Matt Elam and Arthur Brown- Pride getting in the way?

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Just now, Sami84 said:

also..i stated in 2013 we wouldnt make the playoffs. Correct

I said in 2014 with kubiak we would..correct

I said last year we wouldnt make it..Correct

 

sometimes you gotta give credit where credit is due.

For the record, we will make the playoffs this year.

 

 

 

So you made the same predictions as just about everybody else?

Congrats. How truly gifted you are...

I'll make a prediction while we are at it... it will be Sunny in Baltimore tomorrow. I'll make another prediction... sometime in the next 8 hours, I will use the bathroom.

If you want more obvious predictions that require very little thought and no accountability for failure, I'm here all week. Just send me a message and I'll be happy to provide some.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, Tiznut said:

The Ravens consistently give udfa chances. if they can play they'll get to play. Think the only udfa we didn't find room for that turned out good was James Harrison 

in fairness though, we didnt sign him as an UDFA - the steelers did. i think they cut him, we added him to our PS and then the following year the Steelers suffered an injury at OLB and resigned harrison bc of his familiarity with the scheme. A year later he blossomed.

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1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

I'd say i've got around 75% of it right. I pleaded for Ty Mathieu in the 2013 draft..it wouldnt have been a popular choice but i said he was a baller.

Cool. You're a C student. That makes you the definition of average.

[Sami84]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Cool. You're a C student. That makes you the definition of average.

ouch..that would make de costa upgradeable he'd be so bad.

[ludy51]

8 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

so that was it? 

Yup...

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2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

ouch..that would make de costa upgradeable he'd be so bad.

Whatever helps you feel better about that 2.0 bud...

[Sami84]

11 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

7 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah, because calling Elam and Brown a bust after three years is "going against the grain". You're right... you're in the very smallest of minorities there. Most people think these guys are studs and have done a great job.

Good lord. 

I can tell you what a "real fan" isn't. A real fan isn't somebody who thinks they could do a better job. Those aren't "real fans". Those are, as Bryce Harper would say, "clowns".

 

after three years? seriously? I said elam was the worst saftey prospect i've seen drafted in the first round ever. The only one whos talking rubbish right now is you. I said it while ppl here were saying he was the new bob sanders LMAO

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Just now, Sami84 said:

 

And yet, you can't actually vouch any of this. Ain't convenience a great thing?

[Sami84]

go to my posts..enjoy..also, members who have a memory better than a goldfish remember my rant on elam when we drafted him. 

 

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I will say, there was one UDFA safety that got cut while Elam was kept that in hindsight I wish wouldve gotten a chance in regular season games - Omar Brown.

Dude balled out every preseason he was here with INT's, forced fumbles and fumble recoveries but never really got a shot. Now, no one else has picked him up so chances are they were right.... but who knows. some guys are just gamers.

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2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

go to my posts..enjoy..also, members who have a memory better than a goldfish remember my rant on elam when we drafted him. 

 

 

I did that. Lets look some of my favorites shall we...

"Pitta is 29 and is looking for his first payday. Draft amaro or ebron. Sign a wr free agent. 2nd round go for an o linesman. Resign monroe and daryl smith."

 17 Feb 2014

Advocate dumping Pitta (smart move), while simultaneously advocating we draft either Eric Ebron or Jace Amaro (yikes). You were also part of the pro resign Eugene Monroe movement (how's that working out so far?)

Followed up by:

"There are 15 players way higher ranked . 4 qbs clowney, barr watkins are 100 percent certainties to be top 14 picks. I am certain ebron will be there for us at 16. Also plenty of indemand o linesman. In such a loaded draft no doubt ebronwill be there. I dont think the patriots will trade up 13 places."

 17 Feb 2014

This is when you guaranteed Ebron would be available for us to pick (he wasn't, nor should we have taken him).

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Here's a gem on "playmaking" Omar Brown (yes, him)...

"just play omar brown..seriously..every team has a weak point..lets focus on the O-line and recieving options. OMar Brown can make plays..sure he isnt perfect but i dont see any rod woodsons out there"

 14 Mar 2014

[Sami84]

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I will say, there was one UDFA safety that got cut while Elam was kept that in hindsight I wish wouldve gotten a chance in regular season games - Omar Brown.

Dude balled out every preseason he was here with INT's, forced fumbles and fumble recoveries but never really got a shot. Now, no one else has picked him up so chances are they were right.... but who knows. some guys are just gamers.

 

sometimes a lot of these guys just need a chance! a chance to play and show what they can do..and they just arent given that chance. THey could have turned out to be ballers, but we'll never know..

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Just now, Sami84 said:

sometimes a lot of these guys just need a chance! a chance to play and show what they can do..and they just arent given that chance. THey could have turned out to be ballers, but we'll never know..

They're all given chances. Its called OTAs, training camp, preseason, etc. 

 

[Sami84]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

They're all given chances. Its called OTAs, training camp, preseason, etc. 

 

 

i've seen UDFA's impress in all facets but never get an actual chance. 

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Just now, Sami84 said:

i've seen UDFA's impress in all facets but never get an actual chance. 

But you're not in a position to judge who's impressive and who's not. The resume isn't there.

[rmcjacket23]

This one made me literally laugh out loud...

"From what i have read james hurst if not injured would have been the 7th best tackle in the draft. He is also according to my bud whos a bit of a guru better then wagner. He said without doubt its the biggest steal out of all the udfa. Im feeling much better"

 10 May 2014

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

They're all given chances. Its called OTAs, training camp, preseason, etc. 

 

That is true... But Omar Brown for instance definitely showed playmaking ability every time he touched the field. It just never happened in the regular season. Ihedigbo I could understand bc he was peforming, and they wanted to give Elam a shot as a 1st rounder - i probably wouldve done the same.

But seeing how the Huff/Elam experiment worked out... Brown deserved a shot there. I admit I advocated for the signing of Huff bc he had a great season as a corner the year before in Oakland and thought wed use him as a FS, slot corner hybrid... but instead made him a high safety where his tackling deficiencies and fear of contact when someones running full steam were exploited (visions of Julius Thomas carrying him 20 yards into the endzone.... ugh).

But - Brown I thought showed enough playmaking to deserve a shot. Ed Reed thought so too.

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9 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

Such a robotic response. Ciao tool.

See ya. I'll just keep posting all the false claims you previously made. I'm enjoying it. 

Thanks for waving the white flag though.

Edited May 25, 2016 by rmcjacket23