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Rule #1....and the only rule. Never get excited about players making plays in shorts and a jersey. How many times have we been through this?

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Unfortunately for Kaufusi he happens to be the guy picked in the spot that should have been traded for Ramsey. Now eyes will be on him because everyone I have spoken to or analyst I have heard has said the Ravens blew it on this pick by not trading it for Ramsey. Now he doesn't even get on the field and that is just going to fuel that fire even more. If he ends up being a bust and barely sees playing time and was the guy that Ozzie chose over Ramsey, the storm about Elam will seem like a shower because it will be a hurricane when the fans start harping on the trade that Ozzie refused even though he had all those fourth round picks. For Kaufusi and Ozzie'ssake I hope he gets on the field soon and shows something cause there will be a bullseye on Kaufusi's back.

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Unfortunately for Kaufusi he happens to be the guy picked in the spot that should have been traded for Ramsey. Now eyes will be on him because everyone I have spoken to or analyst I have heard has said the Ravens blew it on this pick by not trading it for Ramsey. Now he doesn't even get on the field and that is just going to fuel that fire even more. If he ends up being a bust and barely sees playing time and was the guy that Ozzie chose over Ramsey, the storm about Elam will seem like a shower because it will be a hurricane when the fans start harping on the trade that Ozzie refused even though he had all those fourth round picks. For Kaufusi and Ozzie'ssake I hope he gets on the field soon and shows something cause there will be a bullseye on Kaufusi's back.

While I believe Kaufusi will be a solid pass rusher for the Ravens for a long time, I also believe Stanley's career will rival and maybe exceed Ramsey's. So, just because you seem to have heard something doesn't make it so. Let us wait and see.

In a few years, we'll be marveling at Ozzie's genius like we usually do. For one, while I was a big Ramsey supporter, I've learned to understand and fall in line with our picks after doing extensive research on these prospects.

Did you know for example Kaufusi was rumored to be a Seahawks pick in the first round (Rumored may be the wrong word, but at least their blog site wanted him to be)?

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What a bummer for the "few guys" we had to cut. Flew all the way out here, passed the physical, and then let go on their first day. Best wishes for all the rookies going forward!

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Rule #1....and the only rule. Never get excited about players making plays in shorts and a jersey. How many times have we been through this?

BINGO!

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I was pretty happy with our draft, except for Kamalei Correa! We should've either picked Noah Spence ( To fix our pass rush) or Reggie Ragland(To shore up ILB). IMO Kamalei Correa doesn't have the athletiscm and strength to succeed in the NFl. He's very stiff and cant bend around the tackle. HE doesn't utilize any pass rush moves.

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Unfortunately for Kaufusi he happens to be the guy picked in the spot that should have been traded for Ramsey. Now eyes will be on him because everyone I have spoken to or analyst I have heard has said the Ravens blew it on this pick by not trading it for Ramsey. Now he doesn't even get on the field and that is just going to fuel that fire even more. If he ends up being a bust and barely sees playing time and was the guy that Ozzie chose over Ramsey, the storm about Elam will seem like a shower because it will be a hurricane when the fans start harping on the trade that Ozzie refused even though he had all those fourth round picks. For Kaufusi and Ozzie'ssake I hope he gets on the field soon and shows something cause there will be a bullseye on Kaufusi's back.

You gonna try to lay all that on a 4th round pick? Don't forget the first round pick we would have got too. So Ramsey will have to play better than both those guys put together. Dallas wanted too muc and Ozzie didn't want to give up #70 + #6 to move up just 2 spots.

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I was pretty happy with our draft, except for Kamalei Correa! We should've either picked Noah Spence ( To fix our pass rush) or Reggie Ragland(To shore up ILB). IMO Kamalei Correa doesn't have the athletiscm and strength to succeed in the NFl. He's very stiff and cant bend around the tackle. HE doesn't utilize any pass rush moves.

I couldn't agree more. I watched game film on Correa against 2 different Mountain West opponents and he got dominated, making literally no impact. He didn't have any burst or pass rush moves, and once an offensive lineman got his hands on him it was over, he has no get off. From the film I can't understand the buzz around him and why the Ravens would have passed on so many other proven options with that 2nd round pick. It's very confusing and my only rationale is that he must have been playing through some kind of injury in the games that I watched.....at least I hope that was the case.

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23 minutes ago, #PlayLikeARaven1234567890 said:

I was pretty happy with our draft, except for Kamalei Correa! We should've either picked Noah Spence ( To fix our pass rush) or Reggie Ragland(To shore up ILB). IMO Kamalei Correa doesn't have the athletiscm and strength to succeed in the NFl. He's very stiff and cant bend around the tackle. HE doesn't utilize any pass rush moves.

 

6 minutes ago, napaman said:

I couldn't agree more. I watched game film on Correa against 2 different Mountain West opponents and he got dominated, making literally no impact. He didn't have any burst or pass rush moves, and once an offensive lineman got his hands on him it was over, he has no get off. From the film I can't understand the buzz around him and why the Ravens would have passed on so many other proven options with that 2nd round pick. It's very confusing and my only rationale is that he must have been playing through some kind of injury in the games that I watched.....at least I hope that was the case.

Good thing its up to him to prove all the nay-sayers wrong. When we first drafted him I did not even know his name because I never heard it before so I was like ???WHO? but he has a motor and now he has coaches and tutors (SIZZLE AND DOOM) to help him out

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Not falling for anything in this article. Ronnie Stanley having no trouble creating running lanes....yea but against whom is he facing???

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  1 hour ago, #PlayLikeARaven1234567890 said:

I was pretty happy with our draft, except for Kamalei Correa! We should've either picked Noah Spence ( To fix our pass rush) or Reggie Ragland(To shore up ILB). IMO Kamalei Correa doesn't have the athletiscm and strength to succeed in the NFl. He's very stiff and cant bend around the tackle. HE doesn't utilize any pass rush moves.

 

  49 minutes ago, napaman said:

I couldn't agree more. I watched game film on Correa against 2 different Mountain West opponents and he got dominated, making literally no impact. He didn't have any burst or pass rush moves, and once an offensive lineman got his hands on him it was over, he has no get off. From the film I can't understand the buzz around him and why the Ravens would have passed on so many other proven options with that 2nd round pick. It's very confusing and my only rationale is that he must have been playing through some kind of injury in the games that I watched.....at least I hope that was the case.

Good thing its up to him to prove all the nay-sayers wrong. When we first drafted him I did not even know his name because I never heard it before so I was like ???WHO? but he has a motor and now he has coaches and tutors (SIZZLE AND DOOM) to help him out

If a player doesn't possess the talent and skills to be dominating, idt Suggs or Doom would make a difference. Correa either has it or he doesn't. No such thing as "suggs and doom to help him out"

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  1 hour ago, #PlayLikeARaven1234567890 said:

I was pretty happy with our draft, except for Kamalei Correa! We should've either picked Noah Spence ( To fix our pass rush) or Reggie Ragland(To shore up ILB). IMO Kamalei Correa doesn't have the athletiscm and strength to succeed in the NFl. He's very stiff and cant bend around the tackle. HE doesn't utilize any pass rush moves.

 

  1 hour ago, napaman said:

I couldn't agree more. I watched game film on Correa against 2 different Mountain West opponents and he got dominated, making literally no impact. He didn't have any burst or pass rush moves, and once an offensive lineman got his hands on him it was over, he has no get off. From the film I can't understand the buzz around him and why the Ravens would have passed on so many other proven options with that 2nd round pick. It's very confusing and my only rationale is that he must have been playing through some kind of injury in the games that I watched.....at least I hope that was the case.

Good thing its up to him to prove all the nay-sayers wrong. When we first drafted him I did not even know his name because I never heard it before so I was like ???WHO? but he has a motor and now he has coaches and tutors (SIZZLE AND DOOM) to help him out

He moved up to Mike Mayock's top 5 edge rushers within the last 2 or so weeks before the draft. I've heard of him.

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I don't know how people on this message board think they can draw a career outlook for any player based on one practice session. Unless somebody flashes some serious credentials here as an NFL scout or front office badge or something; and I say this as carefully and tactfully as I can and do not intend this as an insult, we really don't know anything.

We think we know something based on what tape we've seen, the combine results, etc. Until these guys start lining up against NFL opponents you just don't know what they can and can't do.

You have to have God given ability to play in the NFL. You can get stronger, you can get even get a little faster, and you can learn techniques like some pass rush moves or how to position yourself to get an edge. But there is something inside every NFL player that you just have to have or you don't have it. If scouts knew what that was and how to measure it, there would never be a bust pick.

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We keep talking about Correa what about Stanley, will he be any better then the several other tackles taken in this draft? To answer that no I don't think so. If guys like Lawson, Buckner, Spriggs, Shepard, Ragland etc end up being better then I'll be mad because we could have traded down from 6th and got any one of these combos. I wanted Lawson in the first he didn't get selected till like 19th, coulda got some good picks from that. I projected Ragland to fall out the first because the issue with his heart so in the 2nd he coulda been a steal but we needed a tackle and who would be better then Spriggs!? I had us taking Lawson and then Spriggs in the 2nd, he fell to the middle of the 2nd how do we not see that value in that, he will be a better pro then the Tackles picked in the first just watch. Hes faster, Stronger and just better the Stanley who I think is soft. Another player I really wanted is Sterling Shepard who might just be the next Steve Smith for the next 10 yr. But hey who am I just a ravens fan right.

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Not only that we like to pick and choose when we take players with off the field issues like Tunsil, Spence, Burfict, Jimmy Smith etc but we draft a guy in the 4th rd who was arrested and had to transfer schools because he choose to jump a guy and bash dudes head into a brick wall or w.e. Just funny how we pick and choose but it will end up bitting us in the booty if we keep doing this. Some good players we have past on in the past. Look up Alex Lewis.

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I don't understand why they drafted Reynolds. He is not a wide receiver or a running back. To expect him to be able to compete with guys who are is ridiculous. Now, if they drafted him to fill a role such as Kordell Steward did for Pittsburgh, that would make some sense. Otherwise the Ravens are wasting their time and his. He is a gifted athlete who can do a lot of things. Wish him well.

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3 hours ago, napaman said:

I couldn't agree more. I watched game film on Correa against 2 different Mountain West opponents and he got dominated, making literally no impact. He didn't have any burst or pass rush moves, and once an offensive lineman got his hands on him it was over, he has no get off. From the film I can't understand the buzz around him and why the Ravens would have passed on so many other proven options with that 2nd round pick. It's very confusing and my only rationale is that he must have been playing through some kind of injury in the games that I watched.....at least I hope that was the case.

I sure hope Ozzie watched as much game film as you did before making this pick. I mean 2 different opponents. 

Please understand that the FO and all of our scouts and personnel travel the country all season to watch these games and talk to coaches. They know so much more than any of us could ever retain from a few games. They know what to look for, little tendencies, body language, ect...

And please, please don't take anything away from a highlight video on YouTube. Let me just say this, have you ever seen a bad highlight video?

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1 hour ago, FLBoyRaven said:

We keep talking about Correa what about Stanley, will he be any better then the several other tackles taken in this draft? To answer that no I don't think so. If guys like Lawson, Buckner, Spriggs, Shepard, Ragland etc end up being better then I'll be mad because we could have traded down from 6th and got any one of these combos. I wanted Lawson in the first he didn't get selected till like 19th, coulda got some good picks from that. I projected Ragland to fall out the first because the issue with his heart so in the 2nd he coulda been a steal but we needed a tackle and who would be better then Spriggs!? I had us taking Lawson and then Spriggs in the 2nd, he fell to the middle of the 2nd how do we not see that value in that, he will be a better pro then the Tackles picked in the first just watch. Hes faster, Stronger and just better the Stanley who I think is soft. Another player I really wanted is Sterling Shepard who might just be the next Steve Smith for the next 10 yr. But hey who am I just a ravens fan right.

Stanley will be the starting left tackle before 4-5 games due to the simple fact that Monroe can't stay on the field.

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4 hours ago, sami said:

You gonna try to lay all that on a 4th round pick? Don't forget the first round pick we would have got too. So Ramsey will have to play better than both those guys put together. Dallas wanted too muc and Ozzie didn't want to give up #70 + #6 to move up just 2 spots.

I totally agree that Dallas wanted way too MUCH.  Ramsey isn't that interception instant coffee nor slow drip machine that we needed.  I would love to have taken him at number 6.  I'm satisfied with Stanley because for years I was thinking that it is a shame that we always miss out on the top talent at OT because they are gone when we pick.  We get the new engine for the old pickup truck, not the flashy paint job on the new Mustang.  I'd rather have a healthy Flacco when Monroe goes down to injury by the 4th game.

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I am still a firm believer that Correa will play inside next to CJ, thats his best position in the NFL and Bronson, Judon and Ochi can learn behind Sizzle and Doom.

5 hours ago, #PlayLikeARaven1234567890 said:

I was pretty happy with our draft, except for Kamalei Correa! We should've either picked Noah Spence ( To fix our pass rush) or Reggie Ragland(To shore up ILB). IMO Kamalei Correa doesn't have the athletiscm and strength to succeed in the NFl. He's very stiff and cant bend around the tackle. HE doesn't utilize any pass rush moves.

 

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The Ravens didn't get any Buckeyes but I like all the picks was sniveling when they picked a player from that school up north but I'm over it now Henry mite fit well in the rotation! "THE ANTICIPATION IS ASTOUNDING"!

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I was at the Rookie practice yesterday (thanks BR.com) and here's what I saw:

Correa was in the QB's face all day - single drills, 11 on 11, etc.

Stanley at LT & Lewis at LG were a beast of a left side. Some serious size. They shutdown Judon & Henry on pass plays and made big holes on run plays. Could be what we see opening day on the left side and I'm good with that.

Judon has a nice speed rush but he needs to work on the other aspects of his game. He does explode off the ball though.

Chris Moore looked really, really good. He even looked good returning kicks. I heard the Torrey Smith comps going in but didn't believe it. He looks almost EXACTLY like Smith.

Ochi has a nice bull rush but I think NFL Tackles will eat him up - I now know why he was undrafted.

Tavon Young also looked really, really good. If he was 2 inches taller, he's a Top 10 overall pick (better than Apple, Alexander, Willie Jax III). He smothered the WR in all drills.

I wasn't that impressed with Canady - he looks a little stiff and likes to grab & hold onto the WR to make up for it. Needs some work.

Willie Henry will be a DT stud in 2 years (he's only 21). Thanks Bro Harbaugh for that lay-up.

On a side note: Tackle Blaine Clausell is a HUGE man. He looked like the Wildling Giant from Game of Thrones....



 

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6 hours ago, FLBoyRaven said:

Not only that we like to pick and choose when we take players with off the field issues like Tunsil, Spence, Burfict, Jimmy Smith etc but we draft a guy in the 4th rd who was arrested and had to transfer schools because he choose to jump a guy and bash dudes head into a brick wall or w.e. Just funny how we pick and choose but it will end up bitting us in the booty if we keep doing this. Some good players we have past on in the past. Look up Alex Lewis.

You pick and choose your poisons based off of risk/reward.

A guy like Jimmy Smith had issues with weed that the Ravens were sure they could clean up and he had lock down corner potential with rare size and speed for the position. Smith also was a 27th overall pick. Tunsil was slotted to us at #6 and would be responsible for protecting a franchise QB and he has shown some very poor judgement. It wasn't just about the pot. He was in Robert Nkemdiche's apartment when Nkemdiche fell out of the 4th floor window. He was involved in a domestic abuse altercation with his father in law and both men provided different stories to what happened. He accepted payment in college and was dumb enough to leave the transactions on his cell phone. Then there is the pot thing. Also, he was never able to stay on the field due to numerous injuries. How's that sounding for a top 10 pick?

Alex Lewis served his time and he says he's grown up from the altercation. Did he? Nobody really knows until he lives his life some more. But the risk here is a 4th round pick with the potential to have a starting guard or possible swing/starting tackle. He gets in trouble you cut him and cost yourself some thousands of dollars instead of multiple millions.

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4 hours ago, JimmyBlack said:

Stanley will be the starting left tackle before 4-5 games due to the simple fact that Monroe can't stay on the field.

I think he'll be the starting LT before then as long as he stays healthy and shows well in pre season. I think Monroe is going to be cut.

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5 hours ago, Fastynart said:

I don't understand why they drafted Reynolds. He is not a wide receiver or a running back. To expect him to be able to compete with guys who are is ridiculous. Now, if they drafted him to fill a role such as Kordell Steward did for Pittsburgh, that would make some sense. Otherwise the Ravens are wasting their time and his. He is a gifted athlete who can do a lot of things. Wish him well.

They drafted him to fill the role Campanaro was supposed to fill. A poor man's Wes Welker. A pesky underneath slot receiver who can move the chains. He could be a return man, line up in the slot, might catch some passes out of the back field, maybe go in some wildcat formations, and just be used to create mismatches on the field. Why did they choose him? All he did in college was set the career TD mark in the FBS. Guy knows how to find the endzone. If he can do similar things in the NFL we struck gold. If he flames out, so what, he was a 6th round pick.

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Relax. I'm sure EVERY team is boasting about their draft picks....in MAY. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the early feedback from ALL the teams is how much their picks are going to contribute. Reality.........we hopefully come out with four PLAYERS. Everybody makes plays in shorts and a jersey.

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9 minutes ago, whobilly said:

Relax. I'm sure EVERY team is boasting about their draft picks....in MAY. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the early feedback from ALL the teams is how much their picks are going to contribute. Reality.........we hopefully come out with four PLAYERS. Everybody makes plays in shorts and a jersey.

I don't even get jazzed up by what I see in preseason football because teams are not running their full playbooks and the starters play sparingly. Unless some guy is just completely tearing it up every single day and is making plays that make you notice him all the time then I am not really getting all that excited. Heck, Matt Schaub looked pretty good in preseason last year and look what happened in the regular season.

I'm excited for the new Ravens and can't wait to see how they contribute but I am not delusional about it.

Yeah, Bronson Kaufusi looked really nasty going up against those blocking dummies. Way to hit that sled! Way to run five feet there. Whew, I tell you. He's gonna make everyone forget about J.J. Watt!

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