[News] Late For Work 5/24: Most Offensive Weapons In Ravens History? 45 Roster Locks

[BR News]

There are really only nine or so roster spots up for grabs. It’s safe to say Monroe will miss OTAs Wednesday. NFL’s replay proposal may look a bit like the Ravens’. Will C.J. Mosley return to Pro Bowl?

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[757RavensFan]

If Clifton Brown's prediction is right, that means you'll have 45 guys trying out for 8 available spots on the final 53.  Good luck fellas!!

[Ravensfansince03]

Ummm, Wth Monroe, you'd think your teammates would be more important?

[stixfix69]

With Monroe coming off recent surgery i don't think it's a big issue, as other vets skip these, plus whether he stays or goes really is out of his hands, if he is healthy we could use him, if the FO feel Stanley is ready they can cut him June 1st and i think gain 6 mil in cap space....

[Tobenna_MBA]

We need to keep monroee at LT and start Stanley at guard at least for one more season! We will have an elite offensive line with him and a suspect one without... Stanley has potential but is unproven as a rookie LT will be a liability and it will have a trickle down effect to the pass and run game. Let Monroe lose the job to injury or performance

I don't see how we keep pitta, there aren't enough reps for 5 TE. Pitta and Gilmore are injury prone. Gilmore is a beast but his style of play keeps him in the training room. Pitta is one more hip fracture away from serious health problems. Then there's our rookie max Williams who honestly hasn't shown me enough to sleep at night. Not the strongest run blocker and separation ability needs work..butt he was a 2nd round pick so hoping for a big season. Watson is an an expensive one year deal, he's 35 not sure if he can replicate last year's production i see him rotating in on passing downs though I am hopeful.

Kenneth Dixon is a stud and once healthy I think he has a chance to win the job but I worry about his fumble tendencies let's slow the crowning of the starting job. Forset appeared to be losing burst b4 the injury (4.2 ypc from 5 the year b4 ) and without the zone blocking scheme and chop block I wonder how effective he will be moving forward. Buck Allen seems to be getting overlooked for some reason and I vividly remember him making big plays in the screen and passing game. Taliaferro is a bruiser but can't finish a season. Richardson is a bruiser but can't find the hole, hoping our much improved offensive line will make his job easier and allow him to wear down defenses, hoping he can be the high round draft pick from years ago. Terrence west seems to be the odd man out. Tough I liked him but I wondering what his role would even be with us. We have 2 power backs and two receiving backs and then forset who's balanced. What's wests' separation.

Perrimen is a wild card. I don't know own what we will get from him. For some reason I just don't see him staying healthy. He still hasn't looked right or 100%. For that reason I like Mike Wallace/Chris Moore as the outside burner. SSS will work the slot in rotation with Kamar Aiken and Reynolds. I'm over campanaro. Seen enough at this point. He's got potential but his availability is an issue. When healthy he makes it interesting.

Side note I don't like Webb and waddle at safety. Webb is undersized visions of that Miami game with him essentially holding onto a guys knees as he gets mossed in the end zone deep, has shown to be an inconsistent tackler I can't shake that play of the Browns player absolutely breaking his ankles in the open field. I think he can cover but his tackling and injury issues worry me about him at the position. I'd rather have kept hill, weddle I hope still has the speed and range to play deep.

[potomacpitbulls]

I agree with the 45 locked players.

My 8 would be:

Judon, Ochi, Pitta, Campanaro, Clay, Reynolds, Wesley, Richardson

My PS favorites are (Sam) Brown, Nembot, West, Onwuasor, Beyer, Waller, Clausell, Canady, Wilson, (Daniel) Brown.

Sadly, Trey Walker will not be on that list. If the rules would allow I would love to see the ravens start with 52 with Walker named posthumously as the starting corner and the 53rd man for the first week, then pick up the 53rd from the PS week 2.

[757RavensFan]

12 minutes ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

Ummm, Wth Monroe, you'd think your teammates would be more important?

He hasn't been cleared yet, so he wouldn't be able to practice anyway.  

 

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I agree with the 45 locked players.

My 8 would be:

Judon, Ochi, Pitta, Campanaro, Clay, Reynolds, Wesley, Richardson

My PS favorites are (Sam) Brown, Nembot, West, Onwuasor, Beyer, Waller, Clausell, Canady, Wilson, (Daniel) Brown.

Sadly, Trey Walker will not be on that list. If the rules would allow I would love to see the ravens start with 52 with Walker named posthumously as the starting corner and the 53rd man for the first week, then pick up the 53rd from the PS week 2.

So you'd roll into the season with just 2 safeties and 4 corners?

[stixfix69]

Sticking with Judon, Henry, and Dixon, aside from the top 3 picks as making consistent plays for us.....Just wish one of them would be a ILBer, still curious to see if we sign a vet or go through OTA's to see if AB, or Orr has made a big enough jump to be comfortable going into the season with...

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Ummm, Wth Monroe, you'd think your teammates would be more important?

Doom isnt there. Yanda prob wont be there. Webb may not be. Daryl Smith rarely was. If Suggs wasnt rehabbing he wouldnt be. Monroe isnt cleared so he'd only be there to rehab his injury... him taking a day off from that isnt a big deal. He's a notorious hard worker -- thats not a question. This is an important issue to him, and its an honor to be asked to speak on a panel like that. Good for him. Man, with the way some of this fan base treats this guy, you'd think he failed multiple drug tests like Will Hill or Josh Gordon; or that he had multiple arrests. He's had injuries which he cant control, and he's an advocate for the medical use of marijuana instead of opiates which are very addicting and can destroy lives. If theres a safer, less damaging and just as effective alternative - - whats so wrong with getting behind that??

[bioLarzen]

Those massive chains around Forsett's shoulders will turn into an even meaner stiff-arm on the field.

Edited May 24, 2016 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

Ummm, Wth Monroe, you'd think your teammates would be more important?

You realize a lot of other vested veterans dont participate, right? Yanda, Suggs, Webb - or, in the past, Ed, Ray Lewis, JJ, Ngata...

These voluntary workouts are usually for the rookies and those who come back from injuries and are cleared for practice (which Monroe isn't), or veterans who are new to the team (like Weddle and Wallace). There is no surprise at all the Monroe isn't participating. In fact, this article is a tiny beat mean on him, as it may make it seem like he chose the conference over the practice, because hes more interested in the former than the latter.

[respecttheRaven]

8 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Doom isnt there. Yanda prob wont be there. Webb may not be. Daryl Smith rarely was. If Suggs wasnt rehabbing he wouldnt be. Monroe isnt cleared so he'd only be there to rehab his injury... him taking a day off from that isnt a big deal. He's a notorious hard worker -- thats not a question. This is an important issue to him, and its an honor to be asked to speak on a panel like that. Good for him. Man, with the way some of this fan base treats this guy, you'd think he failed multiple drug tests like Will Hill or Josh Gordon; or that he had multiple arrests. He's had injuries which he cant control, and he's an advocate for the medical use of marijuana instead of opiates which are very addicting and can destroy lives. If theres a safer, less damaging and just as effective alternative - - whats so wrong with getting behind that??

I SO agree with you.....Monroe only missed like 5 games or so in 5yrs with the Jag's. Sadly he has missed a lot of games with us, which I am quite sure he was not happy about either. When healthy, Monroe is quite capable of protecting Flacco and the left side. Sadly, with injuries, you just don't know when and how bad they are going to be. 

[WNC-Raven]

My hope is that Dixon has a decent year rotating in as depth and next year takes that leap into our #1 back. That's how I remember Rice coming in as a rotational player with McGahee and LeRon only to really take off the following year. If I remember correctly not many were even talking about ray rice until that second year. Oh how social media has changed the world.

[sami]

We need to keep monroee at LT and start Stanley at guard at least for one more season! We will have an elite offensive line with him and a suspect one without... Stanley has potential but is unproven as a rookie LT will be a liability and it will have a trickle down effect to the pass and run game. Let Monroe lose the job to injury or performance

I don't see how we keep pitta, there aren't enough reps for 5 TE. Pitta and Gilmore are injury prone. Gilmore is a beast but his style of play keeps him in the training room. Pitta is one more hip fracture away from serious health problems. Then there's our rookie max Williams who honestly hasn't shown me enough to sleep at night. Not the strongest run blocker and separation ability needs work..butt he was a 2nd round pick so hoping for a big season. Watson is an an expensive one year deal, he's 35 not sure if he can replicate last year's production i see him rotating in on passing downs though I am hopeful.

Kenneth Dixon is a stud and once healthy I think he has a chance to win the job but I worry about his fumble tendencies let's slow the crowning of the starting job. Forset appeared to be losing burst b4 the injury (4.2 ypc from 5 the year b4 ) and without the zone blocking scheme and chop block I wonder how effective he will be moving forward. Buck Allen seems to be getting overlooked for some reason and I vividly remember him making big plays in the screen and passing game. Taliaferro is a bruiser but can't finish a season. Richardson is a bruiser but can't find the hole, hoping our much improved offensive line will make his job easier and allow him to wear down defenses, hoping he can be the high round draft pick from years ago. Terrence west seems to be the odd man out. Tough I liked him but I wondering what his role would even be with us. We have 2 power backs and two receiving backs and then forset who's balanced. What's wests' separation.

Perrimen is a wild card. I don't know own what we will get from him. For some reason I just don't see him staying healthy. He still hasn't looked right or 100%. For that reason I like Mike Wallace/Chris Moore as the outside burner. SSS will work the slot in rotation with Kamar Aiken and Reynolds. I'm over campanaro. Seen enough at this point. He's got potential but his availability is an issue. When healthy he makes it interesting.

Side note I don't like Webb and waddle at safety. Webb is undersized visions of that Miami game with him essentially holding onto a guys knees as he gets mossed in the end zone deep, has shown to be an inconsistent tackler I can't shake that play of the Browns player absolutely breaking his ankles in the open field. I think he can cover but his tackling and injury issues worry me about him at the position. I'd rather have kept hill, weddle I hope still has the speed and range to play deep.

Maxx had a better rookie season than Heap or Pitta. I look for big things coming from Maxx.

[WNC-Raven]

  36 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Doom isnt there. Yanda prob wont be there. Webb may not be. Daryl Smith rarely was. If Suggs wasnt rehabbing he wouldnt be. Monroe isnt cleared so he'd only be there to rehab his injury... him taking a day off from that isnt a big deal. He's a notorious hard worker -- thats not a question. This is an important issue to him, and its an honor to be asked to speak on a panel like that. Good for him. Man, with the way some of this fan base treats this guy, you'd think he failed multiple drug tests like Will Hill or Josh Gordon; or that he had multiple arrests. He's had injuries which he cant control, and he's an advocate for the medical use of marijuana instead of opiates which are very addicting and can destroy lives. If theres a safer, less damaging and just as effective alternative - - whats so wrong with getting behind that??

I SO agree with you.....Monroe only missed like 5 games or so in 5yrs with the Jag's. Sadly he has missed a lot of games with us, which I am quite sure he was not happy about either. When healthy, Monroe is quite capable of protecting Flacco and the left side. Sadly, with injuries, you just don't know when and how bad they are going to be. 

Didnt I hear that Monroe had surgery last fall to hopefully repair whatever damage he has and that after almost a full year of rest and rehab plus a little luck, he may be past being so injury prone this year?
maybe he will lock down the left side at LT while Stanley takes over at LG? I feel like a big part of the reason the Ravens chose Stanley is because of his versatility on the line. A year at LG may be beneficial to him and the team as a whole.

[fusuymada]

I believe if Pitta can physically play, with his history of production, he is a lock as well. I am sure the front office knows what it plans to do with Monroe and with Ozzie saying that nothing can be done until he is cleared by the medical staff, it sounds like they are getting rid of him. Personally, the way he has stuck it to the Ravens, I would hold on to him until the final cuts and make him find a team with only a week before the season. I would not do him any favors by cutting him loose earlier than we had to. He couldn't get motivated to play and practice so we have no motivation to make things easy on him.

[stixfix69]

In a year or two i really think Dixon could be a RR clone, as far as talent,,,,And i think he runs a wheel route better than RR, as RR basically was the bubble screen guy...:) heck with it, i love all 90 players, and wiah the rosters could expand to 90....)

[Tru11]

1 hour ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

Ummm, Wth Monroe, you'd think your teammates would be more important?

did you read the article?

[ellicottraven]

The 8 other players that'll make the team: Monroe, Judon, Taliaferro, Ochi, Arthur Brown, Reynolds, Brooks and a ILB free agent. I don't think Elam or Campanaro make it unless they perform without injury for the entire TC and perform well. Then, Arthur Brown will be replaced by one of them. If Monroe indeed gets released, then 2 of 3 positions will be taken from Camp, Elam and Brown. Again, a whole lot of speculation without TC performance indicators.

[RavensDieHard21]

We need to keep monroee at LT and start Stanley at guard at least for one more season! We will have an elite offensive line with him and a suspect one without... Stanley has potential but is unproven as a rookie LT will be a liability and it will have a trickle down effect to the pass and run game. Let Monroe lose the job to injury or performance

I don't see how we keep pitta, there aren't enough reps for 5 TE. Pitta and Gilmore are injury prone. Gilmore is a beast but his style of play keeps him in the training room. Pitta is one more hip fracture away from serious health problems. Then there's our rookie max Williams who honestly hasn't shown me enough to sleep at night. Not the strongest run blocker and separation ability needs work..butt he was a 2nd round pick so hoping for a big season. Watson is an an expensive one year deal, he's 35 not sure if he can replicate last year's production i see him rotating in on passing downs though I am hopeful.

Kenneth Dixon is a stud and once healthy I think he has a chance to win the job but I worry about his fumble tendencies let's slow the crowning of the starting job. Forset appeared to be losing burst b4 the injury (4.2 ypc from 5 the year b4 ) and without the zone blocking scheme and chop block I wonder how effective he will be moving forward. Buck Allen seems to be getting overlooked for some reason and I vividly remember him making big plays in the screen and passing game. Taliaferro is a bruiser but can't finish a season. Richardson is a bruiser but can't find the hole, hoping our much improved offensive line will make his job easier and allow him to wear down defenses, hoping he can be the high round draft pick from years ago. Terrence west seems to be the odd man out. Tough I liked him but I wondering what his role would even be with us. We have 2 power backs and two receiving backs and then forset who's balanced. What's wests' separation.

Perrimen is a wild card. I don't know own what we will get from him. For some reason I just don't see him staying healthy. He still hasn't looked right or 100%. For that reason I like Mike Wallace/Chris Moore as the outside burner. SSS will work the slot in rotation with Kamar Aiken and Reynolds. I'm over campanaro. Seen enough at this point. He's got potential but his availability is an issue. When healthy he makes it interesting.

Side note I don't like Webb and waddle at safety. Webb is undersized visions of that Miami game with him essentially holding onto a guys knees as he gets mossed in the end zone deep, has shown to be an inconsistent tackler I can't shake that play of the Browns player absolutely breaking his ankles in the open field. I think he can cover but his tackling and injury issues worry me about him at the position. I'd rather have kept hill, weddle I hope still has the speed and range to play deep.

Where is the fifth worthy TE? Maxx, Watson, Gilmore are locks and if healthy, then Pitta.

I agree, Monroe deserves to still be here for another year as he gives us versatility and a deep line.

Webb and Weddle both have ball skills, coverage skills, and vision. Hill was a solid play maker at times and was a hard hitter, but he obviously liked reefer more than being a Ravens so bye bye. Webb is actually a solid tackler, he wraps up and obviously from time to time an offensive player will make plays. It happens.

[RavensDieHard21]

My predictions: Monroe makes the team and we have awesome depth at O-Line with him, Stanley, Urschel, Zuttah, Jensen, Yanda, Wagner, and Lewis.

The three running backs we think will make it will, with Forsett, Buck and Dixon.

For receivers, SSS, Aiken, Wallace, Perriman, Moore, and I like Matthews and Reynolds to make it as well.

Judon, Arrington, and Art Brown will make the team too.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

The 8 other players that'll make the team: Monroe, Judon, Taliaferro, Ochi, Arthur Brown, Reynolds, Brooks and a ILB free agent. I don't think Elam or Campanaro make it unless they perform without injury for the entire TC and perform well. Then, Arthur Brown will be replaced by one of them. If Monroe indeed gets released, then 2 of 3 positions will be taken from Camp, Elam and Brown. Again, a whole lot of speculation without TC performance indicators.

So you would feel good about going into the season with just 3 safeties and 4 CB's? Especially with our history of injuries at the position the past 2 years? Not saying it cant or wont happen.... just curious.

[Halshayeji]

1 hour ago, potomacpitbulls said:

I agree with the 45 locked players.

My 8 would be:

Judon, Ochi, Pitta, Campanaro, Clay, Reynolds, Wesley, Richardson

My PS favorites are (Sam) Brown, Nembot, West, Onwuasor, Beyer, Waller, Clausell, Canady, Wilson, (Daniel) Brown.

Sadly, Trey Walker will not be on that list. If the rules would allow I would love to see the ravens start with 52 with Walker named posthumously as the starting corner and the 53rd man for the first week, then pick up the 53rd from the PS week 2.

I don't think Waller would last a minute on the PS. Someone will pick him up off waivers. If we really need to put him on the PS then just trade him away for a late pick.

Rest in peace Walker. I would really appreciate it if we start the season opener with 10 men on the field. Even though Walker wasnt a starter, we did lose one of our own and it's only right to do so. Even if it costs us 7 points it's worth it imo. 

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

Cutting Monroe at this point in the offseason makes little to no sense.The team would be better with him this season than without him.Having Stanley and Monroe at LG-LT is worlds better than having anyone else at LG and a rookie Stanley at LT.We could even probably try Monroe at LG if Stanley looks like something special at camp and he would be a better option than the other guys.The only positive from cutting Monroe is an extra $2 million in cap space in 2017 if they decide to cut him this year as opposed to if they decide to release him next year.That $2 million would be better served keeping Monroe on the team this year for OL depth since Joe is coming back from injury.Also,Biscotti was adamant about keeping him at the yearly presser so why would he change his mind now?I'm sure he knew drafting a LT was a big possibility when he took such a firm stance.That said,it wouldn't shock me one bit if we did cut him,because I didn't think they would actually draft Stanley so who knows what they'll do.

[steelcityraven]

Monroe is gone post June 1 and he knows it!

[Jacquouille]

You don't throw a rookie as the starting LT. You just don't.

[VermontRaven]

I agree with the 45. Here are my additions: Pitta, Reynolds, Monroe (or if he is cut/traded, I think we will have 1 other lineman), Brooks, Will Davis....then 3 other players out of these options: Waller, Campanero, Judon, Ochi, Taliaferro, Trent Richardson, Terrance West

[rmcjacket23]

39 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

I don't think Waller would last a minute on the PS. Someone will pick him up off waivers. If we really need to put him on the PS then just trade him away for a late pick.

Rest in peace Walker. I would really appreciate it if we start the season opener with 10 men on the field. Even though Walker wasnt a starter, we did lose one of our own and it's only right to do so. Even if it costs us 7 points it's worth it imo. 

I doubt any team would give up a draft pick for Waller, considering they could have just drafted him themselves last year. Not like he really showed anything since then to make teams all of the sudden perceive him as being better than he was already projected to be.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he passed through waivers. We always tend to overvalue our players when we think what other teams might do. 

[WNC-Raven]

I don't see the benefit in cutting Monroe next week. I think we have something like 8 million left in cap space. I think we look pretty good at all positions except ILB. My hope and probably Ozzies is that a starting vet is released sometime between now and August. That 8 million is more than enough. I think if someone really coveted by the Ravens at any position is available then maybe they let Monroe go to sign them. Otherwise I dont see the urgency. Thoughts?