My Current Guess At The Ravens 53-Man Roster (Merged)

[Ravensfan23]

10 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I wouldn't count on Richardson one bit at this point.  If what shape he's in is already in question after having to wait a few weeks until he got in shape, it doesn't bode well for him.  I get that he's a former top 5 pick and there's plenty of talent there, but I don't see him reaching it if there are already question marks about him.  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and you know I'll admit it, but his lack of conditioning is already coming back to bite him.

The Ravens are notorious for having a grueling camp and almost to a man veterans were saying how Harbs stepped up the intensity this year so far. For for him to tweak a hamstring isn't a big deal to me. 

It's a huge difference between shape and football shape. There was no doubt this kid was out of shape the last couple years and didn't start to get back in shape until Harbs came calling, however being in shape and what the Ravens ask of you is completely different.

I agree with you not to expect much of anything from him. Even if he's in great shape there are question marks for him, I just have a feeling about him. Of course if I'm wrong I'll say it and I'm sure you'll say it for me too lol. 

[rmw10]

5 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

The Ravens are notorious for having a grueling camp and almost to a man veterans were saying how Harbs stepped up the intensity this year so far. For for him to tweak a hamstring isn't a big deal to me. 

It's a huge difference between shape and football shape. There was no doubt this kid was out of shape the last couple years and didn't start to get back in shape until Harbs came calling, however being in shape and what the Ravens ask of you is completely different.

I agree with you not to expect much of anything from him. Even if he's in great shape there are question marks for him, I just have a feeling about him. Of course if I'm wrong I'll say it and I'm sure you'll say it for me too lol. 

I think it's a case of there already being a little bit of unhappiness with him.  It's definitely a grueling camp but ultimately, it's up to Richardson to make sure he's prepared for that.  He's the low man on the totem pole right now and the coaching questioning your fitness already isn't a good sign.  Maybe it lights a fire under him, but the fire already seems to be lit for Taliaferro and West, who I think are his real competitors in this race.  He's definitely not out of the race but starting slowly after starting last already is a tough turnaround.  There's a lot for him to prove to even be considered for the 53, in my eyes.

As an aside: I saw West up at Towson a couple of weeks ago and he is in tremendous shape.

[Ravensfan23]

21 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Another case of me not necessarily disagreeing.  It's just not something I see happening.  I'm a believer that we'll keep 4 before we get rid of Forsett.

I'm struggling with keeping 4 because I can definitely see it, but I can also see keeping 4TEs, 7WRs, 9OL, 6OLBs so as you can see I'm still all over the place with my 53 lol. 

I was hesitant to jump on the Butler training camp hype train, but he impressed me during the season. If this kid can put together another impressive camp, I fight it hard to cut him. Honestly I have him as my #5 WR and if he could return kicks I'd call him a lock. 

Can't wait to see these guys at camp. 

[rmw10]

6 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I'm struggling with keeping 4 because I can definitely see it, but I can also see keeping 4TEs, 7WRs, 9OL, 6OLBs so as you can see I'm still all over the place with my 53 lol. 

I was hesitant to jump on the Butler training camp hype train, but he impressed me during the season. If this kid can put together another impressive camp, I fight it hard to cut him. Honestly I have him as my #5 WR and if he could return kicks I'd call him a lock. 

Can't wait to see these guys at camp. 

It's definitely tough at this point, but I will say I thought the same thing last year.  Come final cutdown day, I actually had trouble picking 53 I actually wanted.  Injuries will always put a damper in things and that's unfortunate.  None of this (including the Richardson comment above, since we're on 2 different conversation paths here lol) is certain of course, but all we can do is guess based on what we see now.  I'm sure every single one of us trying to predict will be plenty wrong come week 1.

[Ravensfan23]

13 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I think it's a case of there already being a little bit of unhappiness with him.  It's definitely a grueling camp but ultimately, it's up to Richardson to make sure he's prepared for that.  He's the low man on the totem pole right now and the coaching questioning your fitness already isn't a good sign.  Maybe it lights a fire under him, but the fire already seems to be lit for Taliaferro and West, who I think are his real competitors in this race.  He's definitely not out of the race but starting slowly after starting last already is a tough turnaround.  There's a lot for him to prove to even be considered for the 53, in my eyes.

As an aside: I saw West up at Towson a couple of weeks ago and he is in tremendous shape.

I agree and really don't wanna sound like I'm making excuses for him. I don't think his tweaking of a hamstring has to do with him being out of shape moreso then his body not being where it needs to be for what the Ravens are doing. Harbs mentioned being a world class conditioned athlete not just in shape. So I could see how their might be some disappointment with him but I don't think this is a deal breaker, but I'll continue to say that even without the injury he has a long way to go. 

I definitely think both West and LT are major players in the competition. Both bring that physical type running ability and if West is in great shape that should add some explosiveness to his game as well. I thought last year was LT's breakout year so I definitely think he's a factor if he can stay healthy. 

[ellicottraven]

It is such an exercise in futility trying to come up with a 53 man roster this early. I would much rather have a post with absolute 45 that will make the team no matter. I see us adding at least 3 more players to the 90 man roster through trade or TC cuts prior to the start of the season. An ILBer, a CB and an O-lineman.

[OldToby]

On May 2, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Cville-Raven said:

Assuming I counted right I think the 53 will look something similar to this

QB: Flacco, Mallet

RB/FB: Forsett, Dixon, Allen, Juice

WR: Smith Sr., Perriman, Wallace, Aiken, Moore, Camp or Reynolds

TE: Watson, Williams, Gillmore, Pitta

OL: Stanley, Wagner, Yanda, Jensen,Urschel, Zuttah, Lewis, Wesley

 

DL: Williams, Jernigan, Davis, Kaufusi, Guy, Henry 

OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Correa, Smith, Judon

ILB: Mosely, Orr, Mclellan, FA or Brown

CB: Smith, Wright, Young, Davis, Arrington, FA

S: Weddle, Webb, Levine, Brooks, Elam

ST: Tucker, Koch, Cox

This is pretty spot on. I do think an Undrafted free agent might sneak his way onto the final roster. OLB Victor Ochi from Stoney brook has a good chance. 

[ellicottraven]

2 hours ago, OldToby said:

This is pretty spot on. I do think an Undrafted free agent might sneak his way onto the final roster. OLB Victor Ochi from Stoney brook has a good chance. 

I believe that will be Ochi.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

To respond to some points that were being made I do think most of the starting jobs are locked down. It is the depth behind them that gets a little more difficult to decipher. Of course it is going to be a lot easier to make some choices when the rosters cut down to 75 from 90. Right now it is just a lot of speculation based on what we think we know and how we think the Ravens think. They've got a lot of tendencies that makes you think they will try to keep as many of their rookies on the team and PS because that's been their history. They usually do sign some late free agents if a good one comes up...like Powers signing. You won't find Powers on my list because I made it before he was signed.

I was basically making my list up on pure curiosity to see if I was even a shade close to what the final outcome will be. If others like my predictions or not is cool with me. I already had some of my picks come true and one fail. I thought Nick Perry would make the team but he was cut quite a while ago. Somebody else from the CB pool is leaving to make room for Powers.

[cushrinada1986]

On 5/2/2016 at 3:12 AM, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Tight End Edition

 

It was heartbreaking to watch Dennis Pitta go down the first time with his hip injury. The second time it happened it was devastating and hard to watch. I give him all the credit in the world that he is busting his backside in an effort to make another comeback. He will be tossing his hat in the ring to compete for a roster spot against a big free agent pick up Ben Watson, blue collar workhorse Crockett Gillmore, second round draft pick last season Maxx Williams, Nick Boyle, and surprise position change prospect Darren Waller. Were you wondering why I didn't mention him in the wide receiver portion?

 

Those of you blessed with exceptional math skills know there are six names for what is likely only four roster spots. So what is going to happen? All the credit in the world to Dennis Pitta but I just don't think he will be healthy enough to play football anymore. I don't want to tell anyone what to do, but I think he should walk away from the game while he still can walk. Nick Boyle received a second suspension for PED usage and is suspended for 10 games and may just have cost himself a roster spot when his suspension is up.

 

Who makes the grade? The Ravens didn't spend all that money on Ben Watson to have him sit around so he makes it. Crockett Gillmore is our best blocking TE and a tough catch over the middle guy with tremendous catch radius. Maxx Williams was taken too high and showed enough promise as a play maker at the position for him to lose his spot. Lastly, I think Darren Waller makes the team simply based on his standout work on special teams and as a fun match up wrinkle.

 

Roster Count: 4: Ben Watson, Crockett Gillmore, Maxx Williams, Darren Waller

Total Roster Count: 17

I think there is a lot of hidden value in Waller. People really dont have too much of a high rate of confidence in the new TE but given his size and speed, I fear we may kick ourselves in the butt if we get beat by him on another team than using him as a great move TE that can totally abuse a LB and take away a DB to cover him.

[KBoum]

I can't understand why SO MANY people write Mosely instead of Mosley ?... I really don't understand. My only explanation is that the name is auto corrected by a phone.

 

I know this is off subject but Ive been waiting like 2 years to say this comment. I'm sorry

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, KBoum said:

I can't understand why SO MANY people write Mosely instead of Mosley ?... I really don't understand. My only explanation is that the name is auto corrected by a phone.

 

I know this is off subject but Ive been waiting like 2 years to say this comment. I'm sorry

The "Bolden" era was infuriating.

Edited June 4, 2016 by rmw10

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, KBoum said:

I can't understand why SO MANY people write Mosely instead of Mosley ?... I really don't understand. My only explanation is that the name is auto corrected by a phone.

 

I know this is off subject but Ive been waiting like 2 years to say this comment. I'm sorry

You may be mosley correct in your explanation!

[Jacquouille]

Let's talk about Jenson also.

[Italian Raven]

On 6/4/2016 at 4:33 AM, rmw10 said:

The "Bolden" era was infuriating.

I would add all of those typing CampanEro instead of Campanaro.. that drives me nuts.. sounds like a Mucha Lucha character.

Edited June 5, 2016 by Italian Raven

[BmoreBird22]

Interesting question I saw posed- would you trade Juice's spot for Pitta if Pitta is healthy?

[ludy51]

14 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Interesting question I saw posed- would you trade Juice's spot for Pitta if Pitta is healthy?

No

[ravensdan]

58 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

No

Agreed. There's plenty of talent at TE. Includingwliams who has much higher upside. Juice provides a more unique contribution. 

[K-Dog]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Interesting question I saw posed- would you trade Juice's spot for Pitta if Pitta is healthy?

Good question. 

I think the quality difference between Juice and Pitta is small. However the reliability factor it's Juice by a long shot. 

[Willbacker]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Interesting question I saw posed- would you trade Juice's spot for Pitta if Pitta is healthy?

I'd keep it to where we carry only 3 RBs counting Juice as the 4th. Juice is used to lining up as a FB and is used to blocking and receiving coming out of the backfield where Pitta is more used to lining up as an inline TE or split wide. I don't see one of the TEs lining up in the backfield but its possible we could convert an RB but we'd be losing blocking skill imo

[Ashmann]

Thought I would give it a go as well. So here is my 53-man roster for this upcoming season.

QB (2): Flacco, Mallet

RB (3): Richardson, Allen, Dixon

FB (1): Juszczyk

WR (6): Smith SR., Aiken, Perriman, Wallace, Campanaro, Moore

TE (4): Watson, Gilmore, Williams, Pitta

OL (8): Stanley, Monroe, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Lewis, Urschel, Jensen

DL (7): Guy, Kaufusi, Williams, Jernigan, Urban, Davis, Henry

OLB (5): Suggs, Dumervil, Correa, Smith, Judon

ILB (4): Mosley, Orr, McClellan, Brown

CB (5): Smith, Wright, Powers, Young, Davis

S (5): Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks, Levine

ST (3): Tucker, Koch, Cox

[Sami84]

3 hours ago, Ashmann said:

Thought I would give it a go as well. So here is my 53-man roster for this upcoming season.

QB (2): Flacco, Mallet

 

RB (3): Richardson, Allen, Dixon

 

FB (1): Juszczyk

 

WR (6): Smith SR., Aiken, Perriman, Wallace, Campanaro, Moore

 

TE (4): Watson, Gilmore, Williams, Pitta

 

OL (8): Stanley, Monroe, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Lewis, Urschel, Jensen

 

DL (7): Guy, Kaufusi, Williams, Jernigan, Urban, Davis, Henry

 

OLB (5): Suggs, Dumervil, Correa, Smith, Judon

 

ILB (4): Mosley, Orr, McClellan, Brown

 

CB (5): Smith, Wright, Powers, Young, Davis

 

S (5): Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks, Levine

 

ST (3): Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

 

if thats the case, better stash ochi on IR

[January J]

Way too difficult to project a 53 at this point. And unfortunately injuries will help narrow things down. I think if we can find a way to swing it we will find a way to keep 4 rbs and 4 tight ends- ofcourse that leaves us light somewhere else.  Juice is in an interesting position just bc of the fullback position not being a necessity. However I think he's too valuable. He caught quite a few tds for us down by the goal line last year. The real question Mark is Pitta. So hard to say how things Will pan out. Is waller worth keeping? His special teams contributions could be what gets him over the hump. Also can't see us keeping Reynolds and campanaro so this might be a  do or die camp for "camp". He could be the odd man out. Will be interesting that's for sure, some tough decisions lie ahead.

Edited June 7, 2016 by January J

[Drew P]

12 hours ago, Ashmann said:

Thought I would give it a go as well. So here is my 53-man roster for this upcoming season.

QB (2): Flacco, Mallet

 

RB (3): Richardson, Allen, Dixon

 

FB (1): Juszczyk

 

WR (6): Smith SR., Aiken, Perriman, Wallace, Campanaro, Moore

 

TE (4): Watson, Gilmore, Williams, Pitta

 

OL (8): Stanley, Monroe, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Lewis, Urschel, Jensen

 

DL (7): Guy, Kaufusi, Williams, Jernigan, Urban, Davis, Henry

 

OLB (5): Suggs, Dumervil, Correa, Smith, Judon

 

ILB (4): Mosley, Orr, McClellan, Brown

 

CB (5): Smith, Wright, Powers, Young, Davis

 

S (5): Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks, Levine

 

ST (3): Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

Rich over Forsett?

[Ashmann]

On 7/6/2016 at 10:59 PM, Drew P said:

Rich over Forsett?

It's more of a gut feel than some good football argument. I just have a feeling that T-rich is going to play lights out this year, since it's his last chance. I could definitely see Forsett making the team, i just don't think they are going to leave out either Buck Allen or Dixon, so the battle has to be between Forsett and T-Rich. 

[stampedehero]

On 5/1/2016 at 9:17 AM, IceUpSon89 said:

QB:Flacco/Mallet-2

RB:Forsett/Allen/Dixon-3

FB:Juszczyk-1

TE:Watson/gillmore/Williams-3

WR:Smith/Aiken/perriman/Wallace/butler/Moore/Reynolds-7

T:Stanley/Monroe/Lewis/Wagner-4

IL:Yanda/zuttah/urschel/Jensen-4

ST:Tucker/Koch/Cox-3

DE:Guy/urban/kaufusi-3

DT:Williams/Jernigan/Davis/Henry-4

OLB:Suggs/dumervil/correa/smith/judon -5

ILB:Mosely/Orr/McClellan/UDFA-4

CB:Smith/wright/Davis/young/canady-5

S:Weddle/Webb/brooks/Lewis/Elam-5

 

i did this with the idea of keeping all of our draftees and one UDFA. 

 

Good Roster picks.  I see your UDFA as a DE/ILB D skill player  It would not surprise me if Elam was sent to PS if he is invisible again.

   

[stampedehero]

On 6/7/2016 at 4:02 AM, Ashmann said:

Thought I would give it a go as well. So here is my 53-man roster for this upcoming season.

QB (2): Flacco, Mallet

 

RB (3): Richardson, Allen, Dixon

 

FB (1): Juszczyk

 

WR (6): Smith SR., Aiken, Perriman, Wallace, Campanaro, Moore

 

TE (4): Watson, Gilmore, Williams, Pitta

 

OL (8): Stanley, Monroe, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Lewis, Urschel, Jensen

 

DL (7): Guy, Kaufusi, Williams, Jernigan, Urban, Davis, Henry

 

OLB (5): Suggs, Dumervil, Correa, Smith, Judon

 

ILB (4): Mosley, Orr, McClellan, Brown

 

CB (5): Smith, Wright, Powers, Young, Davis

 

S (5): Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks, Levine

 

ST (3): Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

Forsett gets the axe? I'll bet a rookie gets PS before Forsett gets cut.

[BmoreBird22]

On 6/7/2016 at 2:59 PM, January J said:

Way too difficult to project a 53 at this point. And unfortunately injuries will help narrow things down. I think if we can find a way to swing it we will find a way to keep 4 rbs and 4 tight ends- ofcourse that leaves us light somewhere else.  Juice is in an interesting position just bc of the fullback position not being a necessity. However I think he's too valuable. He caught quite a few tds for us down by the goal line last year. The real question Mark is Pitta. So hard to say how things Will pan out. Is waller worth keeping? His special teams contributions could be what gets him over the hump. Also can't see us keeping Reynolds and campanaro so this might be a  do or die camp for "camp". He could be the odd man out. Will be interesting that's for sure, some tough decisions lie ahead.

This is an interesting point that I don't think anyone actually considers when they sculpt their rosters. Tight ends are you're most frequent contributors to ST's (along with running backs and linebackers), so special teams could very well factor very heavily into who stays and goes. 

And then there's the fact that Waller is probably only gonna flex out, so he's a "tight end", but he'll be used like a slot receiver, so they could squeeze him into either category.

[trevorsteadman]

QB (2): Joe Flacco, Ryan Mallett

RB (3): Javorious Allen, Justin Forsett, Kenneth Dickson

FB (1): Kyle Juszczyk

WR (6): Steve Smith Sr., Kamar Aiken, Breshad Perriman, Mike Wallace, Chris Moore, Keenan Reynolds

TE (4): Ben Watson, Maxx Williams, Crockett Gillmore, Dennis Pitta

OL (8): Jeremy Zuttah, Ryan Jensen, Ronnie Stanley, John Urschel, Marshal Yanda, Rick Wagner, Alex Lewis, Eugene Monroe

DL (7): Timmy Jernigan, Brandon Williams, Carl Davis, Willie Henry, Brent Urban, Lawerence Guy, Bronson Kaufusi

OLB (4): Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil, Za'Darius Smith, Matt Judon

ILB (4):  C.J. Mosley, Kamalei Correa, Zachery Orr, Albert McClellan

CB (6): Jimmy Smith, Shareece Wright, Jeraud Powers, Tavon Young, Will Davis, Maurice Canaday (sleeper)

S (5): Eric Weddle, Lardarius Webb, Kendrick Lewis, Terrance Brooks, Anthony Levine

ST (3): Justin Tucker, Sam Koch, Morgan Cox

 

Of course this is very early and this will change once injuries happen (sadly), players I had on the bubble to make the roster were players such as Terrance West, Trent Richardson, Jeremy Butler, Michael Campanaro, Darren Waller, VIctor Ochi, and Matt Elam. West has been reported to be in excellent shape which means we may stash an extra running back. I didn't list Campanaro because if this is his 3rd straight season with injuries in the offseason like it has started then he cannot be reliable for this team. Which gives 6th round pick Keenan Reynolds the edge as long as he is healthy. I could also see Jeremy Butler exploding onto the scene because he is in his 3rd season where wide receivers sometimes explode onto the scene. 

 

TIght end could go several ways. Pitta is reliable and has proven to produce at the NFL level. We will see how his hip reacts in training camp. If it is questionable I think Waller has the edge because of his high upside being 6'6 and running a 4.40. The Ravens may start playing Za'Darius Smith at DE this season instead of OLB which may give the DL one less job to give and one more to OLB. I have us keeping Canaday for extra depth at the position we usually have injuries at. 

 

I see us trying to stash away a couple of these players but I think their talent will be too high for other teams to pass up. There will be a lot of people screaming death threats at the front office once cuts begin. Way early and many things can still happen but that is my best guess as of now.

[OldToby]

i just can't see a way to keep Waller.

Edited June 11, 2016 by OldToby