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I'm in the home-stretch of my semester and don't have time to do research on everyone we've drafted (though I plan to do this later)

So what I am asking is for those who have actually scouted our draft class & UDFAs to give me your notes/observations on whichever players you've watched so that when I go back and watch them I know what to look for. 

I don't want this to devolve into a "we should have drafted x" thread; I just want this to be your own scouting notes on who we've drafted based on the film you've seen. Tell me what they do well, where they need to improve, other players they remind you of, scheme fit, floor/ceiling, etc. Yes, I could get scouting reports from other websites, but maybe some of you here have already watched some tape and formed your own opinions (and a lot of users here are very intelligent and I respect their opinions!)

For reference: 

1 6 Baltimore Ravens Ronnie Stanley  OT Notre Dame Ind. (FBS)  
  2 42 Baltimore Ravens Kamalei Correa  LB Boise State MW from Miami [R2 - 5]
  3 70 Baltimore Ravens Bronson Kaufusi  DE BYU Ind. (FBS)  
  4 104 Baltimore Ravens Tavon Young  CB Temple The American  
  4 107 Baltimore Ravens Chris Moore  WR Cincinnati The American from Miami [R4 - 4]
  4 130 Baltimore Ravens Alex Lewis  OT Nebraska Big Ten from Denver [R4 - 14]
  4* 132 Baltimore Ravens Willie Henry  DT Michigan Big Ten  
  4* 134 Baltimore Ravens Kenneth Dixon  RB Louisiana Tech C-USA  
  5 146 Baltimore Ravens Matt Judon  DE Grand Valley State GLIAC from Jacksonville [R5 - 5]
  6 182 Baltimore Ravens Keenan Reynolds  RB Navy The American  
  6* 209 Baltimore Ravens Maurice Canady  CB Virginia ACC

 

UDFAs

Anthony Fabiano OG Harvard
Victor Ochi DE Stony Brook
Will Lutz K Georgia State
Stephane Nembot OT Colorado
Michael Pierce DT Stanford
Cavellis Luckett LB Middle Tennessee St.
Jarell Broxton OG Baylor
Matt Skura C Duke
Patrick Onwuasor DB Portland State
Mario Ojemudia LB Michigan
OJ Mau DT Gardner-Webb
Robert Kitching III DL UMass (tryout)

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Here goes for those I have scouted, please keep in mind it is the thought of an amateur that has yet a lot to learn about football. 

Ronnie Stanley: A 

hated the pick at first, but the more I got to see from Ronnie, the more I liked him. He is smart, high charactered and tough. He will bring a lot to our offense. His tape shows a guy that lacks strength but who's a perfect fit for the ZBS. Also a guy who's always willing to help his teammates when he can. Like it or not, he was BPA.

 

Kamalei Correa: B 

I have yet to see Correa compete at a higher level, but I understand the pick. Don't expect the instant coffee, but he just landed in the perfect place to learn what he lacks. Solid pick, although I liked other options at this point.

Bronson Kaufusi: B+

Steal. Kaufusi was a dominant player and will be a starter for us very soon. He has the body of a 5-tech, but bends as well as any OLB in this draft. He has all the physical tools, and solid basics technically, which makes him very coachable. Taylor made for a Mcphee role, I expect 8/10 sacks in his second season.

 

Tavon Young: B 

As solid a pick as you could ask for, Young plays like a Raven despite his size. He will compete for a starting job as a nickel/slot very soon. Great value.

 

Kenneth Dixon: A 

BPA for this pick, we didn't need another RB but at this point, getting a 2nd rounder, potential 3downs RB that also happen to be a perfect fit is just a huge steal.

 

I didn't watch a lot from the others so I'll stop here.

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Ronnie Stanley:

A very sound LT that mirror's well and can handle quick edge rushers. Would be useful if he added some more muscle and played with more of a mean streak, but he was the most proready LT in the draft.

Correa:

He suffered from a defense that kept moving him around, but he's an explosive athlete that can cover a lot of ground in hurry. He's also a solid tackler, and plays hard on every snap. He has the potential to be an every down 3-4 OLB. He could also be a LB in the nickle package.

Bronson Kaufusi:

Incredible athlete that will likely play DE in the base 3-4 formation and DE in nickle. He's very coachable and could become a steal in this draft. The downside is that he does need to work on his leverage a bit and is older than most rookies (25). He'll compete with Urban to become the starting DE.

Tavon Young:

Very good playmaker only held back by his size, as he's only 5'9". He could become one of the better nicklebacks in the league, and will match up well with shorter, quicker WRs like Brown, Lockett, Corey Coleman (Brown's new guy), and Edelman. He could be a steal if he continues to play bigger than his size, but will come with some limitations. Definitely don't want to match him up with someone like AJ Green.

Chris Moore:

He's Torrey Smith. That's the best way to put it. Useful as a backup speedster to Wallace and Perriman.

Kenneth Dixon:

A solid athlete (not the best but good enough) who follows his blocks well and can read defenses pretty well. I guess you could compare him to Forsett, but he's has a higher ceiling.

Willie Henry:

High effort lineman that'll be a good rotational piece. Probably would have went higher if he wasn't in such a strong d-lineman class He comes with the bonus of being coached by a former Ravens' DC, Mattison, and then by Jim Harbaugh in his final year.

Don't really know much about the rest.

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Stanley is an A pick. My only concern with Stanley was the rumors regarding his passion and work ethic but he seems like a very high character kid and I feel good about it now. His talent was never a question and he and Tunsil was the highest rated LT prospect since tyronnasaurus and Trent Williams. BPA when considering character and durability. 

 

Correa gets a B as pick alone, he's an exceptional athlete with more explosiveness than any edge rusher in the class and he offers more versatility and a harder nose than a guy like Spence and ngakoue. He is raw but comes from a program with garbage coaching. He is undersized but he is 21 and being Polynesian and far from maxed you gotta think he can easily add 10 lbs in a NFL program without losing burst. The 2nd round in general for us id give it an A-, picking up a 4th and 5th and then nailing those rounds was brilliant, and avoiding injured players by getting caught up in the flashiness was also smart. It would have been an A+ if we executed a trade up which we tried to do. Sua cravens was the target and I am almost certain, that would have been a massive 2nd round for us but we did ok. 

Kaufusi gets a B, his game might struggle to translate to the NFL because he cant get low. If he is taking blockers head on he will struggle, but If scheme allows him to stay on the edge then he is a good fit with a high ceiling because he bends the edge very well for a man of his size and his length allows for plays to be made simply by getting close and reaching, qbs feel that presence. He could be a great 5t in the future.

 

I'll get more later when I can

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Okay, so here's my take. I want to preface the following by saying that the past year has been extremely busy for me due to work, so there's a lot of guys that I do not have any first hand knowledge of. I'm only going to express opinions on guys that I can back up my thoughts on.

1. Stanley was the boring pick, but the pick that is going to help us win many, many games in the future. He is also a great locker room guy. Anyone who gives that pick anything less than an A- is just flat out wrong.

2. Correa, I spent a lot of time singing his praises in his welcome thread. To recap, he's a prototypical Raven when you think of what it means to "Play like a Raven". Rough around the edges, but should still contribute from day one in a pass rushing role. After a full season of NFL coaching, he should really begin to flourish and develop into a terror as a three down player who can not just bring the heat as a pass rusher, but play good coverage as well. Somewhat limited defending the run, but not a liability either.

3. Tavon Young might be our nickel from day one. A high floor, low ceiling kind of guy. I don't like his prospects as a CB in the long term, his lack of size and speed will get exploited at this level, in my opinion. But, I think he is a good candidate to try out at safety because of the way he plays (very physical, especially for a guy his size, good ball skills and better suited for zone coverages to help make up for his physical limitations). I like his potential as a developmental safety, or as a long term nickel.

4. Kenneth Dixon not much to say about him that hasn't already been said. Absolute steal. Will contribute from day one and is our potential starter when we move on from Forsett

5. Matt Judon's durability is concerning to me. Powerful, very productive, very raw. He's a project, but could pay off big time.

6. Maurice Canady honestly, I just don't get this pick. This is the only pick we made that made me smh. All you need to know is his infamous 10 TDs 3 INT over the last two years. And he is as soft as a baby's bottom. Straight to practice squad for this guy

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4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Stanley is an A pick. My only concern with Stanley was the rumors regarding his passion and work ethic but he seems like a very high character kid and I feel good about it now. His talent was never a question and he and Tunsil was the highest rated LT prospect since tyronnasaurus and Trent Williams. BPA when considering character and durability. 

 

Correa gets a B as pick alone, he's an exceptional athlete with more explosiveness than any edge rusher in the class and he offers more versatility and a harder nose than a guy like Spence and ngakoue. He is raw but comes from a program with garbage coaching. He is undersized but he is 21 and being Polynesian and far from maxed you gotta think he can easily add 10 lbs in a NFL program without losing burst. The 2nd round in general for us id give it an A-, picking up a 4th and 5th and then nailing those rounds was brilliant, and avoiding injured players by getting caught up in the flashiness was also smart. It would have been an A+ if we executed a trade up which we tried to do. Sua cravens was the target and I am almost certain, that would have been a massive 2nd round for us but we did ok. 

Kaufusi gets a B, his game might struggle to translate to the NFL because he cant get low. If he is taking blockers head on he will struggle, but If scheme allows him to stay on the edge then he is a good fit with a high ceiling because he bends the edge very well for a man of his size and his length allows for plays to be made simply by getting close and reaching, qbs feel that presence. He could be a great 5t in the future.

 

I'll get more later when I can

Another guy who didn't get low and played high at times is JJ Watt. I love the relentless motor Bronson displays. He has a JJ Watt type of motor. Not sure he becomes close to the same player, but I think Bronson would best fit in a role similar to Watt as a DE in the 3-4 & 4-3. I think he would do best going against the RT or LT using his size against them. 

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Just to add a little on Correa as I don't think it has been mentioned. When watching him he really does play with a chip/looks like he is a trash talker in your face kinda guy on the field. Quickly watch the BYU tape and after nearly every play he is chirping in the face of OL, TEs, RBs, etc. and after a play is made he is always there to 'celebrate/congratulate'...While this may be small it is amazing what players with attitude and camaraderie on the field bring to the vibe and playing style of a team and defence. When Suggs was out we really missed that trash talking, dancing after sacks, jumping on teammates after big plays type attitude. We lost a lot of that with Ray and Ed. I do think he will add some of that swagger attitude which has not been as prevalent in recent defensive leaders (ala Mosley, Jimmy Smith, doom). As much as I get annoyed at guys like Joey Porter, James Harrison, Dez Bryant, and so on...you need these guys on the field to set that tempo--I think its safe to say we lost some of that last year...I also think it is safe to say we have enough personalities next year to bring it back with guys like Suggs, Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan and add Correa

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I see 6 eventual starters, Stanley, Kaufusi, Young, Lewis, Henry and Dixon.  I think Correa could struggle trying to translate his game, Young's role is probably a returner or deep threat decoy, Judon never makes the field and Reynolds, Canaday to the practice squad.

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4 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Another guy who didn't get low and played high at times is JJ Watt. I love the relentless motor Bronson displays. He has a JJ Watt type of motor. Not sure he becomes close to the same player, but I think Bronson would best fit in a role similar to Watt as a DE in the 3-4 & 4-3. I think he would do best going against the RT or LT using his size against them. 

100% agree. I also read scouting report saying his pad level was good, so I'm not sure it is even a concern. Bronson is as versatile as it gets and he bends the edge so well, I'm confident he'll have a major impact given time. I think he will be a better McPhee.

 

4 hours ago, Dubs said:

Just to add a little on Correa as I don't think it has been mentioned. When watching him he really does play with a chip/looks like he is a trash talker in your face kinda guy on the field. Quickly watch the BYU tape and after nearly every play he is chirping in the face of OL, TEs, RBs, etc. and after a play is made he is always there to 'celebrate/congratulate'...While this may be small it is amazing what players with attitude and camaraderie on the field bring to the vibe and playing style of a team and defence. When Suggs was out we really missed that trash talking, dancing after sacks, jumping on teammates after big plays type attitude. We lost a lot of that with Ray and Ed. I do think he will add some of that swagger attitude which has not been as prevalent in recent defensive leaders (ala Mosley, Jimmy Smith, doom). As much as I get annoyed at guys like Joey Porter, James Harrison, Dez Bryant, and so on...you need these guys on the field to set that tempo--I think its safe to say we lost some of that last year...I also think it is safe to say we have enough personalities next year to bring it back with guys like Suggs, Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan and add Correa

I like what you said and that's something I also noticed, when we took Correa instead of Spence or Stanley instead of Tunsil. Ozzie didn't simply back off from guys with off field issues, he went for the high charactered guys, and that's a great idea. It's something we really lacked this year, and this class brings guys that are agressive af, Correa being the leader. Seriously, he plays with such intensity, I'm drooling when thinking of him sacking Big Ben, because his tackles are punishing. Same goes for Kaufusi, when he gets up and shout after any sack, imagine a 6'7" guy celebrating like that, I'm pumped up.

When it's all said and done we'll look back at this draft and see a lot of cornerstone for our team, I'm sure of that.

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7 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Another guy who didn't get low and played high at times is JJ Watt. I love the relentless motor Bronson displays. He has a JJ Watt type of motor. Not sure he becomes close to the same player, but I think Bronson would best fit in a role similar to Watt as a DE in the 3-4 & 4-3. I think he would do best going against the RT or LT using his size against them. 

Yeah I'm coming around of kaufusi, a big part of my analysis on him was that he bends very well, idk if you caught that or not. I was kinda pigeonholing him as a 34DE because of his build, but game tape really shows a legit edge rusher. He gets off quick and gives a violent punch to the shoulder and gets the tackle off of his base and He has an awesome underhook to just rotate the tackle into the pocket. I don't think he does much on the interior but we could have a really good edge rusher with freakish physical traits right here. Not to mention his incredible motor and "authority" play style, he's a bully.

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29 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Yeah I'm coming around of kaufusi, a big part of my analysis on him was that he bends very well, idk if you caught that or not. I was kinda pigeonholing him as a 34DE because of his build, but game tape really shows a legit edge rusher. He gets off quick and gives a violent punch to the shoulder and gets the tackle off of his base and He has an awesome underhook to just rotate the tackle into the pocket. I don't think he does much on the interior but we could have a really good edge rusher with freakish physical traits right here. Not to mention his incredible motor and "authority" play style, he's a bully.

I think he can be as good as Ezekiel Ansah, he isn't a true bend the edge guy either almost all his sack production is from inside moves and hand fighting. 

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3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Yeah I'm coming around of kaufusi, a big part of my analysis on him was that he bends very well, idk if you caught that or not. I was kinda pigeonholing him as a 34DE because of his build, but game tape really shows a legit edge rusher. He gets off quick and gives a violent punch to the shoulder and gets the tackle off of his base and He has an awesome underhook to just rotate the tackle into the pocket. I don't think he does much on the interior but we could have a really good edge rusher with freakish physical traits right here. Not to mention his incredible motor and "authority" play style, he's a bully.

Keys for me is there supporting cast. Intergrated into the schemes that Pee's will employ will create chaos. Put two push monsters in the middle and they slide through the gap/creases and around the ends. Hybrid players are being infused. Once the Ravens use cap space from the future cuts and apply the money to the post june cuts acquired. I see the Ravens as truly much improved team. They are not done.

 

Chris Moore will be our AB watch.

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3 hours ago, ALPHA said:

I think he can be as good as Ezekiel Ansah, he isn't a true bend the edge guy either almost all his sack production is from inside moves and hand fighting. 

He has a lot of sacks bending the edge but he doesn't do it with speed. There's many ways to bend. He has a lot of sacks that come from his underhook which I think is his best move, the second that tackle let's bronsons inside arm free he hooks under and pivots the tackle. He makes his own corner to turn instead of beating the tackle to the edge basically.

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15 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

He has a lot of sacks bending the edge but he doesn't do it with speed. There's many ways to bend. He has a lot of sacks that come from his underhook which I think is his best move, the second that tackle let's bronsons inside arm free he hooks under and pivots the tackle. He makes his own corner to turn instead of beating the tackle to the edge basically.

I meant Ansah, thats who I think he should model his game based on his skillset. He ran a 2.87 at 285lb so he could go up or down 20 depending on where we intend to play him.

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Only guy I truly like is Bronson Kafusi. Watching him work with the DE's during the run up to the draft. I just enjoyed watching him get after it. I think he will be special. No offense but I think this will be 2012 all over again. We will look up and four years none of these guys will be here.

 

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i love the depth of picks we got and could write paragraphs about each other, but Willie Henry I think if utilized properly in certain nickel packages, he could be as good, if not better than Jernigan at getting to the QB. He has a great burst, quick hands, and can bend well to get through his gaps in a hurry. I'll state this again, I predict he'll have 5.5 sacks this year as a rotational guy. 

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Immediately after the draft I gave it a D.

 

After I looked into everyone we picked I give it an A.

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In other words, you've been initially talking out of your butt, without really knowing anything about the prospects?

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Thanks everyone who posted. I can't wait to read up on some scouting reports while watching some draft vids next week when I'll have free time 

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I just watched some Willie Henry, tape, man is he impressive. I don't know where we would line him up, but sometimes he makes jaw-dropping plays, he can penetrate so easily at times.

I don't know what the Gators OL is worth, but he destroyed it.

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4 hours ago, Maryland said:

Thanks everyone who posted. I can't wait to read up on some scouting reports while watching some draft vids next week when I'll have free time 

Ignore what everyone says about correa before you watch him. See for yourself, then come back and tell people that they're flat out wrong. Everyone is so bitter that we passed on Spence and Jack that they hate Correa and won't even bother to study him and just talk out of their rear ends about him. 

 

Small piece of advice lol

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2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Ignore what everyone says about correa before you watch him. See for yourself, then come back and tell people that they're flat out wrong. Everyone is so bitter that we passed on Spence and Jack that they hate Correa and won't even bother to study him and just talk out of their rear ends about him. 

 

Small piece of advice lol

But we wanted a playmaker, a pass-rusher, and a LB who could cover TEs.   OF COURSE we were going to be angry when all that was the same guy. 

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3 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

But we wanted a playmaker, a pass-rusher, and a LB who could cover TEs.   OF COURSE we were going to be angry when all that was the same guy. 

I'm not sure if he can cover TEs but that's exactly my thoughts when I see everyone complain about Correa. He's gonna end up a fan favorite and everyone will be acting like they never doubted him

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2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm not sure if he can cover TEs but that's exactly my thoughts when I see everyone complain about Correa. He's gonna end up a fan favorite and everyone will be acting like they never doubted him

His cover skills still have room for improvement.  We still could have used Cravens, for example.  But he played cornerback on some snaps.  He has experience lining up against receivers, and I think his size will match up well against TEs.  So I'm taking a risk with that statement, but overall I think he is a notch or two above what we had last year. 

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I have never been bitter about Correa. He is the most agressive player in the entire draft and that alone is a boost for the team. I'm just not expecting much from his first year, but I gladly entrust our pass rush's future to him. His first step and explosiveness are off the charts.

Basically all of our picks are underestimated.

Moore is as reliable a target as you could ask for, and once he learns route running watch out.

Henry is a monster and him+Jernigan in a 4man front will be unfair.

Dixon may be the next Ray Rice. 

Kaufusi will go to the Pro Bowl.

 

That's how hyped I am right now. 

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I have never been bitter about Correa. He is the most agressive player in the entire draft and that alone is a boost for the team. I'm just not expecting much from his first year, but I gladly entrust our pass rush's future to him. His first step and explosiveness are off the charts.

Basically all of our picks are underestimated.

Moore is as reliable a target as you could ask for, and once he learns route running watch out.

Henry is a monster and him+Jernigan in a 4man front will be unfair.

Dixon may be the next Ray Rice. 

Kaufusi will go to the Pro Bowl.

 

That's how hyped I am right now. 

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It's weird:  one of the things I keep hearing out of Cincinnati is that Moore actually runs routes well.  Maybe he needs to add a few more to his repertoire?  Not sure how the mixed signals are happening. 

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1 hour ago, Jaybirds said:

It's weird:  one of the things I keep hearing out of Cincinnati is that Moore actually runs routes well.  Maybe he needs to add a few more to his repertoire?  Not sure how the mixed signals are happening. 

Very surprised to hear that. His tape is pretty obvious, he doesn't even try to sell it, the only route I've seen him run was a post and he had the DB on him all along. He was still able to make the contested catch which makes me feel optimistic. 

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9 hours ago, Jaybirds said:

His cover skills still have room for improvement.  We still could have used Cravens, for example.  But he played cornerback on some snaps.  He has experience lining up against receivers, and I think his size will match up well against TEs.  So I'm taking a risk with that statement, but overall I think he is a notch or two above what we had last year. 

I've been a fan of Correa throughout but I don't see him as much of an off ball LB specializing in covering tight ends. I don't think that's his game at all. Or spence for that matter. I don't think you should or we are looking for thst with this player. 

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