My Current Guess At The Ravens 53-Man Roster (Merged)

[Maryland]

My prediction for the 53-man roster

QB: Flacco, Mallett --I'm assuming they trade Josh Johnson for a conditional 7th based on playing time to some team before the season begins; he's too talented/experienced to be out of the NFL for good.

RB: Forsett, West, Buck Allen, Dixon, Juszczeck --I think they hang-on to Dixon, given that his injury is projected to carry a 4-6 week recovery time, meaning he could return as early as week 3, though week 5 is more realistic. Dixon looked really exciting before his knee injury; it wouldn't surprise me if he makes an immediate impact as a #2 RB when he returns. Forsett and Allen have been surprisingly lackluster in preseason. Juice should see more snaps with how shallow we are at TE. Taliaferro will remain on PUP all season unless we need a RB after week 6. 

WR: SS89, Wallace, Perriman, Aiken, Butler, Campanaro, Moore --That's 7 receivers, one more than usual. The injury to Watson helps take the difficulty of this decision away; now we definitely have room for another WR. Keenan Reynolds should make our PS safely; he has looked too raw for any team to roster him. 

TE: Gillmore, Pitta, Maxx Williams (Waller and Boyle suspended) --These are the only three TEs worth a roster spot. They could pick up a roster cut if they want to bolster this shaky position, or just ride with Daniel Brown until Waller comes off suspension. Supposedly all of them will be ready for week 1 health-wise. 

OL: Stanley, Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Urschel, Jensen, Ducasse --no surprises here. They could look to add another OT if someone is cut from another team. 

DL: Brandon Williams, Michael Pierce, Carl Davis, Timmy Jernigan, Lawrence Guy, Brent Urban --I think they cut KLM and keep rookie UDFA Pierce, who has looked too good to make the PS, plus he's the only true NT besides B.Williams (Davis is more of a 3-tech imo). Willie Henry gets IR'd--a very diffident prediction and the hardest decision I made in this mock. If I keep Henry, I cut Terrance Brooks or Sheldon Price. 

LB: Suggs, Doom, Z.Smith, Judon, Correa, McClellan, Mosley, Orr --I really wish there was room for Ochi, but he almost definitely gets cut. 

CB: Jimmy, Wright, Powers, Young, Will Davis, Sheldon Price  --The only dilemma here is deciding whether to keep Canady or Price. I think they IR Canady and keep Price. Powers is such a mystery: he has looked like the worst CB on our team in preseason, but the coaches love him for whatever reason. Wright has also looked shaky, but maybe he'll recapture his performance last season when games matter. 

S: Webb, Weddle, Levine, Lewis, Brooks --Brooks is the weakest link in this group, and I think it's possible he's cut for someone else's cap casualty before the season begins. If they do keep Brooks, I think it's possible he is still cut mid-season if/when Elam heals up. Pees likes to keep a lot of safeties in recent history, so I don't think they go with any less than 5 safeties (if you call Levine a safety). 

Special: Koch, Tucker, Cox

This is probably final, though I may tweak depending on injury, an extreme good/bad preseason game 4 from some bubble player, or any major unforeseen developments (an arrest, suspension, etc.)

[Moderator 3]

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[GrimCoconut]

OFFENSE - 22

QB: (2) Flacco, Mallett

RB: (3) Forsett, Dixon, West

FB: (1) Juszczyk

TE: (3) Pitta, Gillmore, Williams

WR: (6) Smith, Wallace, Aiken, Perriman, Butler, Moore

OL: (7) Stanley, Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Urschel, Jensen

I don't think Allen has done enough to make the team and I think we could very well cut him like we did John Simon. West outplayed him and Dixon is a star in the making, it would seem, and Forsett isn't going anywhere so I think the numbers don't work for him. Since Dixon's injury isn't considered serious, and since we have Taliaferro on the PUP and could use him as insurance, I think Allen gets cut and perhaps brought to the PS. I had a hard time with OL, but I think we believe we could stash a guy on the PS like Wesley and be fine. I don't think anyone is about to poach Wesley from us. Reynolds I also think makes it to the PS. I think the team may let Ducasse go because I don't think it's likely anyone signs him and possibly make him the 2016 Billy Bajema. If not, I think Ducasse makes the team. 

Offense PS: Allen, Reynolds, Wesley

DEFENSE - 27

DL: (7) Guy, Williams, Jernigan, Henry, Pierce, Urban, Davis

Edge: (6) Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, McClellan, Judon, Correa

LB: (3) Mosley, Orr, Brown

CB: (6) Smith, Wright, Young, Davis, Powers, Price

S: (5) Weddle, Webb, Levine, Lewis, Brooks

I think Pierce has done enough to make the team and I think Lewis-Moore has been outplayed and makes the PS. Having Levine means we can go light at ILB, and I think Brown makes the team as a ST guy. I can also see us cut Brown and put him on the PS, but I think it's likelier he makes the 53. I wanted to put Canady on the 53, but I just think he'll go to the PS due to his injury. I think the team still likes Powers and keeps him despite the 'eh' preseason. Canady could easily make the team and Price could be the one to go to the PS, however. I just think availability helps Price unless something happens in PS4 @ NO. I see Brooks as the back-up dime behind Levine now that Elam is hurt. 

Defense PS: Ochi, Lewis-Moore, Beyer, Canady

ST: (4) Tucker, Koch, Cox, Campanaro

[rmw10]

As Grim said above, I've really been considering the possibility of Ducasse getting cut and re-signed after week 1 so his contract isn't guaranteed.  I can't see anyone signing him on the open market, but if they do, I don't see it as a huge loss.  It could buy us some time to make a tougher decision elsewhere if we deem it necessary.

[redlobster]

9 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

OFFENSE - 22

QB: (2) Flacco, Mallett

RB: (3) Forsett, Dixon, West

FB: (1) Juszczyk

TE: (3) Pitta, Gillmore, Williams

WR: (6) Smith, Wallace, Aiken, Perriman, Butler, Moore

OL: (7) Stanley, Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Urschel, Jensen

I don't think Allen has done enough to make the team and I think we could very well cut him like we did John Simon. West outplayed him and Dixon is a star in the making, it would seem, and Forsett isn't going anywhere so I think the numbers don't work for him. Since Dixon's injury isn't considered serious, and since we have Taliaferro on the PUP and could use him as insurance, I think Allen gets cut and perhaps brought to the PS. I had a hard time with OL, but I think we believe we could stash a guy on the PS like Wesley and be fine. I don't think anyone is about to poach Wesley from us. Reynolds I also think makes it to the PS. I think the team may let Ducasse go because I don't think it's likely anyone signs him and possibly make him the 2016 Billy Bajema. If not, I think Ducasse makes the team. 

Offense PS: Allen, Reynolds, Wesley

DEFENSE - 27

DL: (7) Guy, Williams, Jernigan, Henry, Pierce, Urban, Davis

Edge: (6) Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, McClellan, Judon, Correa

LB: (3) Mosley, Orr, Brown

CB: (6) Smith, Wright, Young, Davis, Powers, Price

S: (5) Weddle, Webb, Levine, Lewis, Brooks

I think Pierce has done enough to make the team and I think Lewis-Moore has been outplayed and makes the PS. Having Levine means we can go light at ILB, and I think Brown makes the team as a ST guy. I can also see us cut Brown and put him on the PS, but I think it's likelier he makes the 53. I wanted to put Canady on the 53, but I just think he'll go to the PS due to his injury. I think the team still likes Powers and keeps him despite the 'eh' preseason. Canady could easily make the team and Price could be the one to go to the PS, however. I just think availability helps Price unless something happens in PS4 @ NO. I see Brooks as the back-up dime behind Levine now that Elam is hurt. 

Defense PS: Ochi, Lewis-Moore, Beyer, Canady

ST: (4) Tucker, Koch, Cox, Campanaro

0% chance brown would be cut and go to the practice squad . He would be claimed and be on a 4-3 team or a LB needy team.

[atomicfront]

10 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

OFFENSE - 22

QB: (2) Flacco, Mallett

RB: (3) Forsett, Dixon, West

FB: (1) Juszczyk

TE: (3) Pitta, Gillmore, Williams

WR: (6) Smith, Wallace, Aiken, Perriman, Butler, Moore

OL: (7) Stanley, Lewis, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Urschel, Jensen

I don't think Allen has done enough to make the team and I think we could very well cut him like we did John Simon. West outplayed him and Dixon is a star in the making, it would seem, and Forsett isn't going anywhere so I think the numbers don't work for him. Since Dixon's injury isn't considered serious, and since we have Taliaferro on the PUP and could use him as insurance, I think Allen gets cut and perhaps brought to the PS. I had a hard time with OL, but I think we believe we could stash a guy on the PS like Wesley and be fine. I don't think anyone is about to poach Wesley from us. Reynolds I also think makes it to the PS. I think the team may let Ducasse go because I don't think it's likely anyone signs him and possibly make him the 2016 Billy Bajema. If not, I think Ducasse makes the team. 

Offense PS: Allen, Reynolds, Wesley

DEFENSE - 27

DL: (7) Guy, Williams, Jernigan, Henry, Pierce, Urban, Davis

Edge: (6) Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, McClellan, Judon, Correa

LB: (3) Mosley, Orr, Brown

CB: (6) Smith, Wright, Young, Davis, Powers, Price

S: (5) Weddle, Webb, Levine, Lewis, Brooks

I think Pierce has done enough to make the team and I think Lewis-Moore has been outplayed and makes the PS. Having Levine means we can go light at ILB, and I think Brown makes the team as a ST guy. I can also see us cut Brown and put him on the PS, but I think it's likelier he makes the 53. I wanted to put Canady on the 53, but I just think he'll go to the PS due to his injury. I think the team still likes Powers and keeps him despite the 'eh' preseason. Canady could easily make the team and Price could be the one to go to the PS, however. I just think availability helps Price unless something happens in PS4 @ NO. I see Brooks as the back-up dime behind Levine now that Elam is hurt. 

Defense PS: Ochi, Lewis-Moore, Beyer, Canady

ST: (4) Tucker, Koch, Cox, Campanaro

I don't think Arthur Brown is practice squad eligible. 

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, redlobster said:

0% chance brown would be cut and go to the practice squad . He would be claimed and be on a 4-3 team or a LB needy team.

Eh, if it was possible it is. I'm not sure there's any interest for him since he's been so disappointing. I'm not sure him going to a 4-3 team magically makes him more aware of where the football is or improves his ability to use his athleticism on the field. I just don't think he's any good, unfortunately. 

8 minutes ago, atomicfront said:

I don't think Arthur Brown is practice squad eligible. 

He's not, you're right. I somehow thought the new rule change went to 3 years of accrued seasons, but it's only 2. He's not eligible. 

[Maryland]

@GrimCoconut In addition to Brown not being eligible for the PS, neither is Price.

I think you have a really good point about Ducasse being this year's Bajema. I might have to shamelessly steal that prediction for the "You Pick the Team" contest  

It seems a bit doubtful they would enter the season with only 2 healthy RBs for the first 3 weeks (or more), which makes it seem unlikely to me they cut Allen. Plus I don't think he would make the PS just based on how well he played at the end of last year. For comparison, even Terrance West got picked-up by the Titans last year despite looking very pedestrian with the Browns. 

I really hope I'm just overrating him and simply wrong about this, but I have a strong feeling Ochi gets picked-up by someone else needing a pass rusher, meaning he won't make our PS. 

Also very surprised you think they keep Arthur Brown. He was inactive repeatedly in his early years because he couldn't contribute on Special Teams, plus he just plain stinks at LB. Everything I've read coupled with the playing time he gets in pre-season make it seem like the coaching staff just wants to move on from him. 

I wonder if Brooks being PS eligible might impact what we do with him...

[GrimCoconut]

6 hours ago, Maryland said:

@GrimCoconut In addition to Brown not being eligible for the PS, neither is Price.

I think you have a really good point about Ducasse being this year's Bajema. I might have to shamelessly steal that prediction for the "You Pick the Team" contest  

It seems a bit doubtful they would enter the season with only 2 healthy RBs for the first 3 weeks (or more), which makes it seem unlikely to me they cut Allen. Plus I don't think he would make the PS just based on how well he played at the end of last year. For comparison, even Terrance West got picked-up by the Titans last year despite looking very pedestrian with the Browns. 

I really hope I'm just overrating him and simply wrong about this, but I have a strong feeling Ochi gets picked-up by someone else needing a pass rusher, meaning he won't make our PS. 

Also very surprised you think they keep Arthur Brown. He was inactive repeatedly in his early years because he couldn't contribute on Special Teams, plus he just plain stinks at LB. Everything I've read coupled with the playing time he gets in pre-season make it seem like the coaching staff just wants to move on from him. 

I wonder if Brooks being PS eligible might impact what we do with him...

I don't think Brooks gets cut at all. As for Brown, I normally wouldn't but I'm confident we'll keep a LB behind Mosley and Orr and who's really left? I guess Beyer or Carter could somehow make it but I just don't know man.  Brown has been out there a lot on ST this year.  

Really? Price isn't eligible? I'll admit I  haven't paid as much attention this year to our signings, but I thought Price was an UDFA? And my thoughts on Allen are he could make it, but I just don't know. Yeah, he could go to someone else's practice squad but I don't know if he'll go to someone's active roster. I don't think he's shown enough. West isn't the best example for me because he had more interest in the draft than Allen did. Also, it's a risk but it depends on the health and recovery of Dixon. The 3rd or 4th RB will be inactive on gameday anyway, so it wouldn't make much difference with our depth for gameday 

[jboy19]

4 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I don't think Brooks gets cut at all. As for Brown, I normally wouldn't but I'm confident we'll keep a LB behind Mosley and Orr and who's really left? I guess Beyer or Carter could somehow make it but I just don't know man.  Brown has been out there a lot on ST this year.  

Really? Price isn't eligible? I'll admit I  haven't paid as much attention this year to our signings, but I thought Price was an UDFA? And my thoughts on Allen are he could make it, but I just don't know. Yeah, he could go to someone else's practice squad but I don't know if he'll go to someone's active roster. I don't think he's shown enough. West isn't the best example for me because he had more interest in the draft than Allen did. Also, it's a risk but it depends on the health and recovery of Dixon. The 3rd or 4th RB will be inactive on gameday anyway, so it wouldn't make much difference with our depth for gameday 

I think McClellan and Correa are going to be viewed as the MLB backups- even if they have been playing more on the outside than inside thus far. 

Edit: Looks like Levine is going to have his share of MLB snaps too this year. 

Edited August 31, 2016 by jboy19

[GrimCoconut]

2 hours ago, jboy19 said:

I think McClellan and Correa are going to be viewed as the MLB backups- even if they have been playing more on the outside than inside thus far. 

Edit: Looks like Levine is going to have his share of MLB snaps too this year. 

Yeah, Levine will play LB but that's why I only had 3. And yes, McClellan will also rotate there but you need at least one designated backup.  I doubt we go into the year with only Orr and Mosley as our only 2 true ILB.  I'll even bet on that. 

I know Brown isn't liked much and justifiably so, but I don't see us only having Mosley and Orr with McClellan and Levine as the backups. If it's not Brown then it'll be Beyer or Carter perhaps, and even both of them are OLB that can play ILB.

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yeah, Levine will play LB but that's why I only had 3. And yes, McClellan will also rotate there but you need at least one designated backup.  I doubt we go into the year with only Orr and Mosley as our only 2 true ILB.  I'll even bet on that. 

I know Brown isn't liked much and justifiably so, but I don't see us only having Mosley and Orr with McClellan and Levine as the backups. If it's not Brown then it'll be Beyer or Carter perhaps, and even both of them are OLB that can play ILB.

Yeah it's tough to tell what they're doing at backup ILB, which is why I'll acknowledge that Arthur Brown still probably has a chance.  Correa has played a majority of his snaps this preseason at OLB.  McClellan is now a starter (on running downs) at OLB, so I'm not sure they'd want to move him inside unless it's an emergency.  Levine is definitely a part time player as a LB.  All 3 could play there in emergency situations, but I'd also think they might want a guy that can actually step in if necessary so there aren't tons of moving parts.

[GrimCoconut]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Yeah it's tough to tell what they're doing at backup ILB, which is why I'll acknowledge that Arthur Brown still probably has a chance.  Correa has played a majority of his snaps this preseason at OLB.  McClellan is now a starter (on running downs) at OLB, so I'm not sure they'd want to move him inside unless it's an emergency.  Levine is definitely a part time player as a LB.  All 3 could play there in emergency situations, but I'd also think they might want a guy that can actually step in if necessary so there aren't tons of moving parts.

That's my thought process as well. Brown, while a major disappointment, is now entering his fourth year here and has completed his fourth training camp. He hasn't been great but we know what we got here and he hopefully knows the defense at least through diffusion from time spent learning here. I think his value as a true backup and ST player narrowly save him. 

[allblackraven]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Yeah it's tough to tell what they're doing at backup ILB, which is why I'll acknowledge that Arthur Brown still probably has a chance.  Correa has played a majority of his snaps this preseason at OLB.  McClellan is now a starter (on running downs) at OLB, so I'm not sure they'd want to move him inside unless it's an emergency.  Levine is definitely a part time player as a LB.  All 3 could play there in emergency situations, but I'd also think they might want a guy that can actually step in if necessary so there aren't tons of moving parts.

There's always an option to sign a vet.

[rmw10]

Just now, allblackraven said:

There's always an option to sign a vet.

Absolutely.  Don't think Brown is safe by any means and I don't have him on my roster, but it wouldn't shock me.  I think it will depend on who is cut over the next few days, as the current ILBs available clearly weren't good enough options.

[rmw10]

And the real reason I came back to this thread...

Although I don't think he'll make the 53, I actually really like what Julian Wilson has done.  He struggled in game 2 but he was very active in game 3.  I think his versatility in being able to play both S and CB could land him a spot on the PS.

[ellicottraven]

Michael Pierce is the dark horse to make the 53 man roster over KLM imo. He's just a nose to the ground football player who's always around the football and has a tremendous motor. He reminds me of a Ravens DT and he would really add stoutness in relief to Brandon Williams.

[omar586]

my53

[ellicottraven]

2 minutes ago, omar586 said:

my53

I would take out Ochi and add Allen back in... otherwise I like it. Pierce is a good choice instead of KLM imo. Another dark horse would be Keenan Reynolds... 

[allblackraven]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

And the real reason I came back to this thread...

Although I don't think he'll make the 53, I actually really like what Julian Wilson has done.  He struggled in game 2 but he was very active in game 3.  I think his versatility in being able to play both S and CB could land him a spot on the PS.

Yep - he was unlucky last year with the injury. I always liked him to play safety for us.

[rmw10]

13 minutes ago, omar586 said:

my53

Don't think Ochi is going to make it, and I think you went a little light in the secondary.  9 guys, 1 of which has been playing more LB, is a tough sell.

[BmoreBird22]

So, just a real tough sell, but one I'm semi curious to hear other's thoughts on-

Carl Davis hasn't played well whatsoever and Michael Pierce has. Pierce is also a far better pure nose tackle and could fill in next year if B. Will walks.

So, chances Davis is cut in favor of Pierce?

I went bold with this roster prediction and swapped Price in for Canady and Pierce in for Davis. Don't really think the latter will happen, but why not make a bold move?

[rmw10]

16 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

So, just a real tough sell, but one I'm semi curious to hear other's thoughts on-

Carl Davis hasn't played well whatsoever and Michael Pierce has. Pierce is also a far better pure nose tackle and could fill in next year if B. Will walks.

So, chances Davis is cut in favor of Pierce?

I went bold with this roster prediction and swapped Price in for Canady and Pierce in for Davis. Don't really think the latter will happen, but why not make a bold move?

I wouldn't be 100% shocked, but I don't see it as likely at all.  While I agree that Davis hasn't done well, I just can't see us giving up on a 3rd round pick this early, especially since he did show flashes early last season.

[GrimCoconut]

27 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

So, just a real tough sell, but one I'm semi curious to hear other's thoughts on-

Carl Davis hasn't played well whatsoever and Michael Pierce has. Pierce is also a far better pure nose tackle and could fill in next year if B. Will walks.

So, chances Davis is cut in favor of Pierce?

I went bold with this roster prediction and swapped Price in for Canady and Pierce in for Davis. Don't really think the latter will happen, but why not make a bold move?

I think it's unlikely because Davis, while he has disappointed, isn't quite the same as other guys who have. A 3rd round pick has more value than cutting a 4th round pick like Allen. We have a precedent of potentially cutting 4th round picks the year after their rookie year; however, I can't recall a time when we cut a 3rd round pick a year after drafting them. I think Davis sticks around for his potential and his draft stock. He hasn't been good, but we'll see what his future holds but I would bank he sticks here for at least this year.

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I wouldn't be 100% shocked, but I don't see it as likely at all.  While I agree that Davis hasn't done well, I just can't see us giving up on a 3rd round pick this early, especially since he did show flashes early last season.

I don't think we would cut Davis. As you said and as I elaborated on above, it's hard to imagine a scenario where we cut Davis. RBs are much more easily found than DL, although we've had luck at finding guys at both positions. 

2 hours ago, allblackraven said:

There's always an option to sign a vet.

Yeah, a veteran is certainly possible. I think the only thing saving Arthur Brown is just luck and he's been here and his ST. He could just as easily be gone as he could stay. I won't lose sleep either way. 

[allblackraven]

Does anybody else think Powers isn't completely safe to make it?

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Does anybody else think Powers isn't completely safe to make it?

Even though he hasn't played well, I do think the team likes the idea of having him as a veteran option.  I think his starting job is in serious danger, but he should be depth for us at the least.  With that being said, I wouldn't say he's completely safe either.

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Even though he hasn't played well, I do think the team likes the idea of having him as a veteran option.  I think his starting job is in serious danger, but he should be depth for us at the least.  With that being said, I wouldn't say he's completely safe either.

I mean, Will Davis and Young were OK at slot/nickel, even Levine played there vs Colts. What good is experience if it doesn't translate to the field? No expensive contract to affect us much either.

[ellicottraven]

30 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Does anybody else think Powers isn't completely safe to make it?

Not a guarantee but his chances improved markedly after Kyle Arrington was sent to IR for a concussion!

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

So, just a real tough sell, but one I'm semi curious to hear other's thoughts on-

Carl Davis hasn't played well whatsoever and Michael Pierce has. Pierce is also a far better pure nose tackle and could fill in next year if B. Will walks.

So, chances Davis is cut in favor of Pierce?

I went bold with this roster prediction and swapped Price in for Canady and Pierce in for Davis. Don't really think the latter will happen, but why not make a bold move?

I think Carl Davis stays but I do believe Michael Pierce makes the team. I think he's been one of the bright spots on the D-line. He's relentless and is a football player and is always around the ball somehow. And he is stout against the run. Yes he would be a nice addition to spell B Williams at nose tackle while Jernigan and Davis are ends. I really feel very strongly about this kid. In fact, I think he's the only UDFA that has a good chance to be on the final 53.

[omar586]

Ochi is has  potential , just needs little coaching, he's like a young version of Dumervil. arthur is out- his time is up in b-more.

 

pierce has earned it.