My take on the draft and the Offseason

[JoeyFlex5]

5 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Agreed... he used a sick counter spin move against both tackles in the game against cinci and produced 2 sacks from them. down right abused em

I love his underhook, it's really impressive for a guy his height because he plays high but he can engage the underhook from a hell of a distance because of his long arms and then he coils up and explodes upwards and knocks the tackle off balance and pivots the tackle inside. And that's a move you need to rush from a 3 point stance to really use effectively.

[Winchester]

38 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think he's an edge rusher too that's why I labeled him a 5t. Which is still an edge rusher of sorts in my book lol. 34de can have a wide range of jobs and being a 5t edge rusher is one of them. 

 

And I don't think he's weak, I just think He plays high and it kills His functional strength at times, so I think having him rush while already standing up is counterproductive, having him come out of the 3 or 4 point outside of the tackles shoulder I think is the best way to highlight his strengths. He works the tackles outside shoulder VERY well when he engages, it's really what he does Best.

That's it then lol. I consider a 3-4 defensive end an interior player. And if the offense wants to it can isolate the 34 defensive ends to the interior. Kufusi, Henry and Ron Stanley should get in Ben Watson's hip pocket. The dude is a walking encyclopedia of info on cutting fat/gaining speed, building muscle/adding power and explosion. With his help Kufusi could reshape his body and tack on sufficient speed to play 34 rush olb. Although 43 defensive end is his best position. Will Henry training and learning from Ben Watson will be an outright unlockable freak. He is already explosive enough to play LB yet can hold up as a 2gap. He cuts 12-16 lbs and tacks on 12-14 lbs of functional muscle with some coaching up he could be next to unblockable. He reminds me so much of Atkins coming out!! Atkins was 285-293. I said he is undersized but strong and explosive. If he tacks on 10-12 lbs of muscle he could be top 3 penetrator. He surpassed even what I thought he could be. Before his injury he was the best penetrator in the league. Henry has very similar raw skill. Atkins was slightly more matured coming out. He was a gym addict all through college. Whereas Henry just recently found his obsession of getting faster and stronger.

[ravensdan]

23 hours ago, Winchester said:

Back on subject. Kufusi is likely going to be a 43 defensive end or 34 rush olb. So when he cuts 16-20 lbs of bad weight and adds 10-14 lbs of muscle he will gain a step of explosion. His game speed should be about 4.75. His broad jump should be a little less than 10'. His vertical about 33-35". And his 3cone will be sub7. He will settle in at a leaner and more explosive yet stronger 280-285lbs Not quite the athlete that Peppers is but it is in the category of freak of an athlete for his size. I never really watched much of Peppers. Is Peppers play style similar to Kufusi?? To where their games could be somewhat similar?? Kufusi at these measureables would at least be a feared edge rusher even if he is not compared to Julius Peppers. 

 

Come to think of it Mario Williams is a good signing for his cost. A freak like he and Peppers could lose a step and have top shelf athleticism for his size.

So I found an article and apparently Kafusi was asked who he modeled his game after and he himself said Peppers. Hopefully he can be close to that kind of impact. 

[usmccharles]

20 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

So I found an article and apparently Kafusi was asked who he modeled his game after and he himself said Peppers. Hopefully he can be close to that kind of impact. 

Link? 

[ravensdan]

20 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Link? 

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3837163-155/nfl-baltimore-ravens-draft-byus-bronson

[Winchester]

6 hours ago, ravensdan said:

So I found an article and apparently Kafusi was asked who he modeled his game after and he himself said Peppers. Hopefully he can be close to that kind of impact. 

If he tweaks his body for an edge rusher position, he not only can but he should be an impact player. Maybe not on the level of a hall of fame player like peppers. But nonetheless a feared edge rusher and a freak of an athlete for 6'6 280lbs. I would say he should be as great as Jared Allen. After he cuts 16-20 lbs carefully his play speed will be 4.75 at the least. He can carefully  tack on 10-14lbs of functional muscle without losing any athleticism and arrive at a leaner faster more explosive 280lbs that is athletic enough to drop in coverage. He bends very well for a 289lb player and he has long arms and knows how to use his hands and body although he could and will be better in that department. His vertical will get to about 33-35". His broad very close to 10' which would indicate better lower body explosion. His 3cone sub7. He will be very similar to a prime Julius peppers and a top10 edge rusher among 43 defensive ends and 34 olbs. And a pretty freakish athlete. And Ben Watson is going to help him get there. With his unmatched knowledge of cutting to obtain speed, building power and explosion, work ethic, and fanatical dedication that will rub off on hard working players the ravens focused on drafting.  Ben Watson could be the best signing this off-season of any team!! Ben Watson is going to help younger players become spectacular athletes. Harbs I'm sure is smart enough to get him hooked up with younger players instantly. Dixon,Stanley,Kufusi,Henry and max. Are all going to benefit training with Watson

[Jacquouille]

According to the Sun, Carl Davis has spent a lot of time in the weight room, very nice to hear!

[BmoreBird22]

12 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

According to the Sun, Carl Davis has spent a lot of time in the weight room, very nice to hear!

So has Timmy Jernigan. He looked really good in the presser pictures the other day.

[Jacquouille]

On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2016 at 11:17 AM, BmoreBird22 said:

So has Timmy Jernigan. He looked really good in the presser pictures the other day.

What struck me more with Jernigan was his attitude. He seemed really hungry and pissed off!

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

18 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I love his underhook, it's really impressive for a guy his height because he plays high but he can engage the underhook from a hell of a distance because of his long arms and then he coils up and explodes upwards and knocks the tackle off balance and pivots the tackle inside. And that's a move you need to rush from a 3 point stance to really use effectively.

Yea, definitely his go to and he uses it to great effect. His game against Utah is a great example.... I think he had 3 sacks, 2 more TFL, a tipped pass and blocked FG. I might be misplacing the blocked FG but either way he was incredibly dominant.

[Winchester]

44 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

So has Timmy Jernigan. He looked really good in the presser pictures the other day.

He is trained by the recently retired cardinals defensive tackle and fl. State alumni. Heard he works him til he vomits lol. While I'm not for that it shows he works him!!  I'm for hard training, but you have to be smart about it to. Ben Watson works hard without getting sick. Runs a 4.6 40 at 35 yrs old and 258lbs. And as far as I know the most impressive specimen in the nfl that can be confirmed natural. He is a brilliant pick up and I'm not for signing older players. He was fanatical about training/nutrition back in college. If the young talented players learn from him and work like him then ravens  struck gold in this draft!! The receivers can learn from Campanaro who is fanatical about improving as well. Everything is in place to have young players up to speed by playoff time. Dixon is a willing worker as well. He has the goal of getting his speed in the 4.4 range. He took it very personal when one scout projected him a 4.6 . He is aware speed is needed to lead the nfl in touchdowns and have an opportunity to score every time he touches the rock. Ravens young players have  talent to work with and have the desire to work and get better. And that is the difference in great player and mediocre player. Lane Johnson and Joeckel came into the nfl athletic but needing power. Lane has tacked on 16-20lbs or so of muscle since being drafted at a lean but underpowered 302lbs. Joeckel is pretty much the same. The result is Lane is on the edge of being recognized as the one the league's dominant tackles while Joeckel is about to be a backup player. Lane and Joeckel are a poster example.

[Tiznut]

Dockett was training him last yr not sure if he did it this yr as well 

[Winchester]

1 hour ago, Tiznut said:

Dockett was training him last yr not sure if he did it this yr as well 

Not training him this yr but he has Watson and Campanaro. Watson knows far more than Dockett and will Show him nutrition is as essential as training itself.

[OldToby]

If I'm not mistaken Dockett tore his ACL in 2014 and had issues with his ribs last year. He hasn't officially retired just sitting around waiting for a call.

[GrimCoconut]

On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 7:40 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Kaufusi won't be a rush LB. in a 34 he'll play DE but at the 5t with a stand-up rusher to his side most likely. He already plays high and doesn't have great functional strength as a result so having him rush from the 2point would really be playing into his weaknesses

Could go either way. Kaufusi could be seen as an end or we may see him as an edge rusher to go against the tackle rather than a guard due to his length. 

[GrimCoconut]

19 hours ago, Kinda_Dante said:

What would make you think he's not working out? A lot of players like to keep in shape even after retirement.

To be fair, there's a difference between keeping in shape and keeping in NFL shape and being conditioned. They're very different things, a la Matt Birk. 

[Winchester]

Forget one draft pick standout. I'm rooting for this to be the best ravens draft in over a decade. Ron Stanley has upside to be all pro but he has to get stronger. Reports in camp of him getting thrown around I'm sure are exaggerated. But he must be getting overpowered on some level for it to be a story. With top shelf work ethic and tweaking their body for speed and power there are several players that could make an impact. And if cards are played right there should be an impact from several players. Ron Stanley,Kufusi,T. Young, Will Henry,Dixon, Chris Moore SHOULD all make an impact or production,power and speed will be left on the table. Example Kufusi is not an interior player any way you slice it. He should be getting after cutting 16-20lbs to lean out and obtain speed and explosion to play rush olb or 4-3 defensive end. He can tack on 12-14lbs of muscle without slowing him down. 

Ravens are more advanced than rival teams with training players to lean out and tack on muscle and clean overall eating habits. So this talented rookie class are likely getting to work leaning out for speed and building muscle and power. If the cards are played to optimal results,this class should have ravens in the arc championship game. Anything less would be failure and dropped potential 

[ellicottraven]

6 hours ago, Winchester said:

Forget one draft pick standout. I'm rooting for this to be the best ravens draft in over a decade. Ron Stanley has upside to be all pro but he has to get stronger. Reports in camp of him getting thrown around I'm sure are exaggerated. But he must be getting overpowered on some level for it to be a story. With top shelf work ethic and tweaking their body for speed and power there are several players that could make an impact. And if cards are played right there should be an impact from several players. Ron Stanley,Kufusi,T. Young, Will Henry,Dixon, Chris Moore SHOULD all make an impact or production,power and speed will be left on the table. Example Kufusi is not an interior player any way you slice it. He should be getting after cutting 16-20lbs to lean out and obtain speed and explosion to play rush olb or 4-3 defensive end. He can tack on 12-14lbs of muscle without slowing him down. 

Ravens are more advanced than rival teams with training players to lean out and tack on muscle and clean overall eating habits. So this talented rookie class are likely getting to work leaning out for speed and building muscle and power. If the cards are played to optimal results,this class should have ravens in the arc championship game. Anything less would be failure and dropped potential 

That was Mike 'acid pen' Preston's observation. You take what he says with a sack of salt! As for this draft being the best in over a decade, I'm there right with you rooting for it to be because heaven knows the Ravens need it. Slowly but surely, we have descended to 3rd place in our own division and that is shameful to even consider...

[ellicottraven]

On 5/27/2016 at 11:28 AM, Jacquouille said:

What struck me more with Jernigan was his attitude. He seemed really hungry and pissed off!

Amen! I really relished it.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

49 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

That was Mike 'acid pen' Preston's observation. You take what he says with a sack of salt! As for this draft being the best in over a decade, I'm there right with you rooting for it to be because heaven knows the Ravens need it. Slowly but surely, we have descended to 3rd place in our own division and that is shameful to even consider...

I wouldnt say we've descended to 3rd in our division. Even over the past 3 years.... We've got more playoff wins than Cinci and just as many as Pittsburgh.

Really dont care about the regular season, its how often you get to the playoffs and what you do when youre there. And even in recent history with our 2 "down" seasons we're still tops.

 

[Kinda_Dante]

1 hour ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I wouldnt say we've descended to 3rd in our division. Even over the past 3 years.... We've got more playoff wins than Cinci and just as many as Pittsburgh.

Really dont care about the regular season, its how often you get to the playoffs and what you do when youre there. And even in recent history with our 2 "down" seasons we're still tops.

 

Don't forget that we swept the Steelers last year with our backup's backups

[Winchester]

Ravens are #3 in the division til proven a better team. I'm sure ravens will rebound after a nice draft class and maxx getting in shape. Rookies will be difference maker's 

[Tiznut]

52 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Ravens are #3 in the division til proven a better team. I'm sure ravens will rebound after a nice draft class and maxx getting in shape. Rookies will be difference maker's 

I have to agree.  We finished third so until we play and win we are third. 

[usmccharles]

On ‎6‎/‎3‎/‎2016 at 6:33 PM, Winchester said:

Ravens are #3 in the division til proven a better team. I'm sure ravens will rebound after a nice draft class and maxx getting in shape. Rookies will be difference maker's 

 

On ‎6‎/‎3‎/‎2016 at 7:26 PM, Tiznut said:

I have to agree.  We finished third so until we play and win we are third. 

As shown before, Doesn't matter where we finish as long as we make the playoffs.  We had three teams from our division make the playoffs recently, who went the furthest? Us.  Obviously I would rather win the division and get a home game, but the Ravens have proven to be just fine on the road in the post-season