[News] Late For Work 5/17: 10 Ravens Whose Roster Position Could Change

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NFL to investigate Ravens for wearing full pads for five minutes. Kenneth Dixon could be the steal of the Ravens’ draft. Left guard suddenly has plenty of options.

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[mendii]

Keenan Reynolds is a 6th round pick under 1st round pressure, that's gotta be tough on him.

[Raveninwv]

I think the #19 should always be on hold! But if your gonna give it out, it seems like this young man would honor it the way we all do.

[bioLarzen]

Keenan Reynolds is a 6th round pick under 1st round pressure, that's gotta be tough on him.

Agreed. Hopefully he can handle that - and the fact that he will probably be unable to meet the highly unfair expectations placed on him. He could probably grow into a very useful player - hopefully for us.

[OriolesMagicPlease]

12 minutes ago, mendii said:

Keenan Reynolds is a 6th round pick under 1st round pressure, that's gotta be tough on him.

Agreed, but I really hope he will be one to be motivated by it.

[bioLarzen]

The Campanaro-Reynolds case is interesting. Although picked in the 7th round, Campanaro was, by most pre-draft analyses, a far better-than-7th-round talent, who would have probably been pickeód no later than somewhere in the middle rounds, maybe even day#2, if it wasn't for his apparent pronness to injuries, and injury history.
On the other hand, Reynolds was picked in the 6th round because about that's where he was projected to be picked. Therefore I think it's not really fair to expect Reynolds to come in and challenge a healthy Campanaro right away. I'm not saying it's impossible of course - and who could promise Campanaro won't quickly get injured once again... - but until he's healthy, I think we shouldn't expect Reynolds to really challenge him. And it's not against Reynlods, of course.

[ryananth]

Hopefully the shoulder pad issue doesn't turn into anything. Let's hope they weren't under-inflated.

[WNC-Raven]

Using the ol #19 jersey huh? Why would they do this? Seems to be that number along with 52 and 20 should never be used again. Man the Ravens really have a man crush on Reynolds. What makes this 6th round pick so special? I understand he was a playmaker in college, played in Annapolis and has high character but he's still a 6 round selection. They cried when they picked him and now this? Someone please enlighten me as to what I am missing. Thanks

[bioLarzen]

I'd never be happy about player injuries even when it's opponents' players - but Watkins' and Lawson's injuires may make Week #1 easier for us.

[757RavensFan]

27 minutes ago, Raveninwv said:

I think the #19 should always be on hold! But if your gonna give it out, it seems like this young man would honor it the way we all do.

I think #19 should be reserved for a player who the front office knows will make the team.   

[fusuymada]

I don't usually bash Harbaugh but this is the second time now that we have been busted trying to get around the CBA. If it is not allowed and he did it, then he needs a meeting in Bisciotti's office. If it is not allowed and he didn't know it, then he needs a meeting in Bisciotti's office. Since this is the second time now we have been busted, and since it will cost us valuable time we need these players to be on the field, then this is a big problem. Harbaugh complains he doesn't get the time he needs with players so he breaks the rules and gets even less time (when they end up punishing the team). Makes no sense and is not an action I would expect from a top notch coach. I am very concerned about the direction the Ravens are taking, in the draft, on the field, on the roster, etc... and I am not encouraged by what I am seeing so far this year.

[Bohica5]

So...this isn't going to go over well but i've been doing some number analysis on our wide receiver class and I don't see us keeping Camp just for the "china doll" he's going to break theory....and also with all the upside of the young fast receivers Really we are going to keep steve smith?....That really doesn't make sense with the wr signings and draft..... it just doesn't make sense to use a roster spot on a 35+yr old just coming off injury when we don't have room for him......sorry i love the guy but he's gotta go......give him an honest chance to make the team but.........Really.....we got receivers now.....maybe we can hire him as a coach?

[eze17]

So...this isn't going to go over well but i've been doing some number analysis on our wide receiver class and I don't see us keeping Camp just for the "china doll" he's going to break theory....and also with all the upside of the young fast receivers Really we are going to keep steve smith?....That really doesn't make sense with the wr signings and draft..... it just doesn't make sense to use a roster spot on a 35+yr old just coming off injury when we don't have room for him......sorry i love the guy but he's gotta go......give him an honest chance to make the team but.........Really.....we got receivers now.....maybe we can hire him as a coach?

Is this a joke posting? Seriously? SSS was on his way to maybe 1200+ receiving yards last year before he got hurt and now we should let him go because he's old? What other proven receivers do we have that can replace him besides Aiken? I really don't mind the negative comments people post, but comments from people who obviously don't watch football do get me riled.

[KidNme]

There are a couple things wrong with the CBA infraction on pads. First, our coaches should know the CBA hands down. This is a class A organization and we should always act like it. Second, someone on the team ratted out the coaches to the official? Someone isn't being a team player. I know it's against the rules and all but you should probably say something to one of the coaches before you tell an official AND, If you did and they didn't listen, that's another story.
However, it was 5 minutes of non contact. What kind of player complains about that? Not one I would have on my team!
Sounds like someone is feeling over privileged already.
I can tell you that if the Ravens don't put the class act on the field that we expect, they'll lose viewership. America is getting tired of all the bull.

[harfordravenfan]

40 minutes ago, eze17 said:

Is this a joke posting? Seriously? SSS was on his way to maybe 1200+ receiving yards last year before he got hurt and now we should let him go because he's old? What other proven receivers do we have that can replace him besides Aiken? I really don't mind the negative comments people post, but comments from people who obviously don't watch football do get me riled.

Well said (although I think SSS was on pace for 1500 yards not 1200)

 

[757RavensFan]

1 hour ago, KidNme said:

There are a couple things wrong with the CBA infraction on pads. First, our coaches should know the CBA hands down. This is a class A organization and we should always act like it. Second, someone on the team ratted out the coaches to the official? Someone isn't being a team player. I know it's against the rules and all but you should probably say something to one of the coaches before you tell an official AND, If you did and they didn't listen, that's another story.
However, it was 5 minutes of non contact. What kind of player complains about that? Not one I would have on my team!
Sounds like someone is feeling over privileged already.
I can tell you that if the Ravens don't put the class act on the field that we expect, they'll lose viewership. America is getting tired of all the bull.

Did you read the article?

None of the rookies complained about the padded practice.  Ben Watson, a vet going into his 13th year, who also happens to be a union rep informed the coaches that  pads during rookie practice was illegal. 

Edited May 17, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[Ravenous_Ravens]

There are a couple things wrong with the CBA infraction on pads. First, our coaches should know the CBA hands down. This is a class A organization and we should always act like it. Second, someone on the team ratted out the coaches to the official? Someone isn't being a team player. I know it's against the rules and all but you should probably say something to one of the coaches before you tell an official AND, If you did and they didn't listen, that's another story.
However, it was 5 minutes of non contact. What kind of player complains about that? Not one I would have on my team!
Sounds like someone is feeling over privileged already.
I can tell you that if the Ravens don't put the class act on the field that we expect, they'll lose viewership. America is getting tired of all the bull.

The coaches have zero excuse for not knowing the rules, it is their job to know. Players do not need to go to their organizations before taking actions either. That is the whole point of reporting infractions. They have people who get the details and make the call on whether the rules were broken.

Keeping things in house is what allows for bad behavior to continue. If a player/coach is reporting a suspected infraction and they do not personally submit the information, they cannot be certain that information ever got delivered correctly.

If memory serves correct this was part of the issue the Saints faced with the bounty gate or w/e. Some people did speak up, internally but the issue never got dealt with until someone got the message to someone outside the organization.

Now this is not the same type of situation obviously, but still it should have been completely avoided by the coaching staff knowing the rules per the CBA. No excuses.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

I don't usually bash Harbaugh but this is the second time now that we have been busted trying to get around the CBA. If it is not allowed and he did it, then he needs a meeting in Bisciotti's office. If it is not allowed and he didn't know it, then he needs a meeting in Bisciotti's office. Since this is the second time now we have been busted, and since it will cost us valuable time we need these players to be on the field, then this is a big problem. Harbaugh complains he doesn't get the time he needs with players so he breaks the rules and gets even less time (when they end up punishing the team). Makes no sense and is not an action I would expect from a top notch coach. I am very concerned about the direction the Ravens are taking, in the draft, on the field, on the roster, etc... and I am not encouraged by what I am seeing so far this year.

Harbaugh is definitely feeling the growing pains right now. I cannot believe he let something so simple to avoid slip past him. Kinda makes you wonder if anything else has slipped by unnoticed.

[Rocky007]

I don't understand why everyone is upset at Harbaugh. We are lucky to have a coach push the limits and our players. Also logically its funny how the NFL preaches safety yet its a violation to wear safety equipment?

[EdTheMythicalOne]

A lot of the guys mentioned in this article are people I mentioned would be in trouble in my prediction of the 53 man roster make up in this thread:

http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/68401-my-current-guess-at-the-ravens-53-man-roster-merged/?page=4#comment-2395331

I thought the Ravens would clean house with their plethora of big bodied WR's. They don't need 3-4 guys that are all big possession types because their just aren't that many roster spots to go around. I figured they might keep one of the "old guard" at best. I predicted Marlon Brown would be one of those cuts and he's gone. I also thought Chris Matthews and Jeremy Butler would be cut and the last man standing of the "big men" competition would be Daniel Brown.

Of course I also thought Nick Perry had a chance to make the roster and he was recently cut...so just stating that to show that nobody is always right :).

Campanaro controls his destiny by staying healthy as well as Taliafero. But them being hurt a majority of time means that if the guys behind them perform just as well, the tie breaker goes to the guy that hasn't been hurt.

I think Urban is safe and that Kapron Lewis-Moore would be cut well before him on the D-Line. Also love Lawrence Guy.

I thought early on that Kyle Arrington and Kendrick Lewis would be cut eventually.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  3 hours ago, Bohica5 said:

So...this isn't going to go over well but i've been doing some number analysis on our wide receiver class and I don't see us keeping Camp just for the "china doll" he's going to break theory....and also with all the upside of the young fast receivers Really we are going to keep steve smith?....That really doesn't make sense with the wr signings and draft..... it just doesn't make sense to use a roster spot on a 35+yr old just coming off injury when we don't have room for him......sorry i love the guy but he's gotta go......give him an honest chance to make the team but.........Really.....we got receivers now.....maybe we can hire him as a coach?

Is this a joke posting? Seriously? SSS was on his way to maybe 1200+ receiving yards last year before he got hurt and now we should let him go because he's old? What other proven receivers do we have that can replace him besides Aiken? I really don't mind the negative comments people post, but comments from people who obviously don't watch football do get me riled.

And I would go as far to say that even Kamar Aiken isn't proven and is a one year wonder at this point. So yeah, this Steve Smith Sr. stuff is nonsense.

The guy balls harder at WR than Terrence Cody did at DT. He came out of retirement to get one last season in because he didn't want to go out on a down note like that, and he was killing it before the injury. You honestly think he'd come back if he thought the gas tank was empty?

[EdTheMythicalOne]

So...this isn't going to go over well but i've been doing some number analysis on our wide receiver class and I don't see us keeping Camp just for the "china doll" he's going to break theory....and also with all the upside of the young fast receivers Really we are going to keep steve smith?....That really doesn't make sense with the wr signings and draft..... it just doesn't make sense to use a roster spot on a 35+yr old just coming off injury when we don't have room for him......sorry i love the guy but he's gotta go......give him an honest chance to make the team but.........Really.....we got receivers now.....maybe we can hire him as a coach?

It isn't going over well because it makes absolutely no sense. The guy is hands down our best receiver on the team.

I wholeheartedly agree with you about Campanaro and have said many times before that his job is up for grabs. He better come into camp and have a crazy off season and stay healthy. If Reynolds proves he can catch, run routes, and return kicks and punts just as well as Camp...bye bye Campanaro. It would stink because I really like Camp, but you can't help the team by being in the trainer's room.

[MiamiRaven55]

55 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Did you read the article?

None of the rookies complained about the padded practice.  Ben Watson, a vet going into his 13th year, who also happens to be a union rep informed the coaches that  pads during rookie practice was illegal. 

I'm curious if this is gonna put Watson in Harb's proverbial dog house? It's easier to get out of the "Crips" than it is to get out of Harb's dog house, lol.

[757RavensFan]

7 minutes ago, MiamiRaven55 said:

I'm curious if this is gonna put Watson in Harb's proverbial dog house? It's easier to get out of the "Crips" than it is to get out of Harb's dog house, lol.

Watson told the coaches about it. Don't see why it would put him in the dog house.

If Watson didn't say anything, who's to say how long they would have practiced with pads.  

They should be grateful Watson knew the rules and informed them about the violation immediately.   

[MiamiRaven55]

1 minute ago, 757RavensFan said:

Watson told the coaches about it. Don't see why it would put him in the dog house.

If Watson didn't say anything, who's to say how long they would have practiced with pads.  

They should be grateful Watson knew the rules and informed them about the violation immediately.   

I'm curious of the process. He informs the coaches of the violation, so after that is it self reported to the league or how does the league become aware of the infraction?

[The Beak]

So...this isn't going to go over well but i've been doing some number analysis on our wide receiver class and I don't see us keeping Camp just for the "china doll" he's going to break theory....and also with all the upside of the young fast receivers Really we are going to keep steve smith?....That really doesn't make sense with the wr signings and draft..... it just doesn't make sense to use a roster spot on a 35+yr old just coming off injury when we don't have room for him......sorry i love the guy but he's gotta go......give him an honest chance to make the team but.........Really.....we got receivers now.....maybe we can hire him as a coach?

An 80% healthy Steve Smith Sr. , would still be our best option this year, he is our on and off the field leader at the Wr position, the young guys need him and we need him, your ideology, is apparently skewed by the sexiness of speed. That almost never works

[JimmyBlack]

  15 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Watson told the coaches about it. Don't see why it would put him in the dog house.

If Watson didn't say anything, who's to say how long they would have practiced with pads.  

They should be grateful Watson knew the rules and informed them about the violation immediately.   

I'm curious of the process. He informs the coaches of the violation, so after that is it self reported to the league or how does the league become aware of the infraction?

The media snitched on the Ravens.

[stixfix69]

I think every OTA, Rookie camp, mini-camp, and training camp the NFL has reps on hand to over see the activities...

[CaliRavenFan]

Did anyone else laugh when they seen Maxx Williams name? I love Pitta but he has a better chance of getting released and I believe he will be. 

I just dont see Camp or Talifero making the team, Waller hopefully falls to the PS and isnt claimed by another team. 

[JimmyBlack]

5 hours ago, mendii said:

Keenan Reynolds is a 6th round pick under 1st round pressure, that's gotta be tough on him.

I think that after the pressure of the Naval Academy he will be ready for anything.