Starting middle LB next to CJ. Mosley...

[Ravensfan23]

1 minute ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Where did you see that? I originally saw something close to that but then found out that was from a year or 2 ago.

Pretty sure at this Pro Day they measured him at 6'1"+ and around 225lbs.

When I first looked him up I didn't see why the Ravens would look at him as an ILB, bc I saw the #'s you listed... but then did some digging and found the source I had was listing measurements from when he left Arizona... then found different #'s in between that were  from the Portland State Pro Day, but then saw that it was prior to his senior year as they let underclassmen and even former graduates participate if they want.

Then I finally found 6'1" 225lbs from this year. But, that could be wrong as well.

Originally I found his measurements on the Ravens site but those numbers aren't always official and then here at NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000651378/article/exusc-qb-max-max-wittek-could-be-camp-arm

Guess we'll just have to see him at camp. He's listed as a ILB so that's clearly the plan. The Ravens could get him to pack on some weight before now and camp to have a better shot at being a full time ILB. 

 

 

[sflegend89]

This is the last glaring hole we have on our roster. I think we did a solid job shoring up CB with Young and Powers, really did a great job reloading the DL in the draft.... but we need a proven ILB next to CJ, can't overstate how important that position is.

I'm just not a believer in Brown or Orr. Let's see how they do at OTA's, I have a little bit of faith in Brown, he's had some good flashes in the preseason. I just don't like they idea of relying on 2 guys that might end up being a liability at a very important position. Cap casualty or a trade makes the most sense, I really hope Orr/Brown won't be the starter week 1 unless they absolutely dazzle when team activities begin.

[Jacquouille]

14 hours ago, sflegend89 said:

This is the last glaring hole we have on our roster. I think we did a solid job shoring up CB with Young and Powers, really did a great job reloading the DL in the draft.... but we need a proven ILB next to CJ, can't overstate how important that position is.

I'm just not a believer in Brown or Orr. Let's see how they do at OTA's, I have a little bit of faith in Brown, he's had some good flashes in the preseason. I just don't like they idea of relying on 2 guys that might end up being a liability at a very important position. Cap casualty or a trade makes the most sense, I really hope Orr/Brown won't be the starter week 1 unless they absolutely dazzle when team activities begin.

I see SS as the other great need. I think we can fare without one this year but it will be absolutely necessary to adress it next offseason. 

I do trust Orr actually, he's played very well when his number was called. 

[ALPHA]

Hopefully Brown steps up, its unlikely at this point but the opportunity is going to be there.

[Jaybirds]

So just out of curiosity, I looked up Orr's rankings on PFF.   I'm a little surprised to see that coverage was his worst skill last year.  Could be a fluke or a small sample size.  But overall he wasn't awful at anything, just no skills that would stand out.  Overall he had a higher ranking than a number of starters (including Mosley).  Their rankings make it clear that it's his job to lose, but he still might not be what we want.  

[rmw10]

 

[ludy51]

7 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

Excited to see his preseason

[Tiznut]

As expected versatility is key with our front 7. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Correa starting at ILB indicates a few things... one, they are getting him looks in a 34(there's no ILB in a 43), also they are not afraid to see where he works best and are being smart to avoid misusing a player who has a lot of potential. In a 34 he may be a dangerous ILB, if that's where he gets His snaps I hope we get to see tons of blitzing, him and Mosley are both LETHAL blitz weapons, and as limited as Arthur brown is he may actually be the most dangerous blitzing ILB on the team but he can't make the field because that's all he can do. 

 

I am hoping that one of judon, kaufusi, or ochi fit the bill of a high end pass rusher because if correa plays as a more traditional LB he could be a stud but it is disappointing if he isn't edge rushing often.

[Jacquouille]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Correa starting at ILB indicates a few things... one, they are getting him looks in a 34(there's no ILB in a 43), also they are not afraid to see where he works best and are being smart to avoid misusing a player who has a lot of potential. In a 34 he may be a dangerous ILB, if that's where he gets His snaps I hope we get to see tons of blitzing, him and Mosley are both LETHAL blitz weapons, and as limited as Arthur brown is he may actually be the most dangerous blitzing ILB on the team but he can't make the field because that's all he can do. 

 

I am hoping that one of judon, kaufusi, or ochi fit the bill of a high end pass rusher because if correa plays as a more traditional LB he could be a stud but it is disappointing if he isn't edge rushing often.

Correct. But imo he will rush from the edge when needed! Firstly because even CJ rushed from the edge at times, and it's just what LBs do, change their roles depending on the situation. Secondly because we took the Irvin comparison, well Irvin litteraly had his hands in the dirt at times. Thirdly because Harbs isn't stupid and he knows Correa is a pass rusher first and foremost (for now at least).

Edited May 27, 2016 by Jacquouille

[KBoum]

So when the Ravens drafted him I said he could play some ILB and I got criticized. Wasn't that stupid eh?

 

I still think he could see some time in a Nickle LB, 4-3 SAM, 3-4 ILB ala Timmons

[CalvinSmoke]

Ready for this?... Ready for This?!..  The second starting linebacker will be... Matt "Cleats" Elam 

[Winchester]

19 hours ago, KBoum said:

So when the Ravens drafted him I said he could play some ILB and I got criticized. Wasn't that stupid eh?

 

I still think he could see some time in a Nickle LB, 4-3 SAM, 3-4 ILB ala Timmons

I agreed. He could play ilb but 43 olb is his best fit where he can run hit drop in zone and BLITZ. It looks as if ravens are going to slowly move to a 43 which the personnel hints. If ravens lose Williams the 4-3 will not call for a NT. Jernigan Henry and Davis could be an awesome 4-3 rotation if Davis catches on. Jernigan and Henry could be the best penetrating tandem in the league. Jernigan should be a step faster and more explosive. If he were to run the 40 he probably will run 4.9. And Will Henry is such a rare specimen!! It is very rare a player is that explosive and can bend and play with leverage in the same player with lb closing burst!! Most good penetrators are explosive and have better than average bend and some have great bend and leverage with pretty good explosion. Henry has great explosion,rare bend and leverage and heavy handed to boot. And has lb closing speed and can 2gap. With the oline stressing to contain jernigan and Henry, when Correa blitzes the oline will be vulnerable because of stressing over dline players like jernigan Henry Kufusi and Dumervil. You blitz Correa with his explosion and it is unfair olines. With Correas freakish burst the delayed blitz will be crippling to olines.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm not surprised Correa is taking snaps at ILB. I don't think it means he'll be our WLB but it's more of the obvious in that he is a versatile linebacker who will likely be used in many ways. I never liked him as a 4-3 end and I don't see his future there ever, but I think he can be really good rotating between 3-4 OLB & ILB, as well as 4-3 OLB. 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

I'm not surprised Correa is taking snaps at ILB. I don't think it means he'll be our WLB but it's more of the obvious in that he is a versatile linebacker who will likely be used in many ways. I never liked him as a 4-3 end and I don't see his future there ever, but I think he can be really good rotating between 3-4 OLB & ILB, as well as 4-3 OLB. 

Yep.  He's a versatile player and it's clear that's how they plan on using him.

He's not the only one, either.  It sounds like they've used a lot of guys in a lot of different spots in the first OTA week.

[GrimCoconut]

12 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Yep.  He's a versatile player and it's clear that's how they plan on using him.

He's not the only one, either.  It sounds like they've used a lot of guys in a lot of different spots in the first OTA week.

Yeah. One thing to also remember before anyone thinks they "called" his future NFL position is we did this before with Brent Urban, who was drafted as a DE and took some snaps as an OLB but has primarily played his original role in games as far as I recall. If he's played OLB in actual games it's very few and far between comparatively speaking. 

Right now, Reynolds could play QB bury I doubt that's where we want him. It's all about getting a feel for these guys for how they fit--especially the rookies. 

Edited May 28, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[Davesta]

I would of prefer someone like sua cravens as a inside / cover linebacker in today's NFL. But I guess if you're going for versatility, KC offers more. We'll see

[trevorsteadman]

Correa or Brown will be our starting inside linebacker. Both seemed to have their names mentioned during training camps. I love Orr though for his special teams play and him being a solid player if injury occurs. Plus if Mosley went out I would definitely want Orr to step in and keep Correa and Brown at weak side.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

20 hours ago, CalvinSmoke said:

Ready for this?... Ready for This?!..  The second starting linebacker will be... Matt "Cleats" Elam 

OUCH that hurts man....Will he be wearing his Footlocker uniform?

Edited May 29, 2016 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[Winchester]

Correa could be projected at ilb in 34 fronts and olb in 43 fronts. Until ravens eventually switch to the 43. Playing ilb will get him up to speed onnlb duties like reading and reacting, taking on and discarding blockers, navigating through trash and covering. So reading offenses from olb will be a breeze and it will help his instincts at olb. He will be better at sorting through trash,covering and he will know when to blitz and when to cover when he plays olb. If he can play well at ilb he will be a real A bomb at olb with his rush skills.

[K-Dog]

1 hour ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

OUCH that hurts man....Will he be wearing his Footlocker uniform?

That makes me think of an interesting question. 

I wonder if a pro in the NFL has ever refereed at any level after his NFL career.

[stampedehero]

This question is speculation but its interesting.  McClellen is a 5 year 254lb vet and Zack Orr is very close to same weight with two less years of experience.   Correa was drafted as an OLB but his name was mentioned in this topic by others for a 4-3 D.  Arthur Brown was always a mystery to me.  He seems invisible on the field and a berth for a starting roster.  McClellan would be my vote 

 

[harfordravenfan]

11 hours ago, K-Dog said:

That makes me think of an interesting question. 

I wonder if a pro in the NFL has ever refereed at any level after his NFL career.

Only one I saw (Phil mckinnley) retired 1984 and refereed in NFL Europe in 2002 but couldn't find anyone refereeing in America 

[ellicottraven]

17 hours ago, Winchester said:

Correa could be projected at ilb in 34 fronts and olb in 43 fronts. Until ravens eventually switch to the 43. Playing ilb will get him up to speed onnlb duties like reading and reacting, taking on and discarding blockers, navigating through trash and covering. So reading offenses from olb will be a breeze and it will help his instincts at olb. He will be better at sorting through trash,covering and he will know when to blitz and when to cover when he plays olb. If he can play well at ilb he will be a real A bomb at olb with his rush skills.

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[BallSoHard10]

I think it's going to be arthur brown, cause now i think he is ready to go, he gained some experience and has speed to cover. Maybe need to fix some tackle issues but that's just practice 

[trevorsteadman]

I'm pulling for Correa. If he is able to be a decent pass rusher at the ILB position and able to cover tight ends and running backs when called on he can be so versatile and that will create turnovers. His ceiling is so high. 

[ClintLB8]

Hey guys. You remember that time period where we had the GOAT and didn't have to worry about inside linebacker? Yeah, me too... :(

[ravefan52]

It'll be interesting to see how the defense covers TE's this year. Losing Hill is a huge blow there. Weddle will be more of a deep cover guy while Webb doesn't have the size or physicality. So it seems like it'll be the ILB's. Yet Mosley is terrible at it and they have what are largely unknown and not particularly encouraging options in Orr, Brown and possibly Correa. So yeah, it'll be interesting.

[trevorsteadman]

1 hour ago, ravefan52 said:

It'll be interesting to see how the defense covers TE's this year. Losing Hill is a huge blow there. Weddle will be more of a deep cover guy while Webb doesn't have the size or physicality. So it seems like it'll be the ILB's. Yet Mosley is terrible at it and they have what are largely unknown and not particularly encouraging options in Orr, Brown and possibly Correa. So yeah, it'll be interesting.

I know Mosley struggled a little last season and it isn't his strong suit at covering but I think he isn't as bad as what people say he is. I think the biggest reason he struggled was because teams knew Daryl Smith was aging and couldn't keep up with tight ends. Mosley seemed to get a little better at covering when we started sending Orr out on passing situations next to him over Smith because then teams have to respect that they don't know which one will be blitzing and which one will be in coverage. He still needs to work on that area but I think as long as we have a decent guy in coverage next to him it shouldn't be too big of an issue. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

5 hours ago, ravefan52 said:

It'll be interesting to see how the defense covers TE's this year. Losing Hill is a huge blow there. Weddle will be more of a deep cover guy while Webb doesn't have the size or physicality. So it seems like it'll be the ILB's. Yet Mosley is terrible at it and they have what are largely unknown and not particularly encouraging options in Orr, Brown and possibly Correa. So yeah, it'll be interesting.

I think thats why theyre trying to find more of a safety hybrid to drop down and play the run or cover TEs. Lewis, Brooks, Elam, Levine, possibly Weddle, Onwuasor could be an option for that.... and then of course theres the other LBs in Orr, Brown and McLellan. I think Mosley is fine at covering TEs on more of the crossing and underneath stuff. I think he struggles more on the deep and down the seam type stuff when he has to turn and run with a guy and make a play with his back to the QB.