My Current Guess At The Ravens 53-Man Roster (Merged)

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I know traditionally the Ravens have kept several safeties for special teams but I wonder if they only keep 3. Levine's versatility does put Elam's spot in jeopardy. But it seems weak only having 3 safeties and a safety turned linebacker... Guess we will have to wait and see.

I'm not sure they'd do that.  To be honest, I couldn't even tell you the last time this team has carried less than 5.  In all honesty, I'm not sure they view Levine as too much of a true safety to give him significant snaps unless it was an emergency situation.  He's always been last on the depth chart there.

[trevorsteadman]

26 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I'm not sure they'd do that.  To be honest, I couldn't even tell you the last time this team has carried less than 5.  In all honesty, I'm not sure they view Levine as too much of a true safety to give him significant snaps unless it was an emergency situation.  He's always been last on the depth chart there.

Yeah and I agree they usually overload on safeties but traditionally two of them pretty much only played special teams... I'm sure they will keep at least 4 but with the versatility at other positions it is something to consider.

[rmw10]

7 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Yeah and I agree they usually overload on safeties but traditionally two of them pretty much only played special teams... I'm sure they will keep at least 4 but with the versatility at other positions it is something to consider.

Even with the looks at LB, I still imagine Levine is still typically more of an emergency player only on defense.  I'd assume they'd be willing to move McClellan back over from the edge to play inside before giving Levine any serious playing time.  I think his versatility is more of an added bonus rather than a true option, but who knows... maybe he excels at LB.

[Sherly_Tebow]

Dwight Freeney is still out there... I wouldn't mind signing him as a veteran who can still get the the QB and as a mentor to our young guys. I think replacing the punter we just signed with him wouldn't be a bad idea. Anyone else feel the same?

[Ravenseconbeast]

13 minutes ago, Sherly_Tebow said:

Dwight Freeney is still out there... I wouldn't mind signing him as a veteran who can still get the the QB and as a mentor to our young guys. I think replacing the punter we just signed with him wouldn't be a bad idea. Anyone else feel the same?

 I would bring him in.  

Our pass rush were non existant last year.  

So far, i dont see much probowl flash from any of our rushers.   We need proven depth and grabbing a pass rusher(which  are premium) at vet minomum would be worth the money

[Sherly_Tebow]

1 hour ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

 I would bring him in.  

Our pass rush were non existant last year.  

So far, i dont see much probowl flash from any of our rushers.   We need proven depth and grabbing a pass rusher(which  are premium) at vet minomum would be worth the money

I agree. I would even go a little more than vet minimum for Freeney. He showed he still had it last year. It couldn't hurt!

[ludy51]

1 hour ago, Sherly_Tebow said:

I agree. I would even go a little more than vet minimum for Freeney. He showed he still had it last year. It couldn't hurt!

Signing with ATL

[Sherly_Tebow]

1 hour ago, ludy51 said:

Signing with ATL

Dang

[EdTheMythicalOne]

4 hours ago, Sherly_Tebow said:

I agree. I would even go a little more than vet minimum for Freeney. He showed he still had it last year. It couldn't hurt!

I believe I mentioned trying to land Freeney in one of my first posts. But as others have pointed out he's headed to Atlanta to apparently sign with them.

Some interesting things have happened since I made my original predictions, but that is sort of the novelty of doing one of these early on. I didn't know that Monroe would be cut and I honestly didn't think Pitta would get medically cleared or be able to actually contribute. I am happy he is proving me wrong. I would love for him to come back and have a great season for us. I think he can be a great redzone weapon and he is a guy that Flacco trusts and already has chemistry with.

I still think a good portion of my original prediction will turn out, but there is a long way to go between now and a final 53. Injuries can and do happen and they can shake up a whole lot.

[kjbmore]

been watching our superbowl run, which is leading me to question the makeup of our roster and whether we will be much better this season than last season - due to one primary factor - game changers and talent 

we obviously feel like we've got a lot of depth, given our injury history  we're scared that we need to be 3 deep at every position.

but is it just leading to a team of middling players across the depth chart, without game winners, across our top tier - hope this isnt going to be a trend and we can stay healthy and who knows, maybe package up some of our depth and get game changing talent on the field  

 

[Sami84]

frankly, taking off the homer glasses, looking at this team..it's just not good enough IMHO. It's a below average NFL roster, unless there are real stars that we are not aware of about to burst out..and there needs to be several.

 

not a playoff team. likely a top 10 pick again.

[JoeyFlex5]

freeney said flat out he doesnt wanna play in a 34 unless for the right price, im right in assuming atlanta hasnt converted to 34 right? i think that would have been a big road block if we ever wanted to pursue him.

[Sami84]

Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

freeney said flat out he doesnt wanna play in a 34 unless for the right price, im right in assuming atlanta hasnt converted to 34 right? i think that would have been a big road block if we ever wanted to pursue him.

 

thats fine. we need to produce young stars. thats the issue with our team, there are no young stars ..just ''promise''.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

thats fine. we need to produce young stars. thats the issue with our team, there are no young stars ..just ''promise''.

i agree. our problem for years now has been that we are an old and slow team, strong fundamentals and veteran presence, but no athleticism, no explosion, and these veteran contracts are taking up a ton of space and the guys are losing a big step every year and/or getting injured, and all of our young guys seem to be projects that dont pan out or suffer 1 major injury after another. 

 

if guys like zds, perriman, henry, correa, etc. etc. dont pan out and become legit playmakers then we are in danger now that the elite veteran roster we once had is dwindling down to a scrap heap of experiments, late round picks, and camp cut-signings.

[kjbmore]

Have to then quantify that with the fact that the year prior to last we were twice 14 up on the eventual Super Bowl champ, with a sub standard back end. 

Have we improved on that team -who beat the steelers and lost to the pats? 

[Sami84]

26 minutes ago, kjbmore said:

Have to then quantify that with the fact that the year prior to last we were twice 14 up on the eventual Super Bowl champ, with a sub standard back end. 

Have we improved on that team -who beat the steelers and lost to the pats? 

 

 

i actually don't think so..on paper you could make arguements..but you can do that nearly every year. I think our O line is the big issue this year. Specifically LG and C

Edited August 6, 2016 by Sami84

[JoeyFlex5]

37 minutes ago, kjbmore said:

Have to then quantify that with the fact that the year prior to last we were twice 14 up on the eventual Super Bowl champ, with a sub standard back end. 

Have we improved on that team -who beat the steelers and lost to the pats? 

i dont think we have. we had something VERY special that year that waas just destroyed by injuries. honestly, it may have been the best ravens team of all time, and injuries just wiped out any chance of us doing something big. it was probably the best pass rush we had since 06/08, jimmy was playing like the best cb in the league that year, mosley was nothing short of a monster in middle, our run defense was business as usual, but our offense was far more consistent than we have ever seen, it was a perfect storm with forsett getting behind an elite OL in a scheme he knew very well, the resurgence of SSS, owen daniels playing very well, flacco finding the perfect system for him, monroe was playing well and healthy for the most part. 

 

nah, i dont think we improved from that, that team was special until the injuries killed us. this is a team of JAGs who have a lot of untouched potential.

[Tank 92]

47 minutes ago, kjbmore said:

Have to then quantify that with the fact that the year prior to last we were twice 14 up on the eventual Super Bowl champ, with a sub standard back end. 

Have we improved on that team -who beat the steelers and lost to the pats? 

You have to say that adding Weddle immediately improves the entire secondary, along with what looks to be an improved cast at CB. Leslie Frazier is one of the best at coaching DBs. It would seem we have done what is needed to improve. 

 

[Sami84]

10 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

You have to say that adding Weddle immediately improves the entire secondary, along with what looks to be an improved cast at CB. Leslie Frazier is one of the best at coaching DBs. It would seem we have done what is needed to improve. 

 

 

people say that EVERY year. The reality is that the O line is def NOT as good, We dont have McpHee ( whos awesome) Ngata  and both suggs and doom won't be anywhere as good as they were that year. Thats a big deal. 

[Tank 92]

44 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

people say that EVERY year. The reality is that the O line is def NOT as good, We dont have McpHee ( whos awesome) Ngata  and both suggs and doom won't be anywhere as good as they were that year. Thats a big deal. 

People say EVERY year that we picked up Weddle and Frazier?    lol   I was replying to the question about the back end. But let's talk about the rest of the team. 

I'll agree that the D line may not be as good, but there's a lot of potential there to be great again. We'll see.

O Line? Losing KO is a minus, but did we lose him as a LG or a LT?  Right now we are depending heavily on Stanley stepping in and performing well. If that doesn't happen then there will be issues. 

Huge upgrades at WR and TE. Seems we are set at RB as well. 

As you point out out we have lost a couple of key pieces from 2014, but we have also made some big additions in areas of need. As always no one knows how a team will perform until they actually play meaningful games, but It would seem overall the Ravens have done a lot of things right to improve.

Edited August 6, 2016 by Tank 92

[Sami84]

9 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

People say EVERY year that we picked up Weddle and Frazier?    lol   I was replying to the question about the back end. But let's talk about the rest of the team. 

I'll agree that the D line may not be as good, but there's a lot of potential there to be great again. We'll see.

O Line? Losing KO is a minus, but did we lose him as a LG or a LT?  Right now we are depending heavily on Stanley stepping in and performing well. If that doesn't happen then there will be issues. 

Huge upgrades at WR and TE. Seems we are set at RB as well. 

As you point out out we have lost a couple of key pieces from 2014, but we have also made some big additions in areas of need. As always no one knows how a team will perform until they actually play meaningful games, but It would seem overall the Ravens have done a lot of things right to improve.

 

 

LG..i also think C is a big issue. If we had a pro bowl caliber center i'd feel much better about this O line. So basically i think the big difference between this team and the one in 2014 was the trenches.

Edited August 6, 2016 by Sami84

[Sami84]

24 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

People say EVERY year that we picked up Weddle and Frazier?    lol   I was replying to the question about the back end. But let's talk about the rest of the team. 

I'll agree that the D line may not be as good, but there's a lot of potential there to be great again. We'll see.

O Line? Losing KO is a minus, but did we lose him as a LG or a LT?  Right now we are depending heavily on Stanley stepping in and performing well. If that doesn't happen then there will be issues. 

Huge upgrades at WR and TE. Seems we are set at RB as well. 

As you point out out we have lost a couple of key pieces from 2014, but we have also made some big additions in areas of need. As always no one knows how a team will perform until they actually play meaningful games, but It would seem overall the Ravens have done a lot of things right to improve.

 

 

McPhee,Ngata,Suggs,Doom was what made this D line deadly.We were 2nd in sacks all year.  I cannot state more bluntley how stupid we were giving jimmy smith(coming off a really bad injury) the cash over McPhee. I was ridiculued about it back when it happened. Eye test told me that McPhee is probably the best value pick ozzie had made in YEARS. 

Edited August 6, 2016 by Sami84

[Tank 92]

3 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

LG..i also think C is a big issue. If we had a pro bowl caliber center i'd feel much better about this O line. So basically i think the big difference between this team and the one in 2014 was the trenches.

 

 

Definitely differences, but that's hard to avoid. And there could be problems, but I hope not. Out of necessity we've had to put a lot of faith in young, unproven guys like Stanley, Jensen and Urschel.

it's time for Jernigan to step up, along with guys like Davis, Z. Smith, maybe even KLM. Brandon is there and I'm not giving up on Sizzle and Doom just yet. 

[Tank 92]

7 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

McPhee,Ngata,Suggs,Doom was what made this D line deadly.We were 2nd in sacks all year.  I cannot state more bluntley how stupid we were giving jimmy smith(coming off a really bad injury) the cash over McPhee. I was ridiculued about it back when it happened. Eye test told me that McPhee is probably the best value pick ozzie had made in YEARS. 

Loved McPhee, but at the time who were our CBs?  Really was no choice but to retain Jimmy. 

[Sami84]

2 hours ago, Sami84 said:

LG..i also think C is a big issue. If we had a pro bowl caliber center i'd feel much better about this O line. So basically i think the big difference between this team and the one in 2014 was the trenches.

 

really..thumbs down for this? why? because it's likely true and we should be delusional about it? 

 

so if this season is over ( boy have i heard this before) and the team doesn't make the playoffs, will it be the same trumpet being blown next year when suddenly we're way better than this year? What happens if Yanda falls off? He's the only guy that makes this line above average. 

 

 

 

[Tank 92]

6 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

really..thumbs down for this? why? because it's likely true and we should be delusional about it? 

 

so if this season is over ( boy have i heard this before) and the team doesn't make the playoffs, will it be the same trumpet being blown next year when suddenly we're way better than this year? What happens if Yanda falls off? He's the only guy that makes this line above average. 

 

 

 

 

haha!  I hit the green to to fix it as it wasn't really an outrageous statement or anything. Maybe paybacks?   lol  The game is won and lost in the trenches and if things don't pan out we could be in trouble. 

A young Matt Birk would be nice at center but Zuttah is serviceable and maybe Urschel steps in to become that guy. He's certainly intelligent enough to handle the assignment, we'll see. 

[Sami84]

 

 

QB 2

 

J.Flacco

R.Mallet

 

RB 3

 

T.West

K.Dixon

J.Allen Or Forsett ( I don’t see one of these two making it)

 

 

FB 1

 

Juice

 

O-Line 8

 

M.Yanda

R.Jensen

J.Urschel

R.Stanley

R.Wagner

J.Zuttah

A.Lewis

D.Wesley

 

WR 6

 

K.Aiken

M.Wallace

M.Campanaro

SSR

B.Perriman

C.Moore

 

 

TE 4

 

Watson

Pitta

Williams

Gillmore

 

 

 

Defense

 

D-line 7

 

B.Williams

T.Jernigan

B.Urban

L.Guy

C.Davis

M.Judon

W.Henry

 

OLB 4

 

T.Suggs

E.Dumervil

Z.Smith

V.Ochi

 

ILB 4

 

K.Correa

C.J Mosley

A.McLellen

Z.Orr

 

CB 6

 

T.Young

J.Powers

J.Smith

S.Price

S.Wright

W.Davis

 

S 4

 

E.Weddle 

L.Webb

A.Levine

M.Elam ( or brooks)

 

KU 3

 

J.Tucker

M.Cox

S.Koch

 

 

Total: 52 ( last remaining place options below, Kaufusi IR for season)

 

    

 SUS:  Waller, Boyle

 

Cusp: Matthews/Butler/Canady/Forsett/Allen/Waller/KLM/Elam or Brooks

Outside looking in: Boyle

 

The rest have no shot. I think we should stash Canady on IR. Waller is the guy i really don't want to see on the PS as he will def be sweeped up.

Edited August 7, 2016 by Sami84

[kjbmore]

posted this question against an article about the depth chart - im still new to the intricacies of nfl rosters, ir, ps, pup etc

im not familiar with how the pup works - can we stash guys there to activate later in the season??

i believe they have to miss the first 6 weeks if theyre on pup to start season

so in theory have smith & perriman stay on PUP - take their time to come back - enabling us to carry 4 backs, 4 TEs and 6 or 7 receivers not named smith or perriman

we may have some injuries in the first 6 weeks, like campanaro, one of the backs, pitta (touch wood) - can we free up 2 spots initially by doing this??

[rmw10]

4 hours ago, kjbmore said:

posted this question against an article about the depth chart - im still new to the intricacies of nfl rosters, ir, ps, pup etc

im not familiar with how the pup works - can we stash guys there to activate later in the season??

i believe they have to miss the first 6 weeks if theyre on pup to start season

so in theory have smith & perriman stay on PUP - take their time to come back - enabling us to carry 4 backs, 4 TEs and 6 or 7 receivers not named smith or perriman

we may have some injuries in the first 6 weeks, like campanaro, one of the backs, pitta (touch wood) - can we free up 2 spots initially by doing this??

Technically yes, but I don't think you're putting guys on the PUP unless they actually need to be there.  I think they'd rather have Smith or Perriman on the field than out for the first 6 weeks.  The only way I see guys like that sticking on the PUP is if they're actually going to need to miss 5-6 weeks.  It's a possibility, but I would not be looking at it as a "stash" at all.

[trevorsteadman]

I hate this roster guessing game because the Ravens always keep that one undrafted guy nobody expects to make the team.. That and guessing which players will be on the PUP and IR...