My Current Guess At The Ravens 53-Man Roster (Merged)

[Maryland]

16 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I don't think Brooks gets cut at all. As for Brown, I normally wouldn't but I'm confident we'll keep a LB behind Mosley and Orr and who's really left? I guess Beyer or Carter could somehow make it but I just don't know man.  Brown has been out there a lot on ST this year.  

Really? Price isn't eligible? I'll admit I  haven't paid as much attention this year to our signings, but I thought Price was an UDFA? And my thoughts on Allen are he could make it, but I just don't know. Yeah, he could go to someone else's practice squad but I don't know if he'll go to someone's active roster. I don't think he's shown enough. West isn't the best example for me because he had more interest in the draft than Allen did. Also, it's a risk but it depends on the health and recovery of Dixon. The 3rd or 4th RB will be inactive on gameday anyway, so it wouldn't make much difference with our depth for gameday 

Regarding Price, he was with the Colts for 3 seasons before coming here (I also was surprised when I first saw this myself). http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/roster/Sheldon-Price/f6e25fd2-3afb-4a20-84b2-03f0a95ff188

And I think they view Correa and Levine as backup ILBs, and even McClellan has played there in the past (I think in like 2013)

Edited September 1, 2016 by Maryland

[rmw10]

I've been saying all along that I think Kendrick Lewis is safe, but I'm starting to question that being that he hasn't practiced in over 3 weeks now.  The only problem is that I'm not sure who else would make it in his place.  I don't think the team is comfortable enough with Brooks as the top backup, especially with Webb's injury history.

Edited September 1, 2016 by rmw10

[rmw10]

Could be an unexpected way onto the roster for Canady.

 

[rmw10]

Latest guess:

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In all seriousness, I'll probably give this one last go tomorrow morning.

[GrimCoconut]

23 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Latest guess:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

In all seriousness, I'll probably give this one last go tomorrow morning.

So many guys are literally right on the cusp/bubble.

[allblackraven]

Whoever wins tickets, it would be more than well deserved. I don't think everybody from our FO would get it right if they submitted entries right now.

[rmw10]

Alright, let's give this one last try.  I'll talk more about the guys just making it and just missing it than the obvious ones.

 

Quarterback (2): Joe Flacco, Ryan Mallett
Cut: Josh Johnson

I never saw this as much of a competition and last night confirmed my suspicions.  If Mallett was in any danger of losing his spot, he wouldn't have been pulled so early.  Josh did well and should find a job elsewhere after he's let go.

Running Back (5): Justin Forsett, Terrance West, Kenneth Dixon, Buck Allen, Kyle Juszczyk
Cut: Stephen Houston

I think Buck was in serious danger of not having a spot until Dixon got hurt.  We'll see what happens when he gets back, but Buck shouldn't be feeling too comfortable right now.

Wide Receiver (6): Steve Smith, Kamar Aiken, Mike Wallace, Breshad Perriman, Chris Moore, Jeremy Butler
Cut: Michael Campanaro, Chris Matthews, Keenan Reynolds

I'll explain the rationale on Campanaro at the end.  Butler played too well to leave off the roster.

TIght End (3): Crockett Gillmore, Dennis Pitta, Maxx Williams
Cut: Daniel Brown
Suspended: Darren Waller, Nick Boyle

Daniel Brown should hang around on the PS, but could sneak his way on if they don't think Pitta or Williams will be healthy for week 1.

Offensive Line (8): Ronnie Stanley, John Urschel, Jeremy Zuttah, Marshal Yanda, Rick Wagner, Alex Lewis, Ryan Jensen, James Hurst
Cut: Vlad Ducasse, De'Ondre Wesley, Blaine Clausell, Matt Skura

It pains me to put James Hurst on here, but I think he makes it... for now at least.  I expect T to be an area that we search hard for during this waiver period.  I have Ducasse as off, but that's because I think he'll get the veteran "re-sign you after week 1 so your salary isn't guaranteed" treatment.  Wesley should safely make it to the PS, as should Clausell and Skura if we want them there.

Defensive Line (7): Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan, Lawrence Guy, Brent Urban, Carl Davis, Michael Pierce, Willie Henry
Cut: Kapron Lewis-Moore

I simply just couldn't leave Pierce off any longer.  He was doing damage against the Saints' 1st team OL last night, and I think he made it impossible to cut him.  Henry needs some work and will likely be a weekly inactive.  Lewis-Moore apparently had a strong camp but has done very little in the preseason.

Inside Linebacker (4): CJ Mosley, Zach Orr, Kamalei Correa, Anthony Levine
Cut: Arthur Brown, Patrick Onwuasor

I don't think there's too much to talk about here.  Arthur Brown had a nice night but it's probably too little, too late for him.  We don't have a traditional backup ILB but we also aren't playing the traditional 3-4 anymore, so I think we can suffice with Correa and Levine for the time being.

Outside Linebacker (5): Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil, Albert McClellan, Za'Darius Smith, Matt Judon
Cut: Chris Carter, Victor Ochi, Brennen Beyer

The top 5 have been locks for some time now.  Carter gave it an effort but I don't think ST is enough to save him this year.  Ochi will likely be cut and claimed elsewhere, unfortunately.  Beyer seems to be a coaches' favorite and might end up back on the PS.

Cornerback (6): Jimmy Smith, Shareece Wright, Tavon Young, Jerraud Powers, Will Davis, Sheldon Price
Cut: Maurice Canady, Carrington Byndom

I opted for Price here because he started and was out of the game early last night.  He only re-entered when Byndom got hurt and they needed another body out there.  I like Canady but I'm guessing we'll hope we can slip him through waivers.  Byndom probably gets IR'd with an eventual injury settlement due to his hammy last night.

Safety (4): Eric Weddle, Lardarius Webb, Kendrick Lewis, Terrence Brooks
Cut: Matt Elam, Julian Wilson

I think Kendrick Lewis could be in a little bit of danger since he hasn't been on the field, but sticks if he's healthy for week 1.  We could use the S depth as I think they'd rather use Levine as a chess piece than a true S.  Wilson has played both CB and S and should be a PS guy.

Special Teams (3): Justin Tucker, Sam Koch, Morgan Cox

 

 

I wouldn't say it was easy necessarily, but getting down to 55 wasn't terribly difficult.  At that point, it was the question of what to do with Canady and Campanaro.  Campanaro got the short straw simply because I thought I could better use that spot elsewhere.  I'm not exactly sure who is going to handle PR duties in this situation, but Campanaro simply had the least value to me out of the other options, so I had to leave him off.  Like OT, I suspect we'll be looking hard for a returner in the waiver period.

[Tank 92]

I'd be really surprised if they cut Camp at this point.  They've waited this long on him and I just don't think they throw away that investment.  

7 WRs, 5 CBs or maybe 6CBs and Davis goes to IR. 

[Alexir]

22 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Offensive Line (8): Ronnie Stanley, John Urschel, Jeremy Zuttah, Marshal Yanda, Rick Wagner, Alex Lewis, Ryan Jensen, James Hurst
Cut: Vlad Ducasse, De'Ondre Wesley, Blaine Clausell, Matt Skura

It pains me to put James Hurst on here, but I think he makes it... for now at least.  I expect T to be an area that we search hard for during this waiver period.  I have Ducasse as off, but that's because I think he'll get the veteran "re-sign you after week 1 so your salary isn't guaranteed" treatment.  Wesley should safely make it to the PS, as should Clausell and Skura if we want them there.

 

Good list, I will say I'd cut Hurst and Keep Carter. 2 Aging pass rushers is a huge concern, need depth there. Thanks for sharing.

[rmw10]

Just now, Alexir said:

Good list, I will say I'd cut Hurst and Keep Carter. 2 Aging pass rushers is a huge concern, need depth there. Thanks for sharing.

I wanted to leave Hurst off so bad, but I would have thought Alex Lewis would have gotten some more time at LT if they wanted him as the backup there.

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

I'd be really surprised if they cut Camp at this point.  They've waited this long on him and I just don't think they throw away that investment.  

7 WRs, 5 CBs or maybe 6CBs and Davis goes to IR. 

It definitely wasn't an easy decision to make.  I wavered a couple of times, but I ultimately decided that a 7th WR just wasn't cutting it for me this year.  The only real tough part of leaving Camp off was the fact that we have no one else at PR.

[atomicfront]

We are weak in numbers at Tight End and Inside Linebacker.  I wouldn't be surprised if we pick someone up cut by other teams at that position. 

I picked  Stephen Houston over Buck Allen for Running Back.  Seems like the better player.  

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, atomicfront said:

We are weak in numbers at Tight End and Inside Linebacker.  I wouldn't be surprised if we pick someone up cut by other teams at that position. 

I picked  Stephen Houston over Buck Allen for Running Back.  Seems like the better player.  

Stephen Houston has little, if any chance to crack the roster.  Pure camp body for us.

[atomicfront]

4 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Stephen Houston has little, if any chance to crack the roster.  Pure camp body for us.

Well if I pick the same people as everyone else how do I have a change to win the contest.  He looked good last night.  

[rmw10]

Just now, atomicfront said:

Well if I pick the same people as everyone else how do I have a change to win the contest.  He looked good last night.  

I get that, but Houston isn't the guy to take a chance on.  There was a reason he got pretty much the whole game last night, and that's because they wanted to save all of the other RBs as much as possible.

[ERey]

My 2 cents...

I'd rather keep only 6 receivers (SSSr, Wallace, Perriman, Aiken, Butler, Moore) and keep 5 corners (Jimmy Smith, Wright, Tavon Young, Will Davis, Powers).

Cut: Campanaro, Mathews, Price, Reynolds, Canady.

Practice Squad (assuming they make it through): Canady, Reynolds

[rmw10]

 

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

I was waiting for this move to happen.

[trevorsteadman]

I wonder if Hester could give us a good returner for 1-2 years like Jacoby did. Would be nice to have that feeling that anything could happen on every kick off. I miss that feeling.

[jboy19]

I'd still be happier not signing Hester. I think even if the team moves on from Camp, I'd rather have Moore, Wallace or somebody else taking over PR duties, even if they didn't have as much experience. I just don't see Hester being worth a spot when there's a lot of young guys worth keeping around instead. 

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, jboy19 said:

I'd still be happier not signing Hester. I think even if the team moves on from Camp, I'd rather have Moore, Wallace or somebody else taking over PR duties, even if they didn't have as much experience. I just don't see Hester being worth a spot when there's a lot of young guys worth keeping around instead. 

I actually wouldn't be surprised if he got signed. The Ravens are a team that recognizes how important special teams is more than anybody. If Hester can show he is at 75% of where he was at in his prime during his tryout they may pull the trigger. I miss starting on our own 35 yard line or even farther after every return. Now we struggle to make it to the 20.

[jboy19]

4 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I actually wouldn't be surprised if he got signed. The Ravens are a team that recognizes how important special teams is more than anybody. If Hester can show he is at 75% of where he was at in his prime during his tryout they may pull the trigger. I miss starting on our own 35 yard line or even farther after every return. Now we struggle to make it to the 20.

It's definitely a move that Ozzie would do, but I do think that starting position has been more a result of a questionable defense than a ST problem in recent years though. 

[ERey]

Super Bowl 35 - Jermaine Lewis

Super Bowl 47 - Jacoby Jones

Both these guys were crucial in their respective seasons. If Devin Hester is better than what we have then do it. Of course the issue is most likely someone with talent who belongs on an NFL roster will need to be cut. I'd hate to have Ozzie's job right now.

[jboy19]

17 minutes ago, ERey said:

Super Bowl 35 - Jermaine Lewis

Super Bowl 47 - Jacoby Jones

Both these guys were crucial in their respective seasons. If Devin Hester is better than what we have then do it. Of course the issue is most likely someone with talent who belongs on an NFL roster will need to be cut. I'd hate to have Ozzie's job right now.

I think the problem is that Punters have gotten a lot better in recent years as teams have started focusing more on specialized training for them- even Jacoby Jones had most of his returning success on kickoffs. I don't think we are hurting for kick returners very much since we have guys like Moore, Dixon, and Wallace who have shown to be adept at it. Punt Returns are much different and require a different skillset to an extent than Kick Returns since punts are a lot harder to catch than kicks and the returner has a lot less time to build speed and won't see the other team coming as easily. Camp and Reynolds seem to have been the preferred options and aside from whatever happened on his one play last night where he fumbled twice (apologies, I didn't catch the game), Camp was assumed to be the punt returner since he was the only one who seemed to be consistently fielding punts. Reynolds did as well as anybody could have expected, but still wasn't ready. Unless Camp struggled in practice with fielding punts (which from what I've heard and seen posted on here isn't the case), I personally don't see the need to bring in Hester. 

Edit: it's also worth noting that Hester wasn't returning punts last year for the Falcons- Eric Weems was 

Edited September 2, 2016 by jboy19

[Sami84]

QB 2

 

J.Flacco

R.Mallet

 

RB

T.West

K.Dixon

J.Forsett

B.Allen

 

 

FB 1

 

Juice

 

O-Line 8

 

M.Yanda

R.Jensen

J.Urschel

R.Stanley

R.Wagner

J.Zuttah

A.Lewis

 

 

WR 7

 

K.Aiken

M.Wallace

M.Campanaro

SSR

J.Butler

C.Moore

Perriman

 

TE 3

 

Pitta

Williams

Gillmore

 

 

 

Defense

 

D-line 6

 

B.Williams

T.Jernigan

B.Urban

L.Guy

M.Pierce

W.Henry

 

OLB 5

 

T.Suggs

E.Dumervil

Z.Smith

M.Judon

V.Ochi

 

ILB 4

 

K.Correa

C.J Mosley

A.McLellen

Z.Orr

 

CB 6

 

T.Young

J.Powers

J.Smith

S.Price

S.Wright

W.Davis

 

S 4

 

E.Weddle 

L.Webb

A.Levine

Brooks

 

KOT 3

 

J.Tucker

M.Cox

S.Koch

Edited September 2, 2016 by Sami84

[allblackraven]

2 QB: Flacco, Mallett
I would have prefered Johnson, dude is very good baller but it was obvious he was given the opportunity to audition for other teams last night

8 OL: Stanley, Wagner, Lewis, Yanda, Zuttah, Jensen, Urschel, Ducasse
Just can't get myself to include Hurst but he might be in for Ducasse

4 RB: Forsett, West, Dixon, Allen
Although Buck Allen has a value on 3rd down he wouldn't be on my team. It's very frustrating for me to watch him rushing. Unfortunate Dixon's injury earns him a roster spot

1 HB: Juszcyzck
Yeah

6 WR: Perriman, Wallace, Smith, Aiken, Butler, Moore
Injuries and less than solid play in returning department spell the end for Camp

3 TE: Pitta, Gilmore, Williams
Hopefully they are all healthy enough until the reinforcements arrive

6 DL: Williams, Jernigan, Pierce, Henry, Guy, Urban
Ankle injury might be a blessing in disguise for Davis

5 OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, Judon, Ochi
I'm a sucker for speed pass rushers. Have to keep Ochi on my team due to huge potential. Probably Dumervil's last season, possibly Sizzle's, too. If Ochi is cut, the only consolation for me would be Myles Garrett next year.

4 ILB: Mosley, Orr, McClellan, Correa
Moving Albert here to make space for Ochi. McClellan can do it in a pinch, Levine as well. Tough entrance to NFL for Correa. A lot has been thrown at him, got confused a little. He'll be alright in a long run, I think but he won't be on active for the game list much

5 S: Weddle, Webb, Brooks, Levine, Lewis
Lewis gets a spot on experience.

6 CB: Smith, Wright, Davis, Young, Price, Powers
We need corner (Price) who can play on the sideline. I like Canady, too - hopefully he can find a way onto our PS

1 K: Tucker
1 P: Koch
1 LS: Cox

Not entirely convinced but there it is. A. Brown, KLM, Camp, Hurst and Elam may still end up on 53.

[Sami84]

56 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

2 QB: Flacco, Mallett
I would have prefered Johnson, dude is very good baller but it was obvious he was given the opportunity to audition for other teams last night

8 OL: Stanley, Wagner, Lewis, Yanda, Zuttah, Jensen, Urschel, Ducasse
Just can't get myself to include Hurst but he might be in for Ducasse

4 RB: Forsett, West, Dixon, Allen
Although Buck Allen has a value on 3rd down he wouldn't be on my team. It's very frustrating for me to watch him rushing. Unfortunate Dixon's injury earns him a roster spot

1 HB: Juszcyzck
Yeah

6 WR: Perriman, Wallace, Smith, Aiken, Butler, Moore
Injuries and less than solid play in returning department spell the end for Camp

3 TE: Pitta, Gilmore, Williams
Hopefully they are all healthy enough until the reinforcements arrive

6 DL: Williams, Jernigan, Pierce, Henry, Guy, Urban
Ankle injury might be a blessing in disguise for Davis

5 OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, Judon, Ochi
I'm a sucker for speed pass rushers. Have to keep Ochi on my team due to huge potential. Probably Dumervil's last season, possibly Sizzle's, too. If Ochi is cut, the only consolation for me would be Myles Garrett next year.

4 ILB: Mosley, Orr, McClellan, Correa
Moving Albert here to make space for Ochi. McClellan can do it in a pinch, Levine as well. Tough entrance to NFL for Correa. A lot has been thrown at him, got confused a little. He'll be alright in a long run, I think but he won't be on active for the game list much

5 S: Weddle, Webb, Brooks, Levine, Lewis
Lewis gets a spot on experience.

6 CB: Smith, Wright, Davis, Young, Price, Powers
We need corner (Price) who can play on the sideline. I like Canady, too - hopefully he can find a way onto our PS

1 K: Tucker
1 P: Koch
1 LS: Cox

Not entirely convinced but there it is. A. Brown, KLM, Camp, Hurst and Elam may still end up on 53.

 

Yup, I like this..

[PurpleCity5]

I think its ridiculous to cut Henry because of that roughing the passer penalty. He's been solid and can be a contributor for this team, why cut him because of one player? I know Harbaugh comes down hard on guys who makes mistakes but how often has he cut a player who has shown flashes and potential because of a penalty that yes, was a bad mistake but one that he will learn from. I can understand if he went overboard and socked the QB in his face but that wasn't the case here. 

[Maryland]

I think backup OT (instead of Hurst or whoever), backup safety (instead of K.Lewis), and P/K returner are the most likely signings before season start. This complicates the prediction-making. 

I guess if I were to revise my old prediction a bit, I keep Henry and cut Campanaro, since, as others have said, keeping a 7th WR isn't a good use of a roster spot. They have other options at returner, even if they aren't the most proven or are a bit too old to do it (like Webb and Steve Smith can field punts, but do you really want them doing that?)

On 8/30/2016 at 5:09 AM, Maryland said:

QB: Flacco, Mallett --I'm assuming they trade Josh Johnson for a conditional 7th or a position of need (like depth safety, returner, OT) based on playing time to some team before the season begins; he's too talented/experienced to be out of the NFL for good.

RB: Forsett, West, Buck Allen, Dixon, Juszczeck --I think they hang-on to Dixon, given that his injury is projected to carry a 4-6 week recovery time, meaning he could return as early as week 3, though week 5 is more realistic. Dixon looked really exciting before his knee injury; it wouldn't surprise me if he makes an immediate impact as a #2 RB when he returns. Forsett and Allen have been surprisingly lackluster in preseason. Juice should see more snaps with how shallow we are at TE. Taliaferro will remain on PUP all season unless we need a RB after week 6. 

WR: SS89, Wallace, Perriman, Aiken, Butler, Campanaro, Moore --That's 7 receivers, one more than usual. The injury to Watson helps take the difficulty of this decision away; now we definitely have room for another WR. Keenan Reynolds should make our PS safely; he has looked too raw for any team to roster him. Camp didn't show enough as a returner or even as a receiver in preseason to merit a roster spot, though I still kind of expect him to be kept despite my predictions. 

TE: Gillmore, Pitta, Maxx Williams (Waller and Boyle suspended) --These are the only three TEs worth a roster spot. They could pick up a roster cut if they want to bolster this shaky position, or just ride with Daniel Brown until Waller comes off suspension. Supposedly all of them will be ready for week 1 health-wise. 

OL: Stanley, Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Urschel, Jensen, Ducasse --I am now thinking that Ducasse probably doesn't make the team week 1, but is later re-signed once his base salary becomes non-guaranteed (the Billy Bajema treatment). 

DL: Brandon Williams, Michael Pierce, Carl Davis, Timmy Jernigan, Lawrence Guy, Brent Urban, Willie Henry --I think they cut KLM and keep rookie UDFA Pierce, who has looked too good to make the PS, plus he's the only true NT besides B.Williams (Davis is more of a 3-tech imo). Willie Henry gets IR'd--a very diffident prediction and the hardest decision I made in this mock. If I keep Henry, I cut Terrance Brooks or Sheldon Price. 

LB: Suggs, Doom, Z.Smith, Judon, Correa, McClellan, Mosley, Orr --I really wish there was room for Ochi, but he almost definitely gets cut and claimed by someone else. 

CB: Jimmy, Wright, Powers, Young, Will Davis, Sheldon Price  --The only dilemma here is deciding whether to keep Canady or Price. I think they IR Canady and keep Price. Powers is such a mystery: he has looked like the worst CB on our team in preseason, but the coaches love him for whatever reason. Wright has also looked shaky, but maybe he'll recapture his performance last season when games matter. 

S: Webb, Weddle, Levine, Lewis, Brooks --Brooks is the weakest link in this group, and I think it's possible he's cut for someone else's cap casualty before the season begins. If they do keep Brooks, I think it's possible he is still cut mid-season if/when Elam heals up. Pees likes to keep a lot of safeties in recent history, so I don't think they go with any less than 5 safeties (if you call Levine a safety). 

Special: Koch, Tucker, Cox

 

[Maryland]

If I do a more fun "keep my favorite players" prediction, it's more like

QB (2) : Flacco, Johnson (trade Mallett, hate his personality)

RB (4): Dixon, West, Forsett, Allen,* Juszczyk

WR (6): Smith, Perriman, Wallace, Butler, Aiken, Moore (cut Camp)

TE (3): Pitta, Gillmore, Williams 

OL (8): Stanley, Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Urschel, Jensen, Wesley** (cut Hurst, Ducasse)

DL (6): B.Williams, Pierce, Henry, Jernigan, Urban, Guy (IR C.Davis, cut KLM)

LB (9): Suggs, Dumervil, Z.Smith, Judon, Correa, McClellan, Mosley, Orr, Ochi

CB (6): Jimmy, Wright, Young, Davis, Price, Canady (cut Powers)

S (5): Webb, Weddle, Levine, Brooks (cut K.Lewis, cut Elam,* let Canady play more safety in practice)

Special (4): Koch, Tucker, Cox, (acquire a full-time P/K returner from somewhere)

 

*I would keep Buck Allen for ~4 weeks and then cut him once Dixon is healthy, and then sign Elam to the vacant roster spot. 

**And Ducasse would still get Bajema'd with non-guaranteed base salary after week 1, so even though he's not technically on the opening-day roster, he would be the 8th OL most of the season (we'd only keep Wesley for week 1)

Edited September 3, 2016 by Maryland