Running back depth...merged

[757RavensFan]

If you had to pick the 53 man roster RIGHT now (as of today), what 3 RBs would you select to make the team? 

Extra credit:  Who would be the 4th? 

[Jaybirds]

Forsett, Dixon, Allen in that order.  Juice as the fourth. 

I know people are excited about West and Richardson, potential upside with hardly any risk.  But I think they're just warm bodies on a team depleted by injuries.  Dixon and Allen are the better long-term projects, and both can step into roles this year. 

Keep in mind, this is the same Trent Richardson: 
http://dailysnark.com/trent-richardson-ignores-humongous-hole-runs-right-traffic/

[LouisianaRaven1989]

For me its these 4 RB'S 

1: Forsett

2: Dixon

3.Allen

4. West

As much as i would love to see the Greatest RB In Louisiana Tech History Kenneth Dixon start it's not yet his time Forsett is the guy for now but Dixon is the RB of the Future for this Ravens offense under new OC Marc Trestman who coached another great RB in Matt Forte who is now with the Jets. Buck Allen to me I really like and could still be the # 2 back this year but in my opinion he'll be used as a 3rd back mostly and also as a receiving RB in most situations. West has some potential still to me but I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson or Juice gets the #4 spot.

[757RavensFan]

19 minutes ago, LouisianaRaven1989 said:

For me its these 4 RB'S 

1: Forsett

2: Dixon

3.Allen

4. West

As much as i would love to see the Greatest RB In Louisiana Tech History Kenneth Dixon start it's not yet his time Forsett is the guy for now but Dixon is the RB of the Future for this Ravens offense under new OC Marc Trestman who coached another great RB in Matt Forte who is now with the Jets. Buck Allen to me I really like and could still be the # 2 back this year but in my opinion he'll be used as a 3rd back mostly and also as a receiving RB in most situations. West has some potential still to me but I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson or Juice gets the #4 spot.

Interesting that you have West before Taliaferro. Lost me w/ that one. 

[K-Dog]

Forsette

Dixon

Allen

Richardson 

( Juice as FB )

[Tru11]

dixon allen and richardson would be what i prefer at the moment solely based on potential and the future.

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, 757RavensFan said:

Interesting that you have West before Taliaferro. Lost me w/ that one. 

Its a health thing with Tali. He's been good when on the field but how often has that actually been?

[BmoreBird22]

I don't know if I can see Forsett making the team if the young guys show any signs of growth.

He'll be 31 and coming off a broken arm. He'd also save over $3M, which would cover over half the rookie cap and keep the Ravens at a healthy ~$8M in cap. 

[Kinda_Dante]

Yea I think TRich will make a bigger impact than some people think.

[Sherly_Tebow]

As weird as it sounds, I have a feeling we keep 5...

In no order... Forsett, Dixon, Allen, Richardson, and Juice. It's a pretty diverse and deep group. Could be pretty successful. I see a lot of them getting reps.

To me, it depends on our WRs and TEs and how many we keep at those positions. I say 4 TEs, 6 WRs. And 5 RBs. It could also be 3 TEs, 7 WRs, and 5 RBs, or 4TEs, 7 WRs, and 4 RBs. That's just how I see things.

As I was typing this, I see that Keenan Reynolds has been given permission to play in the NFL. That's good news.

[ellicottraven]

Forsett isn't going anywhere imo. He'll be the lead back for the Ravens as long as he can continue to average over 4 yds a carry and be a reliable receiver like he's been. I think Dixon will take over the #2 spot as long as he proves he can hold on to the ball followed by Buck Allen. I also believe we may have a 4th RB that is a bruiser that can contribute heavily on special teams. It may be one of LT, Richardson or the Towson kid. So, if we include Juice, we'll be carrying a total of 5 RBs this year. If in the event we can't carry 5 backs, it'll be because we believe Juice can fulfill that role as a bruiser on goal line situations and that Keenan Reynolds will be a RB weapon as well.

[trevorsteadman]

1. Buck Allen

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Trent Richardson

4. Terrance West (this spot may be lost if the Ravens decide to keep an extra tight end or receiver)

 

Forsett had one good year. Last year he didn't look like he had th same burst and agility he did the year before when he broke out for 1200 yards. I really hope he can play like he did he was a solid piece for us. But if not I can easily see the Ravens cutting him for cap savings. Allen showed promise as a rookie running back with back ups all around him, Dixon comes in with 87 touchdowns on his resume and he plays aggressive he may end up passing Allen on the depth chart. I think it will be very close. Richardson is a former 1st round pick has all the talent in the world. Running behind a solid O-line like ours will be a lot better than the Browns and Colts which have always had iffy O-lines. West is on the edge I see him competing with Forsett and if he is almost as good as Forsett it may benefit the team to cut Forsett to sign at another position. Young backfield but that has not stopped us before.

[trevorsteadman]

10 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Forsett isn't going anywhere imo. He'll be the lead back for the Ravens as long as he can continue to average over 4 yds a carry and be a reliable receiver like he's been. I think Dixon will take over the #2 spot as long as he proves he can hold on to the ball followed by Buck Allen. I also believe we may have a 4th RB that is a bruiser that can contribute heavily on special teams. It may be one of LT, Richardson or the Towson kid. So, if we include Juice, we'll be carrying a total of 5 RBs this year. If in the event we can't carry 5 backs, it'll be because we believe Juice can fulfill that role as a bruiser on goal line situations and that Keenan Reynolds will be a RB weapon as well.

Forsett struggled last season though is my problem. He wasn't that legitamite receving threat and he wasn't even running well. The only thing well he did last season was block. I think Allen had more big plays as a back up and was a more reliable weapon out of the backfield. I do agree with Dixon taking over the #2 spot though.

[RaineV1]

8 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

Forsett struggled last season though is my problem. He wasn't that legitamite receving threat and he wasn't even running well. The only thing well he did last season was block. I think Allen had more big plays as a back up and was a more reliable weapon out of the backfield. I do agree with Dixon taking over the #2 spot though.

He wasn't running well? He averaged 4.2 yards a carry, and over 60 rushing yards a game. Last season before getting hurt he was by far the best of the group when it came to actually running the ball.

Edited May 13, 2016 by RaineV1

[Darhk_Raven]

9 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

1. Buck Allen

2. Kenneth Dixon

3. Trent Richardson

4. Terrance West (this spot may be lost if the Ravens decide to keep an extra tight end or receiver)

 

Forsett had one good year. Last year he didn't look like he had th same burst and agility he did the year before when he broke out for 1200 yards. I really hope he can play like he did he was a solid piece for us. But if not I can easily see the Ravens cutting him for cap savings. Allen showed promise as a rookie running back with back ups all around him, Dixon comes in with 87 touchdowns on his resume and he plays aggressive he may end up passing Allen on the depth chart. I think it will be very close. Richardson is a former 1st round pick has all the talent in the world. Running behind a solid O-line like ours will be a lot better than the Browns and Colts which have always had iffy O-lines. West is on the edge I see him competing with Forsett and if he is almost as good as Forsett it may benefit the team to cut Forsett to sign at another position. Young backfield but that has not stopped us before.

The knock on Richardson is that he can't seem to read the offensive line, so you can't put iffy offensive line play as a reason for him not being successful so far.

[Gordo52]

Forsett

Dixon

Buck

Juice

 

I could see us keeping 1 more. Whoever looks the best out of Richardson, West & Lorenzo. 

[Ravensfan23]

10 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

He wasn't running well? He averaged 4.2 yards a carry, and over 60 rushing yards a game. Last season before getting hurt he was by far the best of the group when it came to actually running the ball.

I'll start this by saying I'm a big fan of Forsett. The man and the player. Love the fact he supports one of my favor artist in Lacrae. 

However, with that said I have to disagree with Forsett being the best runner. Forsett had 3 good games last year that really inflated his numbers. He's wasn't consistently good at all. I personally just didn't feel he fit what Trestman wanted to do. 

Yes he averaged 4.2ypc and 60ypg, however those number were hugely inflated by back to back 120+ypg and 5+ypc games. Now I don't take that away from Forsett but again he wasn't consistent. 

Imo it wasn't hard for Forsett to be viewed as the best runner before his injury because he was backed up by 2 rookies once LT went down. 

Again I don't wanna take anything away from Forsett because I think he'll continue to be his steady self, but I think Trestman might prefer another type of back then what Forsett is and all the other RBs seem to fit that mold while Justin doesn't imo. 

[Ravensfan23]

My top 3 in no order are Buck, Dixon and Richardson. I think those 3 guys combined will give Trestman exactly what he appears to want from the RB position. Downhill tough between the tackle runners who can provide another dynamic to the passing game. 

T. Rich is obviously the biggest ? Imo and I think the finally spot will come down to him, west or LT. 

I know who the Ravens used to be but I think the Ravens have finally found a OC who not only wants the offense to run through Flacco but also knows how to do it as well. This is Flacco's offense and Harbs knew what type of OC Trestman was when he hired him. I only see the RBs getting 15-25 combined touches per game. I think the Ravens will run the ball enough to keep the defense honest and help the play action game. Because of this I don't think the coaches will have any hesitation to allow the young RBs to take over without Forsett.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

Just can't do it. LT and West have flashed, Richardson too big of a wild card right now to assess, and I need to see how comfortable Forsette looks after that haunting injury. maybe one of them will fail their physical and make this easier

[Daft Classic]

Forsett, Dixon, Buck. But they are gonna take a good, hard look at Richardson to see if he can break-out and salvage his career. Cause if he does, ohhhhhh boy are we gonna be set at RB for awhile

[Winchester]

Forsett will be the top guy going in preseason and probably the regular season. However he is turning 31 I believe it is and there are 2 young talented runners in Dixon and Allen. TW has not impressed anybody. Dixon and Allen will begin to win more carries. Both run with speed power and are really good receivers. Dixon will be stallion by midseason with Allen getting some touches. Dixon can stand to add a little muscle and lean out just a little to max his power/burst. But he already runs witn good suddenness and power for his size. Dixon/Allen are not track stars but have competitive speed to break off long runs.the tandem has very competitive 4.5 game speed. Dixon I believe is the #1 cuz of his instincts and skills to create. Trent In my opinion is not the same guy in the nfl as he was in college.Allen although not a pure power runner could probably add some muscle and play at close to 230 without losing his speed and suddenness to punish tacklers a little and give the offense some attitude. Jensen will be a fine at left guard and can maul almost as well as KO. It is very important Stanley adds some muscle for run blocking. 7-10 lbs of muscle by playoff time is very realistic. Overall he could use 14-16 lbs of muscle with much of it on his upper body to spring the run game. So by playoff time Buck Allen and Dixon will be getting the bulk of carries with difference making receiving skills

[omar586]

DL,RB, TE positions are deep this year.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

4 hours ago, omar586 said:

DL,RB, TE positions are deep this year.

WR too... not a bad problem to have for Harbs

[Mahatma_Sloth]

4 hours ago, Winchester said:

 TW has not impressed anybody.

I liked west in that second Steelers game last year, but his touches were limited which doesn't bode well for him

[KBoum]

On 10 mai 2016 at 0:16 PM, Jaybirds said:

Forsett, Dixon, Allen in that order.  Juice as the fourth. 

I know people are excited about West and Richardson, potential upside with hardly any risk.  But I think they're just warm bodies on a team depleted by injuries.  Dixon and Allen are the better long-term projects, and both can step into roles this year. 

Keep in mind, this is the same Trent Richardson: 
http://dailysnark.com/trent-richardson-ignores-humongous-hole-runs-right-traffic/

well I understand he should have use the cutback but that type of play with a pulling guard he's suppose to be following the Guard. his shoulders needs to be square for any cutback and we know his vision isn't the best thats why a zone scheme isn't the best fit for him 

[jdynamite]

Before Dixon was drafted I fully expected Richardson to show up impress and make the roster, now I'm not sure how this will play out.  

I've never viewed Forsett as anything more than the right man at the right time while Kubiak was here.    Yes he played well last year before going down, but Buck Allen did a nice job as well. 

 

We saw Forsett reborn when given a chance, I'd like to see Trent Richardson reborn with some new found football passion. i hope that him getting in better shape improved his initial burst. 

[jdynamite]

On May 10, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Jaybirds said:

Forsett, Dixon, Allen in that order.  Juice as the fourth. 

I know people are excited about West and Richardson, potential upside with hardly any risk.  But I think they're just warm bodies on a team depleted by injuries.  Dixon and Allen are the better long-term projects, and both can step into roles this year. 

Keep in mind, this is the same Trent Richardson: 
http://dailysnark.com/trent-richardson-ignores-humongous-hole-runs-right-traffic/

 

 

On May 14, 2016 at 4:48 AM, KBoum said:

well I understand he should have use the cutback but that type of play with a pulling guard he's suppose to be following the Guard. his shoulders needs to be square for any cutback and we know his vision isn't the best thats why a zone scheme isn't the best fit for him 

There's another image of that play ( in the comment section of that page ) that shows its only wide open from that camera angle.   There's a WILL linebacker located to outside waiting to shoot the gap with no one to account for him.  

The video and first image doesn't even the display the linebacker in the upper  left..

An agile back like L.McCoy could make that cut and have the speed to shoot through the "hole" and disregard the pulling guard and blocking scheme. 

 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, jdynamite said:

 

 

There's another image of that play ( in the comment section of that page ) that shows its only wide open from that camera angle.   There's a WILL linebacker located to outside waiting to shoot the gap with no one to account for him.  

The video and first image doesn't even the display the linebacker in the upper  left..

An agile back like L.McCoy could make that cut and have the speed to shoot through the "hole" and disregard the pulling guard and blocking scheme. 

 

Trent does get too much heat for those screenshots as they don't tell the whole story.  There's 1 of them that was inexcusable out of the 3 (I believe).  However, his vision is still very poor.  He can be in the best shape of his life but if he doesn't have the vision, he won't make it.  I really hope he can figure it out though because there's a lot of talent there.  I'm hoping for the best but not exceedingly hopeful.

[jdynamite]

21 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Trent does get too much heat for those screenshots as they don't tell the whole story.  There's 1 of them that was inexcusable out of the 3 (I believe).  However, his vision is still very poor.  He can be in the best shape of his life but if he doesn't have the vision, he won't make it.  I really hope he can figure it out though because there's a lot of talent there.  I'm hoping for the best but not exceedingly hopeful.

 

I agree completely, it's nothing to get pumped about, but at the same time there is that curiosity.  Like I said in another post, given the talent and potential displayed in college, I'm hoping he could have a turn-around breakout year like Forsett did.   { bite my tongue here to avoid daydreaming of Kubiak ?} 

[757RavensFan]

Based off Justin's tweet from earlier today, I would say he's ready to go.