 win season. 

4.) Mike Tomlin- I know we hate him and they have been in a playoff drough, but the next batch of coaches id hard to choose from as they are all so close. He makes great calls and has kept Pitt from ever tanking. They are contenders every year basically. 

5.) Ron Rivera- People's mouth might hit the floor, especially because he hasn't won a championship, but he has built a championship caliber team that just witnessed its offense choke in the SB--their defense was ferocious. He has won coach of the year 2/3 years in a row. Has built a foundation and has won the division three straight times and his players obviously play hard for him and love his style of play. River boat Ron is a knock off version of the younger Belicheck, one heck of a defensive minded coach who also is aggressive in play calling and taking chances.  

6.) McCarthy- He consistently has great teams and makes the playoffs, but his team is an annual one and done. Great coach though. 

7.) Reid- despite not winning one, his longevity and ability to transform rosters is impressive. He has made the playoffs a heck of a lot with a lot of constant moving pieces. 

8.) Payton- Saints haven't been relevant in years, but once upon a time, Payton had a great team and showed off that he was an offensive guru, he also has a ring to help prove it. 

9.) Arians- Despite not being in ARZ long, they are constantly dangerous and are just a piece away from taking home the hardware. 

10.) Lewis- Even if he hasn't won a ring or a playoff game, the Bengals are a consisently good regular season team, Kubiak is perhaps a tie here, but he essentially inherited a championship team crafted by Elway and all he had to do was try to make his system work, which for the most part actually didn't as the run game was inconsistent, two all-star WR's looked terrible and Manning and Osweiler got dull dozed when not playing in shotgun.

[The Mom Gene]

You just never really get used to the media snubbing the Ravens. It's a shame how a great organization can be so dissed by the media and the league.

[gekaap]

Actually, I do need to argue with four Lombardi trophies: The man has built his entire career on a string of repeated cheating scandals. As for post season wins being an argument for Flacco's eliteness, that's even more stupid than calling Belicheat a great coach.

I'll buy Harbaugh being in the top 5 NFL coaches. But if you're going to write an article built on a nonsense premise like that, then don't even bother next time. Because, all you're doing is writing with the same superficial, unknowing lack of understanding and vision as the article you're complaining about. Just like USA Today, you're cranking out mindless fodder for the consumption of Leviathan feed stock.

Edited May 31, 2016 by gekaap

[salamander]

I am so glad the Ravens brought in Ray Rice to talk to the rookies. Despite how terrible the elevator incident was, Ray has proven to me many times over that he has redeemed himself and worthy of my respect. The NFL should embrace the opportunity to encourage other teams to have their rookies benefit from Ray's experience. Wishing Ray Rice the best in life, always.

[The Mom Gene]

  20 hours ago, BmoreB said:

  22 hours ago, crazyboutravens said:

What a surprise. John snubbed I am shocked. Mike Zimmer has not won a thing
as a HC. So, they snub John they snub Joe they snub the Ravens nothing new
here. Turn out the lights ( oh they already tried that ). Most people who write
these articles would not know a football from a donut.

The "turn out the lights" comment was pretty funny lol

On another note, I don't see Campanaro making the team. Too bad, so much potential and a MD guy to boot.

What's going to suck is watching Camp turn into the next Wes Welker after we cut him and the Patsies pick him up !

He already had a calf injury after week 1 of OTA's. Don't know if it was serious, maybe just a strain or a pull, but... not sure he can stay healthy enough. Do you honestly believe they'd pick up a player that has been consistently injured? I'm not so sure.

[The Mom Gene]

Do you believe that 5 minutes in pads is an unfair advantage?  But it broke the rules and we lost a week of OTA's.  That's what breaking the rules means.  HOW MUCH it affects is clearly irrelevant.

[rmcjacket23]

17 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

Do you believe that 5 minutes in pads is an unfair advantage?  But it broke the rules and we lost a week of OTA's.  That's what breaking the rules means.  HOW MUCH it affects is clearly irrelevant.

Or we just picked the wrong rule to break. We broke the rules that were put in place for the PR storm that came from being sued for billions of dollars by ex-NFL players.

Affect always matters. The difference here is that the affect comes straight to the bottom line, which is quite literally the one place the NFL will never tolerate anybody impacting negatively (nor should they).

I mean you don't really think the NFL comes down harshly on domestic violence all of the sudden because Roger woke up with a conscience and decided that it was the right thing to do? He came down harshly because he realized that sponsors (money) were heading out the door because the reaction wasn't harsh enough.

Hence, Roger will likely never be perceived as going "light" on any punishment ever again. And if that means going exceptionally excessive, so be it. 

[ellicottraven]

10 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

noooo lol, top three is right, but Arians has won one playoff game and 0 championships, 1 division title? Not squat yet. Kubiak just won, nut he inherited a great team. Lewis is a great regular season coach, but turns into the great pumpkin come playoff time

Okay. 

[harfordravenfan]

On 5/30/2016 at 10:39 AM, bioLarzen said:

If we think Harbaugh was "snubbed" because he's listed at #7 after an 5-11 season, how should the Broncos-fans feel about Kubiak not even making the list after helping their team go all the way - especially when there's Sean Payton there, who had about one good season the past decade?

Well said bio, well said

[FloridalovesRavens]

Sorry folks I can not give Belicheat any respect. He is a cheater plain and simple. I be!I've Habaugh is top five easily.

[20306cab]

Zimmer? Why? And I don't get the Peyton thing. Other than one year, what's he done, besides get himself suspended for a year. After a 5-11 year, Harbaugh at #7, shows the respect most still have for him.

[20306cab]

You just never really get used to the media snubbing the Ravens. It's a shame how a great organization can be so dissed by the media and the league.

How is the media dissing the Ravens? And by the way, I remember a lot of media "experts" picking the Ravens to go to the SB last year. What a shame.

[OzzieBisciotti]

Glad to hear missing man Perriman's father is doing better. Personally, I think Harbs would be ranked higher if he focused on coaching and not whining/ trying to catch cheats/ trying to beat the system either. Also, he can't all be blamed because Eric and Oz gave him a mess of a roster these last couple of years- he can only do so much with such old and below average talent- we don't have any base because we've drafted poorly over the past five years, and we've missed on not all but a lot of free agents (e.g. safety and wr positions)

[The Mom Gene]

12 hours ago, 20306cab said:

How is the media dissing the Ravens? And by the way, I remember a lot of media "experts" picking the Ravens to go to the SB last year. What a shame.

The Ravens were left out of NFL Media analyst Bucky Brooks’ list for the top-10 most talented NFL rosters, but two of Baltimore’s AFC North rivals made the cut.

The Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals were Nos. 2 and 7, respectively, which likely means Brooks believes Baltimore has the third-most talented roster out of the four-team division. That is, of course, unless he goes against the grain and takes the Browns over the Ravens.

 

Yeah, let's see...  Harbaugh???  And then there's that.-----^

[rmcjacket23]

10 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

The Ravens were left out of NFL Media analyst Bucky Brooks’ list for the top-10 most talented NFL rosters, but two of Baltimore’s AFC North rivals made the cut.

The Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals were Nos. 2 and 7, respectively, which likely means Brooks believes Baltimore has the third-most talented roster out of the four-team division. That is, of course, unless he goes against the grain and takes the Browns over the Ravens.

 

Yeah, let's see...  Harbaugh???  And then there's that.-----^

Fine line between "dissing" someone and telling actual facts. In this case, that margin is so small its almost unidentifiable. Don't think there's really a single realistic football fan that would take the Ravens roster over the Steelers or Bengals roster right now. Really is no basis for doing that.

[The Mom Gene]

19 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Fine line between "dissing" someone and telling actual facts. In this case, that margin is so small its almost unidentifiable. Don't think there's really a single realistic football fan that would take the Ravens roster over the Steelers or Bengals roster right now. Really is no basis for doing that.

I could give you quite a few Ravens players that could put us over the Bengals. Our current roster has many really good players on it that are much better than some of those on either of those teams.  That being said...  Given the discussion here. There's really no point.   

[rmcjacket23]

31 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

I could give you quite a few Ravens players that could put us over the Bengals. Our current roster has many really good players on it that are much better than some of those on either of those teams.  That being said...  Given the discussion here. There's really no point.   

Quite a few isn't that many when looking at a team of 46 on gameday. The Bengals are among the deepest teams in the league (a very huge weakness of this team in the last two seasons and still is) and they continuously retain a lot of the players they want to retain, with most of them being exceptional.

 

[The Mom Gene]

56 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Quite a few isn't that many when looking at a team of 46 on gameday. The Bengals are among the deepest teams in the league (a very huge weakness of this team in the last two seasons and still is) and they continuously retain a lot of the players they want to retain, with most of them being exceptional.

 

Like I said....  Really no point.