Rookies with the best chance to make the active 53

[JoeyFlex5]

Obviously our first 3 picks are almost certain to play in all 16 games as rookies, I think stanley and kaufusi are starters for most of the season and correa is an integral rotation guy. 

 

But for the 4th and beyond, who are your guys? Reynolds is a wild card because of the navy so I'll leave him out. So my guys are... 

Tavon young, Kenneth dixon, chris moore, Alex lewis, and I think only one of ochi, henry, and judon see the active roster often.

 

Young is a quality nickel corner with awesome ball skills, he could be a real upgrade over Arrington who has struggled.

Kenneth dixon has potential to be our starting rb for the foreseeable future and is more talented imo than any rb on the roster. 

Chris moore is a flacco style receiver. He goes up and gets it. And with sss recovering and Marlon Brown being an inevitable cut, I think he finds a niche. 

We like swing guys and depth on the line, we will want him prepared and we will likely get rid of hurst, even if he doesn't see the field I think he suits up often. 

Meanwhile Willie henry could get caught in a logjam, and between judon and ochi they are small school guys with a big leap to make, if doom and suggs are healthy then one of them are stuck behind a logjam as well. 

 

 

[lgcs27288]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Reynolds is a wild card because of the navy so I'll leave him out

 

I think Reynolds is one Campanaro injury away from being on the roster, and let's face it, that's pretty likely.

[Cville-Raven]

Probably all of our fourths make it and Judon makes it. I think Reynolds has a better chance than most would assume given how often Camp likes to get injured. I think he's a lock for the practice squad if he doesn't make the final 53; I get the feeling the coaches really like him. Stanley is probably the only full time starter at the beginning of the season unless Dixon takes the number one back role from Forsett. Other guys will work themselves into more playing time as the season goes on.  I could see Correa taking snaps from Suggs at his age and coming off a severe injury. Also, if Arrington doesn't step up his game Young could kick him off the roster. 

[K-Dog]

I think of the fourth round guys Tayvon Young has the best opportunity to start. I am basing that more on current roster weaknesses as opposed to his strengths. 
We have excessive depth at RB so I am not sure where Dixon falls on that list.  It would not surprise me to see him fall to PS, but he could just as easily be active roster, but I don't see him taking the start from Forsette.

[beanfigger]

I think all the fourths have a really good chance. Moore and Lewis are candidates for weekly healthy inactives, in my eyes, until injury/performance forces an opening.

Reynolds is hard to figure. He has a shot at becoming our kick returner if he proves valuable enough on special teams in general.

Judon and Ochi will be in a battle for an active/inactive spot near the bottom of the 53 until inevitable (hopefully short-term) injuries give them a chance to rotate in.

Canady is likely looking for a PS spot, at best, along with the vast majority of the UDFAs.

[beanfigger]

6 minutes ago, K-Dog said:

I think of the fourth round guys Tayvon Young has the best opportunity to start. I am basing that more on current roster weaknesses as opposed to his strengths. 
We have excessive depth at RB so I am not sure where Dixon falls on that list.  It would not surprise me to see him fall to PS, but he could just as easily be active roster, but I don't see him taking the start from Forsette.

I know I knock people all the time for saying this about players because it isn't common for most rookie draftees to get scooped up after release before we can sign the on the PS, but there is no way Dixon would make it to the PS if he gets cut. He'd be on another roster somewhere for sure.

[K-Dog]

Just now, beanfigger said:

I know I knock people all the time for saying this about players because it isn't common for most rookie draftees to get scooped up after release before we can sign the on the PS, but there is no way Dixon would make it to the PS if he gets cut. He'd be on another roster somewhere for sure.

Yeah I typed it and THEN thought about it.

[JoeyFlex5]

10 minutes ago, K-Dog said:

I think of the fourth round guys Tayvon Young has the best opportunity to start. I am basing that more on current roster weaknesses as opposed to his strengths. 
We have excessive depth at RB so I am not sure where Dixon falls on that list.  It would not surprise me to see him fall to PS, but he could just as easily be active roster, but I don't see him taking the start from Forsette.

Have you watched Dixon's film? He's not your typical late round rb who struggles to make the team. He could very well be the most talented rb on the ravens already.

[allblackraven]

Obvious: Stanley, Kaufusi, Correa, Dixon

Likely: Young, Henry

Chance: Moore, Lewis, Judon

Long shot: Canady

Question mark: Reynolds - this is just due to service commitment but if Campanaro can't complete the training camp without injuries, I think he's in trouble

Ochi will battle it hard for the spot. Depending on Suggs situation (I am not very optimistic about Sizzle), he may get the opportunity early

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

Have you watched Dixon's film? He's not your typical late round rb who struggles to make the team. He could very well be the most talented rb on the ravens already.

Him and Allen will probably be the 1 and 2. We may end up cutting Forsett for small pocket change. Richardson has talent but a lot to prove. West needs to have a great training camp. I think Taliaferro goes to another team.

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

Obvious: Stanley, Kaufusi, Correa, Dixon

Likely: Young, Henry

Chance: Moore, Lewis, Judon

Long shot: Canady

Question mark: Reynolds - this is just due to service commitment but if Campanaro can't complete the training camp without injuries, I think he's in trouble

Ochi will battle it hard for the spot. Depending on Suggs situation (I am not very optimistic about Sizzle), he may get the opportunity early

I agree and I am waiting for one of these undrafted offensive linemen to make it onto the roster to compete. They may push us to trading Monroe. We went pass rusher crazy and I think this helps us. If 2 or 3 of these guys churn out there rookie year just think of us finally not having to lean heavily on Suggs and Dumervil to get a pass rush. If that happened we could keep Suggs and Dumervil healthy later on when needed more. I also like the picks that make us faster on defense so we stop having these 2 yard gains turn into 30 yard gains.

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, trevorsteadman said:

Him and Allen will probably be the 1 and 2. We may end up cutting Forsett for small pocket change. Richardson has talent but a lot to prove. West needs to have a great training camp. I think Taliaferro goes to another team.

Forsett isn't getting cut.

[allblackraven]

2 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I agree and I am waiting for one of these undrafted offensive linemen to make it onto the roster to compete. They may push us to trading Monroe. We went pass rusher crazy and I think this helps us. If 2 or 3 of these guys churn out there rookie year just think of us finally not having to lean heavily on Suggs and Dumervil to get a pass rush. If that happened we could keep Suggs and Dumervil healthy later on when needed more. I also like the picks that make us faster on defense so we stop having these 2 yard gains turn into 30 yard gains.

I am really rooting for both Judon and Ochi to pan out. As you said, that would be huge help with keeping old people fresh but also the fastest way of replacing both, which is going to happen very soon, regardless.

[trevorsteadman]

8 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Forsett isn't getting cut.

I like Forsett but I don't see him being a starter. If Allen and Dixson both surpass him then in training camps Forsett will be competing against Richardson and West. Stranger things have happened. 

[rmw10]

None of the guys up through round 4 should even be questioned unless they come in and are just flat awful.  I highly doubt we're using a 4th round pick on a guy we don't anticipate being a part of the roster.  Even in the 5th, I'd be very surprised if Judon doesn't make it on raw ability alone.  In the 6th is when it starts to get questionable for me.  Reynolds is new to the position and in a very crowded group.  Canady has an advantage in that he's a healthy CB, but there are a ton of questions on his ability.

Stanley, Correa, Kaufusi, Young, Moore, Lewis, Henry, Dixon, and Judon are all locks to me.  Sure, not all of them will be active on gamedays, but the only way they aren't on the 53 is if they get hurt or get suspended.

Edited May 2, 2016 by rmw10

[JimmyBlack]

47 minutes ago, lgcs27288 said:

I think Reynolds is one Campanaro injury away from being on the roster, and let's face it, that's pretty likely.

Reynolds only needs to catch a short pass and he will be a terror to the opponents' secondary.  Watch some Navy tape from the past 3 seasons and you will see a redzone and 3rd down threat.

[JimmyBlack]

2 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I like Forsett but I don't see him being a starter. If Allen and Dixson both surpass him then in training camps Forsett will be competing against Richardson and West. Stranger things have happened. 

Dixon has great hands and can really turn it on once he gets past the line of scrimmage.  He and Reynolds lead the NCAA in TDs.

[trevorsteadman]

I'll ask a question here on this board that I asked in the draft forum. But if Keenan Reynolds does intend to serve for two years in the Navy does that put him on an non-football activity list or something that won't affect the 53? I am foreign to these kinds of situations and what will go on with him.

[JimmyBlack]

33 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

Probably all of our fourths make it and Judon makes it. I think Reynolds has a better chance than most would assume given how often Camp likes to get injured. I think he's a lock for the practice squad if he doesn't make the final 53; I get the feeling the coaches really like him. Stanley is probably the only full time starter at the beginning of the season unless Dixon takes the number one back role from Forsett. Other guys will work themselves into more playing time as the season goes on.  I could see Correa taking snaps from Suggs at his age and coming off a severe injury. Also, if Arrington doesn't step up his game Young could kick him off the roster. 

After doing research, I think that most of the picks are pretty good.  The Ravens are methodical in their selection process and moral character was high on their list ever since the Ray Rice incident.

[rmw10]

Just now, trevorsteadman said:

I'll ask a question here on this board that I asked in the draft forum. But if Keenan Reynolds does intend to serve for two years in the Navy does that put him on an non-football activity list or something that won't affect the 53? I am foreign to these kinds of situations and what will go on with him.

Yeah I have no idea what the list is called, but he gets shelved from the 53 essentially, with the team retaining his rights until he's eligible to play.

[Jaybirds]

Every time I heard someone from our front office say "chance to compete" I thinking "replace a guy we're done with".    I think guys like Byrd, Asa, Campanaro, Taliaferro, Hurst, Arrington, and probably Guy and/or Urban are on the bubble.  We needed them to step up last year.  They didn't.  So even if everyone comes back healthy (won't happen) I still think most of these guys make the roster. 

I think Dixon is already our #2 back, and Young our nickel.  I'm guessing Henry replaces Canty, partly because Williams is in the last year of his contract.  But it could be another person as well.  Correa is Upshaw's replacement.  And of course Stanley makes it. 

I think Lewis, Canady, and Moore have the most work to do.  But injuries probably speed up their progression a lot. 

I really don't know where Kaufusi fits in, just that he does.   Same with Judon. 

Navy cadets usually have a five year commitment after graduating.  As a taxpayer, I'm going to feel ripped off if we see Reynolds this year. 


 

Edited May 2, 2016 by Jaybirds

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, rmw10 said:

Yeah I have no idea what the list is called, but he gets shelved from the 53 essentially, with the team retaining his rights until he's eligible to play.

Alright so then we shouldn't even question him making it because we can shelve him away and won't have to worry about another team snagging him. I think that means they are giving Campanaro two more seasons to see what he can do and then they will see what Keenan can do. I am excited to see what he can do down the road for us.

[beanfigger]

Just now, trevorsteadman said:

Alright so then we shouldn't even question him making it because we can shelve him away and won't have to worry about another team snagging him. I think that means they are giving Campanaro two more seasons to see what he can do and then they will see what Keenan can do. I am excited to see what he can do down the road for us.

There's a player on NE (long snapper) that is serving his two years AND playing at the same time. He has to drive to his station after practice everyday to make it work. Reynolds will likely hope for the same opportunity and to be stationed somewhere near Baltimore (lot of options there).

[beanfigger]

8 minutes ago, JimmyBlack said:

Reynolds only needs to catch a short pass and he will be a terror to the opponents' secondary.  Watch some Navy tape from the past 3 seasons and you will see a redzone and 3rd down threat.

I'm so glad we drafted him and didn't give NE a chance to sign him later and give strokes to all their opponents' defensive coordinators for years.

[trevorsteadman]

2 minutes ago, beanfigger said:

There's a player on NE (long snapper) that is serving his two years AND playing at the same time. He has to drive to his station after practice everyday to make it work. Reynolds will likely hope for the same opportunity and to be stationed somewhere near Baltimore (lot of options there).

If he is able to serve and play at the same time that would be insane. I love his upside he is a huge playmaker. He may be our version of Edelman. I hate player comparisons but think of the quick screens we can throw. And if a team bites on a screen we can have the former quarterback throw it deep to Wallace or Perriman that would be wide open. Sanu and Edelman bite people on those types of plays several times a season.

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, beanfigger said:

I'm so glad we drafted him and didn't give NE a chance to sign him later and give strokes to all their opponents' defensive coordinators for years.

I'm actually high on this kid right now i don't remember being so excited for a wide receiver to play in a Ravens jersey. If Perriman comes in and starts in training camp like he did last season before he went down... We will have a bunch of good receivers. And we need it with Steve Smith's final ride. 

[rmw10]

There have only been three 4th rounders that didn't make the opening day roster or an injury list in their rookie years in the last 3 years.

1.  Josh Boyce (2013) - He's the case of him just being very bad
2.  Chris Harper (2013) - Unsuccessful conversion to H-Back/TE
3.  Vince Mayle (2015) - Browns gonna Brown.  Never should have been picked in the 4th in the first place.

Edited May 2, 2016 by rmw10

[Jaybirds]

Just now, rmw10 said:

There have only been three 4th rounders that didn't make the opening day roster or an injury list in their rookie years.

1.  Josh Boyce (2013) - He's the case of him just being very bad
2.  Chris Harper (2013) - Unsuccessful conversion to H-Back/TE
3.  Vince Mayle (2015) - Browns gonna Brown.  Never should have been picked in the 4th in the first place.

Good data, thanks for looking it up. 

This year could be a bit different because there's five of them.  But yeah, I'd say we're on the right track that most of them will be around. 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, Jaybirds said:

Good data, thanks for looking it up. 

This year could be a bit different because there's five of them.  But yeah, I'd say we're on the right track that most of them will be around. 

Made note that it was in the last 3 years.  Didn't want to go back any further.  Regardless, it's a very slim chance that a 4th rounder doesn't stick around at least through a few weeks.

All of them are WRs so that doesn't bode well for Chris Moore, but I highly doubt he has anything to worry about unless he just isn't good.

[beanfigger]

4 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

Good data, thanks for looking it up. 

This year could be a bit different because there's five of them.  But yeah, I'd say we're on the right track that most of them will be around. 

Just pointing out that his data is for all teams, not just ours, so there are 32+ every season, and only three the past three years failed to make their teams' respective rosters.