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ESPN's Bill Barnwell 2016 Offseason grades for the AFC North.

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This is just laughable and totally way off. 

Bengals: B

Browns: A-

Raven: C+

Steelers: B+

 

This clowns biggest argument regarding the Ravens was they're in cap hell. 

How do you give the Browns an A- when they let so many good players walk during free agency and you don't even know who they're starting QB is? 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15500111/bill-barnwell-2016-offseason-report-cards-baltimore-ravens-cincinnati-bengals-cleveland-browns-pittsburgh-steelers

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Yeah I don't get the praise for the Browns offseason this year. They pretty much just hit the reset button which isn't all that hard to do. Sure they got a lot of draft picks from moving down but we have no clue how those picks will play out and I don't see them all of a sudden competing this year as they still have a good share of holes. 

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Ozzie and John must be taking this really hard... Meanwhile, Browns are printing Super Bowl tickets

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1 hour ago, 757RavensFan said:

 

How do you give the Browns an A- when they let so many good players walk during free agency and you don't even know who they're starting QB is? 

Cmon man they signed RGIII. That should be a triple A rating right there and they drafted like 10 people to catch the ball.

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2 hours ago, Willbacker said:

Cmon man they signed RGIII. That should be a triple A rating right there and they drafted like 10 people to catch the ball.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm.  LOL!

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2 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

I'm hoping this is sarcasm.  LOL!

I am going to venture a guess that it is

2 hours ago, Willbacker said:

triple A rating right there

Don't know if this is intentional or not but a pretty nice baseball reference

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2 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

I'm hoping this is sarcasm.  LOL!

After seeing the grades you posted I couldn't even read the article. Ravens might not have had an A offseason but its better than the Browns

2 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

Don't know if this is intentional or not but a pretty nice baseball reference

That and a credit rating.

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1 hour ago, 757RavensFan said:

It was Ngata that took out RG3. 

Well Suggs is gonna take him out this time

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11 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

This is just laughable and totally way off. 

Bengals: B

Browns: A-

Raven: C+

Steelers: B+

 

This clowns biggest argument regarding the Ravens was they're in cap hell. 

How do you give the Browns an A- when they let so many good players walk during free agency and you don't even know who they're starting QB is? 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15500111/bill-barnwell-2016-offseason-report-cards-baltimore-ravens-cincinnati-bengals-cleveland-browns-pittsburgh-steelers

Meh' he is saying nothing original.  He is just regurgitating what other know nothings say every year.
Not a of of people in the media have an original thought nowadays.  

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I don't think the Browns did anything great in the draft.  Almost half their picks were WRs with no one to throw the ball to them.  Just not a fan of what they did. 

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There are only a couple of people's opinions that I value from ESPN.

 

SVP and Dan Le Batard's dad (Papi)

 

That article is humorous. I guess he is trying to make a name for himself, going against the grain no matter how wrong he may be. The ole Skip Bayless trick.

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I have no interest in reading this guy. Personally I don't think this has been the best Ravens offseason of all time but I don't see how the Browns can get anything but an F. Why is this any better than what they've been doing?  Because it's different?  It was a ridiculous move to fire Petine let go of the few solid pieces they had and being in nothing to build on. F. 

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9 hours ago, ravensdan said:

I have no interest in reading this guy. Personally I don't think this has been the best Ravens offseason of all time but I don't see how the Browns can get anything but an F. Why is this any better than what they've been doing?  Because it's different?  It was a ridiculous move to fire Petine let go of the few solid pieces they had and being in nothing to build on. F. 

But but but.... THIS is the year for Cleveland Dan. Why don't you understand that!?

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Yeah I really don't get the hype for Cleveland's offseason at all. Didn't like any of their picks and they lost a bunch of talent. Literally the only thing they did that I like was bringing in Hue Jackson. 

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A friend of mine says Ravens are going to the super bowl. And i placed a bet on him that they wont. Im being honest because you need a solid defense to go back in that super bowl. I believe Ravens have the offense to win games but their defensive secondary is young. I say playoffs Ravens will win 1or 2 playoff games but the AFC championship game they're done. Maybe if they can find away to trade for Richard Sherman then maybe they can go to the super bowl.

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12 hours ago, Steve0x said:

A friend of mine says Ravens are going to the super bowl. And i placed a bet on him that they wont. Im being honest because you need a solid defense to go back in that super bowl. I believe Ravens have the offense to win games but their defensive secondary is young. I say playoffs Ravens will win 1or 2 playoff games but the AFC championship game they're done. Maybe if they can find away to trade for Richard Sherman then maybe they can go to the super bowl.

Did you give him odds on the bet? Doesn't make much sense to bet a single team, straight up, is going to the SB.

If I got even money odds on any of those bets, I'd literally bet against ANY team in the league to not make the SB, because there isn't a team in the league that's an even money bet to make the SB. 

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Ill Tell you one team got a great chance making to the super bowl. Thats the New England Pats  

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On 5/12/2016 at 9:37 AM, 757RavensFan said:

This is just laughable and totally way off. 

Bengals: B

Browns: A-

Raven: C+

Steelers: B+

 

This clowns biggest argument regarding the Ravens was they're in cap hell. 

How do you give the Browns an A- when they let so many good players walk during free agency and you don't even know who they're starting QB is? 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15500111/bill-barnwell-2016-offseason-report-cards-baltimore-ravens-cincinnati-bengals-cleveland-browns-pittsburgh-steelers

He likes the replacements for players let go. While I like many ravens draft picks. I wouldn't call everybody who is not a fan of ravens moves a clown. I did not know why everybody in Baltimore loathed skip bayless. Well Sunday night at the gym an employee showed me what he said about Joe cool. I did not even know who skip bayless is. But I know this forum and some fans around have utter hatred for him. lol. But that is his opinions dude.

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On ‎5‎/‎24‎/‎2016 at 7:51 PM, Winchester said:

He likes the replacements for players let go. While I like many ravens draft picks. I wouldn't call everybody who is not a fan of ravens moves a clown. I did not know why everybody in Baltimore loathed skip bayless. Well Sunday night at the gym an employee showed me what he said about Joe cool. I did not even know who skip bayless is. But I know this forum and some fans around have utter hatred for him. lol. But that is his opinions dude.

How in the world did you not know who Skip Bayless was? lol

I will respect anyones opinions if they can make logical arguments for it.  The problem with Skip is he would say certain things good about a player but then another player who does the same thing he kills him for it.  Example- His bias love for Romo is insane, I cant remember details but he was praising Romo for having a good game against the Jets one year, But wouldn't give Joe any credit at all when he lit up the Jets.  He does that with a lot players, but his thing with Joe is that he  calls him Joe Fluko.

And he even killed Lebron when his Cavs lost to the Celtics when Lebron was averaging basically a tripple double.  Just stupid arguments, But hes an entertainer. 

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Bayless is not a respected analyst in any way shape or form. He just says random bs for reaction only. Has no useful thoughts. And I'm not saying that because one of his targets is flacco because Ravens fans should have thicker skin when it comes to criticism legit or not. But this guy is useless. Honestly I haven't turned to ESPN other than to watch a game in years. 

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13 hours ago, ravensdan said:

Bayless is not a respected analyst in any way shape or form. He just says random bs for reaction only. Has no useful thoughts. And I'm not saying that because one of his targets is flacco because Ravens fans should have thicker skin when it comes to criticism legit or not. But this guy is useless. Honestly I haven't turned to ESPN other than to watch a game in years. 

Well, certainly wouldn't say he is useless. A LOT of people watch his show specifically to see what he says. He is a MAJOR money maker for ESPN, and he will be a MAJOR money maker for Fox Sports when he moves there later this year.

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7 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Well, certainly wouldn't say he is useless. A LOT of people watch his show specifically to see what he says. He is a MAJOR money maker for ESPN, and he will be a MAJOR money maker for Fox Sports when he moves there later this year.

Possibly not useless to his network if people are actually tuning in to this but from my perspective there's little to no in depth analysis going on television. 

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