2016 Draft a Franchise: Discussion Thread

[BmoreBird22]

37 minutes ago, PuRock said:

Fair enough, I agree that he's had some players around him.  He's not playing with a bunch of bottom-feeding scrubs.  But most competent teams (outside of the Browns) typically have some playmakers and guys who can step up and play role parts. TE is obviously an elite option.          

Hey now, Charlie Brown might actually be able to play if Lucy afforded him the chance.  

Might want to take that name out. 

None of those guys outside of his TE played at an elite or even great level; that I will admit. However, they all played their role well and as a whole, it added up to a great offense. It's kinda how I picture the Ravens offense will look this year. They aren't gonna have an Arizona or Pitt type season, but something like the Panthers is totally feasible

[BmoreBird22]

Totally surprised to see Brown go off so soon because wide receiver is fairly deep and everyone knows I'm not huge on inside linebackers early. However, if you are gonna take a linebacker early, there isn't a better one to man a 4-3 with.

[RavensFanMania]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Might want to take that name out. 

None of those guys outside of his TE played at an elite or even great level; that I will admit. However, they all played their role well and as a whole, it added up to a great offense. It's kinda how I picture the Ravens offense will look this year. They aren't gonna have an Arizona or Pitt type season, but something like the Panthers is totally feasible

Lucy or Charlie?

[regz1997]

41 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Your welcome....

Who did you want?

Hoped Keek would fall to the back of round one as he did last year. All you new peeps are throwing off my plans! 

Edited May 10, 2016 by regz1997

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, regz1997 said:

Hoped Keek would fall to the back of round one as he did last year. All you new peeps are throwing off my plans! 

It was 'Kuechly no matter what' for me

[regz1997]

1 minute ago, usmccharles said:

It was 'Kuechly no matter what' for me

Well I suppose that's somewhat comforting haha

[regz1997]

Kuechly is definitely a star and franchise cornerstone. Best ILB in the league plus he should be around for several years

[usmccharles]

Just now, regz1997 said:

Kuechly is definitely a star and franchise cornerstone. Best ILB in the league plus he should be around for several years

Yea i had no issue taking him ahead of the QBs left.  Easy choice.. 

[Mt. Crushmore]

4 hours ago, ludy51 said:

Can't say I expected that.

So the Shufflers are gonna need a QB for weeks 1-4.

Thanks @52520Andrew for posting my pick. I had the fun of wisdom teeth this morning.

Taking Brady so early may be a surprise, but I'm obviously pretty comfortable with it. My other 3 years I've gone rookie (bust), rookie (Carr) and 2nd year QB (you know who) and I've had mixed results. Having built so young the other years I wanted to maybe go a different route and the board fell that way for me.

I know Brady 38 (39 in August), but he hasn't shown any signs of slowing down and is right now is probably a top 3 QB in the league. Love him or hate him, you can't deny how good he is. This isn't like Peyton Manning at this age where there were clear signs of regression. Brady is still on top form and he did it last year with injuries everywhere. In real life he's signed for 4 more years and I definitely think he can do that. At least 1 still at elite level maybe more. Even then, that's a 4 year Super Bowl window with a QB you just don't bet against, even if he starts to regress a bit.

As for the suspension, I'm not too worried. He was actually take 4th last year by @CalvinSmoke if I remember correctly and he was facing the suspension then too. I doubt that the suspension gets overturned so I'll need a QB for weeks 1-4, but I'll get a pissed off Tom Brady for the rest of the season and we all know how that turns out.

Obviously is a slightly risky move and there were plenty of QBs I liked left on the board (still have QBs #6 and #7 available on my board), but Brady is the one I really wanted. 

I'm currently 1 for 1 on the dream draft scenario. Now to have my 2nd round guy fall to me.

[Mt. Crushmore]

@KDUBB44 is up

[Mt. Crushmore]

With the way this draft is shaping up, this could be the best year yet to be selecting late.

[Mt. Crushmore]

5 hours ago, BALTIMOREFLACCO said:

I'm Taking Shane Buechele in Four Years

Of course

[Mt. Crushmore]

Next 6 picks:

@KDUBB44 (on the clock now)

@ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

@BOLDnPurPnBlacK

@Archeearl92

@Deflated Football

@CalvinSmoke

Edited May 10, 2016 by Mt. Crushmore

[CalvinSmoke]

33 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Yea i had no issue taking him ahead of the QBs left.  Easy choice.. 

Best player available man, respect. I wanted him though lol

[regz1997]

This one might be a skip. He hasn't been on since Saturday 

[RaineV1]

4 hours ago, regz1997 said:

Better than RG3 that's for sure 

 

4 hours ago, ludy51 said:

HAH. I remember that from last year

Bleh. A rushed picked that I lived to regret. I doubt I'll regret taking Taylor though.

[allblackraven]

16 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

 

Bleh. A rushed picked that I lived to regret. I doubt I'll regret taking Taylor though.

Maybe not but to me, Tyrod has no business going in 1st round.

[regz1997]

5 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Maybe not but to me, Tyrod has no business going in 1st round.

Agreed. In my opinion there were more franchise-cornerstone-esque players available 

[RaineV1]

I'm going to disagree on that. He carried a lackluster offense and did far better than most would have in his situation. I think he'll continue being one of the better QBs in the league, and continue to have on the best deep balls among all the QBs. He's a guy I'm confident building around.

PFF did a good article on breakout players with Tyrod at the very top.

Quote

Another area of Taylor’s game that surprised was his enhanced ability under pressure. While all quarterbacks become worse under pressure (and Taylor is no exception), he was less worse than the NFL average, as his passer rating dipped just 16.7 points (from 104.3 with no pressure to 87.6 under pressure) compared to 26.5 avg. (98.2 to 71.7).

Of all the things Taylor brings to the table, the most impressive part of his game is his uncanny ability to make the “wow” throws. He ranked third in the league in such throws with nine, behind (redacted) (11) and (redacted) (10) and just ahead of Derek Carr at six. These “wow” throws are of variety that take incredible accuracy and timing, while beating extremely tight coverage.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/13/pro-tyrod-taylor-leads-the-way-as-pffs-breakthrough-player-of-2015/

Link will have some player names of course, but I took them out of the quote.

Edited May 10, 2016 by RaineV1

[PuRock]

14 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I'm going to disagree on that. He carried a lackluster offense and did far better than most would have in his situation. I think he'll continue being one of the better QBs in the league, and continue to have on the best deep balls among all the QBs. He's a guy I'm confident building around.

That's all that matters.  For that, I say good pick.  

Edited May 10, 2016 by PuRock

[ravensdan]

7 hours ago, BALTIMOREFLACCO said:

I believe in the Jaguars!

That was a good pick. I like Bortles and Winston better than Mariota Carr and Wilson. 

[ravensdan]

6 hours ago, ludy51 said:

Mack and Miller both do more overall however

I don't think so. No defender does more singlehanded to wreck an offensive game plan than Donald outside of watt. You can take Mack it Miller out of the game. 

[CalvinSmoke]

5 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

I don't think so. No defender does more singlehanded to wreck an offensive game plan than Donald outside of watt. You can take Mack it Miller out of the game. 

Yea Donald is  crazy, he'll get his respect soon enough 

[Mt. Crushmore]

I have @ALSKAN RAVEN FAN's board 

[ludy51]

48 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

I don't think so. No defender does more singlehanded to wreck an offensive game plan than Donald outside of watt. You can take Mack it Miller out of the game. 

I'll believe it when I see it

[VeiledPsychosis]

52 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

I don't think so. No defender does more singlehanded to wreck an offensive game plan than Donald outside of watt. You can take Mack it Miller out of the game. 

I have to disagree entirely on that. Watt is on a level above all 3 of Donald, Mack, and Miller, but if anything those three are on equal footing. Donald takes away the middle in the run game and can get pressure from the inside but Mack is easily one of, if not the, best at setting the edge and notched 15 sacks last year. If you aren't willing to accept Mack > Donald in wrecking game plans you have to at least give them equal ground here...

[ravensdan]

34 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

I'll believe it when I see it

What do you mean?  Donald is not an unknown quantity here. He's a wrecking ball in the middle of any offensive game plan. Interior pressure wrecks an offensive game plan quicker than the edge and affects every type of offense. Edge guys can be taken out of the play in many different ways. And after JJ Aaron is the guy here. 

[ludy51]

4 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

What do you mean?  Donald is not an unknown quantity here. He's a wrecking ball in the middle of any offensive game plan. Interior pressure wrecks an offensive game plan quicker than the edge and affects every type of offense. Edge guys can be taken out of the play in many different ways. And after JJ Aaron is the guy here. 

"Edge guys" can be taken out. Mack and Miller are on another level 

[VeiledPsychosis]

10 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

What do you mean?  Donald is not an unknown quantity here. He's a wrecking ball in the middle of any offensive game plan. Interior pressure wrecks an offensive game plan quicker than the edge and affects every type of offense. Edge guys can be taken out of the play in many different ways. And after JJ Aaron is the guy here. 

Sounds like he was talking about your comment right above that one and just quoted the other one by mistake. "I'll believe it when I see it" makes more sense talking about the QBs than your other comment. EDIT: guess not...

And to be fair, it's just as easy to take an interior dlineman out of a game compared to an edge player, screens and outside run plays spring to mind immediately. In fact I'd argue it's easier considering Edge guys deal with runs, pass rushing, and the added responsibilities in coverage as well that DTs rare deal with, if at all. If you're willing to acknowledge that interior guys can only be so effective as pass rushers then you must be able to acknowledge that an edge guy can only be so effective against the run considering they're dealing with 20+ yards on their own.

Edited May 11, 2016 by VeiledPsychosis

[ludy51]

12 minutes ago, VeiledPsychosis said:

Sounds like he was talking about your comment right above that one and just quoted the other one by mistake. "I'll believe it when I see it" makes more sense talking about the QBs than your other comment. EDIT: guess not...

Lol