[News] Eisenberg: Grading The Draft A Complicated Exercise

[BR News]

By the end of a draft that included some would haves and could haves, the Ravens added an interesting haul of prospects.

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[surfdude]

I give this draft a solid A. Even the guys they picked up after the draft an A as well. All the guys have great character and all play with a chip. I love that about all the guys they drafted. The steal of the draft IMO was Dixon & Judon. Great job !

[cbrook1862]

I think the only player they may regret passing on is Myles Jack but like it said in the article I could see why they passed on him, his knee seems very unpredictable and may affect him down the road. I give them an A-

[blackandpurple20]

The draft was solid but I don't know how long it's going to take us to realize we haven't been good at finding CB talent late in the draft. Should have used the 3rd rounder on Fuller, and Kaufusi could have still been there in the 4th

[balfan23]

For this title, I really think we can replace the word "complicated" with "pointless". Everyone knows that the draft can only be analyzed in 2 to 3 years after it is over and not 2 to 3 days. But in the end, we can't help ourselves.

[JimmyBlack]

I just hope that we keep the starters healthy going into the soft part of the schedule at the beginning of the season.  It's a long haul over 16 games and we need quality depth to break .500.

Edited May 1, 2016 by JimmyBlack

[megalomarc]

A third rounder for Jalen Ramsey, means we would not have Ronnie Stanley and Kaufusi Bronson. That would have been a sound move. It almost happened. But we can't be unhappy with Stanley.

[Fastynart]

A much better football team? Baloney. Instead of pulling the trigger and getting Ramsey (so what if we had to give up a third round pick), the guy that we wanted, we fall short. Ok, Stanley was a good choice, but little else in this draft was. More mediocre linebackers like the ones we already have. The only intriguing pick was the Navy guy. Two wide receivers??? Again? Ridiculous. More wasted picks.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

This is good news but in all honesty as Raven fans we are just going to have to wait and see. Some guys are going to fight and develop and others just are not just a fact for every NFL team.

[JimmyBlack]

I see why we took Stanley over Tunsil.  Ever since the mock drafts started to come out, I was comfortable with letting someone else pick both Tunsil and Ramsey, so it wasn't a shock when Ramsey went ahead of our pick.  I'm glad that we didn't trade down and don't think that trading up would be the be-all, end-all answer to our needs.  Yes, we did need CB help and didn't address it in the draft.  I seriously doubt that the kid from Temple will make an impact due to his size and lack of experience.  More than likely, he might make the team as a ST player or end up on the PS.  Ozzie isn't done scouting out other teams' June releases for that cap casualty player that could make our roster, too.  Overall, I would give this draft an A- or B+.  We upgraded the OL and defense.

[EA!EA! WHOO!]

There is certainly NOTHING sexy about this draft, but it's understandable why it went this way. The Ravens are old and the Ravens have had issues since the superbowl, Ray Rice Scandal, PED suspensions, animal cruelty arrests, crazy injuries and just players straight up not playing to potential. I think the FO just wants to get thru a year with NO DRAMA! There were at least a few years where all we had to worry about was winning games and the picks made are reflective of that; trying to do their best to pick guys with no drama, no weird injury history and who just want to play.

At the end of the day, everybody on this team just needs to come into 2016 and BALL OUT, if the players we have execute and stay healthy, it really can be that simple. There is a ton of talent on this team that's underacheiving and that's also been hurt. If we can get the injury gods on our side again and the young players do what they need to, it really won't matter who we didn't draft.

We should never have been this high in the draft anyway

[The Beak]

A much better football team? Baloney. Instead of pulling the trigger and getting Ramsey (so what if we had to give up a third round pick), the guy that we wanted, we fall short. Ok, Stanley was a good choice, but little else in this draft was. More mediocre linebackers like the ones we already have. The only intriguing pick was the Navy guy. Two wide receivers??? Again? Ridiculous. More wasted picks.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but until we see these guys on the field your "more wasted picks" is simply idiotic. Ramsey was not a proven commodity, so most would say he is a better safety than corner, Stanley and Kaufusi Bronson could prove to be exactly what we need. Oh and by the way J Ramsey had all of 3 ints during his career, so not exactly a ball hawk, great potential yes but a first year starter not so sure about that.

[Run Pass Pass Punt]

When was the last time a late round CB has worked out for us?

[ravens4life86]

I personally love the draft "On Paper" because it looks like they addressed every need and "Playmakers" need..
But If this draft fails in 3 years.. Im in the group of Fans who are in the "Harbaugh PowerTrip has ruined this franchise" because ever since hes been in power as head coach..we dont take Alpha males who might challenge him.. who might be the next Ray lewis,Ed Reed.. we take "Good little soldier/Character guys with lower ceilings like Elam, etc..
Thats HARBAUGH..

Ozzie picked HOFrs before Harbaugh showed up..he didnt forget how to draft.. Harbaughs power trip ruined our player selection proccess...
Instead of taking a Ray Lewis,Ed Reed..the Ravens woukd now rather take a "YES MAN" Bum player

[cbrook1862]

News coming out that Myles Jack won't need surgery on his knee. I really hope this doesn't come back to bite us. Good news is that the Ravens received really good draft drades

ESPN (Insider): A
Rotoworld: A
Sporting News: A
Bleacher Report: A
Sports Illustrated: B+
USA Today: B+
Pro Football Focus: B+
SBNation: B+
CBS Sports: B+
New York Daily News: B+
Washington Post: B

[ellicottraven]

When was the last time a late round CB has worked out for us?

Hmm... let's see. I can only think about the adage in our draft room and apply it to this situation with a small twist. "Past performance of late round CBs in an indicator of future performance of late round CBs"
So one time would be the answer - Lardarius Webb.

[whobilly]

Time will tell on this draft class but a good way to predict the future is look at the past. The last 10 years have been mediocre at best if you just want the truth.
Not many impact players drafted.

[ellicottraven]

By the way, I expect Jack to become a star, but I also expect Correa to become a star. So, if I got Judon (who may be our next small college star) on top of Correa I think we did fine passing on Jack.

[whobilly]

I see why we took Stanley over Tunsil.  Ever since the mock drafts started to come out, I was comfortable with letting someone else pick both Tunsil and Ramsey, so it wasn't a shock when Ramsey went ahead of our pick.  I'm glad that we didn't trade down and don't think that trading up would be the be-all, end-all answer to our needs.  Yes, we did need CB help and didn't address it in the draft.  I seriously doubt that the kid from Temple will make an impact due to his size and lack of experience.  More than likely, he might make the team as a ST player or end up on the PS.  Ozzie isn't done scouting out other teams' June releases for that cap casualty player that could make our roster, too.  Overall, I would give this draft an A- or B+.  We upgraded the OL and defense.

The only way to grade this class will be in 2019/2020. So many pundits have always given the Ravens a grade of A or B in just about every draft for the last ten years. If you take a look at the minimal number of impact players over that period of time I'd have to truthfully say we've earned a C+.

[cbrook1862]

I personally love the draft "On Paper" because it looks like they addressed every need and "Playmakers" need..
But If this draft fails in 3 years.. Im in the group of Fans who are in the "Harbaugh PowerTrip has ruined this franchise" because ever since hes been in power as head coach..we dont take Alpha males who might challenge him.. who might be the next Ray lewis,Ed Reed.. we take "Good little soldier/Character guys with lower ceilings like Elam, etc..
Thats HARBAUGH..

Ozzie picked HOFrs before Harbaugh showed up..he didnt forget how to draft.. Harbaughs power trip ruined our player selection proccess...
Instead of taking a Ray Lewis,Ed Reed..the Ravens woukd now rather take a "YES MAN" Bum player

So let me get this right, you love the draft and the guys we got, but as soon as you see false hope in our picks your ready to jump on the bandwagon with all naysayers about who we drafted and blame it on Harbaugh as if, at no point you didn't say you "loved the draft"... You sound like the fakest fan I've ever heard.

[jpboechat]

I think not everyone we drafted will have a guaranteed spot on the team seeing we made eleven picks this year, but there are plenty of interesting guys and I'm sure it will be tough come August
We're loaded at RB and TE, plus we've got nice options at the O-line. I hope someone can fill the (huge) shoes of Osemele and we'll be back to being a tough running team. And when we can run well, we can pass REALLY well. Also, how many WRs will be in 53-man roster?
Defense-wise, I think a lot of people already mentioned that a good pass-rush helps a lot the secondary play, so I think we're going to the right direction. I think I'm one who hoped we could get Cyrus Jones on the 3rd round. Seeing him going to the Patriots was tough :,(

[sami]

I don't get this "Harbaugh Power Trip" some guys are complaining about. Most of the gus we draft were captains of their teams. Also Do you really think Harbaugh tells Ozzie, "no, not that one, hes an alpha" There IS no Harbaugh power trip.

[law215]

I personally love the draft "On Paper" because it looks like they addressed every need and "Playmakers" need..
But If this draft fails in 3 years.. Im in the group of Fans who are in the "Harbaugh PowerTrip has ruined this franchise" because ever since hes been in power as head coach..we dont take Alpha males who might challenge him.. who might be the next Ray lewis,Ed Reed.. we take "Good little soldier/Character guys with lower ceilings like Elam, etc..
Thats HARBAUGH..

Ozzie picked HOFrs before Harbaugh showed up..he didnt forget how to draft.. Harbaughs power trip ruined our player selection proccess...
Instead of taking a Ray Lewis,Ed Reed..the Ravens woukd now rather take a "YES MAN" Bum player

That's it. Blame everyone but OZ. He is Harbs boss so I don't think Harbs is responsible for bad drafts. OZ is. He's the wizard when things work out so don't make excuses if things go wrong. The fact is Ravens had 9 draft picks before the draft and while on the board, passed on Buckner, Tunsil, Jack , and Spence who were from a talent perspective top 10-15. If any of these guys turn out to be stars, perennial pro bowlers while the guys he selected are just "guys" its his fault and no one else. This was supposed a draft with their reputations were on the line and according to OZ himself, previous drafts did not live up to standards. Tme will tell.

[balfan23]

1 hour ago, ravens4life86 said:

I personally love the draft "On Paper" because it looks like they addressed every need and "Playmakers" need..
But If this draft fails in 3 years.. Im in the group of Fans who are in the "Harbaugh PowerTrip has ruined this franchise" because ever since hes been in power as head coach..we dont take Alpha males who might challenge him.. who might be the next Ray lewis,Ed Reed.. we take "Good little soldier/Character guys with lower ceilings like Elam, etc..
Thats HARBAUGH..

Ozzie picked HOFrs before Harbaugh showed up..he didnt forget how to draft.. Harbaughs power trip ruined our player selection proccess...
Instead of taking a Ray Lewis,Ed Reed..the Ravens woukd now rather take a "YES MAN" Bum player

So. you love the draft and in 3 years, if all goes well, you can tell everyone how you loved the draft, in spite of many others questioning it

... and if in 3 years the draft fails, you can tell everyone how this draft was ruined because our picks were driven by Harbs forcing the FO in selecting subservient players. 

Sounds like a rigged deck to me. 

[hen826957]

Still not getting Myles Jack made me sick to my stomach. He would've been perfect next to Mosley (bad news is he might not even have surgery) and plus we still would've got Correra and Kufusi and the later rounds. Sick, Sick ?

[RavensandTerps]

With Cyrus Jones going late in the 2rd round, I started thinking how thin this year's draft is. I thought Cyrus was more of a late 3rd or 4th round pick. Other players were being taken earlier as well. For that reason, I didn't think it was a good idea to move back in the 2nd round, I thought this was the type of draft that you move up in and take a couple of good starters, like Ramsey and Miles Jack. If you check the roster and do the Math, you will find that with guys like Campanaro and many others coming back from injury, along with Whittle, Richardson and a few other vets being signed, there are not near enough spaces on this roster to add all of those draft picks, unless of course they are all fantastic and they can all make the team. Otherwise, I am guessing a lot of them will get cut and become wasted picks that we could have used to draft a few better players. This draft seemed to be more of a quality rather than quantity draft. I hope Ozzie didn't miss read it.

[Mike B]

Still not getting Myles Jack made me sick to my stomach. He would've been perfect next to Mosley (bad news is he might not even have surgery) and plus we still would've got Correra and Kufusi and the later rounds. Sick, Sick ?

Agree about Jack, but we were not getting Correra in the 3rd round.

[cec327]

Overall I would give this draft--- nothing since no one on this thread can predict the future. How come we go through this song and dance every year when it is a farce. However this nonsense is encouraged because it maintains fan interest, and keeps us going until training camp. I am sure that the Ravens will field a competitive team as usual and I, for one, can't wait until these draftees come to camp. Then ,after the season, we will have the hype again on the draft, disagreements who should have been picked and we grade the draft again through the immediate personal prisms. Ain't the beer cold.

[jrubin80]

@Mike B. Who says he doesn't need surgery? Jack said himself that doctors said he could need Microfracture surgery in the future. ALl due respect but
the fans that are upset over The Ravens not drafting an injured player are the
same fans who are labeling Perriman a bust!!!

[hen826957]

  35 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

Still not getting Myles Jack made me sick to my stomach. He would've been perfect next to Mosley (bad news is he might not even have surgery) and plus we still would've got Correra and Kufusi and the later rounds. Sick, Sick ?

Agree about Jack, but we were not getting Correra in the 3rd round.

Probably true, but l would take Jack over Correra at this point. ?