[News] Eisenberg: Future Is Brighter For Ravens Secondary After Offseason Changes

[EdTheMythicalOne]

What planet are we on here? Our secondary sucks. They got abused by lowly Cleveland, got torched by the Raiders, Bengals, Seattle, SF, Arizona and any other team that dared to throw the ball 40plus times. We had a shot at Ramsey and Myles Jack and passed so we could take the safe pick and a bunch of long-term projects. Sad.

I guess you didn't pay attention to the second half of the season when Webb was moved away from CB and put in more of a slot/safety role, Hill was moved to the bench, and Shareece Wright moved to starting CB and the pass defense was one of the best in the league during that time.

Factor in that Jimmy Smith should be healthier on his foot, Webb should hopefully be healed up a bit more, Weddle joins the team on the back end replacing Elam I think this unit can be very solid. Hopefully with getting Suggs back and some of the newer faces stepping up their game we can get a bit more pass rush and help out that secondary too.

We had a shot at Ramsey if you wanted to pass on Stanley and somebody from the third round which ended up being Kaufusi for us. I; like the Ravens, did not trust Jack's knee. If he works out for the Jaguars then so be it. They were in a position to make an all or nothing swing for the fences.

Newsflash, all mid to late round picks are developmental selections. It comes with the territory. They are guys you hope can at least sub in at year one and if you're really lucky become starters within the next two years. The Ravens are one of the best teams in the game at doing this and it is a huge reason why they have been a winning franchise more often than not under the Harbaugh era.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

The Cowboys were only asking for our 1st rounder and they also wanted our 3rd round pick to swap spots with us and we thought it was too much to do all that and snag Ramsey! I am still BAFFLED. We had 11 picks and losing one for Ramsey would have been worth it.

This is assuming that Ramsey will be something in the NFL that he WASN'T in college.

Ramsey was fairly good at playing safety and corner in college. The hype on him is that he is this freak of an athlete that comes around once in a blue moon and he will be the God of Interceptions as a corner back. Well, he didn't create turnovers in college, so why is he expected to do this in the pros?

I'm no expert, but I didn't buy the hype and I am actually fairly happy we didn't get Ramsey. He might very well be a viable starter in the NFL for years, but I don't think he's going to be the next Deion Sanders. For where he was drafted, that's what he needs to be to justify the pick.

Meanwhile we got the guy who might not exactly be the next John Ogden, but he might be close enough to it to be the best left tackle we've had since he retired.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

This gets a nomination for "No Brainer" of the year award. After what we saw for about half the season last year there really is no place to go but up.

Thing is we ended on a high note. Moving Hill out of the lineup and replacing him with Webb; thus removing Webb from corner and replacing him with Wright solidified our secondary even with a hobbled Jimmy Smith.

Webb is an underrated tackler and was a safety in college. He provides us with the best coverage at safety since Ed Reed left. I LIKE this move. Combine him with a proven veteran leader like Eric Weddle and I think the break downs in communication on the back end cease.

We've got to hope that Jimmy's foot is better than last year and he returns to the form he had before the injury. He was beginning to look a lot like a 1st round lock down corner. He and Webb before his injuries were looking like a superstar tandem. Then life in the NFL happened with injuries.

I do think Shareece Wright is a bit of a gamble. He turned in a great half of a season or so, and now he gets a long term and fairly sizeable contract. A healthy Will Davis and a Lazarus Pool bath for Kyle Arrington can help provide nickel and dime depth along with Young.

Improved pass rush will help. Addition by subtraction with the loss of Upshaw. Za'Darius Smith showed some flashes. Need for Jernigan and Carl Davis to step up. Lawrence Guy unheralded force at DE. Hopefully can keep Urban on the field and Kaufusi contributes. Hope that Suggs still has something in the tank for another season or two and if so, that makes life easier for Dumervil. Correa should be help. Think that an addition of another veteran edge situational pass rusher could help (Dwight Freeney).

Lastly, hope that ALL of the guys remain injury free and if they do get banged up it is only for a game or two. We already lost Jumal Rolle for the season...not that I think he would have made the 53 man anyway, but still.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  7 hours ago, GENE2407 said:

What planet are we on here? Our secondary sucks. They got abused by lowly Cleveland, got torched by the Raiders, Bengals, Seattle, SF, Arizona and any other team that dared to throw the ball 40plus times. We had a shot at Ramsey and Myles Jack and passed so we could take the safe pick and a bunch of long-term projects. Sad.

What makes you think Ramsey is so great? the media? his combine #s? Watch the game tape - he has hands like bricks and plays soft - that's why he didn't have the INT numbers. But you think he's a Hall of Famer?

Last time I checked, an elite franchise LT is worth way more than a soft playing Safety.....

Not counting future issues with his knee, who knows if Jack is even the same player after his current knee injury. He hasn't played a down since his significant knee injury last September. Injury aside, he's not a great fit as an ILB - his best position is probably a weakside OLB in a 4-3 defense or an OTTO(Jack) LB with the Jags.

One of the plays on Ramsey's highlight reel is of him closing in on a receiver and knocking the ball away.

If you watch what really happens though you will see that the receiver jukes out Ramsey, breaks his ankles, and then blows right by him down the field. Ramsey to his credit recovers...but the ONLY reason why he makes a play is because the QB severely under throws his receiver and the receiver has to stop dead in his tracks and come back for the ball. Had he been hit in stride Ramsey would have been burned for a score.

[usmccharles]

4 hours ago, Fastynart said:

Stop the presses. "Future is brighter for Ravens secondary". Well, gee it couldn't have been much worse considering the dumb draft choices like Elam made by Newsome. They made no headway since the retirement of Ray Lewis and the aging of Ed Reed. Now maybe they have filled one of those slots, but the stopgap, Daryl Smith, is done, and no replacement is in sight. I like Mosley but he is no Ray Lewis. They had years to get this fixed and did nothing.

Making head way after two of the greatest players of all time at their position retire is going to be hard.  Yea Elam didn't pan out, Webb got injured etc, you act as if they are just ignoring all these positions of need.  Mosely may not be Ray Lewis but he is a damn good LB, only here someone will complain about Mosely not being the next greatest LB of all time.  Every single time you post its nothing but negative, you must be a blast at parties. 

8 hours ago, GENE2407 said:

What planet are we on here? Our secondary sucks. They got abused by lowly Cleveland, got torched by the Raiders, Bengals, Seattle, SF, Arizona and any other team that dared to throw the ball 40plus times. We had a shot at Ramsey and Myles Jack and passed so we could take the safe pick and a bunch of long-term projects. Sad.

Apparently you missed the stats that we were the 2nd rated pass defense the second half of the year after making some changes.  Wright actually stepped up big time and might prove to be a bargain here.  Jimmy was still recovering from an injury that everyone knew would take quite some time, this year he should be better.  Webb moved to safety.  Oh yea, we had zero pass rush, that kind of matters.  We also added Weddle this year.  I don't know how people cant be excited to see how our secondary is.

The hole Ramsey thing is getting old.  We did try to trade with Dallas and we didn't think he was work an added 3rd round.  I agree, having a LT and a potential starting pass rusher to me is better value than hoping Ramsey is going to come in and completely change a secondary.  People act like he was Ed Reed or something in college, the guy had 3 INTs in college and its suppose to get easier in the Pros?  He might be a good player in the NFL, but I don't see Deion Sanders, Ed Reed, or Sherman/ Revis in him....Either did our FO obviously. 

[Drinkmore Beer]

The best pass defense is a good pass rush. Lousy pass rush = few interceptions. We addressed the pass rush in the draft and Suggs is coming back. This is why our pass coverage should be better.

[757RavensFan]

I keep telling folks that the edition of Leslie Frasier is going to be huge for our secondary. 

Plus w/ the addition of Weddle and his dedication of studying the game, I feel better about our secondary. 

Sad thing is, you have to wonder why none of the DBs from last year were identified as students of the game.  

Edited May 13, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[usmccharles]

15 minutes ago, Drinkmore Beer said:

The best pass defense is a good pass rush. Lousy pass rush = few interceptions. We addressed the pass rush in the draft and Suggs is coming back. This is why our pass coverage should be better.

Yea, with the talent we just added it would take a lot of dominos to make our Pass D worse than last year

[J.O.14]

Stop the presses. "Future is brighter for Ravens secondary". Well, gee it couldn't have been much worse considering the dumb draft choices like Elam made by Newsome. They made no headway since the retirement of Ray Lewis and the aging of Ed Reed. Now maybe they have filled one of those slots, but the stopgap, Daryl Smith, is done, and no replacement is in sight. I like Mosley but he is no Ray Lewis. They had years to get this fixed and did nothing.

Yeah, I guess it's easy to draft the next Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.....

[EdBallhawkReed20]

The Myles Jack or Reggie Ragland move in the second irritates me the most of any move in the second round. You needed an immediate starter, but I guess you guys are finally giving Arthur Brown a "chance after waiting forever. He can at least be a scapegoat if the defense doesn't play that well this year at inside linebacker. Just saying, I can see that article coming in the near future as an excuse that could have been corrected in the draft. You don't take a chance on Jack in the first and I don't fault the Ravens. The second round considering you saw Dallas take Jaylon Smith should have been a sure fire sign Jack wasn't lasting for three rounds Ozzie. If Ozzie wanted a CB that bad, disregard that draft board and draft what you wanted I would have rather taken William Jackson 3 opposite of Jimmy Smith. This article shows you guys didn't want Stanley as much as they put on when drafted. I think the Ravens could have fulfilled all needs instead of drafting players that won't start day 1. Jackson and Jack obviously would, just get rid of that draft board system and create a new one that gets the best players at the position of need tat can make an immediate impact. It's not that hard, really for example Eugene Monroe, Terrell Suggs contracts are no where near up, yet that was 1st and 2nd round pick. Yet you need to get young at CB and you need an ILB right now that is ready to play, not to mention WR because you know Steve Smith is leaving. We drafted at least two players at the same position twice so there is no reason we could not have filled all our positions of need...

[rmcjacket23]

15 minutes ago, EdBallhawkReed20 said:

The Myles Jack or Reggie Ragland move in the second irritates me the most of any move in the second round. You needed an immediate starter, but I guess you guys are finally giving Arthur Brown a "chance after waiting forever. He can at least be a scapegoat if the defense doesn't play that well this year at inside linebacker. Just saying, I can see that article coming in the near future as an excuse that could have been corrected in the draft. You don't take a chance on Jack in the first and I don't fault the Ravens. The second round considering you saw Dallas take Jaylon Smith should have been a sure fire sign Jack wasn't lasting for three rounds Ozzie. If Ozzie wanted a CB that bad, disregard that draft board and draft what you wanted I would have rather taken William Jackson 3 opposite of Jimmy Smith. This article shows you guys didn't want Stanley as much as they put on when drafted. I think the Ravens could have fulfilled all needs instead of drafting players that won't start day 1. Jackson and Jack obviously would, just get rid of that draft board system and create a new one that gets the best players at the position of need tat can make an immediate impact. It's not that hard, really for example Eugene Monroe, Terrell Suggs contracts are no where near up, yet that was 1st and 2nd round pick. Yet you need to get young at CB and you need an ILB right now that is ready to play, not to mention WR because you know Steve Smith is leaving. We drafted at least two players at the same position twice so there is no reason we could not have filled all our positions of need...

1. Ragland isn't really the kind of player we are looking for.

His biggest weaknesses on film are by far his inability to defend in pass coverage, and he's not a speed linebacker. Those are the two things we are looking for. He's basically a run stopper on a team that can already stop the run. Plus, we are running a lot of nickel and dime packages, so having two ILBs on the field at one time is becoming less and less important.

2. We are all just guessing on Myles Jack. Clearly 32 NFL teams didn't feel the reward was worth the risk in the 1st round, and time will tell whether he's a productive NFL player.

3. You can't just disregard the draft board in order to take a position... that's a recipe for getting a bunch of under achieving players consistently. You basically are just drafting the position then instead of the player, which makes no sense whatsoever. You don't just take a corner because you want a corner, because then you're just taking a player you may not even like. Its a 50/50 prop at best for corners drafted that actually turn into quality players.

4. Its laughable to say that we shouldn't draft positions that we already have players under contract for. Its literally one of the single worst rationales for drafting I've ever heard, and I can assure you that 32 of 32 NFL teams would vehemently disagree with that notion.

Monroe is injured... a lot. When he's injured, he doesn't play football. When he doesn't play football, an inferior player has to protect a QB who you are paying 8 figures a year too. Not a good thing.

Suggs is coming off a major injury, is aging and declining in productivity. We all saw last season what happened to our pass rush when you suffer an injury. Thinking we should repeat that is laughable.

And that completely disregards the notion that contract length means nothing, because they are written in pencil. Monroe's contract can expire at any single moment in the future, because the Ravens can just cut him. Suggs contract lasts through 2018, but I don't think any reasonable person thinks he's here beyond 2017, and this could easily be his last season and it would surprise nobody.

This whole draft analysis just seems to completely disregard how winning football teams are built. You won't find a winning football team in this league that agrees with your draft strategy. And your entire strategy implies that every single pick we would make would be an impact player in year 1 (never, ever the case) and that all the players we draft will be very good (never, ever the case).

If you thought we could fill all of our needs in the draft, that's an expectation problem on your part, not on the Ravens part.

 

Edited May 11, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[TheConquerorWorm]

The Myles Jack or Reggie Ragland move in the second irritates me the most of any move in the second round. You needed an immediate starter, but I guess you guys are finally giving Arthur Brown a "chance after waiting forever. He can at least be a scapegoat if the defense doesn't play that well this year at inside linebacker. Just saying, I can see that article coming in the near future as an excuse that could have been corrected in the draft. You don't take a chance on Jack in the first and I don't fault the Ravens. The second round considering you saw Dallas take Jaylon Smith should have been a sure fire sign Jack wasn't lasting for three rounds Ozzie. If Ozzie wanted a CB that bad, disregard that draft board and draft what you wanted I would have rather taken William Jackson 3 opposite of Jimmy Smith. This article shows you guys didn't want Stanley as much as they put on when drafted. I think the Ravens could have fulfilled all needs instead of drafting players that won't start day 1. Jackson and Jack obviously would, just get rid of that draft board system and create a new one that gets the best players at the position of need tat can make an immediate impact. It's not that hard, really for example Eugene Monroe, Terrell Suggs contracts are no where near up, yet that was 1st and 2nd round pick. Yet you need to get young at CB and you need an ILB right now that is ready to play, not to mention WR because you know Steve Smith is leaving. We drafted at least two players at the same position twice so there is no reason we could not have filled all our positions of need...

You are assuming Jack is the same player he was 2 years ago. You do realize that he hasn't played a down since his significant knee injury in Sept. And will need another significant knee surgery again sooner than later. And what makes you think Jack is a good ILB? This is not Madden. He lacks the size to play ILB and he's not good at shedding blockers (which is something an ILB has to be good at). He's an OLB in a 4-3 defense or an OTTO LB for the Jags - that's rush the passer & cover the tight end. It's not what an ILB does and is not a great fit in our defense.

And you want us to take William Jackson III with the #6 overall pick? The guy that got TORCHED by our 4th Round pick Chris Moore?

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I keep reading on this board that we didn't draft any "day one" starters. Guess what folks, based on how our team is currently constructed and what we wanted in the draft that would have been a hard thing to do.

First of all, Ronnie Stanley is a day one starter somewhere on the O-line. Maybe at LT over Monroe if he gets cut, or maybe at LG if Monroe is able to suit up. Alex Lewis looks like he can back up at RT and possibly swing guard. Ricky Wagner didn't look like himself last year because he was playing through a foot injury. If he's not ready to go we need somebody to take his spot.

Secondly, any edge rusher they would have drafted would not start over Suggs or Dumervil unless those guys are just incapable of playing football anymore. That being said I think we'll see plenty of Correa if he's any good subbing in for Suggs and Dumervil to give them breathers.

Bronson Kaufusi COULD start. We lost Chris Canty and as far as I am seeing from what is left on the roster, nobody has stepped up and claimed his spot on the line. You know Brandon Williams is starting at NT, Lawrence Guy played well enough last season for me to say that he's got a job to lose. Somebody has to take it from him, and then on the other end you have Timmy Jernigan, Carl Davis, Brent Urban, Bronson Kaufusi, and I guess even Willie Henry. That job is probably Jernigan's to lose. So at both ends there could be a position battle brewing.

Tavon Young has a shot to earn the starting slot corner role. That may not technically be a starting position but given how many times we go nickel defense it will be significant playing time. If Chris Moore can prove he's not a one trick pony and can actually beat coverage downfield, he will play...a lot. He's our insurance plan on Perriman if he's not healthy and Mike Wallace if he's not the guy we think he still could be.

So some of these guys might not be starters day one of the 2016 season, but the idea is that a good number of them will be starters within the next couple of seasons. That's how you draft.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I read a lot of noise about Arthur Brown being the starter next to Mosley. I don't think that's what is gonna happen. He was LAST on the depth chart behind Zach Orr and Albert McClellan last season and I don't see the Ravens changing that this year unless he just has a miracle breakthrough. They brought in a couple of UDFA's for MLB and I think they got a serious chance of beating out Brown for his roster spot if they show they can play. I think the ILB job is Orr's to lose.

[GENE2407]

Drugs Eisenberg, we are no better off. Weddle is an A-plus addition who can clean up some mess, but a safety can't cover AJ Green or Antonio Brown. Nor can our ILBs cover LeVeon Bell or Giovanni Bernard. Pass rush can't help those guys. It's going to be another long season for the defense.

[GENE2407]

I read a lot of noise about Arthur Brown being the starter next to Mosley. I don't think that's what is gonna happen. He was LAST on the depth chart behind Zach Orr and Albert McClellan last season and I don't see the Ravens changing that this year unless he just has a miracle breakthrough. They brought in a couple of UDFA's for MLB and I think they got a serious chance of beating out Brown for his roster spot if they show they can play. I think the ILB job is Orr's to lose.

I don't know why Brown is even on the roster. No real playing time in 5 years. Reminds me of Jah Reid, he never plays but is somehow always listed as our "primary" backup.

[trevorsteadman]

2 minutes ago, GENE2407 said:

Drugs Eisenberg, we are no better off. Weddle is an A-plus addition who can clean up some mess, but a safety can't cover AJ Green or Antonio Brown. Nor can our ILBs cover LeVeon Bell or Giovanni Bernard. Pass rush can't help those guys. It's going to be another long season for the defense.

We were the #1 passing defense the last 8 games of the season calm down. That was without Suggs and Weddle. Now we have those guys and all our draft picks.

[GENE2407]

I keep reading on this board that we didn't draft any "day one" starters. Guess what folks, based on how our team is currently constructed and what we wanted in the draft that would have been a hard thing to do.

First of all, Ronnie Stanley is a day one starter somewhere on the O-line. Maybe at LT over Monroe if he gets cut, or maybe at LG if Monroe is able to suit up. Alex Lewis looks like he can back up at RT and possibly swing guard. Ricky Wagner didn't look like himself last year because he was playing through a foot injury. If he's not ready to go we need somebody to take his spot.

Secondly, any edge rusher they would have drafted would not start over Suggs or Dumervil unless those guys are just incapable of playing football anymore. That being said I think we'll see plenty of Correa if he's any good subbing in for Suggs and Dumervil to give them breathers.

Bronson Kaufusi COULD start. We lost Chris Canty and as far as I am seeing from what is left on the roster, nobody has stepped up and claimed his spot on the line. You know Brandon Williams is starting at NT, Lawrence Guy played well enough last season for me to say that he's got a job to lose. Somebody has to take it from him, and then on the other end you have Timmy Jernigan, Carl Davis, Brent Urban, Bronson Kaufusi, and I guess even Willie Henry. That job is probably Jernigan's to lose. So at both ends there could be a position battle brewing.

Tavon Young has a shot to earn the starting slot corner role. That may not technically be a starting position but given how many times we go nickel defense it will be significant playing time. If Chris Moore can prove he's not a one trick pony and can actually beat coverage downfield, he will play...a lot. He's our insurance plan on Perriman if he's not healthy and Mike Wallace if he's not the guy we think he still could be.

So some of these guys might not be starters day one of the 2016 season, but the idea is that a good number of them will be starters within the next couple of seasons. That's how you draft.

I think Stanley's a day-one starter, my beef is that he was not an elite player and passing up on Tunsil (yes I know we had to but it sucks) and not making a move for Ramsey is going to be regrettable. Everyone else looks like a project.....guys who won't be producing for another 2 years.

[rmcjacket23]

12 minutes ago, GENE2407 said:

I think Stanley's a day-one starter, my beef is that he was not an elite player and passing up on Tunsil (yes I know we had to but it sucks) and not making a move for Ramsey is going to be regrettable. Everyone else looks like a project.....guys who won't be producing for another 2 years.

The entire draft class for the most part was just one big "project" this season. Nobody really thinks Ramsey is going to walk off the bus and dominate in his first season... not even the Jags think that.

 

[trevorsteadman]

14 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

The entire draft class for the most part was just one big "project" this season. Nobody really thinks Ramsey is going to walk off the bus and dominate in his first season... not even the Jags think that.

 

I agree this entire draft class there doesn't seem to be as dominate and NFL ready players like they used to. It seems teams are drafting potential over production which sometimes works in stiuations but players with production are usually safer. This year there was not really many for sure players coming out, I think Goff and Wentz are both project players, along with Bosa, Ramsey, Jack, Tunsil, and Stanley. The one player I think was a sure fire pick was Jaylon Smith until his knee injury to be honest and now that is not even a for sure thing. Jack is even more of a question mark with his injury. You can say Tunsil was a million miles ahead of Stanley but I bet you that Stanley has a better rookie season than Tunsil just because Stanley played in a more NFL ready offense and covered 1 on 1 very well out on his own side. I think Tunsil looked better than he was sometimes because of the offensive system in place at Ole Miss.

[CaliRavenFan]

I actually love our entire Defense, the only weakness I can honestly say we have is at ILB. Thats why I think we should run more Dime and 4-3 packages, the NFL is a passing league and all about speed.

Besides the addition of Frasier I think Chemistry in our secondary is a huge thing being under looked right now. Jimmy and Wright are best friends that know what the other guy is going to do before he even does it. Weddle and Wright played together and will pick that chemistry right back up and we already know Jimmy and Webb are superstars.

We will have a Top 3 Defense this year, Win the Division and have Home Field Advantage throughout our Playoffs to win that SuperBowl for Smitty, Sizzle, Dooms last ride and Tray Walker. This will be a special year and it has already stared with our Great Draft, Brady and Bryants Suspension.

[mearzunkies]

I actually love our entire Defense, the only weakness I can honestly say we have is at ILB. Thats why I think we should run more Dime and 4-3 packages, the NFL is a passing league and all about speed.

Besides the addition of Frasier I think Chemistry in our secondary is a huge thing being under looked right now. Jimmy and Wright are best friends that know what the other guy is going to do before he even does it. Weddle and Wright played together and will pick that chemistry right back up and we already know Jimmy and Webb are superstars.

We will have a Top 3 Defense this year, Win the Division and have Home Field Advantage throughout our Playoffs to win that SuperBowl for Smitty, Sizzle, Dooms last ride and Tray Walker. This will be a special year and it has already stared with our Great Draft, Brady and Bryants Suspension.

I agree the chemistry is going to be MUCH improved with the addition of Frasier and Weddle. That should be a given. Another H.C and a prime of his career veteran. Go OZ!

[GENE2407]

  21 hours ago, GENE2407 said:

Drugs Eisenberg, we are no better off. Weddle is an A-plus addition who can clean up some mess, but a safety can't cover AJ Green or Antonio Brown. Nor can our ILBs cover LeVeon Bell or Giovanni Bernard. Pass rush can't help those guys. It's going to be another long season for the defense.

We were the #1 passing defense the last 8 games of the season calm down. That was without Suggs and Weddle. Now we have those guys and all our draft picks.

Go back and watch the games. Those teams tried to run the ball 35 times, inexplicably (including the Steelers who ran the ball on the first 10 plays). Mark my word, whenever a team had to or needed to throw the ball, they just dropped back and got it. 10, 15, 20 yards a pop. We were hopeless against those teams and more of the same will come this year. We can't cover, no undoing that now.

[CaliRavenFan]

2 hours ago, GENE2407 said:

Go back and watch the games. Those teams tried to run the ball 35 times, inexplicably (including the Steelers who ran the ball on the first 10 plays). Mark my word, whenever a team had to or needed to throw the ball, they just dropped back and got it. 10, 15, 20 yards a pop. We were hopeless against those teams and more of the same will come this year. We can't cover, no undoing that now.

That will all change with Leslie coaching up the DBs, Don't underestimate how valuable he was of an addition.

Not only do we have a lot of competition across our Defense but Pees knows that if he doesnt have our boys playing the way they should we already have the coach and on the staff to replace him.

The Defensive line coach is familiar with his Defensive Schemes and will make the tansition easier if its something we decide to do before or during our bye week. 

I dont see the point in being so negative about our team and players already, we have a great group of players and staff that prepare every day to go out and compete like a Raven. Personally I cant wait for the preseason so we can finally get a good look at our Rookies and that also means only a month away from the regular season.

[trevorsteadman]

3 hours ago, GENE2407 said:

Go back and watch the games. Those teams tried to run the ball 35 times, inexplicably (including the Steelers who ran the ball on the first 10 plays). Mark my word, whenever a team had to or needed to throw the ball, they just dropped back and got it. 10, 15, 20 yards a pop. We were hopeless against those teams and more of the same will come this year. We can't cover, no undoing that now.

We were also #8 in rushing defense in the league during that time. We also beat the Steelers because we limited Bryant's and Brown's big plays. People want to say we are bad on defense because the 2013 season we were torched and 2014 we struggled a little bit. Last season was a different story and it will continue to improve with Weddle and Frazier additions. That was with our offense giving the ball away constantly. Our defense has always been bend don't break. If we have the lead we would rather a team run 5 yards a carry on us than them throwing 80 yard bombs and scoring quickly. That is how we always lose to the Bengals. Add in 2 cornerbacks and 4 pass rushing draft picks... I think the Ravens are in good shape besides at inside linebacker which they may just start running a 4-3 because we ran that a good chunk of time last season.

[Crusader]

Dream on. Secondary takes years for team to gel. 2012 these guys played together for years Lardarius Webb, Jimmy Smith, Cary Williams, Corey Graham, Chykie Brown.

[JimmyBlack]

A healthy Eric Weddle is the key to the Ravens secondary this year.  He gives us that veteran leadership that we've been lacking since Ed Reed left the Ravens. Weddle had 78 tackles last season.  Compare this to Webb and Smith, who tied at 54 tackles, and you see why this is important.  One thing that needs to change is that we need more than 6 interceptions for the season.